bitcoinrocks (OP)
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July 02, 2015, 06:19:26 PM |
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I'd like to be able to send/receive BTC without the recipient/sender knowing my full BTC balance. From what I can gather, depositing/withdrawing to/from an exchange is the best way to do this. Which exchange would be best?
I think the exchange should have the following characteristics:
- a changeable BTC deposit address
- BTC withdrawals from a shared wallet that isn't linked to your deposit address
- no KYC for non-fiat activity
- fast BTC crediting (1 or 2 confirmations)
- a good reputation
- low or no withdrawal fees
- 2FA would be nice
Any suggestions?
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newIndia
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July 02, 2015, 06:23:07 PM |
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Just deposit and withdraw bitcoin at BTC-e and you are done.
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bitcoinrocks (OP)
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July 02, 2015, 06:24:00 PM |
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The top two candidates I came up with were Bitfinex and BTC-e. Is BTC-e a better choice?
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Ayle56
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July 02, 2015, 06:27:10 PM |
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YoBit's got very low withdrawal fees and I think it gives BTC withdrawals from a shared wallet. I have only done a few withdrawals but none of them was sent from my deposit address, and some were sent from multiple addresses. There is no KYC and I think they offer 2FA, although I'm not 100% certain.
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monsanto
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July 02, 2015, 06:33:44 PM |
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Just deposit and withdraw bitcoin at BTC-e and you are done.
Doesn't get more anonymous than BTC-e. Wash trade your btc through litecoin for an extra level of obfuscation  |
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iamamatt
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July 02, 2015, 06:44:47 PM |
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isnt using any exchange just as effective as btc-e? your sending it to one address and it will come out of another exchange controlled address. of course as long as you can stored the bitcoin on their server
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July 02, 2015, 06:51:08 PM |
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I'd like to be able to send/receive BTC without the recipient/sender knowing my full BTC balance. From what I can gather, depositing/withdrawing to/from an exchange is the best way to do this. Which exchange would be best?
I think the exchange should have the following characteristics:
- a changeable BTC deposit address
- BTC withdrawals from a shared wallet that isn't linked to your deposit address
- no KYC for non-fiat activity
- fast BTC crediting (1 or 2 confirmations)
- a good reputation
- low or no withdrawal fees
- 2FA would be nice
Any suggestions?
You also need the ability to create an account anonymously. Otherwise, the exchange could divulge your information (for a price of course), and completely defeat the mixing. |
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July 02, 2015, 06:51:49 PM |
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I'd like to be able to send/receive BTC without the recipient/sender knowing my full BTC balance. From what I can gather, depositing/withdrawing to/from an exchange is the best way to do this. Which exchange would be best?
I think the exchange should have the following characteristics:
- a changeable BTC deposit address
- BTC withdrawals from a shared wallet that isn't linked to your deposit address
- no KYC for non-fiat activity
- fast BTC crediting (1 or 2 confirmations)
- a good reputation
- low or no withdrawal fees
- 2FA would be nice
Any suggestions?
You also need the ability to create an account anonymously. Otherwise, the exchange could divulge your information (for a price of course), and completely defeat the mixing. Using Tor should suffice. |
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twister
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July 02, 2015, 07:05:17 PM |
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Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.
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hodlmybtc
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July 02, 2015, 07:18:44 PM |
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Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.
There is no darkcoin anymore, also all this will cost you a decent % of your coins in fees. Deposit and withdraw on BTC-e (or another exchange where you can create accounts/deposit/withdraw anonmyously) with an account made over Tor should do the trick. |
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shad0x
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July 02, 2015, 07:20:46 PM |
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Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.
I agree that the darkcoin switch is a good way to go. Have you tried https://poloniex.com/ ? You could lend out some coin for margin traders and then pull it back in with profit and send out. |
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July 02, 2015, 07:22:30 PM |
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Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.
There is no darkcoin anymore, also all this will cost you a decent % of your coins in fees. Deposit and withdraw on BTC-e (or another exchange where you can create accounts/deposit/withdraw anonmyously) with an account made over Tor should do the trick. not true, all you see on shapeshift is what you get, they even say so in their website, the only fee is the miners fee, which is ok , there can't be zero fees also you don't need darkcoin, monero is vastly better |
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twister
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July 02, 2015, 07:26:52 PM |
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Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.
There is no darkcoin anymore, also all this will cost you a decent % of your coins in fees. Deposit and withdraw on BTC-e (or another exchange where you can create accounts/deposit/withdraw anonmyously) with an account made over Tor should do the trick. darkcoin was just for example, there are I think 26 currencies listed there, you can even use litecoin or dogecoin and the conversion + Tx Fee would be the only % of your coins you would loose but if you're aiming for true anonymity than you'd have to pay a fee. |
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hodlmybtc
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July 02, 2015, 07:27:23 PM |
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Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.
There is no darkcoin anymore, also all this will cost you a decent % of your coins in fees. Deposit and withdraw on BTC-e (or another exchange where you can create accounts/deposit/withdraw anonmyously) with an account made over Tor should do the trick. not true, all you see on shapeshift is what you get, they even say so in their website, the only fee is the miners fee, which is ok , there can't be zero fees also you don't need darkcoin, monero is vastly better I'm sure when you have 1 BTC and mix it BTC>alt>BTC you will end up with ~0.98-0.97 BTC Definately agree with you about Monero tho, do you also have XMR Amph? It's about to break out at the moment also, just posted this in the speculation thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg11774942#msg11774942 |
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dKingston
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July 02, 2015, 07:48:02 PM |
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https://CoinChimp.com has no kyc, no docs, no Id required, nothing. Or you could just use a mixer like https://BitLaunder.com, BitMixer.io, BitcoinFog, etc (or a combination of all three .. those are the only trustworthy mixers, but there are some reports of theft from each of them unfortunately)
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Snorek
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July 02, 2015, 07:52:21 PM |
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It depends if you want to use exchange as a mixer on a frequent basis or just once or twice. If you are interested only in mixing your coins why not use normal mixer in the first place.
Using exchanges and giving them your full credentials could bite you in the ass in the end, when in couple of years IRS will got your data the same way as they own Mt.Gox user base list.
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cryptworld
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July 02, 2015, 07:58:00 PM |
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You can try poloniex,they move many bitcoins
Have you seen blockchain.info exchage?
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July 03, 2015, 04:32:45 AM |
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why don't you use a mixing service like bitmixer? Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.
I agree that the darkcoin switch is a good way to go. Have you tried https://poloniex.com/ ? You could lend out some coin for margin traders and then pull it back in with profit and send out. poloniex requires your personal information to let you withdraw from your account, and that defeats the purpose of OP. you can use bittrex instead, i think the number of confirmation isn't high and it requires only the standard fee of 10,000 satoshi. with no need to any personal information. it has 2fa too. |
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July 03, 2015, 04:34:32 AM |
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why don't you use a mixing service like bitmixer? Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.
I agree that the darkcoin switch is a good way to go. Have you tried https://poloniex.com/ ? You could lend out some coin for margin traders and then pull it back in with profit and send out. poloniex requires your personal information to let you withdraw from your account, and that defeats the purpose of OP. you can use bittrex instead, i think the number of confirmation isn't high and it requires only the standard fee of 10,000 satoshi. with no need to any personal information. it has 2fa too. Yeah, bittrex is you're best option if you do not want to give any personal information out. It is your choice but some sites offer lower fees in exchange for little person information. |
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July 03, 2015, 06:07:13 AM |
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Why do you not create seperate accounts on each of these and just mix the coins before you transfer it to the other wallets. {It's never a good idea to keep all your coins together}
I have several wallets and accounts on different exchanges, and I just mix my coins before I deposit it into these other wallets.
If they want to trace it back, they would need to sapoena the mixer service for the information, and I have not heard of any successfull attempts at doing that.
Good luck...
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