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January 25, 2018, 07:38:04 PM
Last edit: February 07, 2018, 01:40:37 AM by killyou72
Merited by Chris! (10), aTriz (8), Tyrantt (6), mprep (5), achow101 (5), Mr. Big (5), TheNewAnon135246 (5), grue (5), GideonGono (5), CjMapope (5), ibminer (5), free-bit.co.in (5), Woshib (5), gandame (5), MadZ (5), twicezeroiszero (5), Blazed (4), The Sceptical Chymist (3), mich (3), monbux (3), spngebob (3), philipma1957 (2), DannyHamilton (2), mk4 (2), Doell (2), bL4nkcode (2), sapta (2), Cacingkemi (2), HmmMAA (2), jtipt (2), Soranith (2), BCTBF (2), dhas (2), whotookmycrypto (2), dothebeats (1), babo (1), examplens (1), Welsh (1), Avirunes (1), DeathAngel (1), ABCbits (1), actmyname (1), johhnyUA (1), InvoKing (1), marlboroza (1), redsn0w (1), TMAN (1), cissrawk (1), soothaa (1), jambola2 (1), gidlark1 (1), KuromaYoichi (1), 8Habits (1), Financisto (1), bluefirecorp_ (1), mmhaimhai (1), davey76 (1), axiline (1), Tactic (1), justine11 (1), Sasuke102001 (1), romani245 (1), Nakaba (1), poriks (1)
 #1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911706

^The user already has negative for account farming so why wouldn't they be abusing it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2172812.msg21784123#msg21784123


^User has +50 and is looking to buy a hero member account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1001712
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1001712

^Only posts in the not english boards, none of their opening topics have any +merit.
^^ As you can see, they give merit and they get it  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2096416.msg21951659#msg21951659
^Does that message really deserve 41 merit?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052553

^all these low member accounts are all foreign with high merits

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823148.msg28920370#msg28920370

^28 merit for that post, really? and the account that gave it to them already has +50 merit.. that isnt odd or anything

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2559778.msg28914349#msg28914349

^Looks like user traded merit with the accounts that left them merit

^^Proof here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1007695


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2663875.msg28808144#msg28808144
Suspect

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2777940.msg28766456#msg28766456

^Only took a few minutes for this guy to send merit to the guy that sent him merit


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=915311

^Sends merit to users and they repay the favor

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1052765

^Shit posts that are getting tons of merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=850811

^Trading merit with HypNoSE

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=943918

^Trading merit with aliyagiz207

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=999147

^Trading merit with aliyagiz207

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=923435

^Trading merit with aliyagiz207

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1127307

^Got a LOT of merit from HappyS for shit posts

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1052765

^Trading merit with Yury1, and Ekaterinat


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=28147

^Giving the max amount of merit to multiple users for posts that are a few sentences

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1052765

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=888613

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=934304

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=290351

^Giving away 50 merit to users like its candy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1082600

^Trading with alt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1018920
^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=925537

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1035345

^REALLY ABUSING THE MERIT

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1419378

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=343375
^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1277896

^Trading merit Linked with one the above this one... has 4 accounts total at least

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=21178

^Looks like that guy is using merit instead of using the trust feedback

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2097334.msg28228601#msg28228601

^That post doesnt deserve 50 merit,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2824893.0

^Selling merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1035345

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=756570

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1419378

^Being given merit for no reason

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1018920

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=112286

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=181084

^Trading merit


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=81995

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=569455

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006631.msg28973555#msg28973555

^Google translates roughly to its not easy to get merit, and he got a shit ton of merit, (Dont think he should be tagged,)


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=305366

^This user gave 4 people 50 merit if you look in the thread its basically just russians giving merit to themselves

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234915
^Tried to sell merit Proof below

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.msg28994465#msg28994465

What do you think about this:

This guy Durr_1412 is complaining and calling everyone rich people https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2822726.0

Sent merit to user long8899 this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828412.msg28998422#msg28998422 archived https://archive.fo/wbOZc

Posted Today at 09:29:29 PM, merit sent Today at 09:30:12 PM: 4 to long8899 for Re: Anti-spam Merit Giveaway

There is no possible way for Durr_1412 to read whole topic, read long8899's post and send him merit in only 43 seconds unless...

If you look at post history of both accounts you will see that both users have identical writing style, both of them sent merit to each other and both are in the same signature campaign.

But don't listen to my weird logic and jumping to conclusions.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513294

^Gave all his merit to 2 crappy accounts with crappy posts

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=252477
^probably boosting his alt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=388221
^LEGENDARY SELLING MERIT, TAG HIM AND ALL THE PEOPLE HE SENT MERIT TOO FOR SHITTY POSTS?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=174460

^You give me merit I give you merit type of guy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=863567


^You give me merit I give you merit type of guy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1201858

^looks like he bought merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1072601

^Bought merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=305366

^selling merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=743671

^gave 25 merit to a one word response

I don't know if this comes under abusing of merit, I find it a little bit fishy.
USER 1:
Merit given for post: - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2612592.msg29013144#msg29013144
Merit summary :- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=301898

USER 2:
Merit given for post: - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1731984.msg29163282#msg29163282
Merit summary :- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=909175

USER 3:  
Merit given for post: - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2626133.msg29218951#msg29218951
Merit summary :- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1248160

USER 4:
Merit given for post: - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2717001.msg29022174#msg29022174
Merit summary :- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=952659

I don't know if people deserve such amounts of merits for clear one liners, I'd want to hear what other people have to say on this.

FROM HERE DOWN, THESE ARE FROM THIS THREAD THAT OTHER USERS FOUND/POSTED FEBRUARY 6 2018


USER PROFILE : RichDaniel
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=886352
PROOF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2857163.msg29379539#msg29379539
MISCELLANEOUS: Has received 283 merit in one hour, standing actually on the 7th place for Top-merited users



Apparent merit swap:



ETH Address:0xb42A0ea478d33675240CA6Fb1575d3987638EAf0 posted by Dennys52 http://archive.is/6sNUL in LUXCESS GROUP bounty.

ETH Address:0x2b74bE5Ea5026333F11Fe80436222BC8A16a3e67 miha74 http://archive.is/3L1KF in DID bounty.

Linked by transaction https://etherscan.io/tx/0xed69bbcac4cce8c3330c7b282093a5c996049df1a9f328c0556e5c562fe83e0a

There looks to be others but the ETH addresses I found were not yet used klim75, klim80
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1159253
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=999197
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1687943
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1687943


Trading merit or alt account

Walker0118 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021871  sent 5 merit to shit posts  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2879445.msg29582053#msg29582053
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translation: I want to buy a video card MSI GEFORCE GTX 1080 TI .........


Exchanging Merits. Possible alt accounts. Their way of typing, and most of their posts in the Altcoin section, along with the fact of Meriting each others shit posts definitely indicate that either the accounts are being operated by the same person, or they have discussed to exchange Merits. In both ways, I believe they are abusing the system.

Accounts:
1. Miloudi0912 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=542524
    Merit summary: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=542524

2. mekky1990 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1301162
    Merit summary: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1301162

Just saw this post on the top merited replys:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2773544.msg29292037#msg29292037

Twinscoin2017 got four high merit transactions from different accounts which have only sent merit to this guy for low quality posts

    January 31, 2018, 02:01:09 PM: 30 from chickenado for Re: What would happen to BTC if internet was turned off?
    January 31, 2018, 01:40:23 PM: 50 from KenChanYu for Re: what is the bitcoin for you? and how did he change your life?
    January 31, 2018, 01:30:50 PM: 50 from Gaff for Re: why bitcoin is profitable ?
    January 31, 2018, 01:22:21 PM: 22 from djgtr for Re: what is the bitcoin for you? and how did he change your life?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1779
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=221660
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62998
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22398

I've found a suspect in short time on Ann Thread,

This user Alltimer
Got 31 merit for a shitpost from enigmatical, I think this is a little suspicious. Roll Eyes

Proof

http://archive.is/MQaTV#selection-4821.0-4821.181



Small scale but looking a bit suspect.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=795655

Merit summary for Ridwan.P
Merit: 100

Sent in the last 120 days
Today at 08:06:41 AM: 1 to Ta.Form for Re: How bitcoin change our life?
Today at 08:06:26 AM: 1 to Ta.Form for Re: How bitcoin change our life?
Today at 08:06:05 AM: 1 to Ta.Form for Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin?
Today at 08:05:48 AM: 1 to Ta.Form for Re: Why do we really need Bitcoin?

All 4 merit point awarded to the same account for shitposts in spam megathreads.

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January 25, 2018, 07:40:28 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911706

^The user already has negative for account farming so why wouldn't they be abusing it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2172812.msg21784123#msg21784123


^User has +50 and is looking to buy a hero member account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1001712

^Only posts in the not english boards, none of their opening topics have any +merit, I think they gave themselves merit then deleted the post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2096416.msg21951659#msg21951659
^Does that message really deserve 41 merit?
Theymos just announced the new function about Merit points and he got a lot of sMerits so why not ? What is the point ?
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January 25, 2018, 07:46:54 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911706

^The user already has negative for account farming so why wouldn't they be abusing it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2172812.msg21784123#msg21784123


^User has +50 and is looking to buy a hero member account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1001712

^Only posts in the not english boards, none of their opening topics have any +merit, I think they gave themselves merit then deleted the post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2096416.msg21951659#msg21951659
^Does that message really deserve 41 merit?
Theymos just announced the new function about Merit points and he got a lot of sMerits so why not ? What is the point ?

The point is that it looks a bit fishy that someone has gained merits for fairly normal posts. Merits for posts that are very useful, helpful or good quality. Not post that other users probably have also made to a similar quality before (especially anything above 10 to give for a single post).

It does seem very quickly that people have started to abuse the system already.
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January 25, 2018, 07:53:42 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2172812.msg21784123#msg21784123

^User has +50 and is looking to buy a hero member account
Tagged. You should watch this user, i.e. where exactly he is going to send his sMerit to.

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January 25, 2018, 07:56:29 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2172812.msg21784123#msg21784123

^User has +50 and is looking to buy a hero member account
Tagged. You should watch this user, i.e. where exactly he is going to send his sMerit to.

Is there something in place to show where a user sends merit too? I do not think so yet,

Also, can you explain how you break down someone's long post into little snips that are little quote blocks?

I havn't been able to figure out a way to do it quickly
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2172812.msg21784123#msg21784123

^User has +50 and is looking to buy a hero member account
Tagged. You should watch this user, i.e. where exactly he is going to send his sMerit to.

Is there something in place to show where a user sends merit too? I do not think so yet,


Yeah. Just found it myself; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=408367

replace the u= with the actual user id that you want to track.


Edit: It looks like its in the user's profile under post count now. Woo admins!

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2172812.msg21784123#msg21784123

^User has +50 and is looking to buy a hero member account
Tagged. You should watch this user, i.e. where exactly he is going to send his sMerit to.

Is there something in place to show where a user sends merit too? I do not think so yet,


Yeah. Just found it myself; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=408367

replace the u= with the actual user id that you want to track.

You can also click their username on a post [or go to their profile page] and the merit title has a hyperlink that takes you there.

Also, with breaking up the quote, you copy the bit of code at the top and end each section of the quote with [ / quote ]. I think that's the only way to do it.
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Tagged a couple users. Either for merit farming or for shitposting. They're usually interconnected anyway Wink

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January 25, 2018, 08:11:04 PM
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Tagged a couple users. Either for merit farming or for shitposting. They're usually interconnected anyway Wink

I should find a better way to format the OP so it is more clear Ill work on that shortly, however he is another one


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January 25, 2018, 08:25:16 PM
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Is there something in place to show where a user sends merit too? I do not think so yet,
Yeah. Just found it myself; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=408367

replace the u= with the actual user id that you want to track.

Interestingly, since bluefircorp has posted the Merits summary for Killyou72 you'll notice that Killyou72 has received Merits from Killyou73.

Aren't Killyou72 and Killyou73 alts for the same person? If so, Killyou has abused the Merit system.
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Is there something in place to show where a user sends merit too? I do not think so yet,
Yeah. Just found it myself; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=408367

replace the u= with the actual user id that you want to track.

Interestingly, since bluefircorp has posted the Merits summary for Killyou72 you'll notice that Killyou72 has received Merits from Killyou73.

Aren't Killyou72 and Killyou73 alts for the same person? If so, Killyou has abused the Merit system.

I wanted to see how it worked, didn't understand the way it was written.

It would have been abusing if I left 70 merit from killyou72 onto killyou73
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Interestingly, since bluefircorp has posted the Merits summary for Killyou72 you'll notice that Killyou72 has received Merits from Killyou73.

Aren't Killyou72 and Killyou73 alts for the same person? If so, Killyou has abused the Merit system.

I wanted to see how it worked, didn't understand the way it was written.

It would have been abusing if I left 70 merit from killyou72 onto killyou73

That's a plausible explanation, but why did you leave yourself 6 merit instead of just 1 for the test?

I don't think this needs to go further. I think it's valuable to be acknowledging where people are clearly abusing the system. What we should also be focused on is keeping this thread from becoming a witch hunt.

We shouldn't be hunting for people that might be abusing, we should be publicly outing people that clearly are abusing, repeatedly.
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It would have been abusing if I left 70 merit from killyou72 onto killyou73

Especially given that you can only give 50 merit to an individual  Tongue

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Yikes... is it just me or does the merit system seem like it might worsen the account-farming problem even further.
I don't see myself randomly meriting posts, even if they are helpful. So account farmers would have a much easier time gaining merit on their accounts than regular users...

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January 25, 2018, 08:42:40 PM
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It would have been abusing if I left 70 merit from killyou72 onto killyou73

Especially given that you can only give 50 merit to an individual  Tongue

Is that true? I thought you could only give 50 PER POST.

Interestingly, since bluefircorp has posted the Merits summary for Killyou72 you'll notice that Killyou72 has received Merits from Killyou73.

Aren't Killyou72 and Killyou73 alts for the same person? If so, Killyou has abused the Merit system.

I wanted to see how it worked, didn't understand the way it was written.

It would have been abusing if I left 70 merit from killyou72 onto killyou73

That's a plausible explanation, but why did you leave yourself 6 merit instead of just 1 for the test?

I don't think this needs to go further. I think it's valuable to be acknowledging where people are clearly abusing the system. What we should also be focused on is keeping this thread from becoming a witch hunt.

We shouldn't be hunting for people that might be abusing, we should be publicly outing people that clearly are abusing, repeatedly.

Because of the whole half merit thing, initially I thought that when you gave merit you lost it, and that I could just delete my post and the merit would go away, or I could remove it like trust. Maybe that feature will be added.

Its really easy to find the merit farmers just look at the recent merit given 
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It would have been abusing if I left 70 merit from killyou72 onto killyou73

Especially given that you can only give 50 merit to an individual  Tongue

Is that true? I thought you could only give 50 PER POST.

Killyou, you can only give one person 50 merits per month.


Yikes... is it just me or does the merit system seem like it might worsen the account-farming problem even further.

I don't think it will. The existing accounts wishing to create/farm alt accounts will have to burn a lot of their sMerits just to get their new account to a Member level. The cost is clearly not worth the benefit.

This merit system will help Newbies and the rest of us learn what the community feels is a merit-worthy contribution. This is going to be a great thing!
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January 25, 2018, 09:15:55 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=290351

Here's another one to add to your list. Sent maximum merit to two users for no discernible reason.
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January 25, 2018, 09:20:24 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=290351

Here's another one to add to your list. Sent maximum merit to two users for no discernible reason.

I must have updated the list right as you posted it because I already had it but thank you for helping!
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January 25, 2018, 09:26:33 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=290351

Here's another one to add to your list. Sent maximum merit to two users for no discernible reason.

I must have updated the list right as you posted it because I already had it but thank you for helping!

Must've been the case, I didn't see his profile before I replied. Anyway, I assume you're looking at this as well if you're so fast. Thanks for keeping this list updated, although I'm not sure what can be done besides name and shaming abusers. Do you think something like this warrants negative trust?
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January 25, 2018, 09:27:49 PM
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I suspect this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1082600 mutually exchanges the sMerit points with his alts.

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