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February 21, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
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Hello everyone,

I wanted to report that on 2011 February 13 (one week ago) mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45000 USD in it , he changed my account password and don't let me to get in.  Sad


mtgox.com does not explain to me a reason why he has blocked my account.


mtgox.com asking from where I get money to my bitcoin account which is not related with my mtgox.com account.

mtgox.com in some way ( I don't know how ) find out my all bitcoins addreses (and who knows what else). Huh  And now I realy don't know if my money is really safe it my bitcoin. Shocked

I explained to mtgox.com from where I got money to my bitcoin address. ( one moth ago in IRC I meet man who wanted trade his bitcoin to liberty reserve, so he send my bitcoin I send him liberty reserve, it's simple. ).

But to mtgox.com that was not enough, he started to asking what was my nick name, and chanell name where I meet that man. Because it was more than month ago and I was not loging , I tell him that I don't remember.

After all this he started asking me for my phone number or skype, I asked him to tell me his skype nick name that I could speak with him live, but He changed his mind, and don't telling me his skype. Embarrassed

I ask him to tell me the reason why he blocked my account and why he asking from where I received money to my bitcoin, but he don't answer.

After all, do I have to explain to someone from where I got money to my bitcoin?  Huh
mtgox.com is administrator of bitcoin currency? Huh

What you suggest for me to do? Cry

All my money to my mtgox.com account came from my liberty reserve e-currency account.



I will update this topic when I will have news or problem will be resolved.



Issue status: NOT RESOLVED

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February 21, 2011, 10:19:07 PM
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He's probably tracking stolen money through the block chain, and you touched it at some point. If this is the case, then he is primarily interested in locating the person you received the money from.

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February 21, 2011, 10:24:34 PM
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So why he don't tell me real reason? If I was cheated and  someone sends me stolen money I will ready to return to from what it was stolen, because I don't operate with black money.

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February 21, 2011, 10:28:38 PM
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Did you deposit bitcoins or Liberty Reserve into Mt.gox? If bitcoins, from which bitcoin address?

Sorry, I can't help you with your lost password.

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February 21, 2011, 10:29:04 PM
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I'm interested to see what MtGox has to say about this.  I sent him a message regarding this thread. I have had libelous things written about me on this forum by other new users with low post counts and don't take a user with one post very seriously.

Do you have screenshots? E-mails? Message headers? etc.
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February 21, 2011, 10:32:15 PM
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to riX : All money to mtgox.com was deposited using liberty reserve.

to BiddingPond.com: I have emails. screenshots of mtgox.com account I don't have because I can't login. but it's not fake.

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February 21, 2011, 10:42:53 PM
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one moth ago in IRC I meet man who wanted trade his bitcoin to liberty reserve, so he send my bitcoin I send him liberty reserve, it's simple.

to riX : All money to mtgox.com was deposited using liberty reserve.

But did you get the money originally by trading bitcoins into LR from some man on IRC?
Or were you going to trade your LR into bitcoin with this man using Mt.Gox as an exchanger?

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February 21, 2011, 10:46:39 PM
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one moth ago in IRC I meet man who wanted trade his bitcoin to liberty reserve, so he send my bitcoin I send him liberty reserve, it's simple.

to riX : All money to mtgox.com was deposited using liberty reserve.

But did you get the money originally by trading bitcoins into LR from some man on IRC?
Or were you going to trade your LR into bitcoin with this man using Mt.Gox as an exchanger?


Sorry, I did not understand your questions.
my trade with that man is not related with my mtgox.com account. Only mtgox.com asking about that trade, I don't know why.

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February 21, 2011, 11:16:43 PM
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Ok, so let's get this straight.
1. Baron has some unknown amount of libertyreserve. Let's just call it "100$". Baron trades those 100$ libertyreserve for 100$ bitcoin with some random guy he just met in IRC.
2. Baron likes bitcoin, he wants more and decides to deposit 45 000$ worth of libertyreserve to mtgox.com.
4. On February 13th mtgox blocks Barons account and sends an e-mail asking for information regarding the bitcoin trade (1.).
5. Information is provided, nothing from mtgox.

Questions:
1. How is it possible that mtgox knows about your 100$ trade? (you don't know, but try to think)
2. Why is he interested in that trade and not where you managed to get 45 000$ worth of libertyreseve?

It would in my opinion make much more sense if this was the case:
1. Baron trades 45000$ something for 45000$ libertyreserve with some random guy on IRC.
2. Baron deposits 45000$ to mtgox.
3. It turns out the random guy on IRC had stolen those 45000$ somehow and mtgox is getting trouble with libertyreserve.

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February 21, 2011, 11:27:15 PM
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LR doesn't enforce Chargebacks, that is their strength; I would be more concerned of the coins. Waiting for a statement from MtGox and proof.

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February 21, 2011, 11:40:46 PM
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my account with 45000 USD in it
That just seems unlikely

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February 21, 2011, 11:43:23 PM
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mtgox.com asking from where I get money to my bitcoin account which is not related with my mtgox.com account.

mtgox.com in some way ( I don't know how ) find out my all bitcoins addreses (and who knows what else). Huh  And now I realy don't know if my money is really safe it my bitcoin. Shocked


nerd, is that you? you owe me 4000 btc, scammer.

45000USD... the reported total of deposits on your scam site bitcointrade.biz was about 49000 btc. interesting yes?

for those who don't know, see discussion on russian section:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D1070.0&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com

looking at last pages of that discussion it looks like some have found his real name. guess someone let mtgox know of this scammer and mtgox lock his account. now poor scammer comes crying to bitcoiners.
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February 22, 2011, 12:32:29 AM
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mtgox.com asking from where I get money to my bitcoin account which is not related with my mtgox.com account.

mtgox.com in some way ( I don't know how ) find out my all bitcoins addreses (and who knows what else). Huh  And now I realy don't know if my money is really safe it my bitcoin. Shocked


nerd, is that you? you owe me 4000 btc, scammer.

45000USD... the reported total of deposits on your scam site bitcointrade.biz was about 49000 btc. interesting yes?

for those who don't know, see discussion on russian section:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D1070.0&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com

looking at last pages of that discussion it looks like some have found his real name. guess someone let mtgox know of this scammer and mtgox lock his account. now poor scammer comes crying to bitcoiners.

I am not nerd , and I don't have any relationship with that, and I am not related with bitcointrade.biz. As I mentioned I deposited funds into mtgox.com using liberty reserve not bitcoin, currenly in my bitcoin I have only 12000 BTC.

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February 22, 2011, 12:36:20 AM
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Ok, so let's get this straight.
1. Baron has some unknown amount of libertyreserve. Let's just call it "100$". Baron trades those 100$ libertyreserve for 100$ bitcoin with some random guy he just met in IRC.
2. Baron likes bitcoin, he wants more and decides to deposit 45 000$ worth of libertyreserve to mtgox.com.
4. On February 13th mtgox blocks Barons account and sends an e-mail asking for information regarding the bitcoin trade (1.).
5. Information is provided, nothing from mtgox.

Questions:
1. How is it possible that mtgox knows about your 100$ trade? (you don't know, but try to think)
2. Why is he interested in that trade and not where you managed to get 45 000$ worth of libertyreseve?

It would in my opinion make much more sense if this was the case:
1. Baron trades 45000$ something for 45000$ libertyreserve with some random guy on IRC.
2. Baron deposits 45000$ to mtgox.
3. It turns out the random guy on IRC had stolen those 45000$ somehow and mtgox is getting trouble with libertyreserve.


your opinion is wrong. I get liberty reserve by buying using bankwire, and much more larger sums, because I trade on other trading systems like FXOpen.com and Marketiva.com too.

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February 22, 2011, 01:57:24 AM
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your opinion is wrong. I get liberty reserve by buying using bankwire, and much more larger sums, because I trade on other trading systems like FXOpen.com and Marketiva.com too.

Oh! We got an investor in our hands! Please be advice it isn't wise to come up with this big buying power. You may cause a bubble and it ain't nice for all. xD

Please, everyone should wait for an official statement from MtGox.

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February 22, 2011, 01:59:45 AM
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Ok, so let's get this straight.
1. Baron has some unknown amount of libertyreserve. Let's just call it "100$". Baron trades those 100$ libertyreserve for 100$ bitcoin with some random guy he just met in IRC.
2. Baron likes bitcoin, he wants more and decides to deposit 45 000$ worth of libertyreserve to mtgox.com.
4. On February 13th mtgox blocks Barons account and sends an e-mail asking for information regarding the bitcoin trade (1.).
5. Information is provided, nothing from mtgox.
This seems to be what Baron has been describing here.

Maybe Baron could clarify the full story again!?
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February 22, 2011, 02:00:37 AM
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your opinion is wrong. I get liberty reserve by buying using bankwire, and much more larger sums, because I trade on other trading systems like FXOpen.com and Marketiva.com too.

Oh! We got an investor in our hands! Please be advice it isn't wise to come up with this big buying power. You may cause a bubble and it ain't nice for all. xD

Please, everyone should wait for an official statement from MtGox.


What's wrong with you?

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February 22, 2011, 02:12:46 AM
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No nothing, just saying that if a lot of money comes in at once a mess could be created. Nothing personal.
There is only 20K in volume before 2USD <-> 1 BTC and that would mean over a fold increase. I wouldn't really mind it if you want to go ahead. xD

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February 22, 2011, 02:13:29 AM
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Ok, so let's get this straight.
1. Baron has some unknown amount of libertyreserve. Let's just call it "100$". Baron trades those 100$ libertyreserve for 100$ bitcoin with some random guy he just met in IRC.
2. Baron likes bitcoin, he wants more and decides to deposit 45 000$ worth of libertyreserve to mtgox.com.
4. On February 13th mtgox blocks Barons account and sends an e-mail asking for information regarding the bitcoin trade (1.).
5. Information is provided, nothing from mtgox.
This seems to be what Baron has been describing here.

Maybe Baron could clarify the full story again!?

"2. Baron likes bitcoin, he wants more and decides to deposit 45 000$ worth of libertyreserve to mtgox.com."

Point is not that I want more bitcoin or I like or dislike bitcoin. My purpose is not to get more bitcoin, but trade(buy/sell) bitcoin and earn profit from margin. Only turnover of mtgox.com, as I understand,
for that is too small yet.

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February 22, 2011, 02:28:30 AM
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New forum account = reason to be suspicious.

Waiting for mtgox's side.

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