(Worldwide) scammed me for 0.51873796 BTC

[wetsuit]

What happened::
I have bought about $1,500 worth of AWS codes from (Worldwide) in the past without any issues. This time, he asked me for 0.51873796 BTC to deliver an AWS code. After I paid, he said that he would not be able to deliver the code and asked me for an address to send the refund. I sent him an address (1NMQTkSAfWRWBJUff6nV1CP44HWP9iqQuR) but the refund never came. It has been over 48 hours, he usually replies within an hour or two.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=877816

Amount Scammed:
0.51873796 BTC

Payment Method:
BTC

Proof of Payment:
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/6614589890d21296d43115969efbf2f623077c0b38686507ccbf03ea2b432e88

Additional Notes:
I will delete this thread if he either gives me a refund or a code as promised. I believe I also have his real name and email address which I will also post if he does not settle in 48 hours from now. I will also be sending him a link to this thread.

I would appreciate it if some default trust users could tag him.

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[Patatas]

Account is already tagged red (according to my trust settings )
You should have considered the following feedbacks,you were anyway dealing with a suspicious guy.

Vod 135: -0 / +14   2016-08-07   0.00000000   Reference   Illegally selling stolen/hacked Microsoft accounts. Keys will stop working when hack is discovered and you will not get a refund.

xetsr 160: -0 / +16   2016-07-16   0.00000000      Be very careful when dealing with this member. Avoid autobuy links and sending first.

...followed by number of untrusted negative feedbacks.

[wetsuit]

Account is already tagged red (according to my trust settings )
You should have considered the following feedbacks,you were anyway dealing with a suspicious guy.

Vod 135: -0 / +14   2016-08-07   0.00000000   Reference   Illegally selling stolen/hacked Microsoft accounts. Keys will stop working when hack is discovered and you will not get a refund.

xetsr 160: -0 / +16   2016-07-16   0.00000000      Be very careful when dealing with this member. Avoid autobuy links and sending first.

...followed by number of untrusted negative feedbacks.

I have been trading with him for a while before he received those feedbacks, but in hindsight I should have stopped trading with him after he received those feedbacks.

[sandy-is-fine]

Scammers even come back after a 4 year absence.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1555228.0  Looks like it could be a bought/hacked account.

[TalkStar]

Where is your evidences? I will be happy to see your conversation screenshots here.

Scammers even come back after a 4 year absence.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1555228.0  Looks like it could be a bought/hacked account.

Yeah its really surprising to see that they don't care to check this kinda scammers trust page and inactivity period before continuing their deal.

Whats wrong with them actually!

I am clearly seeing multiple negative trust on his profile but after that OP didn’t feel it necessary to use escrow service for his fund safety. It was obvious and maybe this time scammer will take another longer break from forum.

[sandy-is-fine]

Where is your evidences? I will be happy to see your conversation screenshots here.

Scammers even come back after a 4 year absence.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1555228.0  Looks like it could be a bought/hacked account. 

Didn't scam me just posting as a warning.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Where is your evidences? I will be happy to see your conversation screenshots here.

The person you are asking for screenshots made the accusation 4 years ago. @sandy-is-fine was just alerting member that the account just woke up after longtime.
I don't know if it's necessary, but isn't a type 1 flag suitable to be opened against the accused profile in this case?

[aioc]

Account coming back from a long sleep could be hacked or bought and selling stuffs worth thousand of dollars made you suspicious not to mention the tag, that's a huge amount and the account is only full member he has nothing to lose with that account, I have doubt but I hope I'm wrong and he will refund you or send you the code.

[sandy-is-fine]

Where is your evidences? I will be happy to see your conversation screenshots here.

The person you are asking for screenshots made the accusation 4 years ago. @sandy-is-fine was just alerting member that the account just woke up after longtime.
I don't know if it's necessary, but isn't a type 1 flag suitable to be opened against the accused profile in this case?

Yes and yes.  Tagged and flagged, support flag here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2508

[janggernaut]

Account coming back from a long sleep could be hacked or bought and selling stuffs worth thousand of dollars made you suspicious not to mention the tag, that's a huge amount and the account is only full member he has nothing to lose with that account,

That worldwide account selling AWS code which worth $250, didn't find anything worth of thousand dollars as you said. Still no one should trade with him because he has scammed OP and it's still unsolved yet until now

I have doubt but I hope I'm wrong and he will refund you or send you the code.

He ran away for 4 years and do you think he will refund OP $9,973? (more than 6x times USD higher than amount he scammed before)

[DireWolfM14]

Account coming back from a long sleep could be hacked or bought and selling stuffs worth thousand of dollars made you suspicious not to mention the tag, that's a huge amount and the account is only full member he has nothing to lose with that account, I have doubt but I hope I'm wrong and he will refund you or send you the code.

Check the date on the OP; December 23, 2016, four years ago.  According to CMC bitcoin closed at $921.98 on that date.  wetsuit was scammed for the equivalent of $480.  Bitcoin is worth 20 times more now than it was on that date.

It doesn't really matter if the (Worldwide) account was compromised or sold, it seems obvious he's trying to scam.  Check his threads, many have sockpuppet reviews that smell like total bull shit.

@wetsuit, you should create a type 3 flag against (Worldwide)

[sandy-is-fine]

Thanks  ... the idiot even created a fake flag on me for some random other alleged scam thread. Interesting part is immediately after he did that 2 other tagged scammers jumped in and supported it.  There would be no way those 2 even knew it existed UNLESS he dropped his pants and exposed his smelly ALTS.   I don't give a fuck about it as it just gets lost among all the others but it does add a couple more connections to watch.

[TalkStar]

The person you are asking for screenshots made the accusation 4 years ago. @sandy-is-fine was just alerting member that the account just woke up after longtime.

"Wetsuit" who got scammed by this scammer isn't inactive and he was last active on November 30, 2020. Still he can include evidences like screenshots on his main thread. (Although i don't know he kept it yet or not)

Yes and yes.  Tagged and flagged, support flag here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2508

Thanks for opening the flag from your end. Flag supported from my end and user profile will tagged soon.  

[DireWolfM14]

Thanks  ... the idiot even created a fake flag on me for some random other alleged scam thread. Interesting part is immediately after he did that 2 other tagged scammers jumped in and supported it.  There would be no way those 2 even knew it existed UNLESS he dropped his pants and exposed his smelly ALTS.   I don't give a fuck about it as it just gets lost among all the others but it does add a couple more connections to watch.

I noticed that and opposed the flag, a type 2 no less.

What's the punishment for creating a flag that has no merit?  Oh, there isn't one?  Hmmm, maybe it's about time to hold flag abusers accountable.

[nutildah]

Thanks  ... the idiot even created a fake flag on me for some random other alleged scam thread. Interesting part is immediately after he did that 2 other tagged scammers jumped in and supported it.  There would be no way those 2 even knew it existed UNLESS he dropped his pants and exposed his smelly ALTS.   I don't give a fuck about it as it just gets lost among all the others but it does add a couple more connections to watch.

I noticed that and opposed the flag, a type 2 no less.

What's the punishment for creating a flag that has no merit?  Oh, there isn't one?  Hmmm, maybe it's about time to hold flag abusers accountable.

When dicks starting making fake flags against you, that's how you know you've really arrived.

Unfortunately the only punishment available now for false flaggers is trust list exclusion, though it could also be argued that leaving idiotic flags is grounds for red trust as the act in itself is indicative of untrustworthiness.

[sandy-is-fine]

When dicks starting making fake flags against you, that's how you know you've really arrived.

Unfortunately the only punishment available now for false flaggers is trust list exclusion, though it could also be argued that leaving idiotic flags is grounds for red trust as the act in itself is indicative of untrustworthiness.

LMAO!  What exactly does a trust list exclusion do especially for an already tagged spammer ?

[nutildah]

LMAO!  What exactly does a trust list exclusion do especially for an already tagged spammer ?

It's just a pre-emptive measure to make sure scammers feedback never matters in case if for some reason they ever get added to DT (it happens). And because they are willing to wantonly abuse the trust system with stupid flags they shouldn't be on DT regardless of whether or not they're a scammer.

[TheUltraElite]

The accused account has been tagged and flag supported. Their BS retaliatory flags have been opposed as well because they are lacking evidence of the same "Late Hero" is name calling and that does not count as evidence.

@wetsuit you are an old member of this forum, I understand you dealt with the accused previously but such deals are always risky. Possibility of a hacked account can also not be ruled out since the long inactivity but as hindsight it would have helped if you moved to some other members with better trust ratings instead of sticking to the same user. I know that is tough to do because it is human habit.

Seeing the retaliatory ratings from the accused I dont expect them to come clean on this.
OP might remember me as one of the first users who declared the 1000$ roll on freebitco.in in this forum. Might help brighten your day at least.

[robelneo]

Anyone who tagged the scammer got this annoying message  
instead of addressing the issue, he prefers to do name-calling and direct me to another scam report, so far I received similar messages from 4 out 5 members whom I tagged

[sandy-is-fine]

Yes, I got the exact same PM message.

I can also say, with maybe 90% 95%  99% certainty (Worldwide) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=877816 is an ALT of tagged scammers Economy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2170208 and Nogevi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2128667.   Been following their logins and posts the last few days and WORLDWIDE and ECONOMY are very often logged in within a minute of each other and often posting one right after the other (as in today).  Nogevi also often logs in within a few minutes of the other 1 or 2 very often as well as is the case right now.  While this can't be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt"
I'd bet lunch that it is the case.

My FINAL "evidence" is that (Worldwide) created a fake type 2 flag on me and the 2 users who immediately "supported" it were, surprise, Economy ad Nogevi.  There is no way anyone could have known that flag was posted since it wasn't active and immediately after the flag was added those 2 added their support and were all logged in around the same time.  Doesn't matter much since they are both (all three) obvious and multi-tagged scammers but just something I have been watching.

Anyone who tagged the scammer got this annoying message  
instead of addressing the issue, he prefers to do name-calling and direct me to another scam report, so far I received similar messages from 4 out 5 members whom I tagged