Been scamed by Aleister Crowley( group of other accounts involved)

[zazarb]

What happened:: Aleister Crowley took loan with deadline 17th Aug., after few my message, he  contact me only on 22th Aug. asking a wait  4 day , then gone .

On 27th Aug. I received pm :

Hi, could you please contact @Grace111 through telegram?

I was explained, that account bought recently, from  seller Franky   @kontollL123 (telegram)
I explain him that by buying account he assumes all obligations of the old owner.
According to him he they cooperate with Franky in other matters so issue will be solved in that way that he return account to Franky, Franky change him account to other and repay me. (Later 28th Aug. Franky contact me(trough telegram) saying that AC account has been held by his worker for 18 month and he don't know about loan(AC borrowed from me since Aug. 2017 multiple time), but he will repay the loan(tomorrow), just need to ask  worker about this. After a few more trivial messages he stopped communicating.

Same history with Grace @Grace111 (telegram) aka Krypital https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1421358 , he does not take any action.
From screenshot which he provided visible, that Franky contact with him before(19th july) from account Buzhuzima https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1756674 and offer to sell another hero account    abstractednerve  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=186403
So most likely he have even more accounts ready to sell.

(All screenshot available in my telegram)




Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=535846

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1161170.msg41636980#msg41636980
Amount Scammed:0.07BTC+
Payment Method: BTC transaction
Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/a2859559f43cb8ac5af89a8cd6ce478d5578311d1456244bcc8d46f4f459cd1c
PM/Chat Logs:
Additional Notes:

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[TBboys]

(Later 28th Aug. Franky contact me(trough telegram) saying that AC account has been held by his worker for 18 month and he don't know about loan(AC borrowed from me since Aug. 2017 multiple time), but he will repay the loan(tomorrow), just need to ask  worker about this. After a few more trivial messages he stopped communicating.

If what he said is true, then from a legal point of view, it is somewhat similar to “Apparent authority”
There is such a concept in the law "Apparent authority", I don't know how the laws of your country are regulated. Usually, Apparent authority means that even if the situation is true, it must bear the corresponding obligations.
In short, no matter whether his reasons are true or not, he has the obligation to compensate him for the money he owes you.

Reference：https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_authority

[yahoo62278]

Tagged til this is resolved. I have also sent Aleister a message on telegram. I have a different contact name then you apparently. Last time he messaged me was in june so if he replies ill tell him check this thread.

Is there a way to find a contacts @handle on telegram? Most users when I click their profile it will show me @blahblah but for this 1 there is nothing.

You can try just typing his name and see if the same picture pops up.

[zazarb]

Tagged til this is resolved. I have also sent Aleister a message on telegram. I have a different contact name then you apparently. Last time he messaged me was in june so if he replies ill tell him check this thread.

Is there a way to find a contacts @handle on telegram? Most users when I click their profile it will show me @blahblah but for this 1 there is nothing.

You can try just typing his name and see if the same picture pops up.

I do not exclude the possibility that Franky said true, that the account was used by his worker, that would explain why you have different telegram contact(worker).

Typing "@handle" on telegram , I found channel with 68 subscribers and notification, that user whom created this channel has been inactive for at least 5 months.

[zazarb]

Who is Buzhuzima ? Why do you accuse me of being here? I don't know anything about these two and your debt?

Yes, very smart ...

https://imgur.com/a/ZmqDpnH

https://imgur.com/W0vDyU4

[Joel_Jantsen]

Why you're the only lender that gets scammed for such high amounts? lol I feel sorry for you dude.

I don't know who Aleister is but that link in your post shows there was no collateral used in this loan. Did you know him personally or you just give him a loan of 0.07 BTC without any collateral?

[zazarb]

Why you're the only lender that gets scammed for such high amounts? lol I feel sorry for you dude.

I don't know who Aleister is but that link in your post shows there was no collateral used in this loan. Did you know him personally or you just give him a loan of 0.07 BTC without any collateral?

"high amount" it was sarcasm? because most likely it's the smallest amount I've been scammed for(by user on this forum).
Alester i don't know personally, but as mentioned in OP, he successfully borrowed multiple time , in the beginning with collateral later without.

[Avirunes]

Why you're the only lender that gets scammed for such high amounts? lol I feel sorry for you dude.

I don't know who Aleister is but that link in your post shows there was no collateral used in this loan. Did you know him personally or you just give him a loan of 0.07 BTC without any collateral?

"high amount" it was sarcasm? because most likely it's the smallest amount I've been scammed for(by user on this forum).
Alester i don't know personally, but as mentioned in OP, he successfully borrowed multiple time , in the beginning with collateral later without.

Sorry for your loss. Thats why I earlier mentioned to at least put a neutral feedback in profile page when you grant a loan (even the collateral ones). He wouldn't have gotten a chance to scam that account buyer as well (not that I feel sorry for him anyway). Also it is a better way so that other lenders are aware about it and don't end up giving another loan.

[zazarb]

Why you're the only lender that gets scammed for such high amounts? lol I feel sorry for you dude.

I don't know who Aleister is but that link in your post shows there was no collateral used in this loan. Did you know him personally or you just give him a loan of 0.07 BTC without any collateral?

"high amount" it was sarcasm? because most likely it's the smallest amount I've been scammed for(by user on this forum).
Alester i don't know personally, but as mentioned in OP, he successfully borrowed multiple time , in the beginning with collateral later without.

Sorry for your loss. Thats why I earlier mentioned to at least put a neutral feedback in profile page when you grant a loan (even the collateral ones). He wouldn't have gotten a chance to scam that account buyer as well (not that I feel sorry for him anyway). Also it is a better way so that other lenders are aware about it and don't end up giving another loan.

I have nothing against this practice, however, it is very little effective in this case,  there are almost no escrow agents who mediation accounts trade, without them usual accounts trade going "blind way", seller does not disclose account name until not receive money...

[Avirunes]

I have nothing against this practice, however, it is very little effective in this case,  there are almost no escrow agents who mediation accounts trade, without them usual accounts trade going "blind way", seller does not disclose account name until not receive money...

Yeah... kinda agree with that.


Anyway tried a little bit of search from the address end and here is something interesting that I have found. This is not a solid connection tho but what I am pointing might be possible.

Both these transactions https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/3ba3e1468a7c2ebe46e08930b1c501653c65180b44ac6a6f206509f7649e8e0b and https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d1990011457408669463ffe1db6518ecba0d4b49626735a49cb1c14129f6b363 are recent and sends to address https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1KehXY5S7Y6CDpAwoVM4WvubF7NHUbZPaK (CoinGaming.io) which I think might be a sportsbet.io deposit address.

Same address receives a deposit https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d10eecaeb4b2fea8f8492e93b4e6bae8da2134ad027d478fa30d1d79a1628cdb of 0.01 BTC way back in 2016 from 16oehwojxiXpTaF8FDw8oxSmEYHTheNxt6.

16oehwojxiXpTaF8FDw8oxSmEYHTheNxt6 is linked to Jasad (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=508432)

Enroll me..

Name: Jasad
Post count: 463
Rank: Senior Member
Bitcoin address: 16oehwojxiXpTaF8FDw8oxSmEYHTheNxt6
Profile UID: 508432

(Archive: http://archive.is/2s3Vj#selection-3067.0-3056.11)

I checked their posting style and quality (checked posts made in 2016 by Jasad: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=508432;sa=showPosts;start=2000) and I think it matches. It hasn't changed if you notice as they both start the sentences with lowercase but you might find a change in posting quality but that I think is basically an improvement he made over this period of time (2016-18).

Jasad is a hacked account and owned by someone else. Anyway here is another account: hacekd (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1185736) which is connected to Jasad who posts about the Jasad account being hacked : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2248165.msg22724233#msg22724233 (Archive: http://archive.fo/ZT4s8)

I checked hacekd's posting quality (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1185736;sa=showPosts;start=0) and I find it similiar with posting history of Alister Crowley (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=535846;sa=showPosts;start=0)

It doesn't proves this connection at all but like I said I am pointing to something that could be a possible connection...

Eitherway I found out that hacekd was actually plagiarizing contents and posting it here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.new#new