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What happened: Plagiarized content on the website, fake team member

Scammers Profile ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231600.0
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200309235449/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231600.0

Announced by: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2777781
Created Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1442

Scammers Website: bitclear.cash
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200310002911/http://bitclear.cash/




Team members are models who appear in many different places and offer different services
For example:

Tom Binegar Marketing Director is also here



Jane Nash Business Development is also on https://www.opensignal.com/romania or here https://bsacademyafrica.com/author/denise/instructing-courses/?wmc-currency=GHS



Aaron Ballance Business Development is also on https://freedomlinx.com/ (fake CEO also)





He uses random text and even if the website is old only 46 days, he has very serious experience: "528 YEARS EXPERIENCE" ??




Code:
Whois Record for BitClear.cash
 Domain Profile
Registrant REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Country us
Registrar Dynadot, LLC
IANA ID: 472
URL: http://dynadot.com
Whois Server: whois.dynadot.com

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Registrar Status clientTransferProhibited, transferPeriod
Dates 46 days old
Created on 2020-01-23
Expires on 2022-01-23
Updated on 2020-03-05

Plagiarised Terms & Conditions
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200310003017/http://bitclear.cash/terms.asp



Original source:
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https://bitclear.li/terms-and-conditions
https://nexex.io/terms-and-conditions/


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What happened: Plagiarized content on the website, fake team member

Scammers Profile ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231600.0
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200309235449/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231600.0

Announced by: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2777781
Created Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1442

Scammers Website: bitclear.cash
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200310002911/http://bitclear.cash/


https://i.ibb.co/MCBgVbj/Untitled.png

Team members are models who appear in many different places and offer different services
For example:

Tom Binegar Marketing Director is also here

https://i.ibb.co/1QsQSXr/12.png

Jane Nash Business Development is also on https://www.opensignal.com/romania or here https://bsacademyafrica.com/author/denise/instructing-courses/?wmc-currency=GHS

https://i.ibb.co/C27jvKJ/13.png

Aaron Ballance Business Development is also on https://freedomlinx.com/ (fake CEO also)

https://i.ibb.co/tCQHtsq/16.png



He uses random text and even if the website is old only 46 days, he has very serious experience: "528 YEARS EXPERIENCE" ??

https://i.ibb.co/d7scp4z/14.png


Code:
Whois Record for BitClear.cash
 Domain Profile
Registrant REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Country us
Registrar Dynadot, LLC
IANA ID: 472
URL: http://dynadot.com
Whois Server: whois.dynadot.com

(p)
Registrar Status clientTransferProhibited, transferPeriod
Dates 46 days old
Created on 2020-01-23
Expires on 2022-01-23
Updated on 2020-03-05

Plagiarised Terms & Conditions
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200310003017/http://bitclear.cash/terms.asp

https://i.ibb.co/1GChyvc/15.png

Original source:
https[Suspicious link removed]x.io/terms-and-conditions/




We are certainly not a scam, and we do not run off with people's money. We intend to develop a long-term sustainable business as opposed to running a scam.

I have noted many of the comments about our website and asked the person we hired for webdesign to make changes as required. There was a rush to get launched and the web designer took it upon himself to create marketing materials without actually consulting the business. As you say, the team photos and stats counters that were on the site were just fictional and have been removed. I also note that the Ts & Cs are just a rehash of a document used many times online and this needs correcting. To be honest you see this all the time, even in large organisations where people just copy legal documents. I agree that this needs sorting out, and I have made a comment to the person concerned.

The site and its intention, however, are not fictional/ and not a scam. I can assure you this. It is a little bit unfair to make the leap from frivolous marketing material to a scam. It is just a case of some marketing material that was frivolous.
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March 10, 2020, 01:41:03 PM
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We are certainly not a scam, and we do not run off with people's money. We intend to develop a long-term sustainable business as opposed to running a scam.

I have noted many of the comments about our website and asked the person we hired for webdesign to make changes as required. There was a rush to get launched and the web designer took it upon himself to create marketing materials without actually consulting the business. As you say, the team photos and stats counters that were on the site were just fictional and have been removed. I also note that the Ts & Cs are just a rehash of a document used many times online and this needs correcting. To be honest you see this all the time, even in large organisations where people just copy legal documents. I agree that this needs sorting out, and I have made a comment to the person concerned.

The site and its intention, however, are not fictional/ and not a scam. I can assure you this. It is a little bit unfair to make the leap from frivolous marketing material to a scam. It is just a case of some marketing material that was frivolous.

Now you remove fake team members pictures and you are no longer a fraud? Do you think that it goes so easy? Which large organisations use plagiarized documents as your own?
If you ready to steal someone's marketing material, what will hold you back to not steal someone's money?
Just to know, all plagiarist have the same excuse. A web designer or a marketing agency doing these mistake. We know that.

my personal opinion: This is a "business" run by one person (I want to believe he's an adult). Take free website themes from colorlib.com, change (copy/paste) some content, change the logo, add website name and voila, business is ready. I don't know, maybe it's behind the script or application will do something, but for sure not is a payment processor or anything legal.

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March 10, 2020, 02:11:36 PM
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We are certainly not a scam, and we do not run off with people's money. We intend to develop a long-term sustainable business as opposed to running a scam.

I have noted many of the comments about our website and asked the person we hired for webdesign to make changes as required. There was a rush to get launched and the web designer took it upon himself to create marketing materials without actually consulting the business. As you say, the team photos and stats counters that were on the site were just fictional and have been removed. I also note that the Ts & Cs are just a rehash of a document used many times online and this needs correcting. To be honest you see this all the time, even in large organisations where people just copy legal documents. I agree that this needs sorting out, and I have made a comment to the person concerned.

The site and its intention, however, are not fictional/ and not a scam. I can assure you this. It is a little bit unfair to make the leap from frivolous marketing material to a scam. It is just a case of some marketing material that was frivolous.

Now you remove fake team members pictures and you are no longer a fraud? Do you think that it goes so easy? Which large organisations use plagiarized documents as your own?
If you ready to steal someone's marketing material, what will hold you back to not steal someone's money?
Just to know, all plagiarist have the same excuse. A web designer or a marketing agency doing these mistake. We know that.

my personal opinion: This is a "business" run by one person (I want to believe he's an adult). Take free website themes from colorlib.com, change (copy/paste) some content, change the logo, add website name and voila, business is ready. I don't know, maybe it's behind the script or application will do something, but for sure not is a payment processor or anything legal.

You are wrong. Why reach conclusions like that without any basis? This is just your assumption and not based on evidence. You cannot know the code behind it based on your judegment of the HTML skin. **IT IS A FULL PAYMENT PROCESSING SOLUTION***. I welcome you to try it out with 10/ 100 Satoshi tests (There is no minimum on Bitcoin payments so you could try it out).  There will only have a nominal cost to you.

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March 10, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
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You are wrong. Why reach conclusions like that without any basis? This is just your assumption and not based on evidence.


I posted some of the evidence in the first opening post in this topic, you read it all.

You cannot know the code behind it based on your judegment of the HTML skin.

You are right and wrong, I can't know the code behind. But I can know that that you stole something from someone.

**IT IS A FULL PAYMENT PROCESSING SOLUTION***. I welcome you to try it out with 10/ 100 Satoshi tests (There is no minimum on Bitcoin payments so you could try it out).  There will only have a nominal cost to you.


everything is amateur done here. As a financial services business, there should be no omissions. is that right with you?



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March 10, 2020, 03:11:49 PM
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We are certainly not a scam, and we do not run off with people's money. We intend to develop a long-term sustainable business as opposed to running a scam.

Hopefully, you will not have anything to run with...

I have noted many of the comments about our website and asked the person we hired for webdesign to make changes as required. There was a rush to get launched and the web designer took it upon himself to create marketing materials without actually consulting the business. As you say, the team photos and stats counters that were on the site were just fictional and have been removed.

I need to buy a tally counter fo this excuse, do you know how many times I've heard this one?
You were in a hurry and you used somebody else's pictures..why?
It takes 3 damn seconds to take a selfie, your dev spent more searching for those fakes that it would have done with a real one.

And then you delete all the team and suddenly we have:
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Bitclear was started in 2016 by Henry Blade, our former CEO
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Merchant Instructions
Author: Justin Coombe

Where did you pick those up?

You're a business with 500+ years, lol of experience and all you have is a PO box? In Paraguay?

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You are wrong. Why reach conclusions like that without any basis? This is just your assumption and not based on evidence.


I posted some of the evidence in the first opening post in this topic, you read it all.

You cannot know the code behind it based on your judegment of the HTML skin.

You are right and wrong, I can't know the code behind. But I can know that that you stole something from someone.

**IT IS A FULL PAYMENT PROCESSING SOLUTION***. I welcome you to try it out with 10/ 100 Satoshi tests (There is no minimum on Bitcoin payments so you could try it out).  There will only have a nominal cost to you.


everything is amateur done here. As a financial services business, there should be no omissions. is that right with you?

https://i.ibb.co/d4qdt0z/21.png


The browser presents that warning on all http pages. It seems like websites are directlying everything to https these days even when there is no need to do it. My website only uses https for the loggedin sessions. This was defined as one of the requirements. Why does it matter infomration that is classified as "public" classification is not encrypted?
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March 10, 2020, 03:54:28 PM
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I need to buy a tally counter fo this excuse, do you know how many times I've heard this one?
You would need a great tally counter that would reach 374017802978019687293874091852. It's going to be digital. Lol.

The browser presents that warning on all http pages. It seems like websites are directlying everything to https these days even when there is no need to do it. My website only uses https for the loggedin sessions. This was defined as one of the requirements. Why does it matter infomration that is classified as "public" classification is not encrypted?
Having an "HTTPS" would serve as a "security" blanket feeling on the user when visiting a site. Making it more "legitimate". I think no one should log in/register on your site knowing that there is an insecure connection and a hacker could steal data from the information given.

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Merited this for the effort.

I already know the team already fake, but to lazy investigate more deeply.

We are certainly not a scam, and we do not run off with people's money. We intend to develop a long-term sustainable business as opposed to running a scam.

I have noted many of the comments about our website and asked the person we hired for webdesign to make changes as required. There was a rush to get launched and the web designer took it upon himself to create marketing materials without actually consulting the business.

There is no design at all on your website.

Your website was using a template from https://colorlib.com/ so basically you just changing the word on the template.

One of example, the picture of "Bitcoin Payment" was taken from different websites.


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I need to buy a tally counter fo this excuse, do you know how many times I've heard this one?
You would need a great tally counter that would reach 374017802978019687293874091852. It's going to be digital. Lol.

The browser presents that warning on all http pages. It seems like websites are directlying everything to https these days even when there is no need to do it. My website only uses https for the loggedin sessions. This was defined as one of the requirements. Why does it matter infomration that is classified as "public" classification is not encrypted?
Having an "HTTPS" would serve as a "security" blanket feeling on the user when visiting a site. Making it more "legitimate". I think no one should log in/register on your site knowing that there is an insecure connection and a hacker could steal data from the information given.

I have sent the link of these pages to our tech guy to consider implementing all suggestions.
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