Plagiarized Whitepaper - MEMV MetaMallVerse

[holydarkness]

What happened: Plagiarizing whitepaper
Suspect's Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3524446
Suspect's Website: https://memv.net/ | archived
Suspect's ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430664.0 | archived
Suspect's litepaper: https://memv.net/MEMV-Whitepaper-v1.pdf | archived
Plagiarized Sources:
[1] https://www.retailbiz.com.au/contributor/virtual-augmented-reality-actually-reshaping-retail/
[2] https://www.unlock-bc.com/81018/uae-future-blockchain-summit-to-showcase-blockchain-within-metaverse/

Support/oppose flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3073

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[MetaMallVerse]

Hello, Thank you for raising this concern, we have hired a new writer group and they are working on the new version of the whitepaper. Next week we are expecting to publish it.
Unfortunately, we have noticed this later than you did. We were in a little rush to run. Thanks again for raising the concern. Even writer used public information (News websites) to gain information, at least he needed to mention these media sources.

[holydarkness]

Hello, Thank you for raising this concern, we have hired a new writer group and they are working on the new version of the whitepaper. Next week we are expecting to publish it.
Unfortunately, we have noticed this later than you did. We were in a little rush to run. Thanks again for raising the concern. Even writer used public information (News websites) to gain information, at least he needed to mention these media sources.

Thank you for moving the discussion here. Can you give a logical and plausible reason why you "hired someone" --giving you benefit of doubts that you indeed outsourcing instead of caught red handed-- and not assigning such crucial aspect to one of your team member?

[albon]

Hello, Thank you for raising this concern, we have hired a new writer group and they are working on the new version of the whitepaper. Next week we are expecting to publish it.
Unfortunately, we have noticed this later than you did. We were in a little rush to run. Thanks again for raising the concern. Even writer used public information (News websites) to gain information, at least he needed to mention these media sources.

Most of the projects that have been exposed here that they have a plagiarized whitepaper in the Scam Accusations board have the same answers that they have hired a person and blamed this person, how can a project that wants to gain the trust of its investors and achieve future successes start its project with a plagiarized whitepaper without being mention the sources of information they took, and if they did not have one of the work team members who could create a legit whitepaper on his own that carries all the information, then excuse me, you are not professionals at all, anyway, where is the team of this project? I did not find any details about them on the site or in the whitepaper, and where are their Linkedin links?

[MetaMallVerse]

The main reason for hiring someone is English is not our native language. That's why we needed to hire someone to write our whitepaper, also writing needs different skills. We are not WRITERS but we are a group of engineers, IT specialists... So we dont see anything wrong with hiring someone to write our Whitepaper. We have told them our ideas, plans, vision, and mission and asked them to prepare them.

[Saisher]

The main reason for hiring someone is English is not our native language. That's why we needed to hire someone to write our whitepaper, also writing needs different skills. We are not WRITERS but we are a group of engineers, IT specialists... So we dont see anything wrong with hiring someone to write our Whitepaper. We have told them our ideas, plans, vision, and mission and asked them to prepare them.

It's ok to hire writers if English is not your native language, but not checking the work of your writer online for plagiarism is not right, we don't know if you're telling the truth because your alibi is the same alibis scammers have given to the community when they are caught, and you are not going to change your whitepaper if no one points this out, and it's not even our duty to check if your whitepaper is correct to tell them to you and you correct it, we are here to expose your plagiarism and fake platform and bust your project.

[holydarkness]

The main reason for hiring someone is English is not our native language. That's why we needed to hire someone to write our whitepaper, also writing needs different skills. We are not WRITERS but we are a group of engineers, IT specialists... So we dont see anything wrong with hiring someone to write our Whitepaper. We have told them our ideas, plans, vision, and mission and asked them to prepare them.

It's ok to hire writers if English is not your native language, but not checking the work of your writer online for plagiarism is not right, we don't know if you're telling the truth because your alibi is the same alibis scammers have given to the community when they are caught, and you are not going to change your whitepaper if no one points this out, and it's not even our duty to check if your whitepaper is correct to tell them to you and you correct it, we are here to expose your plagiarism and fake platform and bust your project.

It is not ok to hire someone to write your content, especially something as important as a business proposal, just because you're not speaking English. There's this thing called translator. You wrote your content in your native language, and someone can simply translate them into English, or dozen other languages. Whitepaper translation are often part of a bounty campaign, just pointing it out to prove whitepaper translation is not something new and innovative from my mind. Saying you hired someone to wrote your business paper just because you didn't speak English is a very poor excuse. What's next? You "hired" someone to use their photo because you don't think you're attractive enough?

[MetaMallVerse]

The main reason for hiring someone is English is not our native language. That's why we needed to hire someone to write our whitepaper, also writing needs different skills. We are not WRITERS but we are a group of engineers, IT specialists... So we dont see anything wrong with hiring someone to write our Whitepaper. We have told them our ideas, plans, vision, and mission and asked them to prepare them.

It's ok to hire writers if English is not your native language, but not checking the work of your writer online for plagiarism is not right, we don't know if you're telling the truth because your alibi is the same alibis scammers have given to the community when they are caught, and you are not going to change your whitepaper if no one points this out, and it's not even our duty to check if your whitepaper is correct to tell them to you and you correct it, we are here to expose your plagiarism and fake platform and bust your project.

You are completely right about checking the work part, we were very busy with many other tasks and we did not check for plagiarism. We will for sure be more careful for the rest of the journey, we will not outsource writing works. We will hire an in-house writer to handle such tasks.

[Saisher]

The main reason for hiring someone is English is not our native language. That's why we needed to hire someone to write our whitepaper, also writing needs different skills. We are not WRITERS but we are a group of engineers, IT specialists... So we dont see anything wrong with hiring someone to write our Whitepaper. We have told them our ideas, plans, vision, and mission and asked them to prepare them.

It's ok to hire writers if English is not your native language, but not checking the work of your writer online for plagiarism is not right, we don't know if you're telling the truth because your alibi is the same alibis scammers have given to the community when they are caught, and you are not going to change your whitepaper if no one points this out, and it's not even our duty to check if your whitepaper is correct to tell them to you and you correct it, we are here to expose your plagiarism and fake platform and bust your project.

It is not ok to hire someone to write your content, especially something as important as a business proposal, just because you're not speaking English. There's this thing called translator. You wrote your content in your native language, and someone can simply translate them into English, or dozen other languages. Whitepaper translation are often part of a bounty campaign, just pointing it out to prove whitepaper translation is not something new and innovative from my mind. Saying you hired someone to wrote your business paper just because you didn't speak English is a very poor excuse. What's next? You "hired" someone to use their photo because you don't think you're attractive enough?

You are right on this, now that they are caught they promise that they will do the right thing, but like what I posted this is the same alibis scammers have given to us after they are caught we don't know what parts of your platform are not working, for all we know you just hire people to create a plan for you.
If you have done your research you know that plagiarism is a serious offense here and you will eventually be caught and people will give your project negative feedback, all I know is its hard to get up from this

[MetaMallVerse]

We are working on our product, we are chasing our dream. Plagiarism may look like a serious problem to you I agree. However, this won't stop us if this is what you are looking for. We will prove ourselves with the product we are creating, not with the blah blah words written here and there. Once again thank you for raising the concern. We are fixing the issue about the whitepaper and lesson learned. These are the final words to be said in this matter.

[holydarkness]

[...] These are the final words to be said in this matter.

Sure, let's talk about something else,

You are completely right about checking the work part, we were very busy with many other tasks and we did not check for plagiarism. We will for sure be more careful for the rest of the journey, we will not outsource writing works. We will hire an in-house writer to handle such tasks.

I am not sure how swamped it need to be for a team to be unable to check something that's literally took less than minutes, so how many people are there in your team, again? I can't see any details about your team.

[MetaMallVerse]

[...] These are the final words to be said in this matter.

Sure, let's talk about something else,

You are completely right about checking the work part, we were very busy with many other tasks and we did not check for plagiarism. We will for sure be more careful for the rest of the journey, we will not outsource writing works. We will hire an in-house writer to handle such tasks.

I am not sure how swamped it needs to be for a team to be unable to check something that literally took less than minutes, so how many people are there in your team, again? I can't see any details about your team.

Of course, we have a team and you will meet with them at the second version of the Whitepaper. We did not add their names at version 1 because we are still forming the official structure of the team.

[holydarkness]

[...] These are the final words to be said in this matter.

Sure, let's talk about something else,

You are completely right about checking the work part, we were very busy with many other tasks and we did not check for plagiarism. We will for sure be more careful for the rest of the journey, we will not outsource writing works. We will hire an in-house writer to handle such tasks.

I am not sure how swamped it needs to be for a team to be unable to check something that literally took less than minutes, so how many people are there in your team, again? I can't see any details about your team.

Of course, we have a team and you will meet with them at the second version of the Whitepaper. We did not add their names at version 1 because we are still forming the official structure of the team.

Very nice. When can we expect this hopefully-not-plagiarized-anymore whitepaper v.2.0? It's worth mentioning that you're currently having your crowdsale running, people would need that important document before they could --and should-- consider and weighting if it's on their best interest to put their egg on your basket. I'll boldly assume these team will have transparent identity, real pic, etc. and not the good-old cartoonish avatar of your team?

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Of course, we have a team and you will meet with them at the second version of the Whitepaper. We did not add their names at version 1 because we are still forming the official structure of the team.

if you really have a team, I believe that it is not a problem for at least some of the members to be announced publicly. however, I can't find any information about it, either in ANN or on your website. considering your propensity for plagiarism, you cannot be trusted to say that this team really exists.
as the token sale process is ongoing, more accurate information and honesty are a must.

holydarkness, you still haven't created a flag?

[MetaMallVerse]

[...] These are the final words to be said in this matter.

Sure, let's talk about something else,

You are completely right about checking the work part, we were very busy with many other tasks and we did not check for plagiarism. We will for sure be more careful for the rest of the journey, we will not outsource writing works. We will hire an in-house writer to handle such tasks.

I am not sure how swamped it needs to be for a team to be unable to check something that literally took less than minutes, so how many people are there in your team, again? I can't see any details about your team.

Of course, we have a team and you will meet with them at the second version of the Whitepaper. We did not add their names at version 1 because we are still forming the official structure of the team.

Very nice. When can we expect this hopefully-not-plagiarized-anymore whitepaper v.2.0? It's worth mentioning that you're currently having your crowd sale running, people would need that important document before they could --and should-- consider and weighing if it's on their best interest to put their egg in your basket. I'll boldly assume these team will have transparent identity, real pic, etc. and not the good-old cartoonish avatar of your team?

You can expect the second version of the whitepaper by the second week of January. As long as they will have LinkedIn links with real information, it's not a problem to use avatars I think. It does not mean we will use avatars but that's my own view. I can point you to more than 50 projects that have their team with avatars and/or with NO TEAM they rock for a long time (ie. PIVX).

[coin-investor]

[...] These are the final words to be said in this matter.

Sure, let's talk about something else,

You are completely right about checking the work part, we were very busy with many other tasks and we did not check for plagiarism. We will for sure be more careful for the rest of the journey, we will not outsource writing works. We will hire an in-house writer to handle such tasks.

I am not sure how swamped it needs to be for a team to be unable to check something that literally took less than minutes, so how many people are there in your team, again? I can't see any details about your team.

Of course, we have a team and you will meet with them at the second version of the Whitepaper. We did not add their names at version 1 because we are still forming the official structure of the team.

Really since you got busted for plagiarizing your whitepaper let's see if you can be truthful about the composition of your team, you can do this by holding a webinar with all of your team presence and answering questions about your project or you can do a video of all of you, I have seen projects doing this holding a webinar and having a video of their meet up, although it's not a gurantee that the project is good and worth investing at least, you can prove that you are not faking this time.

[holydarkness]

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holydarkness, you still haven't created a flag?

Was giving them a benefit of doubts and waiting for them to prove that they're legit by showing us their team, but their latest answer below clearly shows they're 100% entitled for doubt. Flag is now raised and updated on the opening post.

You can expect the second version of the whitepaper by the second week of January. As long as they will have LinkedIn links with real information, it's not a problem to use avatars I think. It does not mean we will use avatars but that's my own view. I can point you to more than 50 projects that have their team with avatars and/or with NO TEAM they rock for a long time (ie. PIVX).

Three weeks? By then, your token sale is already over, you expect people to invest on you first before you show any sign of what a legit project possess, e.g.: original WP and/or clear team details? And why would it need that long? I thought you didn't write your own WP and had to --I'll pretend you did hire someone instead of caught red handed-- "resort to a freelancer" simply because English is not your native language, wouldn't that means you could just whip your already prepared draft and have someone to translate them for you in matter of hours?

And for NO TEAM that rock for a long time, can you please give us an example of one which also "outsourced" their WP and caught plagiarizes many materials?

A project who hired a content writer to write their document because "they-didn't-speak-English-although-their-replies-here-are-damn-near-perfect" are questionable, a project that's also not bothering to spend several minutes to proofread their materials are double questionable and deserve a flag right away, but that's my owm view, and I tried to give you a benefit of doubt. But certainly we have to protect the benefits of many, i.e.: your future investors, especially as you planned to prove your legitimacy only after the token sale is long over. So, in the name of Krampus and Ho-Ho-Ho, here's a flag, and a tag.

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Flag is now raised and updated on the opening post.

Flag supported I have also left negative feedback.

To the MetaMallVerse, if you still decide to run the entire project professionally and transparently, feel free to contact us here ^{on this topic} and present all the improvements you will bring. I will be happy to consider withdrawing the negative feedback.
until then, this will only be considered a scam attempt. there is no need to compare any other project because this is about trust in yours.

[MetaMallVerse]

It's completely OK guys. No negative feedback will make us stop. We are very dedicated to reaching our goals and making our project a very good platform. Now of course you don't want me to compare the TEAM Photo thing with the PIVX and other projects, because you know very well there are hundreds of successful projects who give Avatars as the team photos and only Telegram or Discord contacts. So your claims are blah blah here. Because PHOTO nor TEAM is not a must and many projects do not even have it while they are very successful.

And no. I refuse to come to this topic and beg for you to withdraw the unfair negative feedback you left.
You guys may follow the project and withdraw it when you see it necessary (If you are really honest about being community police).

PS: Coin-investor you gave a good idea which we will do 100% in the near future. So my words are not for you.

[2double0]

It's completely OK guys. No negative feedback will make us stop. We are very dedicated to reaching our goals and making our project a very good platform. Now of course you don't want me to compare the TEAM Photo thing with the PIVX and other projects, because you know very well there are hundreds of successful projects who give Avatars as the team photos and only Telegram or Discord contacts. So your claims are blah blah here. Because PHOTO nor TEAM is not a must and many projects do not even have it while they are very successful.

And no. I refuse to come to this topic and beg for you to withdraw the unfair negative feedback you left.
You guys may follow the project and withdraw it when you see it necessary (If you are really honest about being community police).

PS: Coin-investor you gave a good idea which we will do 100% in the near future. So my words are not for you.

The tags will definitely be removed if you do the right thing, because we are not here to keep our stance only but will also look forward to your part whether you serve what you said, or not.
Even if you didn't do it purposefully, this should serve as a lesson to upcoming projects who will hire writers for the themselves, especially the whitepaper part which serves as a pitch to attract your investor. We wish you good luck finding a better writer who will serve you with what you want, rather than copy-pasting someone else's work. And good luck for the success of your project as well, we hope you come out as not guilty in this case. 👍