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October 18, 2023, 01:10:15 PM
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Long story short:

A friend of mine mined a lot of Pi coin . So he asked me to hel him to sold them. I posted some request on Bitcointalk.org. I got in touch with user Support@web3devs , that proposed me 24,63 USD per PI coin, so after some message, my friend sent him 100 Pi coin Support@web3devs. For payement ask to nuyer to send amount in bitcoin to my staked address, but nothing happen and now i decided to opend a scam accusation due the fact that the user opened various post about his service of developer (so this would be a real warning about deal with him).

Please DT1/2 Tag him.




Scammer Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3312083
Telegram: @web3devs
Skype: https://join.skype.com/invite/u71BjLhA2YfZ
Marketplace Tread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334002.msg62975817#msg62975817

Amount SCammed: 100 pi coin or 2463 USD
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October 18, 2023, 01:13:00 PM
Last edit: October 18, 2023, 01:24:23 PM by Cantsay
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Wow, it’s quite surprising that a snr rank member would make the mistake of engaging in a risky trade with a newbie account without using an escrow.

From $25 to $24.6 shows that he does not want to put any doubt in your mind, normally he would have bargained for the price to go down more since the official price and your selling price is too different but he just accepted it and I guess the total amount got you that you didn’t even bother to check the authenticity of his account. But what is done is done, even if he receives a thousand negative feedbacks it will do him zero harm as the account in question is a newbie account and he can create a new one at anytime and continue his business again.

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October 18, 2023, 01:16:02 PM
Last edit: October 18, 2023, 01:26:43 PM by Gladitorcomeback
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The unofficial price of PI is around 0.3$ ,Now you can easily detect scammer when he gives you huge high price then market. I feel sorry for your friend loss but I will also blame you because you are old user of this forum then how you trust newbie without any escrow.

You should also create flag and add links, I will support flag. furthermore you should also gives negative, no matter you are DT or not. The lesson I learned from seniors.

What is your relationship with Irsada?


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October 18, 2023, 01:17:26 PM
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Yes. I Was little stupid. But 100 pi coin are about  wortless (can't be sold or trasnefered to exchenge, only p2p exchenge). My friend didn't lose anything at the end,  but at least we well find out a scammer.

Wow, it’s quite surprising that a snr rank member would make the mistake of engaging in a risky trade with a newbie account without using an escrow.
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October 18, 2023, 01:18:15 PM
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You are right: he scammed for less than 30 usdt. Really poor guy.

The unofficial price of PI is around 0.3$ ,Now you can easily detect scammer when he gives you huge high price then market. I feel sorry for your friend loss but I will also blame you because you are old user of this forum then how you trust newbie without any escrow.

You should also create flag and add links, I will support flag.
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October 18, 2023, 02:23:42 PM
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Yes. I Was little stupid. But 100 pi coin are about  wortless (can't be sold or trasnefered to exchenge, only p2p exchenge). My friend didn't lose anything at the end,  but at least we well find out a scammer.


Are there any scam elements here at all?
Someone didn't pay for a worthless coin, which is just some number in some app. In the same way, user Support@web3devs can open scam accusations, because someone offered him junk for $25 per unit.

You yourself claim that Pi is worthless, yet here you open a scam accusation for the amount of $2463.
Amount SCammed: 100 pi coin or 2463 USD

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October 18, 2023, 02:48:42 PM
Last edit: October 18, 2023, 03:03:25 PM by HedgeFx
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No, It's not exactly as you say. Pi coin is listed on some platforms, but its deposits are suspended https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pinetwork/. The price on these platforms is around 38 USD. But in P2P exchanges I have seen that the prices are much lower.

The scammer contacted me and offered $25 per PI coin. If you read the conversation you can clearly understand how things went.

Edit: my opinion about PI coin does't change. Is worthless and is a scam coin (it require Full Kyc for be able to exchange it!!!)



Yes. I Was little stupid. But 100 pi coin are about  wortless (can't be sold or trasnefered to exchenge, only p2p exchenge). My friend didn't lose anything at the end,  but at least we well find out a scammer.


Are there any scam elements here at all?
Someone didn't pay for a worthless coin, which is just some number in some app. In the same way, user Support@web3devs can open scam accusations, because someone offered him junk for $25 per unit.

You yourself claim that Pi is worthless, yet here you open a scam accusation for the amount of $2463.
Amount SCammed: 100 pi coin or 2463 USD

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October 18, 2023, 03:22:37 PM
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That should've been a red flag when the asking price was so high and that they don't mind to pay for a coin that can't be withdrawn, and it's weird that Pi Coin still exists because my friends have warned me about that coin a long time ago and they're laughing at people that are promoting this coin. Either way, the scammer didn't really profited that much out of this scam, 30$ worth of Pi Coins is just a pathetic scam, might as well just return that coin, other scammers are probably laughing at that scammer right now. I feel bad for that scammer a little bit, sold his soul for 30$, that's not even enough to pay rent lmao.
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Seems like you learned the lesson already, so not much to say in that regard.

I have supported your flag and added my own tag.

For anybody who wonders why I would believe this screenshot evidence of a scam and not others, the main reason is HedgeFX has bothered to build a reputation here for himself over the years, whereas Support@web3devs has not.

Someone didn't pay for a worthless coin, which is just some number in some app. In the same way, user Support@web3devs can open scam accusations, because someone offered him junk for $25 per unit.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears Support@web3devs offered the $25 first.

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October 18, 2023, 03:48:59 PM
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Thank you Nutildah.  

As wrote, PI aren’t mine. My friend decided to sent so I helped him. Decision to sent was made by him.

Edit: Also hope this post could be a real warning about this kind of shit-coin.


Seems like you learned the lesson already, so not much to say in that regard.

I have supported your flag and added my own tag.

For anybody who wonders why I would believe this screenshot evidence of a scam and not others, the main reason is HedgeFX has bothered to build a reputation here for himself over the years, whereas Support@web3devs has not.

Someone didn't pay for a worthless coin, which is just some number in some app. In the same way, user Support@web3devs can open scam accusations, because someone offered him junk for $25 per unit.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears Support@web3devs offered the $25 first.
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October 18, 2023, 05:11:27 PM
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-snip-
Are there any scam elements here at all?
Someone didn't pay for a worthless coin, which is just some number in some app. In the same way, user Support@web3devs can open scam accusations, because someone offered him junk for $25 per unit.
Yep, this is a scam perpetrated by web3devs despite the Picoin price is not being generally agreed upon, op's friend literally has lost the 100 unit.

-snip-
You yourself claim that Pi is worthless, yet here you open a scam accusation for the amount of $2463.
He couldn't, it was the seller and buyer's final agreement price which the scammer apparently had a reference for.

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October 18, 2023, 09:36:02 PM
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As wrote, PI aren’t mine. My friend decided to sent so I helped him. Decision to sent was made by him.

Edit: Also hope this post could be a real warning about this kind of shit-coin.
It is sad to see unethical people illegally stealing people’s currencies and money. Unfortunately, they are widely spread on the forum and in PI buying and selling groups, and what has allowed them to continue their scams is that the PI coin has not yet been traded on any of the exchange platforms so far, so there is an obstacle for those who hold this shitcoin and wish to sell it after months and years of fake mining. However, a trustworthy escrow service provided by a reliable middleman will solve this issue without the seller entering into deals for Newbies members who have not yet built a reputation on the forum.

Thank you for this warning, and I hope this loss will also be a turning point for your friend to stop wasting his precious time mining and collecting this worthless currency and looking for investment in other good currencies.

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October 18, 2023, 10:58:14 PM
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For anybody who wonders why I would believe this screenshot evidence of a scam and not others, the main reason is HedgeFX has bothered to build a reputation here for himself over the years, whereas Support@web3devs has not.


Supported the flag this will stop this scammer from further harming this community HedgeFX could have imposed his reputation and rank and just guaranty the deal on behalf of his friend by asking the buyer to send first, between the three of them HedgeFX has a good reputation and will likely lose a lot if he did not do his part of guaranteeing the deal.


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October 18, 2023, 11:09:31 PM
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No, It's not exactly as you say. Pi coin is listed on some platforms, but its deposits are suspended https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pinetwork/. The price on these platforms is around 38 USD. But in P2P exchanges I have seen that the prices are much lower.

There are no deposits or withdrawals, which means that the information is completely irrelevant.
Otherwise, it is a fake Pi coin. An incredible thing happened, someone faked the Pi, the mainnet, made a short hype and left with the money. You can read more about here

I'm honestly surprised that you got involved in mediation in this kind of deal at all, you seem like an experienced user.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears Support@web3devs offered the $25 first.

Yes, you're right.
Likewise, the conversation started with the total asked sum of 55700 USDT  Huh, via "how do you want to pay" to $1.2 per coin. After that, the buyer agrees to buy only 100 coins instead of 2288 coins for about the same money. This whole trade seems like a joke.

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Supported the Flag, however the money seems sadly long gone.

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October 19, 2023, 07:35:54 AM
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From your side, you are right But my friend is not competent in cryptocurrency matters. He finds these coins because he mined them from his cell phone , he ask my support. Consider that coin aren't mine and my friend decided to take this risk (he have about 3000 PI , and another friend have about 6.000 PI).

From my side consider that as i wrote my opinion doesn't change abou PI: 100% scam. Just consider that I would never mine a coin that asks me for KYC verification, But my friends did it, even though I warned them!  



I'm honestly surprised that you got involved in mediation in this kind of deal at all, you seem like an experienced user.

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It is interesting that user Support@web3devs, around the time when you created this scam accusations, reacted by leaving a negative tag on user irsada. Accusing him of the same thing, 100 Pi coins. I'm really interested in what his explanation is, what happened here.

irsada    2023-10-18        This is a scammer. Scammed me for 100 pi and blocked me. Don't and never deal with this scammer.


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October 19, 2023, 11:17:18 AM
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If look at the screenshot on telegram he posted the link of irsada profile , but when I ask why (?) he didn’t reply me.
Also irsada is tagged as sold account , so is quite possible that they are the same person


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It is interesting that user Support@web3devs, around the time when you created this scam accusations, reacted by leaving a negative tag on user irsada. Accusing him of the same thing, 100 Pi coins. I'm really interested in what his explanation is, what happened here.

irsada    2023-10-18        This is a scammer. Scammed me for 100 pi and blocked me. Don't and never deal with this scammer.


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October 19, 2023, 01:07:59 PM
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Long story short:

A friend of mine mined a lot of Pi coin . So he asked me to hel him to sold them. I posted some request on Bitcointalk.org. I got in touch with user Support@web3devs , that proposed me 24,63 USD per PI coin, so after some message, my friend sent him 100 Pi coin Support@web3devs. For payement ask to nuyer to send amount in bitcoin to my staked address, but nothing happen and now i decided to opend a scam accusation due the fact that the user opened various post about his service of developer (so this would be a real warning about deal with him).

You're the one at fault, why will you refer someone to another person without you having the trust in them, this buyer you're talking about is not that you know him in person, had a successful deal with him in the past, or is even a reputable member of the community being recognized and trusted, yet you make a recommendation to your friend to send him pi and no one is standing in gap of an escrow provider between you both, another thing is the fact that pi is still worth zero dollars till now, i don't think someone can accept the offer of buying at that rate you mentioned if not for scam as you've just had it.
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October 19, 2023, 01:31:34 PM
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You are wrong.

My friend decided to take the risk.  I warned him about the potential risk scam and of loss.
If you do some research you will see how there are several fake pages that speak well of PI.
My friend is totally new to this world, and like all newbies he makes a lot of mistakes. He doesn't even have a bicoin wallet, just as he has never exchanged any cryptocurrency. It's really difficult to make some people understand how many risks there are in this world: He continues to believe that the price of PI is the one shown on coinmarketcap.
And unfortunately the thing that makes me angry is that despite me clearly telling him to be careful, he is continuing to undermine PI from his smartphone.
I think there are many people like him.



Long story short:

A friend of mine mined a lot of Pi coin . So he asked me to hel him to sold them. I posted some request on Bitcointalk.org. I got in touch with user Support@web3devs , that proposed me 24,63 USD per PI coin, so after some message, my friend sent him 100 Pi coin Support@web3devs. For payement ask to nuyer to send amount in bitcoin to my staked address, but nothing happen and now i decided to opend a scam accusation due the fact that the user opened various post about his service of developer (so this would be a real warning about deal with him).

You're the one at fault, why will you refer someone to another person without you having the trust in them, this buyer you're talking about is not that you know him in person, had a successful deal with him in the past, or is even a reputable member of the community being recognized and trusted, yet you make a recommendation to your friend to send him pi and no one is standing in gap of an escrow provider between you both, another thing is the fact that pi is still worth zero dollars till now, i don't think someone can accept the offer of buying at that rate you mentioned if not for scam as you've just had it.
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