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Title: Congress Demands War in Ukraine!
Post by: Chef Ramsay on March 24, 2015, 12:55:07 AM
Just weeks after a European-brokered ceasefire greatly reduced the violence in Ukraine, the US House of Representatives today takes a big step toward re-igniting -- and expanding -- the bloody civil war.

A Resolution, "Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity," stealthily made its way to the House Floor today without having been debated in the relevant House Committees and without even being given a bill number before appearing on the Floor!

Now titled H. Res. 162, the bill demands that President Obama send lethal military equipment to the US-backed government in Kiev and makes it clear that the weapons are to be used to take military action to return Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine to Kiev's rule.

Congress wants a war in Ukraine and will not settle for a ceasefire!

The real world effect of this Resolution must be made clear: The US Congress is giving Kiev the green light to begin a war with Russia, with the implicit guarantee of US backing. This is moral hazard on steroids and could well spark World War III.

The Resolution conveniently ignores that the current crisis in Ukraine was ignited by the US-backed coup which overthrew the elected government of Viktor Yanukovych. The secession of Crimea and eastern Ukraine were a reaction to the illegal coup engineered by US officials such as Victoria Nuland and Geoff Pyatt. Congress instead acts as if one morning the Russians woke up and decided to invade Crimea and eastern Ukraine.

There is no mention at all of US backing for the coup -- or even that a coup took place!

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More...http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/march/23/congress-demands-war-in-ukraine/ (http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/march/23/congress-demands-war-in-ukraine/)


Title: Re: Congress Demands War in Ukraine!
Post by: Nemo1024 on March 25, 2015, 04:05:40 PM
Ron Paul, Eisenhower, JFK, Paul Craig Roberts. The sane voices in the Amrican politics. Pity they are too few to make an impact.


Title: Re: Congress Demands War in Ukraine!
Post by: Hamuki on March 25, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
The US has nothing to do there.

Its a conflict within Ukraine.

Russia has nothing to do there either.
Its Ukrainian soil.


Title: Re: Congress Demands War in Ukraine!
Post by: bitgeek on March 25, 2015, 05:25:26 PM
The US has nothing to do there.

Its a conflict within Ukraine.

Russia has nothing to do there either.
Its Ukrainian soil.

Of course. If only the world worked like that it would be much easier for us all to live in.
Don't forget to tell the Jews to move out of Palestinian land, the Americans to leave Afghanistan and so on.


Title: Re: Congress Demands War in Ukraine!
Post by: Nemo1024 on March 25, 2015, 09:43:14 PM
The US has nothing to do there.

Its a conflict within Ukraine.

Russia has nothing to do there either.
Its Ukrainian soil.

Ukraine, as an artificial state was de juro created by Lenin after a coup d'etet in Russia in 1917, consisting of Russian county of Novorossia. After the War, Stalin annexed Galicia to Ukraine, and a couple of decades later Khrushov robbed Russia of Crimea and anenxed it to Ukraine. Thus Ukraine was born. Now the Galicians have taken to arms and say that Ukraine is for Galicians, and that Russians must be killed.  It does not change the fact that people living in Ukraine, in its Eastern part are Russian.

Russia has quite a lot to do there, in fact. It's a pity that Russia does so little to defend the Russians that are under siege there by the Galicians.

As for US - it has a strong lobby consisting of Ukrainia emigree, which basically bought up the American political top.

Let's take a hypothetical scenario. The Dutch-speaking citizens of Belgium start killing the French speaking ones, calling for full extermination of the French there, saying that Belgium is only for the Dutch. US sends lethal weapons to the Dutch-speaking residents and endorses the genocide. Should France just sit idly and see the French-speaking population of Belgium be exterminated?