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Title: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: korila on March 25, 2015, 11:05:15 AM
those who believe in BTC, they think it's precious and will rise again.

But those who don't believe in BTC, it's just bullshit nonsense fantasy


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: calme on March 25, 2015, 11:38:01 AM
it's also like christianity in that if you're into it, there's a decent chance that you're fuckin' obsessed with it and think it will determine your future. and ppl will want to stay well away from you, since you're obsessed about something they've practically never heard of. and you'll just think they're beartards.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Josef27 on March 25, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
I'm a Christian, but I always let that slide because your argument isn't worth my time. Especially you compared the Bible with Bitcoin, like comparing apple to orange. Made no sense imho

If you hate BTC so much, why just keep quiet? Let us choose your own way, I didn't even bother with your way.
Just keep use your own currency, I had a reason to use BTC so that why I use it.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Mervyn_Pumpkinhead on March 25, 2015, 12:07:11 PM
I think that the mentality of the bitcoin community is very similar with the mentality of religious groups and Satoshi's white paper is like the bible, both full of dogmas.
To the bitcoin fanatics, there is no room for doubt on Satoshis words. If you have doubt, then the fanatics will tell you that you have to read the white paper again, and again, and again, until you finally realize the same truth as they see. Quite similar to religious fanatics.

The cold hard truth is, that financially, bitcoin is a gimmick. For it to be used as store of value, it's too unstable, and for transfer of value, it's too inconvenient. So, practicality won't give it value and the only thing left to give it value is belief that it has value. And if something is this much dependent on belief, then there's no surprise that recognizable religious patterns will emerge.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Ask Ken About Love on March 25, 2015, 12:18:56 PM
http://s13.postimg.org/gt3k12ts7/jimjones.jpg


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Q7 on March 25, 2015, 12:31:18 PM
Well I try not to connect it to religion. Whatever I believe in about the future of bitcoin, I have my reasons for it and same goes for those non-believers. Each of us have our own rights to our own option and I won't criticize others just because their opinions are not aligned with mine. However, one thing I would like to point out is that I'm not in total obsession. Bitcoin do have its own weaknesses.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: futureofbitcoin on March 25, 2015, 12:42:00 PM
bitcoin believers are like christians, in that the vast majority never read the white paper (or the bible). And the majority of those who did probably don't fully understand it.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: korila on March 25, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
I'm a Christian, but I always let that slide because your argument isn't worth my time. Especially you compared the Bible with Bitcoin, like comparing apple to orange. Made no sense imho

If you hate BTC so much, why just keep quiet? Let us choose your own way, I didn't even bother with your way.
Just keep use your own currency, I had a reason to use BTC so that why I use it.

I dont hate BTC, I trade BTC daily,

It's just when I am long, I am hyped as fuck,
BUT when I am shorting, I feel like this BTC wholething is virtual bullshit.


It's quite similar in that you have to be faithful :)
wholething is about faith that network will survive and spread all over the world

also when you explain it to average joe, they think you are brain washed something



Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Furio on March 25, 2015, 12:47:10 PM
Bitcoin is focussing on disrupting the status quo, but the bible wishes to protect and rely on the status quo, your comparison makes absoltely no sense....

Maybe you mean like the followers are cult like, that I can understand, but you don't say that :)


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: korila on March 25, 2015, 12:52:00 PM
Bitcoin is focussing on disrupting the status quo, but the bible wishes to protect and rely on the status quo, your comparison makes absoltely no sense....

Maybe you mean like the followers are cult like, that I can understand, but you don't say that :)

I am pretty sure Jesus and Christian thing was pretty disruptive to Roman empire at that time~


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Ask Ken About Love on March 25, 2015, 12:54:18 PM
^That.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on March 25, 2015, 01:35:51 PM
In the bible book everyone pays with bitcoin.

https://bitcoinstar.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/btc-ver-e1382525432756.jpg?w=960&h=260&crop=1


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Beliathon on March 25, 2015, 01:54:17 PM
those who believe in understand blockchain technology, think it's precious and will rise again.

But those who don't believe in don't understand the unavoidable consequences of this innovation, think it's just bullshit nonsense fantasy

Fixed that for you. Cryptography and mathematics are not about belief, but about observation.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Furio on March 25, 2015, 02:16:51 PM
Bitcoin is focussing on disrupting the status quo, but the bible wishes to protect and rely on the status quo, your comparison makes absoltely no sense....

Maybe you mean like the followers are cult like, that I can understand, but you don't say that :)

I am pretty sure Jesus and Christian thing was pretty disruptive to Roman empire at that time~

"at the time", we're in 2015 now, and you can't deny that it is protecting and relying on the status quo :)


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: oblivi on March 25, 2015, 05:25:25 PM
those who believe in BTC, they think it's precious and will rise again.

But those who don't believe in BTC, it's just bullshit nonsense fantasy
A man dying and then resurrecting flying up the sky as the prophet of God is nonsense fantasy.
The fact I can send a million dollars through skype by exchanging QR codes with a smartphone bypassing endless fees and limitations is indeed a FACT.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: SilenceOfTheLamb on March 25, 2015, 05:53:57 PM
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"at the time", we're in 2015 now, and you can't deny that it is protecting and relying on the status quo :)

A two-thousand-year-old book about a poor d00d who scorned wealth & called all earthly authority bullshit is "protecting and relying on the status quo"?
And those who hoard BTCeanie BTCabies Bitcoin are the real rebels?
::)


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: waterpile on March 25, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
Nope, BTC ain't a bible book, it would rather make sense if you compared it with the NY Stock Exchange.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Ask Ken About Love on March 25, 2015, 09:09:13 PM
Nope, BTC ain't a bible book, it would rather make sense if you compared it with the NY Stock Exchange. BTCeanie BTCabies.

FTFY


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Hyena on March 25, 2015, 09:24:27 PM
buy, hold and take them to the grave with you in a brain wallet!


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Natalia_AnatolioPAMM on March 25, 2015, 09:37:49 PM
bitcoin believers are like christians, in that the vast majority never read the white paper (or the bible). And the majority of those who did probably don't fully understand it.

i definitely read it ONLY like the bible


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: NotHatinJustTrollin on March 25, 2015, 09:40:28 PM
The Satoshi Holy Bible:


Bitcoin gets nailed to a cross.

The End.




Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on March 26, 2015, 04:17:25 PM
The Satoshi Holy Bible:


Bitcoin gets nailed to a cross.

The End.




Not the end, you missed the last page:

Bitcoin resurrects from the dead and takes over the world, may peace be upon Satoshi.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Furio on March 27, 2015, 08:14:56 AM
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"at the time", we're in 2015 now, and you can't deny that it is protecting and relying on the status quo :)

A two-thousand-year-old book about a poor d00d who scorned wealth & called all earthly authority bullshit is "protecting and relying on the status quo"?
And those who hoard BTCeanie BTCabies Bitcoin are the real rebels?
::)

You really don't understnad Cristianity NOWADAYS, church is corporations...., not an opinion but fact. You refer to the views of JEZUS himself, which sadly has nothing to do with the church nowadays, the real words of the bible are non-existent, it has been rewrittin so many times, please research :)


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Amph on March 27, 2015, 08:17:41 AM
i can see comparing it in the way of jesus coming with the bibble(satoshi coming with bitcoin), but the problem is that satoshi could be more than one person

Christians believe in the bible, like early adopters believe in bitcoin, it can make sense i suppose  :D


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Hyena on March 27, 2015, 12:42:28 PM
i can see comparing it in the way of jesus coming with the bibble(satoshi coming with bitcoin), but the problem is that satoshi could be more than one person

Christians believe in the bible, like early adopters believe in bitcoin, it can make sense i suppose  :D

Christianity and Islam have done a "great" job making everyone believe that we have been created by something or someone. If we have been created then there must be a supreme creator, right? We came to this world by the hands of the supreme creator and we must be humble and thankful for it. That way of thinking automatically gives way to monarchism and the foul pyramid of masters and slaves.

But here's another way to look at things --- we didn't come to this world, we came out of this world similarly to a tree coming out of a seed. We are the Big Bang (assuming that there was such an event). According to that, we must govern ourselves instead of letting someone to govern us. Bitcoin --- being decentralized --- ideally fits into this way of thinking. This is it, bros, block chain is the new paradigm not only in computer science but in religion too! It's a proof of concept that we can live without rulers.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: SilenceOfTheLamb on March 27, 2015, 01:01:47 PM
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"at the time", we're in 2015 now, and you can't deny that it is protecting and relying on the status quo :)

A two-thousand-year-old book about a poor d00d who scorned wealth & called all earthly authority bullshit is "protecting and relying on the status quo"?
And those who hoard BTCeanie BTCabies Bitcoin are the real rebels?
::)

You really don't understnad Cristianity NOWADAYS, church is corporations...., not an opinion but fact. You refer to the views of JEZUS himself, which sadly has nothing to do with the church nowadays, the real words of the bible are non-existent, it has been rewrittin so many times, please research :)

No, I'm talking about the Bible, which is what OP is comparing BTC to.  Blaming the Bible for what has been done with it is as absurd as blaming Communism for Stalin's shenanigans, or the blockchain for clueless Bitcoiners getting surprise buttsecsed by their betters.
"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."--BrainyQuotes.com

The Bible has been translated (not "rewritten") many times.  It's a canonical collection of texts, some [purportedly] divinely inspired, with stern warnings against corruption:
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book"--KJV

The Bible is to be read and understood, not "researched."  The Truth of the Bible is is gleemed through prayer, not research.  That's a separate thing, domain of the theologians, called scientism.  An omnipotent deity, unbound by mundane logic (which, by definition, is His creation), can make Himself known to the lowliest.
"Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."--KJV

TL;DR:  Faith is a kind of understanding that has nothing to do with facts or logic, it's the very opposite of what could be proven with facts and logic--by definition.


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: Furio on March 30, 2015, 04:18:24 PM
...
"at the time", we're in 2015 now, and you can't deny that it is protecting and relying on the status quo :)

A two-thousand-year-old book about a poor d00d who scorned wealth & called all earthly authority bullshit is "protecting and relying on the status quo"?
And those who hoard BTCeanie BTCabies Bitcoin are the real rebels?
::)

You really don't understnad Cristianity NOWADAYS, church is corporations...., not an opinion but fact. You refer to the views of JEZUS himself, which sadly has nothing to do with the church nowadays, the real words of the bible are non-existent, it has been rewrittin so many times, please research :)

No, I'm talking about the Bible, which is what OP is comparing BTC to.  Blaming the Bible for what has been done with it is as absurd as blaming Communism for Stalin's shenanigans, or the blockchain for clueless Bitcoiners getting surprise buttsecsed by their betters.
"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."--BrainyQuotes.com

The Bible has been translated (not "rewritten") many times.  It's a canonical collection of texts, some [purportedly] divinely inspired, with stern warnings against corruption:
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book"--KJV

The Bible is to be read and understood, not "researched."  The Truth of the Bible is is gleemed through prayer, not research.  That's a separate thing, domain of the theologians, called scientism.  An omnipotent deity, unbound by mundane logic (which, by definition, is His creation), can make Himself known to the lowliest.
"Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."--KJV

TL;DR:  Faith is a kind of understanding that has nothing to do with facts or logic, it's the very opposite of what could be proven with facts and logic--by definition.

If you say the bible has been translated and not rewrittin, please research it, alot of original meanings have been perverted by the church, Maria never was inpregnated by god, it was rewrittin by the church in order to ban out sex as something sinfull, in the old days, sex was the only way to reach diviness, that wahat was writtin, but in 300 the church tought different and started rewritting... please RESEARCH it :) good starting point, the dead seascrolls ;)


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: SilenceOfTheLamb on March 30, 2015, 04:24:01 PM
...
"at the time", we're in 2015 now, and you can't deny that it is protecting and relying on the status quo :)

A two-thousand-year-old book about a poor d00d who scorned wealth & called all earthly authority bullshit is "protecting and relying on the status quo"?
And those who hoard BTCeanie BTCabies Bitcoin are the real rebels?
::)

You really don't understnad Cristianity NOWADAYS, church is corporations...., not an opinion but fact. You refer to the views of JEZUS himself, which sadly has nothing to do with the church nowadays, the real words of the bible are non-existent, it has been rewrittin so many times, please research :)

No, I'm talking about the Bible, which is what OP is comparing BTC to.  Blaming the Bible for what has been done with it is as absurd as blaming Communism for Stalin's shenanigans, or the blockchain for clueless Bitcoiners getting surprise buttsecsed by their betters.
"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."--BrainyQuotes.com

The Bible has been translated (not "rewritten") many times.  It's a canonical collection of texts, some [purportedly] divinely inspired, with stern warnings against corruption:
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book"--KJV

The Bible is to be read and understood, not "researched."  The Truth of the Bible is is gleemed through prayer, not research.  That's a separate thing, domain of the theologians, called scientism.  An omnipotent deity, unbound by mundane logic (which, by definition, is His creation), can make Himself known to the lowliest.
"Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."--KJV

TL;DR:  Faith is a kind of understanding that has nothing to do with facts or logic, it's the very opposite of what could be proven with facts and logic--by definition.

If you say the bible has been translated and not rewrittin, please research it, alot of original meanings have been perverted by the church, Maria never was inpregnated by god, it was rewrittin by the church in order to ban out sex as something sinfull, in the old days, sex was the only way to reach diviness, that wahat was writtin, but in 300 the church tought different and started rewritting... please RESEARCH it :) good starting point, the dead seascrolls ;)

Research has nothing to do with this.  The Bible can be understood through research no more than quantum physics through prayer :)


Title: Re: BTC is like a bible book
Post by: oblivi on March 30, 2015, 09:22:31 PM
i can see comparing it in the way of jesus coming with the bibble(satoshi coming with bitcoin), but the problem is that satoshi could be more than one person

Christians believe in the bible, like early adopters believe in bitcoin, it can make sense i suppose  :D
Well if I was one of the very early adopters and become a millonaire overnight I may have gone insane enough to think that Satoshi is Jesus H Christ thyself blessing me with being one of the chosen ones, sadly I never will know that feel, but will surely thank Satoshi in the future when BTC goes 10K.