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Title: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 13, 2012, 02:16:05 AM
I was wondering if the Bitcoin community tends to be male-dominant and young, especially with many memes that poke fun at elderly women, of which likely few use Bitcoin. Since I think this community is a large sample of Bitcoin users, I'm starting a poll. Unless forum admins are snooping, this is fully anonymous, so please be honest!

Clarifications
  • Age is measured from date of birth. All categories are inclusive.
  • Please enter your gender at birth if you cannot classify yourself as male or female.
  • If you have more than one account, please vote with only one account.
  • Please vote as soon as you see this thread, so as to avoid bias in people crossing age boundaries.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: malevolent on August 13, 2012, 09:25:26 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24709.msg306981


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: myrkul on August 13, 2012, 11:02:25 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24709.msg306981

Yes, but this one includes gender, and, for some reason, a 0-9 category.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 13, 2012, 12:44:32 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24709.msg306981

Yes, but this one includes gender, and, for some reason, a 0-9 category.
People on the upper end of that category likely have the ability to utilize BitcoinTalk (and, to be honest, the frequency of speeling erors on this forum do indicate a younger population).

Nonetheless, my real reason for including the 0-9 category is to make a population pyramid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_pyramid).


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: malevolent on August 13, 2012, 04:23:19 PM
(and, to be honest, the frequency of speeling erors on this forum do indicate a younger population).

I wouldn't say so. English language is the mother tongue of maybe half of Bitcoin users.

http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/
Scroll down to country of host.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 13, 2012, 05:28:44 PM
(and, to be honest, the frequency of speeling erors on this forum do indicate a younger population).

I wouldn't say so. English language is the mother tongue of maybe half of Bitcoin users.

http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/
Scroll down to country of host.

Google Translate doesn't produce spelling errors (it does produce weird ways of expressing things, however). Posts like these indicate not foreignness to the English language, but rather incapability to properly convey English with proper orthography.

oh god i didnt know where is restriction for newbie. Admin/mods can you please whitelist me? I need to contact/reply to BFL. They dont seem to answer my email at all.

 :-\

I've herd there cust support isn't the best

because there is not clear information abour newbies restrinction, i thing it shoul be some information on first page

Well for me I think Solo mining would make sense.Think about it at the time of this writing 1 BTC goes around 13.40 give or take.If you wait long enough to break a block(depending on what hardware you have) you'll eventually get 50 BTC which when multiplied to the current rate would be 670 USD. Now if you factor in how much 1 BTC will be valued by the time you break a block you'll get alot more than that because as we know bitcoin prices can get pretty high.But you also have to factor in alot of other variables such as the cost of the rig(Unless you happen to have one already) Electricity(Unless you don't pay it) and time(unless you don't have shit to do.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: malevolent on August 13, 2012, 06:10:19 PM

Google Translate doesn't produce spelling errors (it does produce weird ways of expressing things, however). Posts like these indicate not foreignness to the English language, but rather incapability to properly convey English with proper orthography.

Not knowing a language proficiently does not translate to not knowing it at all. Only people who barely know a language will use Google Translate to communicate in it (unless they are oblivious to errors it is prone to make).

I think the posts' quotes you posted actually do indicate foreignness to the English language :)

At least two users here look like non-native English speakers to me:

Huesos - that's a Spanish sounding nickname, 'huesos' means 'bones'
and
tomaszsz - 'Tomasz' is a Polish equivalent of 'Thomas'



Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 16, 2012, 11:40:35 PM
Interesting that so far, the ratio of males to females is 11:1. This is much more male-dominant than I expected, and much higher than the forum stats page would suggest.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: ildubbioso on August 16, 2012, 11:57:05 PM
80+ female? I doubt that  :P


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 17, 2012, 12:07:04 AM
80+ female? I doubt that  :P
Remember that the sample size is still small, so 1.6% is meaningless (try rounding to the nearest 5% for more accurate results). The group of males in their twenties seems dominant at the moment, supporting the hypothesis that this is a young male-dominant community.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: Fluttershy on August 19, 2012, 05:05:04 PM
Thanks for shunting everyone onto the gender binary. Not everyone identifies as 100% male or female.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 19, 2012, 06:48:27 PM
Clarifications
  • Age is measured from date of birth. All categories are inclusive.
  • Please enter your gender at birth if you cannot classify yourself as male or female.
  • If you have more than one account, please vote with only one account.
  • Please vote as soon as you see this thread, so as to avoid bias in people crossing age boundaries.
Thanks for shunting everyone onto the gender binary. Not everyone identifies as 100% male or female.
I did try to avoid this.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: myrkul on August 20, 2012, 05:14:06 AM
Clarifications
  • Age is measured from date of birth. All categories are inclusive.
  • Please enter your gender at birth if you cannot classify yourself as male or female.
  • If you have more than one account, please vote with only one account.
  • Please vote as soon as you see this thread, so as to avoid bias in people crossing age boundaries.
Thanks for shunting everyone onto the gender binary. Not everyone identifies as 100% male or female.
I did try to avoid this.
Don't stress about the trolls. If they can't read, it's not your fault.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 24, 2012, 05:09:12 PM
We have our first voter who has not reached the age of ten yet. Together with the middle school, high school, and university students in the teens, Bitcoin is turning out to be a very young community.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: ninjaboon on August 24, 2012, 05:11:10 PM
We have our first voter who has not reached the age of ten yet. Together with the middle school, high school, and university students in the teens, Bitcoin is turning out to be a very young community.

The GEN-Ys are coming in now - Male, 20–29    - 39 (41.5%)


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: chmod755 on August 24, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
Quote
Female, 80+    4 (4.3%)

seems legit


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 24, 2012, 05:27:15 PM
Quote
Female, 80+    4 (4.3%)

seems legit
Unfortunately, there's no statistically accurate way of removing this inaccuracy. The only thing I can suggest is to ignore categories under 5% for now.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: bitcoinbear on August 24, 2012, 05:33:12 PM
Thanks for shunting everyone onto the gender binary. Not everyone identifies as 100% male or female.

Either you are capable of bearing children (female) or you are not (male). Seems pretty binary to me?


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: RodeoX on August 24, 2012, 05:49:12 PM
Thanks for shunting everyone onto the gender binary. Not everyone identifies as 100% male or female.
But even if they consider themselves to be a kangaroo, they are either male of female. With rare exceptions for hermaphrodites.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on August 24, 2012, 05:51:33 PM
Thanks for shunting everyone onto the gender binary. Not everyone identifies as 100% male or female.

Either you are capable of bearing children (female) or you are not (male). Seems pretty binary to me?
Postmenopause, prepuberty, hermaphrodites, etc.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: myrkul on August 24, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
Please enter your gender at birth if you cannot classify yourself as male or female.

That will cover almost everyone.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: malevolent on September 13, 2012, 06:57:43 PM
Bumping this thread.

Vote here too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24709.msg306981


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: theymos on September 13, 2012, 08:04:12 PM
For users with more than 4 posts who filled out this info in their profiles:

1,660 Male
65 Female

Birth years:
Code:
|        1 | 1901 |
|        1 | 1908 |
|        2 | 1911 |
|        1 | 1933 |
|        2 | 1941 |
|        2 | 1949 |
|        1 | 1950 |
|        3 | 1951 |
|        1 | 1954 |
|        1 | 1955 |
|        1 | 1956 |
|        5 | 1957 |
|        2 | 1958 |
|        3 | 1960 |
|        3 | 1961 |
|        2 | 1963 |
|        2 | 1964 |
|        5 | 1965 |
|        7 | 1966 |
|        5 | 1967 |
|       10 | 1968 |
|        9 | 1969 |
|       18 | 1970 |
|        8 | 1971 |
|        8 | 1972 |
|       14 | 1973 |
|       17 | 1974 |
|       15 | 1975 |
|       16 | 1976 |
|       19 | 1977 |
|       22 | 1978 |
|       26 | 1979 |
|       42 | 1980 |
|       32 | 1981 |
|       28 | 1982 |
|       43 | 1983 |
|       24 | 1984 |
|       38 | 1985 |
|       40 | 1986 |
|       28 | 1987 |
|       34 | 1988 |
|       37 | 1989 |
|       38 | 1990 |
|       23 | 1991 |
|       31 | 1992 |
|        9 | 1993 |
|       11 | 1994 |
|       11 | 1995 |
|        4 | 1996 |
|        4 | 1997 |
|        2 | 1998 |
|        1 | 2001 |
|        1 | 2003 |

Total: 713


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on September 13, 2012, 08:09:14 PM
For users with more than 4 posts who filled out this info in their profiles:

1,660 Male
65 Female

Birth years:
|        4 | 1996 |
|        4 | 1997 |
|        2 | 1998 |
|        1 | 2001 |
|        1 | 2003 |

I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: theymos on September 13, 2012, 08:17:34 PM
I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?

Could be. I was also surprised about that.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: gbl08ma on September 13, 2012, 09:10:03 PM
I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?

Could be. I was also surprised about that.

Not only that, some of these younger people tend to say they are older than what they actually are (even though those usually don't get out of the newbie section, and when they get, some deserve being sent back)...
Personally I'll vote in for the "Male, 10–19" category now. It's not like my real date of birth and gender can't be easily found with a internet search... :)


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: malevolent on September 13, 2012, 10:50:46 PM

I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?

There is 64k of members and only 2.7% of them filled out the info in their profiles. The list is too small (not to mention we don't how many of them submit false info to gain credibility).


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on September 13, 2012, 11:20:18 PM

I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?

There is 64k of members and only 2.7% of them filled out the info in their profiles. The list is too small (not to mention we don't how many of them submit false info to gain credibility).
I guess it might have something to do with the scams on these forums. Minors, which are prevalent scammers, register and claim to be 20+ for credibility.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: mobodick on September 14, 2012, 12:21:00 PM


I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?
You don't have to buy it because that is not what you're measuring.
You're specifically measuring the age of people who found this thread and participated in the poll.
And then there is no certainty about truthfullness of answers.
It is not a balanced representation of the people visiting this forum.


Edit: fixed some quoting confusion :)


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: muyuu on September 14, 2012, 12:30:26 PM

I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?
You don't have to buy it because that is not what you're measuring.
You're specifically measuring the age of people who found this thread and participated in the poll.
And then there is no certainty about truthfullness of answers.
It is not a balanced representation of the people visiting this forum.



It does convey the general picture that the biggest group is males in their 20s followed by males in their 30s. That's the impression I get as well.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: myrkul on September 14, 2012, 12:36:34 PM
I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?
You don't have to buy it because that is not what you're measuring.
You're specifically measuring the age of people who found this thread and participated in the poll.
And then there is no certainty about truthfullness of answers.
It is not a balanced representation of the people visiting this forum.

It does convey the general picture that the biggest group is males in their 20s followed by males in their 30s. That's the impression I get as well.

Sorry, I just had to fix that.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on September 14, 2012, 07:36:26 PM


I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?
You don't have to buy it because that is not what you're measuring.
You're specifically measuring the age of people who found this thread and participated in the poll.
And then there is no certainty about truthfullness of answers.
It is not a balanced representation of the people visiting this forum.


Edit: fixed some quoting confusion :)
I acknowledged this, but I was not referring to people I was measuring. I was referring to theymos's forum dump, which did not seem accurate.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: mobodick on September 14, 2012, 09:42:36 PM


I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?
You don't have to buy it because that is not what you're measuring.
You're specifically measuring the age of people who found this thread and participated in the poll.
And then there is no certainty about truthfullness of answers.
It is not a balanced representation of the people visiting this forum.


Edit: fixed some quoting confusion :)
I acknowledged this, but I was not referring to people I was measuring. I was referring to theymos's forum dump, which did not seem accurate.
Sorry, i derpt...


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: matthewh3 on September 30, 2012, 10:12:38 PM
I don't buy that that is all the people under 16 on these forums (0.7% is far too low). Maybe younger people tend to be more anonymous?

Could be. I was also surprised about that.

Not only that, some of these younger people tend to say they are older than what they actually are (even though those usually don't get out of the newbie section, and when they get, some deserve being sent back)...
Personally I'll vote in for the "Male, 10–19" category now. It's not like my real date of birth and gender can't be easily found with a internet search... :)

Also I could imagine a lot of the very younger people just follow and read the forum with out actually joining.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: fimp on January 30, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
For users with more than 4 posts who filled out this info in their profiles:

1,660 Male
65 Female
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

This says ratio 2.9:1.

Is that because it includes also members with less than 4 posts?


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: malevolent on January 30, 2013, 10:30:28 PM
For users with more than 4 posts who filled out this info in their profiles:

1,660 Male
65 Female
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

This says ratio 2.9:1.

Is that because it includes also members with less than 4 posts?

It's because a lot of people didn't submit this kind of info - you included :)


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: fimp on January 30, 2013, 10:33:28 PM
For users with more than 4 posts who filled out this info in their profiles:

1,660 Male
65 Female
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

This says ratio 2.9:1.

Is that because it includes also members with less than 4 posts?

It's because a lot of people didn't submit this kind of info - you included :)
What I don't understand is how jgarzik's ratio and the ratio I found on that stats-page can be different when the data source is seemingly the same.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on January 30, 2013, 10:40:44 PM
For users with more than 4 posts who filled out this info in their profiles:

1,660 Male
65 Female
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

This says ratio 2.9:1.

Is that because it includes also members with less than 4 posts?

It's because a lot of people didn't submit this kind of info - you included :)
What I don't understand is how jgarzik's ratio and the ratio I found on that stats-page can be different when the data source is seemingly the same.
Most of the "females" on this board are zero-post spambots, which register with a 1:1 sex ratio. See this page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sort=posts;start=29790) and all subsequent pages for the zero-post spambots.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: fimp on January 30, 2013, 10:51:52 PM
For users with more than 4 posts who filled out this info in their profiles:

1,660 Male
65 Female
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

This says ratio 2.9:1.

Is that because it includes also members with less than 4 posts?

It's because a lot of people didn't submit this kind of info - you included :)
What I don't understand is how jgarzik's ratio and the ratio I found on that stats-page can be different when the data source is seemingly the same.
Most of the "females" on this board are zero-post spambots, which register with a 1:1 sex ratio. See this page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sort=posts;start=29790) and all subsequent pages for the zero-post spambots.
Ok, right, as I guessed.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: freedomno1 on July 26, 2013, 05:43:14 AM
A few months passed reposts to modify the data


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on July 27, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
A few months passed reposts to modify the data

I don't understand what you mean by this.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: malevolent on July 27, 2013, 04:13:54 PM
There's something wrong with the voting results because I can clearly remember 3 days ago there were 7 votes for "Female, 80+".


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on July 27, 2013, 04:24:00 PM
There's something wrong with the voting results because I can clearly remember 3 days ago there were 7 votes for "Female, 80+".

I purged them as it seemed extremely unlikely. No other results were affected.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: btcton on July 27, 2013, 07:39:27 PM
Interesting results. Thought it'd be less male-dominant.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: freedomno1 on July 27, 2013, 07:43:15 PM
A few months passed reposts to modify the data

I don't understand what you mean by this.

Aka I want more people to vote in the darn poll and change the demographic XD
Who knows maybe it changes monthly  8)

That or this poll proves that we are almost guaranteed 4 out of 10 times to have people 20-29 go to the meta page on this forum and vote on polls XD
+- % based on number and in other factors usual error range based on poll sample size

Besides it makes more sense to keep a poll updated than making a new one to get a larger sample over time
Demographics of BitcoinTalk
August 13, 2012, 02:16:05 AM


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: x^2 on July 30, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
We have our first voter who has not reached the age of ten yet. Together with the middle school, high school, and university students in the teens, Bitcoin is turning out to be a very young community.

Yes, the middle school students...


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: nrd525 on July 30, 2013, 09:29:00 PM
The 95% male demographic is unfortunately very typical of a lot of open source projects.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: freedomno1 on July 31, 2013, 12:23:07 AM
The 95% male demographic is unfortunately very typical of a lot of open source projects.

But still on the forum
Time to attract ladies to the meta board XD


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: phillipsjk on November 12, 2013, 06:17:09 AM
Please enter your gender at birth if you cannot classify yourself as male or female.

That will cover almost everyone.

If you can not classify yourself as male or female, you do not know your gender at birth. Perhaps dree12 wants people's assigned gender at birth.

Spam-bots were mentioned: Truly autonomous software agents are likely to be genderless as well (and be in the 0-9 year category)


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: balanghai on November 12, 2013, 06:19:38 AM
woah! 9 years old?


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: SaltySpitoon on November 12, 2013, 06:46:52 AM
The Bees Bros are 14, 13, and 10, and they are one of the more prominent Bitcoin merchants  :)


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: zimmah on January 16, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Clarifications
  • Age is measured from date of birth. All categories are inclusive.
  • Please enter your gender at birth if you cannot classify yourself as male or female.
  • If you have more than one account, please vote with only one account.
  • Please vote as soon as you see this thread, so as to avoid bias in people crossing age boundaries.
Thanks for shunting everyone onto the gender binary. Not everyone identifies as 100% male or female.
I did try to avoid this.
Don't stress about the trolls. If they can't read, it's not your fault.

some people are born bi-gender though.


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: dree12 on April 23, 2014, 11:28:26 PM
Here's a visualization of this data.

https://i.imgur.com/tkTiZM6.png


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: pandacoin on April 23, 2014, 11:33:02 PM
Wow, a lot of 80+ females. :D


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: HarryK on April 24, 2014, 12:02:26 AM
lol sounds fun :D


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: freedomno1 on April 24, 2014, 01:50:17 AM
Wow, a lot of 80+ females. :D

The only category in the data where the women outlive I mean out number the men lol


Title: Re: Demographics of BitcoinTalk
Post by: pekv2 on April 24, 2014, 12:09:20 PM
33 Male here. Gosh I'm getting old.