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I want to ask ??? how to build trust here?
I think the build trust with buy to someone, but I was wrong :( and I get negative feedback from jonald_fyookball (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=261027)

how to remove the negative feedback? I've apologized to him

*sorry for my english

Being a trustworthy person and time are the only way to build trust.

You are now at -6 so you have a bit of an uphill climb, but you can still become trustworthy, and jonald may remove the feedback in the future.

Or you can just create a new account and start again with a clean slate.

sorry, I had intended to be trusted in this account. you can see total in my post :(
I've apologized to him, if this happens I will not be able to be trusted here, i'm using translate google for reply this :'(

Well, you wanted to buy trust...so you got a neg feedback.
Right now you can do 2 things: abaddon this account or simple make more trades buy/sell and it needs time to become trustworthy! You can't just ask to buy trust,the trust system here would then make no sense.

If I was jonald_fyookball, I wouldn't remove it. I doubt he's ever going to remove it. In my eyes, that's one of the worst offenses. Just trade regardless of the trust, it will come naturally. You shouldn't buy feedback, ever.

Do you plan something here with this new acc ?
In his first acc, he asking loan in some place.Now with his alts he try to gain trust with lending people and try to buy + trust.
Smelt fishy here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1001489.msg10904187#msg10904187

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=991660.msg10784333#msg10784333

check his profile Vod, i know you will interested with that.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=456409

I don't see the negative trust ???
 8)

trust buying is not "allowed" and I think you knew that...don't plead ignorance.  You clearly tried to buy trust and even went so far as to ask not to be neg rated if I didn't take your bribe.  so you knew it was wrong.
Your apologies don't mean that it's right for me to remove the feedback letting the community know that you tried to buy trust.

not sure what reason there would be to remove the feedback. 

It matters who you have in your trust list. If you haven't edited your trust list, it will show as default trust, and jonald is on default trust.
(Default trust is a list of people who theymos trusts.)

You can include and exclude people from your list, when a person is excluded, even if that excluded person is on default trust, it doesn't show the trust he gives for you. If you include a person, even if the included person isn't on default trust, the trust he gives shows for you.

You can edit your trust settings here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

But buying accounts with feedback is ok?

Well by the rules of the forum buying accounts with feedback is ok seems. If you use escrow and collateral it shouldnt matter who you make business with tho.

The rules contradict each other. Buying feedback openly is NOT OK but buying accounts with feedback openly is OK.

@OP: Why did you even want to buy trusted feedback? You can trade even without any feedback. You need to EARN trust by having some good deals/trades with other members.

It's not against the forum rules to buy feedback (and it would be hard to enforce unless in blatant cases such as this one), but obviously most people see it as untrustworthy behaviour and leave appropriate feedback. Whether people leave negative for trusted bought accounts is up to them (and people used to do this for any known bought accounts but the practice has largely stopped).

your account is still new, just make another one, it's not worth it to build trust for this in this case, also i doubt that neg trust will be removed

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Does this mean you have other accounts where you intended to be not trustworthy?

Think you're reading into something from someone with not great English

But trust can be earned from a long history of successful trades and positive activity.

When did I say buying accounts with feedback is okay? I'm against accounts selling with positive feedback.

He was probably just speaking in general.