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Title: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: aq on August 13, 2012, 08:05:10 PM
Someone mentioned that there is a Bryan Micon poker system.
So I googled and clicked on www.micon secrets.com  (remove the space)
As soon as it opened, his website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
Luckily for me, aviria catched it. Avira description about the backdoor: http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en (http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en)
I confronted Micon with this and, of course, he just claims that it is not his site.
Maybe I am wrong but I don't think that there are that many Bryan Micons out there that try to sell some poker system.


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on August 13, 2012, 08:59:10 PM
Yep, Micon's an extremely suspect individual.   


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: Micon on August 13, 2012, 09:01:56 PM
Someone mentioned that there is a Bryan Micon poker system.
So I googled and clicked on www.micon secrets.com  (remove the space)
As soon as it opened, his website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
Luckily for me, aviria catched it. Avira description about the backdoor: http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en (http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en)
I confronted Micon with this and, of course, he just claims that it is not his site.
Maybe I am wrong but I don't think that there are that many Bryan Micons out there that try to sell some poker system.

I was paid in 2007 to make a training video for a guy to market, he did / I did and he still does. 

I do not operate that site, but did accept payment and did list everything I did to beat poker in 2007.  (obviously thinking in the game has drastically changed) but that system is still sold on that site by a guy that paid me to hear my thoughts on poker.

you can check the domain / IP of the host / it's not on any of my servers.

thanks for your interest in Bryan Micon. 


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: Micon on August 13, 2012, 09:02:35 PM
Yep, Micon's an extremely suspect individual.   

not like stand up Ponzi supporters AG + RoloTonyBrownTown, who demands respect around these parts


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on August 13, 2012, 09:05:21 PM
Yep, Micon's an extremely suspect individual.   

not like stand up Ponzi supporters AG + RoloTonyBrownTown, who demands respect around these parts

How about you actually prove your accusations about all these ponzi operations.   Perhaps then you wont be such a joke, but until then that's exactly what you are.

Sad little man.


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: aq on August 13, 2012, 09:15:12 PM
Someone mentioned that there is a Bryan Micon poker system.
So I googled and clicked on www.micon secrets.com  (remove the space)
As soon as it opened, his website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
Luckily for me, aviria catched it. Avira description about the backdoor: http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en (http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en)
I confronted Micon with this and, of course, he just claims that it is not his site.
Maybe I am wrong but I don't think that there are that many Bryan Micons out there that try to sell some poker system.

I was paid in 2007 to make a training video for a guy to market, he did / I did and he still does. 

I do not operate that site, but did accept payment and did list everything I did to beat poker in 2007.  (obviously thinking in the game has drastically changed) but that system is still sold on that site by a guy that paid me to hear my thoughts on poker.

you can check the domain / IP of the host / it's not on any of my servers.

thanks for your interest in Bryan Micon. 
So it is "only" your accomplice, that is trying to infect the computers of innocent users?
Someone should inform the responsible authority about this.


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: cryptoanarchist on August 13, 2012, 10:52:26 PM
Someone mentioned that there is a Bryan Micon poker system.
So I googled and clicked on www.micon secrets.com  (remove the space)
As soon as it opened, his website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
Luckily for me, aviria catched it. Avira description about the backdoor: http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en (http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en)
I confronted Micon with this and, of course, he just claims that it is not his site.
Maybe I am wrong but I don't think that there are that many Bryan Micons out there that try to sell some poker system.

I was paid in 2007 to make a training video for a guy to market, he did / I did and he still does. 

I do not operate that site, but did accept payment and did list everything I did to beat poker in 2007.  (obviously thinking in the game has drastically changed) but that system is still sold on that site by a guy that paid me to hear my thoughts on poker.

you can check the domain / IP of the host / it's not on any of my servers.

thanks for your interest in Bryan Micon. 
So it is "only" your accomplice, that is trying to infect the computers of innocent users?
Someone should inform the responsible authority about this.

that's a douchebag statement. Creating content for someone does not make them your "accomplice".


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: aq on August 13, 2012, 11:03:03 PM
Someone mentioned that there is a Bryan Micon poker system.
So I googled and clicked on www.micon secrets.com  (remove the space)
As soon as it opened, his website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
Luckily for me, aviria catched it. Avira description about the backdoor: http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en (http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en)
I confronted Micon with this and, of course, he just claims that it is not his site.
Maybe I am wrong but I don't think that there are that many Bryan Micons out there that try to sell some poker system.

I was paid in 2007 to make a training video for a guy to market, he did / I did and he still does. 

I do not operate that site, but did accept payment and did list everything I did to beat poker in 2007.  (obviously thinking in the game has drastically changed) but that system is still sold on that site by a guy that paid me to hear my thoughts on poker.

you can check the domain / IP of the host / it's not on any of my servers.

thanks for your interest in Bryan Micon. 
So it is "only" your accomplice, that is trying to infect the computers of innocent users?
Someone should inform the responsible authority about this.

that's a douchebag statement. Creating content for someone does not make them your "accomplice".
Of course not, hence the name www.miconsecrets.com ::)
But I admit that it is possible that Micon is just too stupid to understand that helping someone to setup a site that installs some trojan is a bad thing to do. See, trojans are no ponzi, so I guess it is okay for him.
So he is either a complete douchebag or a criminal, most probably both.


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: Shadow383 on August 14, 2012, 05:54:11 AM
Yep, Micon's an extremely suspect individual.   

not like stand up Ponzi supporters AG + RoloTonyBrownTown, who demands respect around these parts

How about you actually prove your accusations about all these ponzi operations.   Perhaps then you wont be such a joke, but until then that's exactly what you are.

Sad little man.

There has never been a ponzi scheme that it was possible to "prove" was a ponzi without looking at its books. Not even Charles Ponzi's original scheme.

However, BS&T displays a vast number of red flags. Personally I'm of the opinion that if you're going to loan someone several million dollars (as the members of the forum effectively have) then you should have substantial evidence of their ability to pay it back...


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on August 14, 2012, 06:00:36 AM
Well,  as always, what a forum member chooses to do with their own money is none of anyone else's concern.   


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: aq on August 14, 2012, 10:06:25 AM
However, BS&T displays a vast number of red flags. Personally I'm of the opinion that if you're going to loan someone several million dollars (as the members of the forum effectively have) then you should have substantial evidence of their ability to pay it back...
Is this trojan an attempt of Micon to find out what pirate does? Maybe he hopes that he can infect pirates computer that way.
Still, this is criminal behavior, and should be prosecuted.


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: Shadow383 on August 14, 2012, 12:03:07 PM
However, BS&T displays a vast number of red flags. Personally I'm of the opinion that if you're going to loan someone several million dollars (as the members of the forum effectively have) then you should have substantial evidence of their ability to pay it back...
Is this trojan an attempt of Micon to find out what pirate does? Maybe he hopes that he can infect pirates computer that way.
Still, this is criminal behavior, and should be prosecuted.
If it's the same Micon, then sure.
For moment, can't we just report it to the host?
Regardless, the trojan has no bearing on the red flags that make BS&T look like a likely ponzi op.


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: aq on August 14, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
However, BS&T displays a vast number of red flags. Personally I'm of the opinion that if you're going to loan someone several million dollars (as the members of the forum effectively have) then you should have substantial evidence of their ability to pay it back...
Is this trojan an attempt of Micon to find out what pirate does? Maybe he hopes that he can infect pirates computer that way.
Still, this is criminal behavior, and should be prosecuted.
If it's the same Micon, then sure.
For moment, can't we just report it to the host?
According to Micon himself and the actual pictures of him on the web site, yes it is the same Micon.
Feel free to report it here: http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx (http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx)

Regardless, the trojan has no bearing on the red flags that make BS&T look like a likely ponzi op.
Maybe ppl should stop judging by the look, because otherwise Micon would be guilty for almost everything ;)


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: Vandroiy on August 14, 2012, 01:17:45 PM
Well,  as always, what a forum member chooses to do with their own money is none of anyone else's concern.  

There's a difference between that and doing PR for something of the kind.

This thread is the same thing as your signature: trying to discredit critics by any means necessary. He has a website at bryanmicon.com, but "at his web site" refers to miconsecrets.com? Also, even if it were his, who ever spreads malware on their own server? It's usually just been infected.

Just wait what people come up with next. Maybe we'll get child porn "evidence" bounties too, when Goat isn't busy anymore.



But the whole method is vain. Even if a child-murdering scammer Nazi posts a valid argument, it's still a valid argument. To someone who judges books by their cover, everyone involved in this discussion looks dubious, and that's okay for the time being. Micon isn't saying "Trust me, I have the better investment." He's saying "Don't trust people too easily."


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: aq on August 14, 2012, 01:23:47 PM
But the whole method is vain. Even if a child-murdering scammer Nazi posts a valid argument, it's still a valid argument. To someone who judges books by their cover, everyone involved in this discussion looks dubious, and that's okay for the time being. Micon isn't saying "Trust me, I have the better investment." He's saying "don't trust people too easily."
Micon has no clue about the BS&T business, so he "judges books by their cover" and claims, trust me, I know it is a ponzi. Actually, you do exactly the same.
Anyway, if you trust him so much, install yourself his trojan/backdoor by visiting his site. I am sure Micon has only good intentions with your computer :-\


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: drakahn on August 14, 2012, 01:40:16 PM
Well,  as always, what a forum member chooses to do with their own money is none of anyone else's concern.   

There's a difference between that and doing PR for something of the kind.

This thread is the same thing as your signature: trying to discredit critics by any means necessary. He has a website at bryanmicon.com, but "at his web site" refers to miconsecrets.com? Also, even if it were his, who ever spreads malware on their own server? It's usually just been infected.

Just wait what people come up with next. Maybe we'll get child porn "evidence" bounties too, when Goat isn't busy anymore.



But the whole method is vain. Even if a child-murdering scammer Nazi posts a valid argument, it's still a valid argument. To someone who judges books by their cover, everyone involved in this discussion looks dubious, and that's okay for the time being. Micon isn't saying "Trust me, I have the better investment." He's saying "Don't trust people too easily."
Except there have been no valid arguments... just "I don't know so ponzi"


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 14, 2012, 04:24:48 PM
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?796-Top-10-Reasons-Why-Bryan-Micon-is-Piece-of-Shit-Scumbag


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on August 14, 2012, 09:37:14 PM
Well,  as always, what a forum member chooses to do with their own money is none of anyone else's concern.  

There's a difference between that and doing PR for something of the kind.

This thread is the same thing as your signature: trying to discredit critics by any means necessary. He has a website at bryanmicon.com, but "at his web site" refers to miconsecrets.com? Also, even if it were his, who ever spreads malware on their own server? It's usually just been infected.

You won't find me doing any PR for BTS&T because, like you, I have no idea what Pirate is doing.  The difference between us is that for me, uncertainty does not automatically equal ponzi.

I have money invested and am comfortable with that amount.  I enjoy my weekly interest like everyone else, but I won't tell someone that they should definitely join BTS&T as that's their own choice.  Something you lot don't comprehend.

As for my signature, that's targeted at you personally, and every word of it is true.

Now, this thread is not about you, or me, or BTS&T.  It's about Micon having a provably bad reputation on the internet, and a site with his name and photo plastered all over it trying to install backdoors.


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: grue on August 15, 2012, 02:39:20 AM
I call bullshit on your accusation. Analysis with a virtual machine (http://anubis.iseclab.org/?action=result&task_id=19c3c9370002ab3d4fd1e66a13922dd44&format=html) shows that there are no drivebys at that site. It's most likely a false positive, which avira is well known for. next time you accuse someone of something this serious, maybe you should probably confirm it before making false accusations.


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: Clipse on August 15, 2012, 02:18:20 PM
I call bullshit on your accusation. Analysis with a virtual machine (http://anubis.iseclab.org/?action=result&task_id=19c3c9370002ab3d4fd1e66a13922dd44&format=html) shows that there are no drivebys at that site. It's most likely a false positive, which avira is well known for. next time you accuse someone of something this serious, maybe you should probably confirm it before making false accusations.

Can you be 100% certain Bryan didnt get rid of it after being reported here ?


Title: Re: Bryan Micon tries to infect with a backdoor at his web site
Post by: grue on August 15, 2012, 10:06:34 PM
I call bullshit on your accusation. Analysis with a virtual machine (http://anubis.iseclab.org/?action=result&task_id=19c3c9370002ab3d4fd1e66a13922dd44&format=html) shows that there are no drivebys at that site. It's most likely a false positive, which avira is well known for. next time you accuse someone of something this serious, maybe you should probably confirm it before making false accusations.

Can you be 100% certain Bryan didnt get rid of it after being reported here ?
are you trying to get me to prove a negative? (that the site never had a virus?)