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Title: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: w128 on May 26, 2011, 08:22:03 PM
For me, the interest in technology was already as it's what I do for a living. Bitcoin has certainly lead me to learn more about economics and convinced me to try my hand at investing beyond standard retirement contributions.

How about you?


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: FreeMoney on May 26, 2011, 10:23:12 PM
For me, the interest in technology was already as it's what I do for a living. Bitcoin has certainly lead me to learn more about economics and convinced me to try my hand at investing beyond standard retirement contributions.

How about you?

I was roughly the opposite. Desperately looking for a good money. Learned some tech from Bitcoin because I recognized it was good money.


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: stic.man on May 26, 2011, 11:41:34 PM
Yes and yes


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: w128 on May 26, 2011, 11:44:52 PM
For me, the interest in technology was already as it's what I do for a living. Bitcoin has certainly lead me to learn more about economics and convinced me to try my hand at investing beyond standard retirement contributions.

How about you?

I was roughly the opposite. Desperately looking for a good money. Learned some tech from Bitcoin because I recognized it was good money.

I'm very surprised by that, particularly since I get the impression that you've been involved for quite some time.

How did you come to learn of bitcoin?


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: enmaku on May 26, 2011, 11:48:15 PM
I was already extremely involved in technology and moderately involved in economics. I've always had an interest in the sciences, so to the extent that economics can be spoken of scientifically, I've been interested - the parts that can better be described as waving a dead chicken over your portfolio and hoping for profits... not so much.

What bitcoin HAS done for me is given me the economic incentive to start building the GPU cluster I've been wanting for a while. I figure if bitcoin goes well forever, I'll just keep on mining. If it ends up crashing, it will at least have paid for my shiny new cluster and I'll start building rainbow tables  8)


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: FreeMoney on May 26, 2011, 11:52:03 PM
For me, the interest in technology was already as it's what I do for a living. Bitcoin has certainly lead me to learn more about economics and convinced me to try my hand at investing beyond standard retirement contributions.

How about you?

I was roughly the opposite. Desperately looking for a good money. Learned some tech from Bitcoin because I recognized it was good money.

I'm very surprised by that, particularly since I get the impression that you've been involved for quite some time.

How did you come to learn of bitcoin?

Someone linked me to the slashdot in July. I read the white paper and forum and immediately new it was the real deal for money.

If there is a fatal bug in this implementation I'm going to be pissed off :-)


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: kiba on May 26, 2011, 11:54:00 PM
I love economics and technologies...but I become obsessed...with bitcoin.

I end up creating a publication called http://bitcoinweekly.com/


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: w128 on May 27, 2011, 12:00:19 AM
For me, the interest in technology was already as it's what I do for a living. Bitcoin has certainly lead me to learn more about economics and convinced me to try my hand at investing beyond standard retirement contributions.

How about you?

I was roughly the opposite. Desperately looking for a good money. Learned some tech from Bitcoin because I recognized it was good money.

I'm very surprised by that, particularly since I get the impression that you've been involved for quite some time.

How did you come to learn of bitcoin?

Someone linked me to the slashdot in July. I read the white paper and forum and immediately new it was the real deal for money.

If there is a fatal bug in this implementation I'm going to be pissed off :-)

This is the single time in the 5 or 6 years since I quit frequenting Slashdot that I'm actually bothered to have stopped.


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: duffmanhb on May 27, 2011, 12:10:30 AM
I'm actually kind of bummed. When I first got into BTC over a year or two ago, I had well over 100 coins. It was at a time when the coins had a value of a fraction of a cent. Since then things have really taken off, and you can buy more than just books with bitcoins, but they have actual value (primarily for people trying to money launder, but that's a whole other story).

But now, it is extremely hard to mine, and the pools just don't come close to paying out like they used to. I feel like just two weeks ago was the last time BTC was actually profitable, and it is just compounding to be more and more difficult to get the sweet sweet sticky coin. Sigh, how I only wish I didn't procrastinate on getting back on this train and I could have actually made a decent profit and got tons of 5830s to boot.


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: kiba on May 27, 2011, 12:18:57 AM
I'm actually kind of bummed. When I first got into BTC over a year or two ago, I had well over 100 coins. It was at a time when the coins had a value of a fraction of a cent. Since then things have really taken off, and you can buy more than just books with bitcoins, but they have actual value (primarily for people trying to money launder, but that's a whole other story).

But now, it is extremely hard to mine, and the pools just don't come close to paying out like they used to. I feel like just two weeks ago was the last time BTC was actually profitable, and it is just compounding to be more and more difficult to get the sweet sweet sticky coin. Sigh, how I only wish I didn't procrastinate on getting back on this train and I could have actually made a decent profit and got tons of 5830s to boot.

You could alway write for http://www.bitcoinweekly.com/pages/submission but then it will be actual hard work.


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: zef on May 27, 2011, 03:03:23 AM
I've been obsessed with economics for years now, but I am formally trained in computer science.  I am sad for only learning about bitcoins within the last couple weeks.  I believe the first article i read just a couple weeks ago was more than a few months old. They talked about the concept and how bitcoins were just a few cents.  Being an avid hobby economist as well as computer programmer, I immediately thought WOW, this is incredible technology, economically sound, and they are so cheap, I need to go buy them NOW.  Then I found out the actual market price was like 7 bucks a coin and thought "typical, i found out too late".   


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: billyjoeallen on May 27, 2011, 03:50:06 AM
I have a little interest in tech, learning some BASIC in JR HIgh, getting A+ certified in the dot.com days, but really not a techie. I'm a firefighter for chrissake.  My interest is in economics, specifically Austrian School. I read a blog post months ago from Mencius Moldbug (before Satoshi, he was the shadowiest nom de keyboard I knew of) on Unqualified Reservations suggesting it would be a good idea to get a few hunerd-ya know-just in case it took off. If I had done that, I would have saved thousands, but I am still totally jazzed. This currency has no natural predators. it can't be stopped. the upper limit is billions$ per bitcoin Yes, I know that sounds hyperbolic, but think about it: if even one percent of black/gray market activity is eventually transacted in bitcoin, one percent of savings (to hedge against inflation) is stored it bitcoin, one percent of internet transaction (because of low transaction costs) were in bit-coin- it adds up to trillions.
Take one trillion, divide by 21,000,000 and you get a derived value of ~$47/BTC

$47/BTC

and I honestly think that's being conservative. many Bitcoins have been lost and more will be lost in the future.  The analogy is buying land with a constant supply and an exponentially growing population- supply and demand make this a long-term sure bet. Except this land has no property tax, no building restrictions, no capital gains tax, and is as liquid as a penny stock. It is ideal as both a store of value and a unit of account- fungibility, baby. I'm not speculating- I'm buying and holding. This could possibly be an intergenerational fortune, even after getting in so late. The only thing we have to worry about is the volatility that comes with people buying on margin. Leverage is one of the things killing the dollar system. 


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: FreeMoney on May 27, 2011, 03:58:31 AM

 My interest is in economics, specifically Austrian School. I read a blog post months ago from Mencius Moldbug (before Satoshi, he was the shadowiest nom de keyboard I knew of) on Unqualified Reservations suggesting it would be a good idea to get a few hunerd-ya know-just in case it took off. 
Take one trillion, divide by 21,000,000 and you get a derived value of ~$47/BTC

$47/BTC
 

Is that Austrian division?  ;)


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: billyjoeallen on May 27, 2011, 04:09:20 AM

 My interest is in economics, specifically Austrian School. I read a blog post months ago from Mencius Moldbug (before Satoshi, he was the shadowiest nom de keyboard I knew of) on Unqualified Reservations suggesting it would be a good idea to get a few hunerd-ya know-just in case it took off. 
Take one trillion, divide by 21,000,000 and you get a derived value of ~$47/BTC

$47/BTC
 

Is that Austrian division?  ;)

DOH! (did I mention I'm a firefighter?)


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: N12 on May 27, 2011, 04:11:07 AM
If we assume Bitcoin is the best form of money available in this world, even surpassing Gold, then it will naturally attract the majority of all humankind’s wealth, as it will be the best store of value ever.

If we further assume that 1) technological advancements and 2) collective prosperity and competition, both brought by Bitcoin will make us conquer the universe and achieve human immortality,

We come to the conclusion, that one Bitcoin will buy a

a) galaxy

b) customized alternate virtual universe

c) artificially created and genetically, based on your needs, modified, fleshly girlfriend

See you on Mars in a few years, guys.


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: bcpokey on May 27, 2011, 04:21:28 AM
If we assume Bitcoin is the best form of money available in this world, even surpassing Gold, then it will naturally attract the majority of all humankind’s wealth, as it will be the best store of value ever.

If we further assume that 1) technological advancements and 2) collective prosperity and competition, both brought by Bitcoin will make us conquer the universe and achieve human immortality,

We come to the conclusion, that one Bitcoin will buy a

a) galaxy

b) customized alternate virtual universe

c) artificially created and genetically, based on your needs, modified, fleshly girlfriend

See you on Mars in a few years, guys.

All positive hopes. Ideas which were somewhat dashed for me by this comic http://xkcd.com/893/ :(


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: billyjoeallen on May 27, 2011, 04:43:36 AM
If we assume Bitcoin is the best form of money available in this world, even surpassing Gold, then it will naturally attract the majority of all humankind’s wealth, as it will be the best store of value ever.

If we further assume that 1) technological advancements and 2) collective prosperity and competition, both brought by Bitcoin will make us conquer the universe and achieve human immortality,

We come to the conclusion, that one Bitcoin will buy a

a) galaxy

b) customized alternate virtual universe

c) artificially created and genetically, based on your needs, modified, fleshly girlfriend

See you on Mars in a few years, guys.

The difference between bitcoin and a pyramid-scheme is the utility of bitcoin for black/gray market transactions, including donations to evil organizations like wikileaks, Al Qaida or the Justin Bieber fan club. even at a risk of a 50% devaluation, I'd use bitcoin as a way of hiding my wealth from my ex-wife.


Title: Re: Has bitcoin spurred your interest in technology/economics?
Post by: wumpus on May 27, 2011, 05:21:10 AM
I've been interested in technology and economics for a long time, and also in cryptocurrency. It's really exciting to see one finally take off.

Now the networked age is really beginning :)