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Bitcoin => Mining speculation => Topic started by: Subo1977 on August 14, 2012, 02:32:44 PM



Title: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: Subo1977 on August 14, 2012, 02:32:44 PM
What do you think about USD/BTC Price after  Bfl asic arrive in the Wild ?


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: purplesquid on August 14, 2012, 04:32:39 PM
Blocks found per day = approx constant @ 145ish, even with ASIC, difficulty adjusts to make this the case over time.

Coins per block is halving around the same time as ASIC release. Halving the total bitcoins mined per day/week/year.

USD/BTC is a function of perceived/real market value and scarcity independant of network hashrate.

Therefore, price valuation in USD is not directly correlated with ASIC technology.


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 14, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
What do you think about USD/BTC Price after  Bfl asic arrive in the Wild ?

Bitcoins are produced at the rate of 7,200 BTC per day, regardless of how much hashing power there is. (Well, after around December 5, it will be 3,600 per day).

The only influence on the price will probably be from mining operators (and potential mining operators) that had held off waiting to see that there really will be a BFL ASIC produced, then using their bitcoins to place orders, and thus those bitcoins flooding the market when converted by BFL back to dollars.


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: dlasher on August 15, 2012, 05:20:01 AM

Is there a good formula (the one on the wiki confuses me) that say "At a given overall Network Hash rate, what should the difficulty be?"



Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: Epoch on August 15, 2012, 05:35:27 AM
Is there a good formula (the one on the wiki confuses me) that say "At a given overall Network Hash rate, what should the difficulty be?"

difficulty = 600 / (2^32 / NetworkHashRate)
or
difficulty ~= NetworkHashRate * 1.4E-07

The term '2^32/NetworkHashRate' is the expected number of seconds to find a 1-difficulty block. The bitcoin protocol stipulates that a block should be found, on average, every 600 seconds. So just take 600 seconds and divide by that number, and you'll have your required difficulty.

For example, say the overall network hashrate is 15 terahash per second. So our expected difficulty would be:

difficulty ~= 15,000,000,000,000 * 1.4E-07
difficulty = 2,100,000

And that is pretty much where we are today.


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: dlasher on August 15, 2012, 10:35:53 PM
For example, say the overall network hashrate is 15 terahash per second. So our expected difficulty would be:

difficulty ~= 15,000,000,000,000 * 1.4E-07
difficulty = 2,100,000

Or 15 * 14E4 = 2,100,000

Thank you.


 


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: 420 on August 18, 2012, 06:50:17 AM
how much money would government have to throw to hash bitcoins making it unprofitable for everyone? just a million?


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: BR0KK on August 19, 2012, 10:08:15 PM
About 6-8 Million, thats what i read :) (could definitely be wrong on this number!)


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: Gabi on August 19, 2012, 10:25:44 PM
6-8 million is for a 51% attack, wich would fuck bitcoin


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: BR0KK on August 19, 2012, 10:29:37 PM
jes i remember that :)

but how do u stop it ? after the gov does this we can just do BTC allover again .... :P


Title: Re: Bfl asic Price BTC/USD
Post by: 420 on August 19, 2012, 11:11:27 PM
Insert Satoshi Meme

Why u no make more bitcoins

government takeover eazy