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Title: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: Bitware on August 14, 2012, 03:37:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec61iZh47_g


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: ShireSilver on August 14, 2012, 04:04:53 PM
I was there for the closing arguments.

BTW, he's originally from Wi, but lives in NH these days.


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: myrkul on August 14, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
Free Ademo!

Seriously, this is stupid. Ademo is a political prisoner, plain and simple.


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: Bitware on August 15, 2012, 09:53:02 AM
Free Ademo!

Seriously, this is stupid. Ademo is a political prisoner, plain and simple.

He was found guilty by a jury of his peers. The jury had every opportunity to free this man. The judge gave him a boatload of leeway with the jury. The judge's instrucctions given to the jury I think were the problem. The jury was told to judge the law and the evidence and to ignore Ademo's opinions. The jury listened to the judge and the dictrict attorney. The problem always has been... and remains... We The People. Society not only approves, but went out of its way to tell the rest of us that we may not hold our public servants accountable by secretly recording telephone calls with them. It simply does not matter what rights we think we have when there are systems, enforcers, and supporters in place that are convinced that forcing their will on the rest of us saves lives and keeps their kids safe. More focus needs to be placed on educating the public rather than open dissident and activism, because average America sees this activism and dissent but doesnt understand it, then are propagandized and manipulated into thinking they are criminals, traitors, radicals, or nutbags.


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: myrkul on August 15, 2012, 09:57:05 AM
Free Ademo!

Seriously, this is stupid. Ademo is a political prisoner, plain and simple.

He was found guilty by a jury of his peers. The jury had every opportunity to free this man. The judge gave him a boatload of leeway with the jury. The judge's instructions given to the jury I think were the problem. The jury was told to judge the law and the evidence and to ignore Ademo's opinions. The jury listened to the judge and the district attorney. The problem always has been... and remains... We The People. Society not only approves, but went out of its way to tell the rest of us that we may not hold our public servants accountable by secretly recording telephone calls with them. It simply does not matter what rights we think we have when there are systems, enforcers, and supporters in place that are convinced that forcing their will on the rest of us saves lives and keeps their kids safe. More focus needs to be placed on educating the public rather than open dissident and activism, because average America sees this activism and dissent but doesn't understand it, then are propagandized and manipulated into thinking they are criminals, traitors, radicals, or nutbags.


All too accurate.  :(
He even informed them of jury nullification.
http://silverunderground.com/2012/08/rebel-of-the-week-ademo-freeman-convicted-on-three-counts-of-journalism/
(I swear those guys don't pay me, they're just really on point)


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: compro01 on August 16, 2012, 02:21:12 PM
Welcome to the lovely concept of the all-party-consent state.

California
Connecticut
Florida
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Montana
Nevada
New Hampshire
Pennsylvania
Washington



Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: Bitware on August 25, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
Welcome to the lovely concept of the all-party-consent state.

California
Connecticut
Florida
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Montana
Nevada
New Hampshire
Pennsylvania
Washington



Consent is should be irrelevant whenever public funds are concerned. Especially when those people are public servants working directly for the people.

UPDATE - Ademo states he is going to be appealing the verdict. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4x04uFB9qo&feature=plcp)

This need to go to the supreme court if necessary.



Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: Herodes on August 25, 2012, 03:36:16 PM
Anyone has a summary of this ?

What did he do exactly, and how was the sentence ?


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: ShireSilver on August 25, 2012, 03:57:29 PM
Anyone has a summary of this ?

What did he do exactly, and how was the sentence ?

What he did was act like a reporter. He asked probing and pertinent questions of public servants. They didn't like that. He was sentenced to some jail time, although no where near as much as he could have gotten.

http://www.copblock.org/tag/ademo-freeman/ has a history of it all. Good organization too, although I think the name is a bit more antagonistic than it should be.


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: fcmatt on August 25, 2012, 04:12:55 PM
So all he had to do was start each convo saying, do you agree if i record this convo? Yes or no? And he would have been all set?


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: Coincomm on August 25, 2012, 04:17:28 PM
So all he had to do was start each convo saying, do you agree if i record this convo? Yes or no? And he would have been all set?
They wouldn't speak then.

Public Officials have no right to privacy while serving the public and using its resources.


Title: Re: Massachusetts man found guilty of recording calls to public servants
Post by: Bitware on August 25, 2012, 06:29:50 PM
Reminds me of the people who are often imprisoned by judges for contempt because they didnt pay a civil judgement as the judge ordered or as quickly as the judge ordered. Bringing back debtors prisons the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution outlawed... one peasant as a time.