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Title: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: bensam12345 on March 30, 2015, 04:00:36 PM
I started to just follow one of the bitcoin address and the flow of btc from a given bitcoin address claimed to have owned by Satoshi by one of forum members

From this image:
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiDMNXFo.png&t=541&c=XEIGWtzYDM2MOQ

Where are addresses of this very large cold wallets?
One of the coins went to each of these addresses:
  • 1Kf33BbrJDuAVC91w9ACtRgf6KJrLWSkHV
  • 1GEPJiMSDvXHU83GhHHxrVmWL7tt7HPVyD

The first ever bitcoins (from ninth block) https://blockchain.info/tx/0437cd7f8525ceed2324359c2d0ba26006d92d856a9c20fa0241106ee5a597c9

Found that last year a transaction is made https://blockchain.info/address/1JfTwtVUtrnqcicAefCo3f9nLTKYy7wxhV , so the question is , is still Satoshi spending small amount of Bitcoins  ???


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: DLCseller on March 30, 2015, 04:05:11 PM
What do you think he spend his bitcoins on? A vendetta mask for anonymity? lol just kidding


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: bensam12345 on March 30, 2015, 04:20:39 PM
LOL, Both of the network propagation data in blockchain.info of the first bitcoin created and the new spend ones show they orginate near Africa, so is Satoshi near Africa? LOL  ;D

Edit: He may not be in Africa lol, So it is just the location of node that relayed the transaction, if unknown it shows this location  as default.


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 30, 2015, 04:29:34 PM
LOL, Both of the network propagation data in blockchain.info of the first bitcoin created and the new spend ones show they orginate near Africa, so is Satoshi near Africa? LOL  ;D

are you stupid or something? this (https://blockchain.info/tx/8c031ce408a74f8663ff58f30dc822a1fc25b00a24771deda1c6e4b41bae0e3e) is my transaction from last week, so am I near africa too?

do some research before you go around and speculate, dude. hint: look at the relayed IP. move your pointer tothe question mark icon


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: HI-TEC99 on March 30, 2015, 04:56:19 PM
Why would Satoshi not still spending his bitcoins? He might still be mining them today. Home based miners mining in 2013 could earn quite a lot doing it. Any coins he mined then would be indistinguishable from other miners coins. He could spend them without anyone knowing he is Satoshi.


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: vlad12 on March 30, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
I don't see a link between any of these transaction and Satoshi's old known wallets.


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: bensam12345 on March 30, 2015, 05:11:32 PM
LOL, Both of the network propagation data in blockchain.info of the first bitcoin created and the new spend ones show they orginate near Africa, so is Satoshi near Africa? LOL  ;D

are you stupid or something? this (https://blockchain.info/tx/8c031ce408a74f8663ff58f30dc822a1fc25b00a24771deda1c6e4b41bae0e3e) is my transaction from last week, so am I near africa too?

do some research before you go around and speculate, dude. hint: look at the relayed IP. move your pointer tothe question mark icon

Yeah, they can be easily manipulated with VPN and such, i am just curious, no need to be harsh on anyone, we all learn, "Known is a drop, unknown is an ocean.".  :D


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: unamis76 on March 30, 2015, 05:18:59 PM
Who said Satoshi is spending his coins? Last time I checked, his addresses were intact AND we don't even know if they're Satoshi's addresses. We don't even know if Satoshi has his private keys... (but if I had to bet, I would say he knows perfectly well were his keys are)


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: TheGr33k on March 30, 2015, 05:36:54 PM
Im confused how is this wallet related to satoshi? It seems like the first bitcoins received where in 2013. Personally i would clean my coins if O was under the watchful eye of the world


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: odolvlobo on March 30, 2015, 05:51:26 PM
I started to just follow one of the bitcoin address and the flow of btc from a given bitcoin address claimed to have owned by Satoshi by one of forum members

The first ever bitcoins  https://blockchain.info/tx/0437cd7f8525ceed2324359c2d0ba26006d92d856a9c20fa0241106ee5a597c9

Found that last year a transaction is made https://blockchain.info/address/1JfTwtVUtrnqcicAefCo3f9nLTKYy7wxhV , so the question is , is still Satoshi spending small amount of Bitcoins  ???

Perhaps you could go into more detail. The bitcoins from that transactions are from block 9, so they are technically not the first bitcoins, and you failed to state the significance of the address 1JfTwt...


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: bensam12345 on March 30, 2015, 05:58:02 PM
I started to just follow one of the bitcoin address and the flow of btc from a given bitcoin address claimed to have owned by Satoshi by one of forum members

The first ever bitcoins  https://blockchain.info/tx/0437cd7f8525ceed2324359c2d0ba26006d92d856a9c20fa0241106ee5a597c9

Found that last year a transaction is made https://blockchain.info/address/1JfTwtVUtrnqcicAefCo3f9nLTKYy7wxhV , so the question is , is still Satoshi spending small amount of Bitcoins  ???

Perhaps you could go into more detail. The bitcoins from that transactions are from block 9, so they are technically not the first bitcoins, and you failed to state the significance of the address 1JfTwt...


Ok, thanks, this is where I got the address from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=548508.msg7646818#msg7646818

I am just curious, can you give me the first generated bitcoin address?


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 30, 2015, 06:00:45 PM
I started to just follow one of the bitcoin address and the flow of btc from a given bitcoin address claimed to have owned by Satoshi by one of forum members

The first ever bitcoins  https://blockchain.info/tx/0437cd7f8525ceed2324359c2d0ba26006d92d856a9c20fa0241106ee5a597c9

Found that last year a transaction is made https://blockchain.info/address/1JfTwtVUtrnqcicAefCo3f9nLTKYy7wxhV , so the question is , is still Satoshi spending small amount of Bitcoins  ???

Perhaps you could go into more detail. The bitcoins from that transactions are from block 9, so they are technically not the first bitcoins, and you failed to state the significance of the address 1JfTwt...


Ok, thanks, this is where I got the address from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=548508.msg7646818#msg7646818

I am just curious, can you give me the first generated bitcoin address?

here it is https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa (https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa)
First Tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/4a5e1e4baab89f3a32518a88c31bc87f618f76673e2cc77ab2127b7afdeda33b (https://blockchain.info/tx/4a5e1e4baab89f3a32518a88c31bc87f618f76673e2cc77ab2127b7afdeda33b)

those coins can't be spent, by the way
and that address might not actually be the first address. I don't think there's a way to find the first ever bitcoin address


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: oblivi on March 30, 2015, 06:02:20 PM
I started to just follow one of the bitcoin address and the flow of btc from a given bitcoin address claimed to have owned by Satoshi by one of forum members

From this image:
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiDMNXFo.png&t=541&c=XEIGWtzYDM2MOQ

Where are addresses of this very large cold wallets?
One of the coins went to each of these addresses:
  • 1Kf33BbrJDuAVC91w9ACtRgf6KJrLWSkHV
  • 1GEPJiMSDvXHU83GhHHxrVmWL7tt7HPVyD

The first ever bitcoins  https://blockchain.info/tx/0437cd7f8525ceed2324359c2d0ba26006d92d856a9c20fa0241106ee5a597c9

Found that last year a transaction is made https://blockchain.info/address/1JfTwtVUtrnqcicAefCo3f9nLTKYy7wxhV , so the question is , is still Satoshi spending small amount of Bitcoins  ???

Well considering he created the whole thing it wouldn't be surprising that he makes a daily use of it no?


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: odolvlobo on March 30, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
LOL, Both of the network propagation data in blockchain.info of the first bitcoin created and the new spend ones show they orginate near Africa, so is Satoshi near Africa? LOL  ;D

are you stupid or something? this (https://blockchain.info/tx/8c031ce408a74f8663ff58f30dc822a1fc25b00a24771deda1c6e4b41bae0e3e) is my transaction from last week, so am I near africa too?

do some research before you go around and speculate, dude. hint: look at the relayed IP. move your pointer tothe question mark icon

Yeah, they can be easily manipulated with VPN and such, i am just curious, no need to be harsh on anyone, we all learn, "Known is a drop, unknown is an ocean.".  :D

That map does not show the origin of the transaction. It shows the location of the node that relayed the transaction to Blockchain.info. Furthermore, if the location is unknown, the it is assumed to be at 0°00'00.0"N 0°00'00.0"E (https://www.google.com/maps/place/0%C2%B000'00.0%22N+0%C2%B000'00.0%22E/@0,0,4z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0)


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: bensam12345 on March 30, 2015, 06:20:06 PM
LOL, Both of the network propagation data in blockchain.info of the first bitcoin created and the new spend ones show they orginate near Africa, so is Satoshi near Africa? LOL  ;D

are you stupid or something? this (https://blockchain.info/tx/8c031ce408a74f8663ff58f30dc822a1fc25b00a24771deda1c6e4b41bae0e3e) is my transaction from last week, so am I near africa too?

do some research before you go around and speculate, dude. hint: look at the relayed IP. move your pointer tothe question mark icon

Yeah, they can be easily manipulated with VPN and such, i am just curious, no need to be harsh on anyone, we all learn, "Known is a drop, unknown is an ocean.".  :D

That map does not show the origin of the transaction. It shows the location of the node that relayed the transaction to Blockchain.info. Furthermore, if the location is unknown, the it is assumed to be at 0°00'00.0"N 0°00'00.0"E (https://www.google.com/maps/place/0%C2%B000'00.0%22N+0%C2%B000'00.0%22E/@0,0,4z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0)

Ah ok, got it, thanks for clearing it up  :D


Title: Re: Is Satoshi still spendng his bitcoins?
Post by: Slaxt on March 30, 2015, 06:58:37 PM
I started to just follow one of the bitcoin address and the flow of btc from a given bitcoin address claimed to have owned by Satoshi by one of forum members

From this image:
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiDMNXFo.png&t=541&c=XEIGWtzYDM2MOQ

Where are addresses of this very large cold wallets?
One of the coins went to each of these addresses:
  • 1Kf33BbrJDuAVC91w9ACtRgf6KJrLWSkHV
  • 1GEPJiMSDvXHU83GhHHxrVmWL7tt7HPVyD

The first ever bitcoins  https://blockchain.info/tx/0437cd7f8525ceed2324359c2d0ba26006d92d856a9c20fa0241106ee5a597c9

Found that last year a transaction is made https://blockchain.info/address/1JfTwtVUtrnqcicAefCo3f9nLTKYy7wxhV , so the question is , is still Satoshi spending small amount of Bitcoins  ???

Well considering he created the whole thing it wouldn't be surprising that he makes a daily use of it no?

No because there are many wallets who have been traced to him but none of them that i am aware of have moved a single coin in over 5 years so i highly doubt he would be spending small amount now when he had the bubble to cash out a nice amount from the hundreds of thousands that are just sitting there and have been for so long already. If that is him which i doubt good on him at least he is making use of them :)