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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: coyne1981 on March 31, 2015, 12:53:24 PM



Title: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: coyne1981 on March 31, 2015, 12:53:24 PM
So far i have only seen bitdice.me. Are there others? What are your favorites?


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: waterpile on March 31, 2015, 12:57:56 PM
safedice.com
bikinidice.com
prcdice?

I don't trust the others yet coz they're still new.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: XinXan on March 31, 2015, 01:14:04 PM
You should have checked the forum before making a new thread, here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000312.0

and here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945191.0

2 threads discussing the investing in gambling


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: NUFCrichard on March 31, 2015, 01:14:38 PM
safedice.com
bikinidice.com
prcdice?

I don't trust the others yet coz they're still new.

Just-dice is pretty much as safe as you are going to find.
They use Clams now though, so you will have to exchange for bitcoin, then invest. You can also invest with upto 100x leverage if you so choose.

They seem to be making a fairly consistent profit too..


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: twister on March 31, 2015, 01:17:40 PM
Just-dice.com (clams)
dadice.com

These are the only sites I know other than the ones already mentioned which have investment programs.
I don't invest, so I don't have any favorites or recommendations.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: sherbyspark on March 31, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
I would suggest just sticking with Just Dice. They accept Clams, which is an alt coin, and now the price is more or less stable at 0.005 BTC. And the owner has been trustworthy before as well. If you go with other sites then don't invest a high amount.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: factor280 on March 31, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
I just started playing on DaDice yesterday. Their platform is beautifully designed and the site seems to be working really well. They allow investing based on the kelly system so you can take on the risk you feel comfortable with.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: coyne1981 on March 31, 2015, 03:12:06 PM
I just started playing on DaDice yesterday. Their platform is beautifully designed and the site seems to be working really well. They allow investing based on the kelly system so you can take on the risk you feel comfortable with.

Can you explain what that is? I saw that on bitdice too. I couldn't find anything explaining it.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: Shogen on March 31, 2015, 03:17:15 PM
I just started playing on DaDice yesterday. Their platform is beautifully designed and the site seems to be working really well. They allow investing based on the kelly system so you can take on the risk you feel comfortable with.

Can you explain what that is? I saw that on diceme too. I couldn't find anything explaining it.

He is talking about the Kelly formula. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion
With a 1% house edge, the formula says that the house should allow a max profit of 1% of the bankroll. But investors may choose to take less risk (eg. 0.5x Kelly) or more risk (eg. 5x Kelly) according to their own preferences.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: fox19891989 on March 31, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Just-dice: invest CLAMcoin, you can buy and sell it in poloniex.com, the most reliable dice site which you can invest.

dadice: the best new site (click my signature to play, no registration required, just set your password)

Currently find 2 dice sites, if I find more, I will tell you.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: shulio on March 31, 2015, 03:27:12 PM
If you are looking to invest, there are 3 options excluding bitdiceme which you have know

1. Dadice, new site, but the owner seems to doing some legit business
2. PrCasino, heavy invested site, but it seems that they close down investment for a new user
3. Safedice, legit sites, been here for quite sometime and alot has invest their coins there


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: Dennis7777 on March 31, 2015, 03:41:00 PM
So far i have only seen bitdice.me. Are there others? What are your favorites?

There are a lot of such sites, from the popular JD, Bitdice and PRC to some fishy bitdice clones.
My favorite was PRC, but it is going to increase the investment commission from 0.1% to 0.25%. :(


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: trafficolaa on March 31, 2015, 03:47:10 PM
my favorites are dadice and prcdice for investment, dadice has much active team and growing rapidly.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: zcxvbs on March 31, 2015, 03:54:57 PM
Investing in dice sites is risky, personally I don't recommend this investment method.

Yes, dadice is good so far, but nobody can predict the future.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: XinXan on March 31, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Investing in dice sites is risky, personally I don't recommend this investment method.

Yes, dadice is good so far, but nobody can predict the future.

Not sure if troll or you dont know anything about investments. Investing in casinos is one of the best investments you can make, of course no one can predict the future but dont the casinos keep winning and winning? Yes they do and if you invest carefully you can make steady profit easily, yes you might lose sometimes but thats part of the game.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: Twipple on March 31, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
Investing in dice sites is risky, personally I don't recommend this investment method. Yes, dadice is good so far, but nobody can predict the future.
Not sure if troll or you dont know anything about investments. Investing in casinos is one of the best investments you can make, of course no one can predict the future but dont the casinos keep winning and winning? Yes they do and if you invest carefully you can make steady profit easily, yes you might lose sometimes but thats part of the game.

Looks like you are the troll here. Investing in dice sites is one of the worst investments. No onc can predict the future , but the past has been pretty clear in that matter. Almost all the investment dice sites pulled a fast one and ended up scamming.
And you just don't become a millionaire the next day by investing into these dice sites .They profit over a long term, and its best to save your money than investing into them


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: coyne1981 on March 31, 2015, 04:21:23 PM
I just started playing on DaDice yesterday. Their platform is beautifully designed and the site seems to be working really well. They allow investing based on the kelly system so you can take on the risk you feel comfortable with.

Can you explain what that is? I saw that on diceme too. I couldn't find anything explaining it.

He is talking about the Kelly formula. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion
With a 1% house edge, the formula says that the house should allow a max profit of 1% of the bankroll. But investors may choose to take less risk (eg. 0.5x Kelly) or more risk (eg. 5x Kelly) according to their own preferences.

Very helpful, thank you.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: XinXan on March 31, 2015, 04:24:20 PM
Investing in dice sites is risky, personally I don't recommend this investment method. Yes, dadice is good so far, but nobody can predict the future.
Not sure if troll or you dont know anything about investments. Investing in casinos is one of the best investments you can make, of course no one can predict the future but dont the casinos keep winning and winning? Yes they do and if you invest carefully you can make steady profit easily, yes you might lose sometimes but thats part of the game.

Looks like you are the troll here. Investing in dice sites is one of the worst investments. No onc can predict the future , but the past has been pretty clear in that matter. Almost all the investment dice sites pulled a fast one and ended up scamming.
And you just don't become a millionaire the next day by investing into these dice sites .They profit over a long term, and its best to save your money than investing into them

Well shit, talking about scams, im talking about the investment itself not if the casino owners will scam you or not because by that logic you can get scammed anywhere, casinos, exchanges etc etc. invest in just-dice then, they will never scam you. Why is investing in casinos bad? They profit in the long term, so can you. Your argument is just plain stupid


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: sed on March 31, 2015, 04:27:38 PM
safedice.com
bikinidice.com
prcdice?

I don't trust the others yet coz they're still new.

Just-dice is pretty much as safe as you are going to find.
They use Clams now though, so you will have to exchange for bitcoin, then invest. You can also invest with upto 100x leverage if you so choose.

They seem to be making a fairly consistent profit too..

I think I heard of this clams thing mentioned somewhere else recently.  What is it?  It is another altcoin?  Something else?  I'd be surprised if dooglus is into a weird altcoin.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: Twipple on March 31, 2015, 04:28:49 PM


Well shit, talking about scams, im talking about the investment itself not if the casino owners will scam you or not because by that logic you can get scammed anywhere, casinos, exchanges etc etc. invest in just-dice then, they will never scam you. Why is investing in casinos bad? They profit in the long term, so can you. Your argument is just plain stupid

Well the fact that you can be scammed outweighs the fact about being profitable. There was this guy who did reviews of all sites and even invested in them. And at the end despite profiting from the casinos he was at loss because some of them ended as scams.

Looks like you don't understand investments in general. At the dice sites all you get is 1% of wagered, and that too maybe. But you take a bigger risk by investing into them. So its best to not do so. I am not going to argue with anyone, as I am happy not investing, I am just leaving it as a warning. It does me no personal good or bad by telling people to be careful while investing.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: sed on March 31, 2015, 04:45:23 PM
safedice.com
bikinidice.com
prcdice?

I don't trust the others yet coz they're still new.

Just-dice is pretty much as safe as you are going to find.
They use Clams now though, so you will have to exchange for bitcoin, then invest. You can also invest with upto 100x leverage if you so choose.

They seem to be making a fairly consistent profit too..

I think I heard of this clams thing mentioned somewhere else recently.  What is it?  It is another altcoin?  Something else?  I'd be surprised if dooglus is into a weird altcoin.

Holy moly he *is* into a weirdo altcoin.  My how the world has changed.  "CLAM"s? On Just-dice.  Jeezus!


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: Shogen on March 31, 2015, 04:46:59 PM
safedice.com
bikinidice.com
prcdice?

I don't trust the others yet coz they're still new.

Just-dice is pretty much as safe as you are going to find.
They use Clams now though, so you will have to exchange for bitcoin, then invest. You can also invest with upto 100x leverage if you so choose.

They seem to be making a fairly consistent profit too..

I think I heard of this clams thing mentioned somewhere else recently.  What is it?  It is another altcoin?  Something else?  I'd be surprised if dooglus is into a weird altcoin.

Yes CLAM is an altcoin. Altcoin announcement thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.0
IIRC, dooglus in fact involves in the development of the coin.


I just started playing on DaDice yesterday. Their platform is beautifully designed and the site seems to be working really well. They allow investing based on the kelly system so you can take on the risk you feel comfortable with.

Can you explain what that is? I saw that on diceme too. I couldn't find anything explaining it.

He is talking about the Kelly formula. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion
With a 1% house edge, the formula says that the house should allow a max profit of 1% of the bankroll. But investors may choose to take less risk (eg. 0.5x Kelly) or more risk (eg. 5x Kelly) according to their own preferences.

Very helpful, thank you.

You are welcome. :)


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: coyne1981 on March 31, 2015, 04:49:13 PM
safedice.com
bikinidice.com
prcdice?

I don't trust the others yet coz they're still new.

Just-dice is pretty much as safe as you are going to find.
They use Clams now though, so you will have to exchange for bitcoin, then invest. You can also invest with upto 100x leverage if you so choose.

They seem to be making a fairly consistent profit too..

I think I heard of this clams thing mentioned somewhere else recently.  What is it?  It is another altcoin?  Something else?  I'd be surprised if dooglus is into a weird altcoin.

Yes it is an altcoin. You actually may have some already if you had a bitcoin client with money in it on 2014-05-12. If not, you can convert BTC to Clam of course. Here is an excerpt from just-dice FAQ:

"The CLAM project was launched back in May of 2014. Every Bitcoin, Litecoin, and Dogecoin address that had a non-dust balance in early May was given 4.6 CLAMs for free, and that is how all the CLAMs were initially distributed. If you have a BTC, LTC, or DOGE wallet that was funded in May, you already have some CLAM."


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: Nami on March 31, 2015, 05:00:17 PM
I still go to just-dice since they are the oldest dice site, but they do alt coins called clam.



Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: XinXan on March 31, 2015, 05:32:52 PM


Well shit, talking about scams, im talking about the investment itself not if the casino owners will scam you or not because by that logic you can get scammed anywhere, casinos, exchanges etc etc. invest in just-dice then, they will never scam you. Why is investing in casinos bad? They profit in the long term, so can you. Your argument is just plain stupid

Well the fact that you can be scammed outweighs the fact about being profitable. There was this guy who did reviews of all sites and even invested in them. And at the end despite profiting from the casinos he was at loss because some of them ended as scams.

Looks like you don't understand investments in general. At the dice sites all you get is 1% of wagered, and that too maybe. But you take a bigger risk by investing into them. So its best to not do so. I am not going to argue with anyone, as I am happy not investing, I am just leaving it as a warning. It does me no personal good or bad by telling people to be careful while investing.

I told you that there are sites that are 100% trusted and you can invest in those, just-dice. So whats your idea of a good investment then ?? I would like to hear it.


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: gkv9 on March 31, 2015, 06:51:30 PM
A few of these are:

dicenow.com (http://dicenow.com)
Satoshidice.com (http://Satoshidice.com)
dadice.com (http://dadice.com)


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: Bitdicesupport on March 31, 2015, 07:13:18 PM
Thank you for mentioning us in the OP.

A few reasons to choose www.BitDice.me

*Trusted site that has been around for longer than a year
*Investors can choose regular investing or up to Kelly x10
*Investors can choose between 5 currencies to invest in: BTC, LTC, DOGE, REDD, CLAM
*Instant investment and divestments.
*Instant withdrawals and 1 confirm deposits.

We also expect the userbase to continuously grow as new features are being added, making investing a good choice.

 


Title: Re: Gambling sites that allow investing
Post by: Webnet on March 31, 2015, 08:21:02 PM
try just-dice.com only they only use altcoins