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Title: Monero Official GUI
Post by: GTO911 on April 01, 2015, 09:29:21 AM
I see a lot of talk about Monero not having an official GUI wallet. Here's what people say -

1. Monero devs cant write code, they are incompetent

2. Monero cant even get a GUI after an year


The Truth

As this is brand new tech, some time is needed to get things working. This is NOT a Bitcoin based code like 99.9% of the coins. We dont have the Bitcoin QT to just copy from and make some changes. Things have to be written from scratch.

As a fact the devs had started on the GUI 9 months back



Below: the dashboard tab.

https://i.imgur.com/4jGxpTj.png



Here is the link to the actual was in development wallet photos -

goo.gl/5hksrX



So what happened in these 9 months, why dont we have that damn GUI ?

The devs moved the GUI to a much lower priority. They need to fix serious stuff first. They are not going to push eye candy to pump the price only to dump it. They are doing things which will affect Monero years after

They are making Monero ready for the future

The current priorities and goals are here - https://getmonero.org/design-goals/  

As you can see the GUI implementation has been moved very low in the list, so dont expect it very soon, maybe this year. Here is what fluffy has to say about it -


Saying that a well-designed, intuitive, easily-used Graphical User Interface doesn't matter is simply ridiculous. I realize that fluffypony had a specific issue that he was making a point about when he wrote what he did regarding adoption, business integration, and the GUI.

However, a well-designed, intuitive, and easily-used Graphical User Interface are crucial for the success of virtually any piece of software or hardware in today's day and age.
Why is Apple so successful? I would argue that their GUI's, combined with the hardware to properly utilize the potential of their GUI's, is the entire basis of their success. Sure, marketing and reputation have been vital, but without good-looking GUI's their marketing department would be trying to put lipstick on a pig.

Why is Windows more popular than Linux? Linux is free, Windows costs money. Shouldn't people run the free OS more often? Windows is easily used. Linux has come a long way, but it inevitably requires substantially more effort for the average person.

If the Monero GUI can make the slope of the learning curve so easy to climb that Your Mom Can Use It, it will be vital in propelling the success of XMR that all of us are so eager to witness.

I hope it's been demonstrated with MyMonero that we know a thing or two about UX and simplicity, and that will translate to the GUI.

That said, it's simply not acceptable for us (to echo your words) to put lipstick on a pig and ship a GUI that is pleasant enough, but takes 4 days to sync from scratch, requires 6+gb of RAM, sucks a ton of bandwidth, and is accepted nearly nowhere.

We will deliver a proverbial work of art, but it requires building out parts of the foundation that we had previously viewed as less of a priority (until the 202612 attack). Oh, and we're doing it on like no money, so there's that.


And do you know Monero development is entirely voluntary? Yes, development is funded ONLY by donations because Monero has no premine/instamine. Monero devs are mostly paying out of their own pockets to develop an open source software. They dont have 1000's of BTC's from IPO/ICO's

To help development, please consider donating -

XMR

Code:
address (OpenAlias) donate.getmonero.org
address (full) 46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8aHYjA3jk3o1Bv16em
viewkey: e422831985c9205238ef84daf6805526c14d96fd7b059fe68c7ab98e495e5703

BTC

Code:
1FhnVJi2V1k4MqXm2nHoEbY5LV7FPai7bb


Title: Re: Monero GUI
Post by: fluffypony on April 01, 2015, 12:26:28 PM
The code for that GUI was pushed up today: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-core

It's nowhere near integration ready, but there will be a bit of work done to head in that direction.


Title: Re: Monero GUI
Post by: GTO911 on April 03, 2015, 02:56:42 PM
The code for that GUI was pushed up today: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-core

It's nowhere near integration ready, but there will be a bit of work done to head in that direction.

Thanks for the update fluffy



Title: Re: Monero Official GUI
Post by: sparky999 on April 03, 2015, 03:33:20 PM
I've been meaning to donate to the devs for a while but your post finally made me do it.

100XMR sent - sorry it wasn't done sooner and thank you for all your hard virtually free work.


Title: Re: Monero Official GUI
Post by: dEBRUYNE on April 03, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
More pictures here:

http://imgur.com/a/ERheR

Make sure you scroll down!


Title: Re: Monero Official GUI
Post by: bytemuma on April 03, 2015, 04:42:14 PM
More pictures here:

http://imgur.com/a/ERheR

Make sure you scroll down!

Wallet looks nice. Great job. :)


Title: Re: Monero Official GUI
Post by: generalizethis on April 03, 2015, 07:59:20 PM
Here's Fluffy going over it on video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTDS3iCqRY


Title: Re: Monero Official GUI
Post by: antw081 on April 04, 2015, 08:45:11 AM
I've been meaning to donate to the devs for a while but your post finally made me do it.

100XMR sent - sorry it wasn't done sooner and thank you for all your hard virtually free work.

You should make a post on the Monero Community Hall of Fame thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700400.0

Get yourself on the Hall of Fame Wall  :D


Title: Re: Monero Official GUI
Post by: generalizethis on April 04, 2015, 12:20:07 PM
Lmao

Was Evan telling you about the time he instamined a coin and then said it was an accident?


Title: Re: Monero Official GUI
Post by: duid88 on April 04, 2015, 12:21:48 PM
I started liking this one XMR coin, hopefully in the future can succumb bitcoin  ;D


Title: Re: Monero Official GUI
Post by: Mineotaur on April 05, 2015, 03:06:37 PM
I wonder if an ELI5 for using the command line wallet might help some people. I stumbled across something similar when I first got into cryptonote and found it very useful.

The command line wallet (windows) is here:

http://downloads.getmonero.org/win64

To use it once downloaded, simply run bitmonerod.exe, then with that still running (might need a while to sync), run simplewallet.exe. Now into the simplewallet command line console type a username and password when prompted. Type save, type exit. Simplewallet.exe now exits, and in the directory in which you ran it, now exists *walletname*.keys - back up this file and you're set with a local wallet and encrypted keyfiles. *walletname*.address.txt is also there and provides you with a receiving address.

To paste commands into simplewallet.exe, hold Alt+Space, a dropdown box appears. e.g. To send coins to an exchange or anywhere else which requires a payment ID, paste the following command:

transfer 0 <Deposit Address> <amount> <Payment ID>

GUI will be nice, a lot of people have been waiting a long time, but command line is just as easy once you know how.