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Offered to sell me one-half bitcoin for $130 from paypal friends and family, which, of course, cannot be questioned after it is done.  I stupidly agreed (my fault).

Sent email saying to send it to him at fdsatyur@gmail.com (Ellen Loaster according to paypal) which I did.  He quickly sent me a response and said he was refunding me my money because he had given the wrong address.  He gave me a new address of albartshahen09@yahoo.com (sakril albat according to paypal) and I sent the money.

He then sent me an email saying he did not get the money, get it back from the person he told me to send it to and send it to the original email again.  Of course, I could not get it back.

He now says that he does not know the person with that email.  I called him a scammer and asked him if he did not know the person, then why did he want the money sent there?  He has never responded back.

Hello dear,

Can you show here all your prof?
Do you contact paypal about this case?
What is the exact date when the transaction has made?
Please reply me with all answers,
Thank you.

Even if you sent the money by friends and family, it can still be reversed.   That's why Paypal is a horrible option to buy/sell bitcoin with.  Reversals can happen for a long time even after the sell.

interesting because i sent an email to them and they said to call them.  i am in the philippines, so i sent it to my son to call them.  my son called them from the united states and they told him it cannot be reversed even after he escalated it.  they also asked why i would be sending money via friends and family to someone i did not know.

so now what?  looks to me like i am out $130.

PS:  markmj---sent you a pm asking for an email where i can send attachments so i can send copies of our gmail conversation which i downloaded to word and forward the emails i have on gmail.  also gave you permission to look at my correspondence with him on this forum.

looks like this guy just registered on March 31st. you should've never trusted a new member.

can I ask you something? did he tried to stall by telling you his laptop is out of battery or something like that?

Please use escrow next time. A list of people who offer this service can be found in the Escrow Whitelist thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

Prime example of why Escrow should always be first priority... Sorry for your loss buddy, I've been in those shoes before.

The first email was used/mentioned by another scammer on bitcointalk right here  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1003119.msg10889520#msg10889520

And he is already with negative trust.

This is also him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=433990