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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: BCB on August 17, 2012, 02:28:48 AM



Title: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on August 17, 2012, 02:28:48 AM
Don't even know if that is his real name but he used that name and this email address of a verified paypal account:

mysticalnl@gmail.com.

He also used the email qwois@hotmail.com

There is info here about this user/account from old bitcoin talk posts"

http://pastebin.com/Ap2xmYtZ

and here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=50906.0

He USED MOBILE PHONES NUMBERS
0616159824
31616159824
12034932706
His IP Address is 88.159.209.204  and tracks back to armax.me with a hidden whois.
He's from Belgium.

He also used the nic Meddy on bitcoinary.com

He's not the sharpest pencil in the box so he's pretty harmless but I'd hate to see other members get screwed by him.

DIE SCAMMER SCUM


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on August 17, 2012, 03:56:58 AM
he is on the move.

armax.me now points to 176.9.122.74

And 88.159.209.204 now point to

Domain name: klumpkens.nl
Status: active

Registrar:
Madeo Webservices
Roald Dahllaan 53
5629MC EINDHOVEN
Netherlands

DNSSEC: no

Domain nameservers:
zeus.madeo.nl
neptune.madeo.nl

he must be an isp.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Maged on August 17, 2012, 05:45:17 AM
Could you go into Paypal and hit the refund button on the transaction he sent you?

Oh man, I remember this guy...


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on August 17, 2012, 12:27:08 PM
He did not scam me.   

What these guy do is find a valid payal account then use it as ID for a trade.  They come up with some excuse like "I've been on the board longer then you" or "I never send first" and try to get you to send first.  Then they just disappear.  The thing with this guy was that he actually had control of the paypal email, which is even more difficult to detect fraud.

[snip]
Hey,
I'm looking for an amount of 120 bitcoins. I saw you have 100 for sale so I'd like to buy those if you are interested, and perhaps 20 more if you have those available. I agree with the current price of MtGoX+5%. Please let me know!
[/snip]

[snip]
Hey,
What's your email then? Also, just to make it clear, I do not go first for a transaction. If you want to do 60-full amount-60 that is fine as well, but I'm afraid to go first because of the amount of scammers.  - RED FLAG!
Please let me know.
[/snip]

[snip]
Ok, give me a second! But would you be okay by sending first? Sorry for asking but I'm a bit skeptical since having been scammed..   RED FLAG!
[/snip]

[snip]
Great!
Well I'm looking for 120 Bitcoins but on your sale you had 100, so if you have 120 that would be great, otherwise 100. With your price of +5% it would be $1431,86 for 100 or €1718,262 for 120. My wallet address is 1516rnmGUDeF4vyBX3NDR5eXd22yKZdPHR.
Great to see how you really make sure everything goes legit by the way, I might actually go do the same thing on future trades with people (with phone number etc).   [ now they pat you on the back.  it called gaining your confidence] RED FLAG
Thanks
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Let's start with a small amount say 10 BTC.
[/snip]

[snip]
If you want to split payments thats fine for me, but 10 at a time will take quite long :/ Would you be okay with 60 - full amount - 60?   HUGE RED FLAG!  Trust ALWAYS goes both ways.  If not delete.
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Let's start with 10 then we'll move on to bigger amounts. That would be $143.70 USD.  Once I get payment I'll send 10 coins.
[/snip]

[snip]
Mate, you have verified several things of me and I have zero verifications of you, I dont even know your name. Also, you said you were okay by sending first ('Yes Glad to if you are verified. '). I'm sticking to what we agreed on, sorry.
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Ok, Send me $1.00 just for a test.  That way you have my name and full information.  I'm sure you understand.
Thanks.
[/snip]

[snip]
Sorry, but even if I have your name and information I will not send first either. I think it's weird that you all of a sudden change your mind at the deal and I'm very skeptical at trading Bitcoins so I prefer not to take the risk.
[/snip]


Then it looked like he googled my email (He contacted me on bitcoinary)

[snip]
Not until you have send me the blockchain of the right address.. Look mate, I know that you're BCB and that you have a good reputation on bitcointalk.org, but I don't know what's going on here. But I do know that if you're trying to screw me over or whatsoever that your reputation will be gone..
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Why would I try to screw you over.  Did you see my reputation on bitoin talk and on bitcoinary.  Never a bad trade. What   are you on Bitcointalk now?  Check it out.
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Ok, PM me from you nic on bitcoin talk so I can check your rep there.
[/snip]

[snip]
Look I want to trust you but you even refuse to send the blockchain address.. And if you had really send the bitcoins I would've had a confirmation of that by now.. So you can enter send that or I will post the logs on both sites.
[/snip]

So you see the pattern here:

Insists on sending first. 
Used valid but compromised credentials to verify.

refused to do PM me from his BTC nic.  ALWASYS get verification when some one you are trading with says they have cred on another site (OTC, BCT, Bitcoinary).  Have them contact you from that nic on that site.  Never take their word for it.

He's working hard here.  (On his original post he's offering Mt. Gox last plus 10%)  - FYI only scammers offer that kind of rate.  Then they play on your GREED.

Finally he resorts to threats.  Posting logs and ruining my reputation etc.  blah blah blah.

Meanwhile, while we were having this conversation ( I told him I send 60 BTC) I posted on his bitcoinary profile.

https://www.bitcoinary.com/en/users/879/profile

When he reads that he gig was up.

Someone should try to dox this guy.  You know he'll be back.



Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on August 17, 2012, 03:36:06 PM
I've just been informed that the numbers he used are from the Netherlands


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Tomatocage on August 17, 2012, 06:16:42 PM
He also used the nic Meddy on bitcoinary.com

I wonder if he's the same guy as Meddol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63911), who recently received the fag tag.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on August 17, 2012, 06:17:54 PM
What happened with Meddol?


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Tomatocage on August 17, 2012, 06:24:11 PM
What happened with Meddol?

As soon as he got out of the sandbox, he hit up Lending with yet another sob story.  He also raised some red flags for me, but I can't really list them in public otherwise scammers will adapt.  How and who marked him as a Scammer, I don't know.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on August 17, 2012, 06:25:01 PM
It is the same guy.  The email match.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Maged on August 17, 2012, 06:28:50 PM
How and who marked him as a Scammer, I don't know.
We discovered that he was Aldun and marked him.

BCB, it looks like you traded with him on HiPay. Guess that's how he knew who you were. I hope HiPay isn't reversible...


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on August 17, 2012, 06:29:45 PM
Checking that now.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Tomatocage on August 17, 2012, 11:25:27 PM
How did you discover Aldun? Do you guys randomly poll new accounts for IPs/Email addys of previously known scammers?


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: rjk on August 20, 2012, 01:49:38 AM
How did you discover Aldun? Do you guys randomly poll new accounts for IPs/Email addys of previously known scammers?
Not all new accounts, just those that are accused of scamming.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Tomatocage on August 21, 2012, 01:52:46 AM
Man, yall should make me a mod.  I live for outing scammers.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on August 21, 2012, 04:03:51 PM
So "Tom"  used a credit card on one hi pay account.  
Transferred it to another Hi Pay account in the name of Tom VD Wiel
Then transferred it to my account.  

HiPay considered the account to account transfers fraudulent and reversed all the charges, and permanently closed all accounts.

So "Tom" either used his own card or carded some one else's card.

AKAs:  

1. Tom van de Moosdijk

2. Tom VD Wiel

3.  Aldun
     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=45474

4.  Meddy
     https://www.bitcoinary.com/en/users/879/profile

     probably also
5.  Randalf
    https://www.bitcoinary.com/en/users/880/profile
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86304.msg1098841#msg1098841



The email seems to remain the same:
mysticalnl@gmail.com


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on April 13, 2013, 09:27:19 PM
from

http://twitter.yfrog.com/user/Moosje_/photos



Moosje_
Thom
Location Veldhoven
http://twitter.com/Moosje_
Bio Living for the harder styles!

http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/618/npcixm.jpg
http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/877/4qqqk.jpg
http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/614/mxpge.jpg
http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/614/cg7yy.jpg
http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/612/w3vzm.jpg
http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/875/9rwkn.jpg
http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/878/w30ail.jpg


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 15, 2013, 12:12:33 AM
Ouch, that sucks deejay.. next time hopefully you're googling everyone that trades with you :P


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Edvin512 on April 15, 2013, 01:10:25 AM
ah Warry, the litecoin circle of trust scammer, where has he not been?


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Tomatocage on April 15, 2013, 02:06:20 AM
Did anybody happen to save those pics?


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Tomatocage on April 15, 2013, 02:10:18 AM
ah Warry, the litecoin circle of trust scammer, where has he not been?

I wonder who will turn out to be a scammer next. You have any ideas?


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on April 15, 2013, 02:27:09 AM
Did anybody happen to save those pics?

what pics??


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: Tomatocage on April 15, 2013, 03:14:13 AM

Those pics.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on April 15, 2013, 03:15:35 AM
yes

they are in the post below.


Title: Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com
Post by: BCB on April 21, 2013, 04:57:34 PM


Oh Damn.  Should have uploade to imgur.