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Title: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: mbitdice on April 05, 2015, 01:21:40 PM
So i need a bot that can help me with this.

Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
then
If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
then
Start Margintale.

This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: leen93 on April 05, 2015, 02:17:36 PM
So i need a bot that can help me with this.

Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
then
If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
then
Start Margintale.

This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.
28 reds after 10 reds is as likely or unlikely as 28 reds from the beginning.


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: mbitdice on April 05, 2015, 02:36:23 PM
So i need a bot that can help me with this.

Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
then
If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
then
Start Margintale.

This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.
28 reds after 10 reds is as likely or unlikely as 28 reds from the beginning.


Really? I'm not so good at math but logically speaking it seems that it shouldn't be right?


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: leen93 on April 05, 2015, 05:29:32 PM
So i need a bot that can help me with this.

Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
then
If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
then
Start Margintale.

This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.
28 reds after 10 reds is as likely or unlikely as 28 reds from the beginning.


Really? I'm not so good at math but logically speaking it seems that it shouldn't be right?
yes
given you have 10 times red before you do the bet still gives you the same chance of winning (just the % what's on your screen).
so you can better just do the martingale system starting low if that's what you want but keep in mind that with betting you lose in the long run, no matter which system you use.


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: XinXan on April 05, 2015, 05:46:19 PM
So i need a bot that can help me with this.

Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
then
If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
then
Start Margintale.

This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.
28 reds after 10 reds is as likely or unlikely as 28 reds from the beginning.


Really? I'm not so good at math but logically speaking it seems that it shouldn't be right?

It is like this, if you bet 3 times you could get these results:

RED RED RED
RED RED BLACK
RED BLACK RED
RED BLACK BLACK
BLACK BLACK BLACK
BLACK BLACK RED
BLACK RED BLACK
BLACK RED RED

Each of then having a 12.5% of happening, now lets say you got 2 reds in a row, you would have thise:

RED RED RED
RED RED BLACK

2 possibilities 50% so the previous 2 reds didnt affect at all the next result


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: ndnh on April 05, 2015, 05:49:19 PM
So i need a bot that can help me with this.

Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
then
If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
then
Start Margintale.

This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.
28 reds after 10 reds is as likely or unlikely as 28 reds from the beginning.


Really? I'm not so good at math but logically speaking it seems that it shouldn't be right?
yes
given you have 10 times red before you do the bet still gives you the same chance of winning (just the % what's on your screen).
so you can better just do the martingale system starting low if that's what you want but keep in mind that with betting you lose in the long run, no matter which system you use.

OPs strategy just takes more time. (OP will be able to see green for a longer time before bustng. The amount will be the same though theoretically)

Make 38 losses and you can show off :D


Edit: btw,
38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.
is correct.
Only since you are making real bets only after 10 losses, there is no effect. Only it will take a longer..


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: XinXan on April 05, 2015, 06:27:22 PM
So i need a bot that can help me with this.

Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
then
If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
then
Start Margintale.

This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.

It is true that 38 in a row is less likely but at the same time the more bets you make the more chances of getting 38 in a row and since you are making bets until you get 10 in a row (0.097% chance of happening) so roughly every 1000 bets you can start betting for real, the problem with this strategy is that it would take you years to even make a small profit because you need 1000 bets before you even start betting with martingale


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: ndnh on April 05, 2015, 06:39:37 PM
So i need a bot that can help me with this.

Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
then
If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
then
Start Margintale.

This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.

It is true that 38 in a row is less likely but at the same time the more bets you make the more chances of getting 38 in a row and since you are making bets until you get 10 in a row (0.097% chance of happening) so roughly every 1000 bets you can start betting for real, the problem with this strategy is that it would take you years to even make a small profit because you need 1000 bets before you even start betting with martingale

38 losses are less odds of happening than 28 losses. But OP is NOT following that.

28 losses after 10 losses is the same odds as 28 losses in the first instance itself. This is what OP is following.

In effect, he just loses his time. (that is right :D)

(The former case can only be achieved by increasing his bankroll or decreasing his initial bet - 1 satoshi is lowest unless he switches to some other coin or something.)


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: rockBTC on April 05, 2015, 08:50:52 PM
here is the link to the bot I use, just adjust the parameters to your needs

link: http://pastebin.com/4JrphadW#


Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
Post by: mbitdice on April 05, 2015, 09:02:36 PM
    So i need a bot that can help me with this.

    Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
    then
    If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
    then
    Start Margintale.

    This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.

    It is true that 38 in a row is less likely but at the same time the more bets you make the more chances of getting 38 in a row and since you are making bets until you get 10 in a row (0.097% chance of happening) so roughly every 1000 bets you can start betting for real, the problem with this strategy is that it would take you years to even make a small profit because you need 1000 bets before you even start betting with martingale

    See the thing is, primedice allows you to make 0.00000000 btc bets, could use them as pre rolls. so anything apart from "time" which does not matter to the bot is not lost am i right?

    So we get

    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000000 Lose
    BTC 0.00000001 Lose
    BTC 0.00000002 Lose
    BTC 0.00000004 Lose
    BTC 0.00000008 Lose
    BTC 0.00000016 Lose
    BTC 0.00000032 Lose
    BTC 0.00000064 Lose
    BTC 0.00000128 Lose
    BTC 0.00000256 Lose
    BTC 0.00000512 Lose
    BTC 0.00001024 Lose
    BTC 0.00002048 Lose
    BTC 0.00004096 Win BTC 0.00008192

    in one of the worst case scenarios, where previously we would probably be at loss of 0.1 btc or so maybe haven't checked


    here is the link to the bot I use, just adjust the parameters to your needs

    link: http://pastebin.com/4JrphadW#


    this bot never works, always get

    OST https://api.primedice.com/api/bet?access_token=REMOVED 400 (Bad Request)[/list]


    Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
    Post by: XinXan on April 06, 2015, 06:10:26 AM
      So i need a bot that can help me with this.

      Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
      then
      If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
      then
      Start Margintale.

      This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.

      It is true that 38 in a row is less likely but at the same time the more bets you make the more chances of getting 38 in a row and since you are making bets until you get 10 in a row (0.097% chance of happening) so roughly every 1000 bets you can start betting for real, the problem with this strategy is that it would take you years to even make a small profit because you need 1000 bets before you even start betting with martingale

      See the thing is, primedice allows you to make 0.00000000 btc bets, could use them as pre rolls. so anything apart from "time" which does not matter to the bot is not lost am i right?

      So we get

      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000000 Lose
      BTC 0.00000001 Lose
      BTC 0.00000002 Lose
      BTC 0.00000004 Lose
      BTC 0.00000008 Lose
      BTC 0.00000016 Lose
      BTC 0.00000032 Lose
      BTC 0.00000064 Lose
      BTC 0.00000128 Lose
      BTC 0.00000256 Lose
      BTC 0.00000512 Lose
      BTC 0.00001024 Lose
      BTC 0.00002048 Lose
      BTC 0.00004096 Win BTC 0.00008192

      in one of the worst case scenarios, where previously we would probably be at loss of 0.1 btc or so maybe haven't checked


      here is the link to the bot I use, just adjust the parameters to your needs

      link: http://pastebin.com/4JrphadW#


      this bot never works, always get

      OST https://api.primedice.com/api/bet?access_token=REMOVED 400 (Bad Request)[/list]

      You are betting with base bet of 1 satoshis, to win 0.01 btc you would need to bet 2.000.000 times with martingale strategy, now if you are also using the 10 loses pre rolls wich as i said earlier would be around 1000 bets before you get them, 1.000.000 x 1.000 = 1.000.100.000 thats the number of total bets (1 billion) to win 0.01 btc, even if you are using a bot betting 1 billion times would take a lot, years..  even with 1 bet per second.


      Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
      Post by: TriggerX on April 06, 2015, 06:15:02 AM
      Tbh I don't think prerolling helps at all.

      Your bet is not influenced by the previous bets. However if you want to do your method, betting 0 is actually called a preroll.

      You can probably find paradocks bot and set up 10 prerolls on 2x. Then implement your normal martingale and it should work fine. If you need any more help, you can PM me.


      Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
      Post by: mbitdice on April 06, 2015, 10:47:30 AM
      Tbh I don't think prerolling helps at all.

      Your bet is not influenced by the previous bets. However if you want to do your method, betting 0 is actually called a preroll.

      You can probably find paradocks bot and set up 10 prerolls on 2x. Then implement your normal martingale and it should work fine. If you need any more help, you can PM me.

      Yeah i got it to work on firefox but couldn't configure it properly for martingale, can you send me an example screenshot config for martingale after 10 loss please?


      Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
      Post by: LiQuidx on April 06, 2015, 12:19:18 PM
      So i need a bot that can help me with this.

      Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
      then
      If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
      then
      Start Margintale.

      This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.

      http://pastebin.com/w3BcbZgs

      You can use this.. After you fill the settings you want BEFORE you start it click on "Set Parameters" and then start it.


      Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
      Post by: mbitdice on April 06, 2015, 12:24:35 PM
      So i need a bot that can help me with this.

      Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
      then
      If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
      then
      Start Margintale.

      This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.

      http://pastebin.com/w3BcbZgs

      You can use this.. After you fill the settings you want BEFORE you start it click on "Set Parameters" and then start it.


      ok thanks, i already tried this bot but i can't get it to do a margintale bet... do you have an example config?


      Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
      Post by: LiQuidx on April 06, 2015, 01:17:51 PM
      So i need a bot that can help me with this.

      Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
      then
      If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
      then
      Start Margintale.

      This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.

      http://pastebin.com/w3BcbZgs

      You can use this.. After you fill the settings you want BEFORE you start it click on "Set Parameters" and then start it.


      ok thanks, i already tried this bot but i can't get it to do a margintale bet... do you have an example config?

      If you want to martingale on x2 then you set the payout on x2. Increase on loss x2 and the base bet you want.
      It's quite simple... What can't you get right?


      Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
      Post by: memphixx on April 07, 2015, 12:36:45 AM
      the odds and/or probability of rolling any particular number DO NOT change. if you rolled a million times betting under and lose, the probability of rolling a high number next would not increase, the odds would be the same.


      Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
      Post by: B4RF on April 07, 2015, 11:41:13 PM
      So i need a bot that can help me with this.

      Make X amount of 0.00000000 BTC bets
      then
      If 10 reds in a row, Base bet = 0.00000001 BTC.
      then
      Start Margintale.

      This way i have way less chance of losing 0.1btc with 28 reds in a row *i think its 28* from 1 satoshi. as i would need 38 reds in a row, less likely than 28 reds in a row.

      That's the reason why all those gambling sites win so much...
      some guys think they have good "betting strategies" but they have actually no clue of the math behind it.


      Title: Re: In need of a Primedice Bot that can do this martingale strategy
      Post by: Pantheon on April 08, 2015, 12:06:17 AM
      I think you want a bot honestly, the martingale dies in the end.

      Esp, doubling method depends on the bankroll as well which most dont consider.