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Title: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Wary on April 06, 2015, 12:22:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/isiYwXI.png


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: lebing on April 06, 2015, 08:05:09 AM
Well we already passed on in linear... Passing it on log would be huge if it happened.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: laris2 on April 06, 2015, 08:10:18 AM
More hacks more dumps shame :(


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: umairsaleem on April 06, 2015, 09:19:37 AM
We were supposed to step into bull market in last month, but the expectation ended up with a crash from 300$, everything is unpredictable, but I'm negative now.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: NUFCrichard on April 06, 2015, 09:43:43 AM
There is too much investment in Bitcoin, it is a matter of time until a break-out occurs.
Then we can have all the same technical analysis showing that is fits a pattern perfectly!

I think the price is crazily low at the moment, it is easier and easier to invest, stock markets are peaking, bonds yield nothing, money will come to bitcoin and the price will rise. I predict $400 by July


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on April 06, 2015, 09:50:44 AM
I think price will go below $200 again.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: uki on April 06, 2015, 09:54:01 AM
@OP: there is still more room for further horizontal move in the chart and that is what will happen, imo. More of sidewards and indecision for another month.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on April 06, 2015, 09:55:56 AM
Do you mean just touch it or actually breach it?  :P



Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: GrandmaJean on April 06, 2015, 11:33:21 AM
Do you mean just touch it or actually breach it?  :P


i think cross it means go over it. also i dont think it will happen as bitcoin bounces for a while now so it will bounce down again


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Wary on April 06, 2015, 11:43:33 AM
Do you mean just touch it or actually breach it?  :P


i think cross it means go over it. also i dont think it will happen as bitcoin bounces for a while now so it will bounce down again
+1  :)


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Torque on April 06, 2015, 11:52:43 AM
Wary, are you using a linear or log chart with straight lines?

According to my log chart, we already broke the down trend.

https://i.imgur.com/9rrjcml.jpg


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: randy8777 on April 06, 2015, 11:55:07 AM
everytime it look like it is going up an exchange or bitcoin related service gets hacked and we're going down again.
i hope this time it will go up with no drama.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: uki on April 06, 2015, 12:01:26 PM
everytime it look like it is going up an exchange or bitcoin related service gets hacked and we're going down again.
i hope this time it will go up with no drama.
people somehow got more immune to such news recently, and now it takes quite a lot of stolen Bitcoins to actually see the negative influence on the charts.
That is the positive part of the news. We seem to be reversing the down trend from the last year and negative news are not making so much harm, atm.
But, if there is a lot of news about hacked exchanges we may in the end exceed the critical mass after which the price will start falling again. 


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: samson on April 06, 2015, 12:06:14 PM
I think what we've been seeing lately are a few speculative bounces on the way down and there's nothing to suggest that it's bottomed out or about to change direction any time soon as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: asuryan180 on April 06, 2015, 12:09:39 PM
We were supposed to step into bull market in last month, but the expectation ended up with a crash from 300$, everything is unpredictable, but I'm negative now.

We did touch our toe into the bull market but someone decided to steal a bitcoins and people got scared and turned it back to what it was before, the good thing you could see it was trying before that. I am also a little on the negative side of speculation because that is all i have seen since getting here, the price down down down down. Who knows where  now.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Amph on April 06, 2015, 12:25:45 PM
at this rate of price correction, i think not, we need more time for that, maybe before summer, but right now is still to premature

anyway from your chart it appear that we have already crossed it(the green spike), so do you mean permanently?


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: lebing on April 06, 2015, 01:08:03 PM
Wary, are you using a linear or log chart with straight lines?

According to my log chart, we already broke the down trend.

https://i.imgur.com/9rrjcml.jpg

clear your lines and look again  :D


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on April 06, 2015, 01:46:52 PM
Wary, are you using a linear or log chart with straight lines?

According to my log chart, we already broke the down trend.

https://i.imgur.com/9rrjcml.jpg
These are lines drawn on linear scale while the chart is in log scale.

Lines in linear scale don't mean much.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on April 06, 2015, 01:47:23 PM
Do you mean just touch it or actually breach it?  :P


i think cross it means go over it. also i dont think it will happen as bitcoin bounces for a while now so it will bounce down again
+1  :)
Ok  :P

I don't think we will cross it then  :P


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: damiano on April 06, 2015, 01:51:15 PM
Shorts have increased quite a bit over the past few days.  I think a drop is coming


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: inca on April 06, 2015, 01:54:33 PM
Shorts have increased quite a bit over the past few days.  I think a drop is coming

You are short though, damiano.

Remember, you closed your long yesterday at a lower level than this? :)


Just closed my long that I opened at 239.  These no volume spikes worry me a bit.  Short still open and going to add a bit more around 270-275 if it gets there.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: uki on April 06, 2015, 02:35:22 PM
I think what we've been seeing lately are a few speculative bounces on the way down and there's nothing to suggest that it's bottomed out or about to change direction any time soon as far as I'm concerned.

the longer we do not establish a new low, the more solid looks the last one. So far we have been doing pretty good at reversing the last year's down trend. I don't know why people expect exponential rise to start immediately after? Can someone explain that to me?
We are in the healthy trend reversal, not more and not less. And after couple more months we may see how it goes further.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Wary on April 06, 2015, 07:25:39 PM
Wary, are you using a linear or log chart with straight lines?

According to my log chart, we already broke the down trend.

https://i.imgur.com/9rrjcml.jpg
Log chart, log lines, bitstamp, 3d. But I assume you're joking :)


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: MiningAtlas on April 07, 2015, 03:38:18 PM

will will smash through that in a glorious sideways movement


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Fabrizio89 on April 07, 2015, 03:39:51 PM
Could be if a couple of good news stack one upon each other. I'd prefer around June though.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: ensurance982 on April 07, 2015, 03:41:59 PM
Oh well, we could bounce off of it one, two, or a couple more times, I guess. But I believe we will break out, eventually!


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: uki on April 07, 2015, 03:48:31 PM

will will smash through that in a glorious sideways movement
I think we will first bounce down off the 2014 down-trend line (the red arrow) and then find the support in the bottom bound of the 2015 up-trend channel you depicted.
That seems to me the roadmap for the next 1-2 months.
More sideways ahead, I think.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: damiano on April 07, 2015, 03:49:22 PM
Shorts have increased quite a bit over the past few days.  I think a drop is coming

You are short though, damiano.

Remember, you closed your long yesterday at a lower level than this? :)


Just closed my long that I opened at 239.  These no volume spikes worry me a bit.  Short still open and going to add a bit more around 270-275 if it gets there.

Long was closed on futures which had a higher spike than bitfinex  ;)


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: ensurance982 on April 07, 2015, 03:51:16 PM

will will smash through that in a glorious sideways movement
I think we will first bounce down off the 2014 down-trend line (the red arrow) and then find the support in the bottom bound of the 2015 up-trend channel you depicted.
That seems to me the roadmap for the next 1-2 months.
More sideways ahead, I think.

It's highly important that we don't make lower and lower lows while doing that. Our current support lines seem to be pretty stable, which is pretty good. We're still not "safe", though!


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: calchuchesta on April 08, 2015, 11:13:01 AM


Moon time ba-by.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Q7 on April 08, 2015, 11:18:09 AM
Well I was full of optimism when the price suddenly went up to 255 yesterday but it didn't hang on to its position for long and it made a quick pullback to where it is right now at 245. Anyway, we just have to wait and see. Trying to predict the movement will only end up in disappointment.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: zyzzbrah on April 08, 2015, 12:04:28 PM
We going 1000 by the end of the year, get with the program my friends.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: ensurance982 on April 08, 2015, 12:08:52 PM

You actually realize that we're just about to bounce off of that support line, right? We're not out of any reasonable channel as of now. The moon is still on track.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: 8up on April 08, 2015, 01:48:05 PM

You actually realize that we're just about to bounce off of that support line, right? We're not out of any reasonable channel as of now. The moon is still on track.

https://i.imgur.com/2kp8LbA.png

LIN vs. LOG is part of the uncertainty we are in atm. best to position oneself for both possible outcomes.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: afbitcoins on April 08, 2015, 04:08:40 PM
I don't see it happening in April however I do think the breakout will come later this year. Even after that may not be heading straight to the moon though. Patience is required. Accumulate and hodl now then go away and do other things for a couple of years.

Maybe the breakout could look something like this.

https://www.tradingview.com/x/BpdFodnj/


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: SkyValeey on April 08, 2015, 11:11:30 PM
We going 1000 by the end of the year, get with the program my friends.

1000 cny ? Oh yeah!


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: BusyBeaverHP on April 09, 2015, 12:00:43 AM
Op trendlines too optimistic and more importantly, ignores too many data points.

Here's a model showing exponential decay:

https://i.imgur.com/3CVxKmG.png

If we're not trading below 200 in September, then we're out of the bear market  ;)


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: srgkrgkj on April 09, 2015, 08:29:43 AM
personally we can make it out of the bear market alive, bears are loosing their grip :D


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: ensurance982 on April 09, 2015, 01:52:24 PM
I don't see it happening in April however I do think the breakout will come later this year. Even after that may not be heading straight to the moon though. Patience is required. Accumulate and hodl now then go away and do other things for a couple of years.

Maybe the breakout could look something like this.

https://www.tradingview.com/x/BpdFodnj/

I'd totally be fine if our first stop was that upper channel you drew there. It's make-or-break time right now. Still optimistic, though! Never give up, never surrender!


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: ensurance982 on April 09, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
personally we can make it out of the bear market alive, bears are loosing their grip :D

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, as well. It looks like dumps don't really cause that much of a panic anymore, like in February, and the long-term support line holds for now.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Amph on April 09, 2015, 03:34:36 PM
We going 1000 by the end of the year, get with the program my friends.

1000 cny ? Oh yeah!

you are joking but if china come again in play like they did in the 1200 peak, it could rise really fast to 1k again, bear line will be broken in no time

personally we can make it out of the bear market alive, bears are loosing their grip :D

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, as well. It looks like dumps don't really cause that much of a panic anymore, like in February, and the long-term support line holds for now.

because fish are out of the game, with only bears/whales remained you can't really trick that easy their mind, their are not panic seller


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: randy8777 on April 09, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
We going 1000 by the end of the year, get with the program my friends.

you must have bought yourself a huge load of coins if you think it will go up 400% from current price. but i'm 99% sure that you haven't.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Fabrizio89 on April 09, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Enjoy the ride :D Hope you're short on the euro too  ::)


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on April 09, 2015, 07:10:03 PM
There was a bit of a panic with the dump yesterday but there was really good support.
Bears were rejoicing but in the end it was all a bit pathetic.
I think we could climb out of the bear market around June.
They just don't seem to be able to cause much damage lately.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: ensurance982 on April 10, 2015, 11:04:06 AM
There was a bit of a panic with the dump yesterday but there was really good support.
Bears were rejoicing but in the end it was all a bit pathetic.
I think we could climb out of the bear market around June.
They just don't seem to be able to cause much damage lately.

The only positive thing I can take from all these dumps is that their volume is going down with every dump - which is a good sign. But We're still in doom & gloom mode, if you ask me...


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on April 10, 2015, 11:22:15 AM
There was a bit of a panic with the dump yesterday but there was really good support.
Bears were rejoicing but in the end it was all a bit pathetic.
I think we could climb out of the bear market around June.
They just don't seem to be able to cause much damage lately.

The only positive thing I can take from all these dumps is that their volume is going down with every dump - which is a good sign. But We're still in doom & gloom mode, if you ask me...
I agree unfortunately.
There's nowhere near enough big money or new investors pumping in.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: ensurance982 on April 10, 2015, 07:07:02 PM
There was a bit of a panic with the dump yesterday but there was really good support.
Bears were rejoicing but in the end it was all a bit pathetic.
I think we could climb out of the bear market around June.
They just don't seem to be able to cause much damage lately.

The only positive thing I can take from all these dumps is that their volume is going down with every dump - which is a good sign. But We're still in doom & gloom mode, if you ask me...
I agree unfortunately.
There's nowhere near enough big money or new investors pumping in.

No, the dumping is just merely caused by the possibility of shorting, actually. Once we've found the true bottom or leave the long-term downtrend, we'll go up again. Bears will turn to bulls!


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: BitcoinNewbie15 on April 11, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
I think we will cross the bear line in 2015. I dont know for sure, but if we do, i dont think we will for long. However, i could be completely wrong.


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: tokeweed on April 11, 2015, 06:10:42 PM
I think we will cross the bear line in 2015. I dont know for sure, but if we do, i dont think we will for long. However, i could be completely wrong.

Very concrete analysis.

https://pitchenginelive.blob.core.windows.net/dev/2d4b263e-c5f8-420a-bfb3-3dad04c10b20/3a128c28-0a38-4c9f-8c44-556ba729d156.JPG


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Natalia_AnatolioPAMM on April 12, 2015, 07:02:12 PM
I think price will go below $200 again.

and will stay there for a while


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on April 12, 2015, 07:07:52 PM

Miniscule volume and repeated failed attemps at 300 speaks against this, but alas, if I am wrong shame on me, breakout is plausible (if unlikely at this moment).


Title: Re: Will we cross the bearline in April?
Post by: pereira4 on April 12, 2015, 11:12:58 PM
I think we will cross the bear line in 2015. I dont know for sure, but if we do, i dont think we will for long. However, i could be completely wrong.

Very concrete analysis.

https://pitchenginelive.blob.core.windows.net/dev/2d4b263e-c5f8-420a-bfb3-3dad04c10b20/3a128c28-0a38-4c9f-8c44-556ba729d156.JPG

That's like "ways to store wealth before Bitcoin was invented" / "ways to store wealth after Bitcoin was invented".