Title: The shakedown Post by: notme on August 17, 2012, 07:51:31 PM Scared yet? Then sell. We don't want you when this turns back around.
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: wachtwoord on August 17, 2012, 07:54:29 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now.
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: fcmatt on August 17, 2012, 07:55:29 PM Scared yet? Then sell. We don't want you when this turns back around. lol the only one who sounds scared is the OP with that type of post. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: waspoza on August 17, 2012, 07:55:37 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Same here. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: phorensic on August 17, 2012, 07:55:50 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Then why are you in the speculation forum?Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: Yuhfhrh on August 17, 2012, 07:56:35 PM I'M FREAKIN' OUT GUYS !!!
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: waspoza on August 17, 2012, 07:56:46 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Then why are you in the speculation forum?I love rockets. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: mjsbuddha on August 17, 2012, 07:56:50 PM sold at $15. I'm good thanks. we will see how low it goes and I'll buy again. ;D
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: proudhon on August 17, 2012, 07:58:51 PM I sort a wish I had my bitcoins on an exchange right now...but, nah, I'll keep them safe in a offline wallet. Have fun guys!
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: ElectricMucus on August 17, 2012, 07:59:27 PM Isn't nature beautiful?
http://cdn2.arkive.org/media/E0/E09C591B-C960-4586-8025-003AE3CC879A/Presentation.Large/Slender-billed-vulture-feeding-on-carcass.jpg Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: salty on August 17, 2012, 08:00:13 PM I sort a wish I had my bitcoins on an exchange right now...but, nah, I'll keep them safe in a offline wallet. Have fun guys! I just bought in 2 hours ago *facepalm.gif* Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: gbl08ma on August 17, 2012, 08:01:26 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. +1Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: mjsbuddha on August 17, 2012, 08:01:35 PM aaaaaaaaaand electricmucus kills my buzz...
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: notme on August 17, 2012, 08:01:45 PM I sort a wish I had my bitcoins on an exchange right now...but, nah, I'll keep them safe in a offline wallet. Have fun guys! I just bought in 2 hours ago *facepalm.gif* You'll be fine. Just tuck them away somewhere safe for a few weeks. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: Yuhfhrh on August 17, 2012, 08:02:38 PM I sort a wish I had my bitcoins on an exchange right now...but, nah, I'll keep them safe in a offline wallet. Have fun guys! I just bought in 2 hours ago *facepalm.gif* You'll be fine. Just tuck them away somewhere safe for a few weeks. Or sell at buy back at $X.XX >.< Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: waspoza on August 17, 2012, 08:03:41 PM I sort a wish I had my bitcoins on an exchange right now...but, nah, I'll keep them safe in a offline wallet. Have fun guys! I just bought in 2 hours ago *facepalm.gif* No worries, it will rebound after this transfer from weak to strong hands. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: wachtwoord on August 17, 2012, 08:04:02 PM Weeks? Investment horizons should be 10 years at the least, except if your old or dying. Markets are irrational, it takes a potentially long time for value and price to converge.
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: SaintFlow on August 17, 2012, 08:04:26 PM I'M FREAKIN' OUT GUYS !!! Stay calm and breath slowly. If necessary sit on the ground. Realize that the world and the people you love are still here. If you used more money the you can loose than learn your lesson. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: smracer on August 17, 2012, 08:04:36 PM I can smell the panic. What is wrong with you people?
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: salty on August 17, 2012, 08:04:42 PM I sort a wish I had my bitcoins on an exchange right now...but, nah, I'll keep them safe in a offline wallet. Have fun guys! I just bought in 2 hours ago *facepalm.gif* You'll be fine. Just tuck them away somewhere safe for a few weeks. Well I was going to put them in a BTC&ST passthrough.... (j/k) Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: ElectricMucus on August 17, 2012, 08:06:30 PM aaaaaaaaaand electricmucus kills my buzz... cheers 8)Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: Le Happy Merchant on August 17, 2012, 08:33:38 PM I can smell the panic. What is wrong with you people? I can't understand why anyone would be selling right now, all they are doing is dragging the price down harder, there is no logical reason the price is actually so low, except that somebody with big pockets is shaking them out. Then again, there was no good reason the price hit $15.40 on mtgox and $17 on bitfloor, I think most people who are selling right now must be taking a loss though, and its a loss they don't need to take, and that they pass it on to others. Considering the speed the price is falling at, as I type it will probably hit below 10.30, people aren't just dumping, they are undercutting massively on each wave. My demand for more coins is only hampered by the wait time on my dwolla account, in 4 days when I can buy coins, I will reap the benefits of panic. I value my bitcoins the same now as I did a few hours ago, because I am still holding the same amount of them, the people that sell will end up holding less money, and fewer coins. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: notme on August 17, 2012, 08:42:37 PM I can smell the panic. What is wrong with you people? I can't understand why anyone would be selling right now, all they are doing is dragging the price down harder, there is no logical reason the price is actually so low, except that somebody with big pockets is shaking them out. Then again, there was no good reason the price hit $15.40 on mtgox and $17 on bitfloor, I think most people who are selling right now must be taking a loss though, and its a loss they don't need to take, and that they pass it on to others. Considering the speed the price is falling at, as I type it will probably hit below 10.30, people aren't just dumping, they are undercutting massively on each wave. My demand for more coins is only hampered by the wait time on my dwolla account, in 4 days when I can buy coins, I will reap the benefits of panic. I value my bitcoins the same now as I did a few hours ago, because I am still holding the same amount of them, the people that sell will end up holding less money, and fewer coins. Newbies will be newbies. It takes time to trust the system and the market exploits this. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: thezerg on August 17, 2012, 08:51:31 PM I think a lot of people were 100% in. In that situation it makes sense to lock in some profits and get some fiat in case there's an opportunity to pick up some really cheap coins... For example I went to 90% BTC / 10% USD, at about 2 dollars profit per coin. Especially since you might not be able to get the USD to the exchange in time to take advantage of a crash...
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: The-Real-Link on August 17, 2012, 09:16:45 PM For not being an economics expert, it seems that things will always naturally correct themselves, though. The sharp dip was surprising, but I figure that people are also seeing it as a great opportunity to pick up coins at a (relatively) low price not seen in the past month or two.
I'm not worried overall, but I can understand why a lot of newbies and general BTC fans would panic with this much of a price change so fast. Within but an hour or so it looks like it's almost cancelled itself out. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: zby on August 17, 2012, 09:23:58 PM My bet is that the real shakedown will be tomorrow.
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: notme on August 17, 2012, 09:25:49 PM My bet is that the real shakedown will be tomorrow. Possibly. We may have another day or two of confidence busting before the uptrend resumes. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: adamstgBit on August 17, 2012, 09:40:30 PM I'M FREAKIN' OUT GUYS !!! :D you bought at 15, sold at 13, right? Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: Yuhfhrh on August 17, 2012, 09:42:05 PM I'M FREAKIN' OUT GUYS !!! :D you bought at 15, sold at 13, right? Bought at 15, sold at 13.50, bought at 11, sold at 12.20 >.< Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: Fray on August 17, 2012, 11:34:00 PM Weeks? Investment horizons should be 10 years at the least, except if your old or dying. Markets are irrational, it takes a potentially long time for value and price to converge. Forgot which forum you're in?Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: Piper67 on August 18, 2012, 02:53:14 AM If this is a pirate-induced shakedown, it makes sense that it should continue throughout the weekend. Assuming he's got the fiat on hand, he can keep dumping, then buying more on the way up. But, if some smart souls out there had sent their fiat to the exchanges in anticipation of the "weekend dip", it could end up being a costly proposition for pirates ;D
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: giszmo on August 18, 2012, 03:42:23 AM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Same here. You are neither "all in" nor in the right forum. If you are all in, tell me how you pay your bills. If you speculate, you arbitrage other people's panic and lend your coins to panic buyers to buy them back from panic sellers. Seams to me you two are pussies ;) Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: chsados on August 18, 2012, 04:05:25 AM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Same here. You are neither "all in" nor in the right forum. If you are all in, tell me how you pay your bills. If you speculate, you arbitrage other people's panic and lend your coins to panic buyers to buy them back from panic sellers. Seams to me you two are pussies ;) Perhaps by "All in" these people meant all the money they can set aside while taking care of bills..... yes i know-thinking logically hurts! Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: niko on August 18, 2012, 04:17:46 AM I'M FREAKIN' OUT GUYS !!! :D you bought at 15, sold at 13, right? Bought at 15, sold at 13.50, bought at 11, sold at 12.20 >.< Think of it as paying the tuition. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: wachtwoord on August 18, 2012, 08:34:17 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Same here. You are neither "all in" nor in the right forum. If you are all in, tell me how you pay your bills. If you speculate, you arbitrage other people's panic and lend your coins to panic buyers to buy them back from panic sellers. Seams to me you two are pussies ;) Where did I claim to be all in? I meant exactly what I said. I am a buy and hold investor and I wait for my investment to appreciate based on it rising to its actual value and the underlying Business (in this case the Bitcoin economy) growing. I think Bitcoin is my only invesment that is almost completely based on growth while my other investmets are maily value. Speculating is a zero sum game. Enjoy yourselves hough :) Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: befuddled on August 18, 2012, 09:48:55 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Then why are you in the speculation forum?When I was mining for bitcoins at a dollar loss, and said I was saving them for the day when they were worth more, we were told we were speculating on the value of bitcoin. And now we're told holding them long term is not speculation. You haters make up your mind already why dontcha? Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: thezerg on August 18, 2012, 11:09:14 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Same here. You are neither "all in" nor in the right forum. If you are all in, tell me how you pay your bills. If you speculate, you arbitrage other people's panic and lend your coins to panic buyers to buy them back from panic sellers. Seams to me you two are pussies ;) Certainly "all in" in this context means all the $ you have allocated for investment in bitcoin. If you put 100% of your net worth into this high risk investment to the point that a correction is going to put you out starving on the street you are a freakin' idiot :-). Cheers! Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: ElectricMucus on August 18, 2012, 11:17:46 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Then why are you in the speculation forum?When I was mining for bitcoins at a dollar loss, and said I was saving them for the day when they were worth more, we were told we were speculating on the value of bitcoin. And now we're told holding them long term is not speculation. You haters make up your mind already why dontcha? Buying the same amount would have resulted in greater profit. There is nothing you can do about that since it is the truth, now get out please. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: dree12 on August 18, 2012, 11:19:06 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Then why are you in the speculation forum?When I was mining for bitcoins at a dollar loss, and said I was saving them for the day when they were worth more, we were told we were speculating on the value of bitcoin. And now we're told holding them long term is not speculation. You haters make up your mind already why dontcha? Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: bitarrow on August 18, 2012, 11:22:17 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Then why are you in the speculation forum?When I was mining for bitcoins at a dollar loss, and said I was saving them for the day when they were worth more, we were told we were speculating on the value of bitcoin. And now we're told holding them long term is not speculation. You haters make up your mind already why dontcha? Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: dree12 on August 18, 2012, 11:23:57 PM I never exchanged a Bitcoin for fiat in my life and don't plan to start now. Then why are you in the speculation forum?When I was mining for bitcoins at a dollar loss, and said I was saving them for the day when they were worth more, we were told we were speculating on the value of bitcoin. And now we're told holding them long term is not speculation. You haters make up your mind already why dontcha? Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: thezerg on August 18, 2012, 11:29:00 PM possibly he had already bought the mining equipment. At that point there is very little choice. Unless you think "dollar loss" means that operating expenses > BTC mined...
Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: befuddled on August 19, 2012, 02:14:31 AM Buying the same amount would have resulted in greater profit. Which would be true, except part of the cost was sunk. And irrelevant to the point, which is whether holding bitcoins long term in expectation of their appreciation is speculation or not. Which was the matter to which I was replying. There is nothing you can do about that since it is the truth I am a true believer, willing to "sacrifice" for the cause. now get out please. No you get out, please. Title: Re: The shakedown Post by: ruski on August 19, 2012, 04:54:37 AM I am a true believer, willing to "sacrifice" for the cause. http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSr7OO7DrU4raH-sHes_fDPvxyIgIivtLJZtWKa1sUm_C-PlajA9g Quote Main Entry: gullible Part of Speech: adjective Definition: naive, trusting Synonyms: being a sucker, believing, biting, credulous, easily taken in, easy mark, falling hook line and sinker, foolish, green*, innocent, kidding oneself, mark*, silly, simple, sucker , susceptible, swallowing whole, taken in, taking the bait, trustful, tumbling for, unskeptical, unsophisticated, unsuspecting, wide-eyed |