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Title: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: mantaxer on April 09, 2015, 03:05:03 PM
The Polish Cybercrime Unit based in Krakow have announced the arrest of a 28-year old man in connection with the theft of around 85,000 PLN from Polish Bitcoin exchange BitMarket.pl

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32033a/bitmarket_thief_arrested_by_polish_cybercrime_unit/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32033a/bitmarket_thief_arrested_by_polish_cybercrime_unit/)


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on April 09, 2015, 03:13:30 PM
now they can hunt Josh Garza and Mark K  :D


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: EvilPanda on April 09, 2015, 03:30:23 PM
They are a good exchange, I remember every time they were in trouble the owner covered everything with his own money. The article also lacks details, like the fact that they quickly found a new bank to cover the withdrawals and the site is fully functional. I hope now that the thief has been caught the funds can be recovered.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: SpanishSoldier on April 09, 2015, 03:37:13 PM
The Polish Cybercrime Unit based in Krakow have announced the arrest of a 28-year old man in connection with the theft of around 85,000 PLN from Polish Bitcoin exchange BitMarket.pl

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32033a/bitmarket_thief_arrested_by_polish_cybercrime_unit/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32033a/bitmarket_thief_arrested_by_polish_cybercrime_unit/)

So, the owner is not the thief in this case...


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 09, 2015, 03:37:50 PM
They are a good exchange, I remember every time they were in trouble the owner covered everything with his own money. The article also lacks details, like the fact that they quickly found a new bank to cover the withdrawals and the site is fully functional. I hope now that the thief has been caught the funds can be recovered.

The funds might be returned if found because it didn't happen in the USA. If that happened in the U.S. the recovered funds would be stolen by the government and never returned.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: manfred on April 09, 2015, 04:08:07 PM
wounder if same scums where operating BitMarket.eu and then gambled away customer funds
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg5344257#msg5344257 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg5344257#msg5344257)


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: allthingsluxury on April 09, 2015, 04:56:16 PM
Always good news, hopefully this will deter some future criminal activities, but I doubt it  :-\


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: EvilPanda on April 10, 2015, 11:01:36 AM
wounder if same scums where operating BitMarket.eu and then gambled away customer funds
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg5344257#msg5344257 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg5344257#msg5344257)

AFAIK no, these 2 companies are not the same. Bitmarket.pl is operated by this guy: https://www.facebook.com/michal.pleban


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: Purple Wayne on April 10, 2015, 11:11:21 AM
Hmm. I wonder how they caught him it doesn't say in the article. I think actually catching bitcoin criminals is rare due to the nature of it but they usually slip up when they try sell the coins for fiat or launder them in other ways like that darknet owner got busted for after he scammed his users.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: BillyBobZorton on April 10, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
now they can hunt Josh Garza and Mark K  :D
Mark Karpeles is the master Thieft, they can't get him. If they didn't get him now, when will they? im still waiting for something to happen and I didn't even lost any money on it.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: barrymatas on April 10, 2015, 04:10:35 PM
Always good news, hopefully this will deter some future criminal activities, but I doubt it  :-\

Out of a 100 bankrobbers around 90(approx) are caught, out of 10 bitcoin hacks only 1 is caught, so I doubt a bitcoin hacker being caught would deter people from doing it in the future .


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: lucullus on April 10, 2015, 04:16:33 PM
Excellent


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: Hazir on April 10, 2015, 04:28:34 PM
Hmm. I wonder how they caught him it doesn't say in the article. I think actually catching bitcoin criminals is rare due to the nature of it but they usually slip up when they try sell the coins for fiat or launder them in other ways like that darknet owner got busted for after he scammed his users.
It was probably the same with this thief. Recently some Czech guy creator, manager and admin of Dark Markt in Czech turned to be fraudster who grabbed bitcoins of users was caught when trying to buy a house for stolen bitcoins, he transferred money to his girlfriend account and it did not help him. I see the light in the tunnel when I read that more and more bitcoin thieves are being caught by the police!


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 10, 2015, 05:19:36 PM
Good. I really hope that more and more Bitcoin thieves will get caught. This news comes after the capture of Tomáš Jiřikovský a few days ago. He was the one who committed the 2nd largest Bitcoin robbery in the world (Sheep Marketplace). Now we can hope that the biggest Bitcoin thief Mark Karpelès will be arrested and the stolen coins will be returned to its rightful owners.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: Cryptowatch.com on April 10, 2015, 05:39:43 PM
The Polish Cybercrime Unit based in Krakow have announced the arrest of a 28-year old man in connection with the theft of around 85,000 PLN from Polish Bitcoin exchange BitMarket.pl

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32033a/bitmarket_thief_arrested_by_polish_cybercrime_unit/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32033a/bitmarket_thief_arrested_by_polish_cybercrime_unit/)

I most suprised they actually have a cybercrime unit in Poland.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: gentlemand on April 10, 2015, 06:09:47 PM
The Polish Cybercrime Unit based in Krakow have announced the arrest of a 28-year old man in connection with the theft of around 85,000 PLN from Polish Bitcoin exchange BitMarket.pl

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32033a/bitmarket_thief_arrested_by_polish_cybercrime_unit/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32033a/bitmarket_thief_arrested_by_polish_cybercrime_unit/)

I most suprised they actually have a cybercrime unit in Poland.

It's just like anywhere else in Western Europe these days. Actually I was rather annoyed by that. It wasn't foreign enough for my liking.

Considering the combo of blockchain analysis and the necessity to cash it out via exchanges, I'm pretty surprised there aren't more thieves who've been nailed to the wall. No doubt it'll become harder in the years to come to get away with it.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: Cryptowatch.com on April 10, 2015, 06:56:31 PM
Poland can into Bitcoin.

From venturing into Poland not too long ago, picture me unimpressed, but they've probably improved a lot the last decades, I'd give them that. Still they have a long way to go.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: ebliever on April 10, 2015, 08:36:43 PM
Hmm. I wonder how they caught him it doesn't say in the article. I think actually catching bitcoin criminals is rare due to the nature of it but they usually slip up when they try sell the coins for fiat or launder them in other ways like that darknet owner got busted for after he scammed his users.
It was probably the same with this thief. Recently some Czech guy creator, manager and admin of Dark Markt in Czech turned to be fraudster who grabbed bitcoins of users was caught when trying to buy a house for stolen bitcoins, he transferred money to his girlfriend account and it did not help him. I see the light in the tunnel when I read that more and more bitcoin thieves are being caught by the police!

I expect this will be true over time. Thieves will learn the hard way it is difficult to _perfectly_ cover your tracks in an ecosystem where every transfer is logged. Forever. And available to every sleuth. With a bank robber, if he hasn't been caught in six months he can probably breathe a little easier. Not so with bitcoin.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: TheButterZone on April 10, 2015, 08:47:10 PM
They are a good exchange, I remember every time they were in trouble the owner covered everything with his own money. The article also lacks details, like the fact that they quickly found a new bank to cover the withdrawals and the site is fully functional. I hope now that the thief has been caught the funds can be recovered.

The funds might be returned if found because it didn't happen in the USA. If that happened in the U.S. the recovered funds would be stolen by the government and never returned.

Heh.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: SpanishSoldier on April 10, 2015, 09:33:36 PM
now they can hunt Josh Garza and Mark K  :D

Mark K was arrested too. Nothing happened. If u have not done anything against the state, state has nothing against u. Ross Ulbricht & Charlie Shrem tried to defy the state. They are now jailed.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: pawel7777 on April 10, 2015, 09:46:32 PM

That's new:

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Working from a tip off, the Cybercrime Unit began tracking the perpetrator and subsequently arrested computer scientist ‘Raphael W’ – who according to the police manipulated the BitMarket software to illegally withdraw around 85,000 Zloty or £15,000 Sterling.

if I get this right, he didn't steal any bitcoins, but found a way to withdraw fiat money (PLN) that didn't belong to him?

That's rather unusual for BTC exchange hack.

If that's correct, it was probably way easier for the cops to trace the money.


AFAIK no, these 2 companies are not the same. Bitmarket.pl is operated by this guy: https://www.facebook.com/michal.pleban

Always wondered, is this guy and "Bitmar" (admin @ forum.bitcoin.pl) the same person?


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: lucullus on April 10, 2015, 10:12:22 PM
the only bad thing about bitcoin is the felons


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: gentlemand on April 10, 2015, 10:20:56 PM
the only bad thing about bitcoin is the felons

And sadly they will never be far away. If you'd asked a scumbag ten years ago what the perfect vehicle for enriching themselves would be, something like Bitcoin would've popped out of their slobbering mouths.

It'll take a much brighter public, or plenty of bulletproof middle men for it to become a trusted option.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: leopard2 on April 10, 2015, 11:01:05 PM
Excellent news! wonder if Tokyo police could get some support from them?  ;D


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: majeis on April 10, 2015, 11:13:51 PM
the only bad thing about bitcoin is the felons

History is made by extremists as well as moderates.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 11, 2015, 04:14:52 AM
now they can hunt Josh Garza and Mark K  :D

Mark K was arrested too. Nothing happened. If u have not done anything against the state, state has nothing against u. Ross Ulbricht & Charlie Shrem tried to defy the state. They are now jailed.

Mark K did the exact opposite of what Ross Ulbricht & Charlie Shrem did. The latter tried to popularize the crypto-currency, defying the state and the banking cartels. The former tried to destroy the crypto, by damaging its reputation, thereby aiding the banking cartel.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: Cruxer on April 11, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
now they can hunt Josh Garza and Mark K  :D
I wish it could be that simple :)
Respect to Polish Cybercrime Unit, Bitcoin is quite new and they managed to operate in its borders


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: darby on April 11, 2015, 11:55:47 AM
now they can hunt Josh Garza and Mark K  :D
I wish it could be that simple :)
Respect to Polish Cybercrime Unit, Bitcoin is quite new and they managed to operate in its borders

Someone scammed me out of 2.8 BTC for an asic advertised here on adsense. I would sure love to see that back!


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: Lauda on April 11, 2015, 11:59:35 AM

Someone scammed me out of 2.8 BTC for an asic advertised here on adsense. I would sure love to see that back!
I don't think that you're going to see them hunt your guy. You'd have to be the one who will start the investigation. You'd need real ID, proof and then you just sue the man.

Anyhow I'm glad to see some people are finally getting arrested. These scams are getting out of hand. Someone has to start taking down the bad guys before more innocent people get hurt in the meantime.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: 2double0 on April 11, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
now they can hunt Josh Garza and Mark K  :D

They seem to be an old show now, but yeah these thieves must definitely be caught in order to prove everyone (esp. scammers) that they can't get away this easy even in Bitcoin Tale.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: celebreze32 on April 11, 2015, 02:38:06 PM
now they can hunt Josh Garza and Mark K  :D

They seem to be an old show now, but yeah these thieves must definitely be caught in order to prove everyone (esp. scammers) that they can't get away this easy even in Bitcoin Tale.

Mark K might have done a deal with the Feds to get off the hook by dropping Pirate in it, I'm hoping the Japanese weren't involved in any deal and go after him instead.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: Ron~Popeil on April 12, 2015, 02:57:57 AM
I am still waiting for them to catch the bitcoin trader bastards. They dealt in fiat as well so it should not be that difficult to find them. Scammers and theives are the biggest threat to bitcoin by a wide margin.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: Amph on April 12, 2015, 07:13:30 AM
I am still waiting for them to catch the bitcoin trader bastards. They dealt in fiat as well so it should not be that difficult to find them. Scammers and theives are the biggest threat to bitcoin by a wide margin.

i want to add that it's more of a incompetence of the average user, that don't know how to protct their wallet, many don't even run antivirus, or they download too many shit on their machine

thieves would have an harder time if people knew how to use their pc better


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: gentlemand on April 12, 2015, 12:15:07 PM

i want to add that it's more of a incompetence of the average user, that don't know how to protct their wallet, many don't even run antivirus, or they download too many shit on their machine

thieves would have an harder time if people knew how to use their pc better

But if we go for the largest bitcoin losses - the inputs wallet, bitcoin savings and trust, gox, numerous dark markets - it had nothing to do with bad pc security and everything to do with being gullible and not applying due diligence.

You can have the securest computer ever, but it counts for nothing if the coins are handed over willingly by people who should know better.


Title: Re: BitMarket Thief Arrested By Polish Cybercrime Unit
Post by: manfred on April 12, 2015, 02:19:59 PM

i want to add that it's more of a incompetence of the average user, that don't know how to protct their wallet, many don't even run antivirus, or they download too many shit on their machine

thieves would have an harder time if people knew how to use their pc better

But if we go for the largest bitcoin losses - the inputs wallet, bitcoin savings and trust, gox, numerous dark markets - it had nothing to do with bad pc security and everything to do with being gullible and not applying due diligence.

You can have the securest computer ever, but it counts for nothing if the coins are handed over willingly by people who should know better.
so true