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The 3,300-square-foot home on Escondito Circle belonged to Esam Ghazzawi, a Saudi adviser to the nephew of then-King Fahd. But at the time, it was occupied by his daughter and son-in-law, who beat a hasty retreat back to Saudi Arabia just two weeks before the attacks after nearly a six-year stay here.

Neighbors took note of the troubling coincidence and called the FBI, which opened an investigation that led to the startling discovery that at least one “family member” trained at the same flight school as some of the 9/11 hijackers in nearby Venice, Fla.

The investigation into the prominent Saudi family’s ties to the hijackers started on Sept. 19, 2001, and remained active for several years. It was led by the FBI’s Tampa field office but also involved the bureau’s field offices in New York and Washington, and also the Southwest Florida Domestic Security Task Force.

Agents identified persons of interest in the case, establishing their ties to other terrorists, sympathies with Osama bin Laden and anti-American remarks. They looked into their bank accounts, colleges and places of employment. They tracked at least one suspect’s re-entry into the US.



http://nypost.com/2015/04/12/saudi-role-in-911-being-whitewashed-by-fbi/

Leave the Saudi, even own US people were behind 9/11. There are so much evidences to prove that in public domain.

Even if it was Saudi Arabia, the US needs the Saudis more as an ally than an enemy. They will probably wait until nobody speaks about this story so people will forget.

I shall not.

Haven't anyone of you not watched the zeitgeist documentary. In the documentary, they have showed how 9/11 was setup by US people on US soil.

Let's see for how long things will remain like that between the two. Just because KSA and the USA is having the same enemies (Russia, Iran), that doesn't mean that in future things will be warm and cosy.

No but USA is really very powerful and it can bow down to any level to achieve its goal.
And if they are doing it right now then there might be some hidden interest in that. Let's wait n watch.
Time will tell.

The 9/11 operation involved various parties doing various parts of the job.  The best explanation I've heard is that elements from Saudi Arabia had the basic responsibility of cultivating some patsies, but not much more.

As you say, there is a LOT of evidence in the public domain implicating the event as a false flag.  All one really needs is to watch the bldg 7 implosion, but there is so very much more.  To much in fact.  A hypothesis I like is that there had to be so much in order to make it crystal clear to the media where things would be headed in order to discourage them from investigating things at all.  And it worked like a champ!

Yes even the twin tower explosion, the buildings collapsed so perfectly and smoothly, that the structural expert who demolish buildings for living, have perfectly proved that it was not possible without using explosive that explode with perfect timings so that building collapse on it's foundation and not damage the other surrounding structures.

Building 7 was a classic controlled demolition.  No mystery there.  For quite a while a lot of people including myself could not tell quite what happened with the twin towers.  It is beyond absurd in a bunch of ways to conceive of any form of structural failure or collapse producing the observed effects, but nanothermite was not widely known about.  When someone put that together it all fell into place a lot better.  The substance is not used in building demolition, and the twin towers were an unusual design so there is not precedent to be called upon, but a lot of the oddities of the event seem to be possibly explained by the use of nanothermite in one capacity or another.  The internal structure was almost certainly sawed apart with conventional thermite, and there seems to have been a place for what were most likely shaped charges as well.  I've got on vid which is a collection of the many people who reported many explosions before the building feel.  Mostly interviews on-site at the time.  All of these reports got sucked into the memory hole with an explanation that they were lights popping or some such nonsense.

I got to play with conventional thermite a little bit in the army.  Great stuff!

Unreacted nanothermite was reportedly found (everywhere in fact) and studied relatively extensively.  Harrit et-al's paper 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe' is a worthwhile read.  I've not really run across any convincing rebuttals to the actual science of their findings.

IMO building 7 was done just to see how easily they could fool the completely retarded public.  IMO only .1% of the public ever have the balls to question their leaders.  People love being slaves, LOVE it, like absoutly love being a slave.

C'mon, Wilikon. Be reasonable. Everybody knows that it is the FBI that is slyly helping the people to think that 9/11 was an inside job.

 :D

Few people saw the vids of bldg 7's implosion.  Few people will even look at it.  Of those who do, not everyone will understand what they are seeing.  Even the most basic aspects of structural engineering and basic physical science are beyond most people's grasp.

If a person is disposed to trust the government (and most people are) they will be disposed to accept at face value assertions that there are 'scientific' explanations for the structure's collapse absent a classic controlled demolition.  The designers of the event were aware of this.

Again, I find it most convincing that there had to be a fair amount information implicating the event as a false flag, and especially implicating various specific  participants, and it had to be widely disseminated.  One cannot just 'send a memo' around.  It would be leaked and published and would constitute evidence that would be genuinely difficult to ignore.  The widespread leakage of secondary evidence of insider involvement was the communication mechanism letting the mainstream media know that it was a path which they did not want to find the end-point of.

Plenty of people from all walks of life know with reasonable precision what happened on 9/11 and why.  Did it have a negative impact on our policy makers?  Not in the slightest.

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I don't think that most people 'love being slaves', but more that they know no other option.  Indeed, they really have no other option.  Beyond that, up until this time being a 'slave', or more charitably a part of a herd or flock on a people-farm, does indeed provide a better 'quality of life' than the alternative.  Our peers may not understand this specifically but they sense it intuitively (and again, probably correctly.)  A chicken in a chicken farm has a tolerable life and know no other.  They have plenty to eat and a roof to keep the rain off.  Their troubles come when they get to old to lay eggs at an acceptable rate.

Actually, people have other options.

Bitcoin is the way that we can live and trade when...

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I have knowledge of structural engineering, I have seen the videos, and see no problem with the collapse being a side effect of the towers, eg domino effects of column 76 going down.  Such domino effects are what is USED in controlled demolition, but that does not make it a fact that any domino effect in a building collapse is a controlled demolition.

And I don't trust the government.

But saying "I don't trust government" one has to note that there are many governments, each with it's own objectives, not just the US.   

Spendulus. I almost can't believe that you are saying this.

There is some slim chance that one of the Towers could come down the way that they did, sort of naturally. But both of them is stretching the odds all out of shape.

If Building 7 came down as a result of the things that happened with the Towers, rather than by controlled demolition, everyone who is in any of the big buildings in that area is in danger.

If Building 7 came down through the little bit of debris that flew off the Towers and hit it, then it was built entirely structurally unsound. And if it was built unsound, then all the buildings in the area that were built similarly are unsound. People should get out and run for their lives. It is only a miracle that ANY of the buildings have lasted as long as they have.

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From http://www.alternet.org/how-bush-administration-covered-saudi-connection-911:
The FBI is covering up for Bush.

:)

Buildings are _always_ way over-designed.  In order to demo any building one first weakens the hell out of them by cutting away a huge amount of material either as prep work for the pull or via a carefully timed sequence.  Normally both.  Nobody can tell me that a 40 story building in the middle of NY city could have such a novice error that a failure of one beam would pull the building into it's own footprint, and at nearly free-fall speed.  That makes zero sense.  Zero!

I don't need an 'expert' to tell me that bldg 7 or the twin towers were demo'd.  It is plain as day just by looking.  But I'm happy to have confirmation from experts in the field (http://www.ae911truth.org/gallery/evidence.html).

As always with me, the hypothesis which explains the most observations rises to the top, and the hypothesis that the events of 9/11 were engineered by people with capabilities within the West outweighs the hypothesis that some rag-tag Muslims hiding out in caves half way around the world did it.  Outweighs it by a margin of about 1000/1.

Just like with the climate scams the 'official' people telling us what we are supposed to believe are not keen to share their data.  Why there would be such resistance to showing the visualizations, especially since the failure of the buildings is a fairly unique and unexpected event which should be analyzed in detail for safety reasons, is (or should be) pretty mysterious.  Unless, of course, the data is a bunch of fraudulent bullshit which would would be laughable to qualified analysts.

Also, like the climate scam deal, almost nobody has anything to gain by being on the wrong side of the 'consensus', and a lot to lose.  I can only guess that the reason they do speak up is similar to the reason I do; I hope that by having people be awake and aware of such things we'll not move toward being governed by state-sponsored fraud, deception, and terrorism at such a high rate.

9.11 was inside job, there are many facts pointing to that conclusion. There is too many false statements, broken 'facts' and just wtf moments in this incident. That building collapsed to dust. It is impossible to find anything in that. Just watch this documental: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a36_CwzA0bk