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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: ClownSpider on April 13, 2015, 08:29:10 PM



Title: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: ClownSpider on April 13, 2015, 08:29:10 PM
Hello.
I posted an ad offering web design.
I do not accept jobs asking me to do 5 hours or work for $10.
So I turn some people down.
I also do not trust everyone, espeshally people willing to provide help, or services for FREE.
Why would someone offer to hold your BTC for free?  Because they will STEAL it.
So I NEVER trust "Free escrow".

Now Josef2000 asked me to work for him.
He contacted me.  (He claims that I contacted him, but that is a lie.)

He responded to my web design thread, and even admits in one of his posts that he contacted my and complains that I deleted the thread after he accused me of trying to sell him a script.

I NEVER tried to sell him a "script". 
I never sold him anything.
I never offered to sell him anything. 
NOTHING.

Yet he says "He continues to deny trying to sell me a script."

He posted negative trust on me and started a thread to trash me because I refused to work with him.
He wanted escrow, so I named an escrow with a website.
He wanted me to use his personal friend on the forum as escrow.
I would never trust a random user that was suggested by the person I am dealing with.
They could be Josef2000's other account, or his friend.
Josef2000 is a Sr Member.  So why should I trust other Sr Members when people act like Josef2000.

He did not want to use escrow that I named, I did not want to use escrow that he named.
End of transaction?

Nope.
Now he goes around posting trash about me.
Lying saying that I scammed him?
We had NO business!
Lying saying that I tried to sell him a script?

BAN THIS ASSHOLE

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Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 14, 2015, 03:43:56 AM
just based on what you posted it looks like he turned you down and that's it. What the fuck are you crying about?


Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: EcuaMobi on April 14, 2015, 03:57:03 AM
Normally a very trusted escrow from this forum is far more trustable than a website with automated escrow. But of course common sense must be used. Several trusted members here are kind enough to escrow for free.
What escrow was Josef suggesting? Because he wanted to use an escrow from this forum did you suggest to him another trusted user who does charge an escrow fee?


Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: e-sushi on April 14, 2015, 04:24:25 AM
just based on what you posted it looks like he turned you down and that's it. What the fuck are you crying about?

LOL – you seem to have missed the drama here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990389.0) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940479.0). In short: the guy not only turn him down, he then started accusing OP saying he got scammed by OP. In the end: loads of accusations, but no scam in sight. What can I say? Love the drama but I’m missing the popcorn. ;)


Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: ClownSpider on April 14, 2015, 05:01:30 AM
just based on what you posted it looks like he turned you down and that's it. What the fuck are you crying about?

If you read my post, I did not make a deal with this Josef2000 person because they wanted a "free escrow" and I did not agree to that.
End of transaction.
Good?
Nope, this asshole then started accusing me of scamming him.
He also accused me of attempting to sell him a "script".
And keeps saying "he continues to deny trying to sell me a script" in my trust page.

What script?
I never offered to sell him jack shit.

He has been going around lying about a script I never offered, and claiming SCAM, because I did not do business with him.  That is the problem.


How would anyone else feel if some crazy asshole offered to pay you in worms, and use his buddy as worm escrow?
You decline, and you think that is the end of it?
Then worm boy calls you a scammer and accuses you of trying to sell him a donkey?

What the fuck?
I neer offered to sell him a script
That alone demonstrates the instability of this forum.
Assholes are not banned.
Assholes have "Sr Member" tags.

That is why I would never trust some asshole's "hero" friend claiming to offer an escrow service for FREE within the forum.  A forum with goes offline and crashes regularly.  No way.  People are crazy.
REAL escrow only.


Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: josef2000 on April 14, 2015, 05:08:25 AM
Lol, there are muchmore PMs stating that we will use monbux etc... Please post them too?
I never tried to trade with you? - Then what was the escrow discussion for then with the PM? Not a script? I thought you were a web developer, I didnt want to buy choclate from you, did I?
Want proof that I wanted a script?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=936766.msg10301581#msg10301581
How come that we PMing the next day? 27. January

Lol, everyone trades with a forum escrow here... I dont trust websites that nobody uses ;)
You can ask everybody. Well, I think I offerd to trade with a moderator?!


Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: ClownSpider on April 14, 2015, 05:20:37 AM
Lol, there are muchmore PMs stating that we will use monbux etc... Please post them too?
I never tried to trade with you? Then what was the escrow discussion for then with the PM? Not a script? I thought you were a web developer, I didnt want to buy choclate from you, did I?
Want proof that I wanted a script?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=936766.msg10301581#msg10301581
How come that we PMing the next day? 27. January

You are a fool.
I am a web developer NOT a script seller.
I never tried to sell you anything, not even web development, not even chocolate.
YOU contacted me.  You came to me.  I did not come to you.

Your link is random and has nothing to do with me or any script or chocolate or web development.
What other PMs?  PMs of me telling you that you are a asshole for accusing me of "trying to sell you a script" when I never did?
You wanted me to do something for you, and you wanted to scam me with a fake members "Free" escrow.
I said no.  That ended the deal.
Then you start talking about a thread YOU started, and about some trash you wanted built that has nothing to do with me.
Where is the proof of me offering to sell you a "Script"?
where is this "scam" you are talking about?

I do not care that you wanted a "Script" from OTHER people.
I posted the PMs with you, nobody said anything about a script.
If you wanted a script, good for you.  But you never asked me to sell you a script, and I never offered to sell you a script.
You do not speak very good english.
Is that why you are so rude and confused?

You came to me.
I did not come to you.
I did not ask you to buy from me.
You wanted something from me that I did not care about.
I did not do any business with you.
You accuse me of doing multiple business transactions with you? "Always offering" to you?
I have never done business with you, because you asked to use a "free" friend on the forum as escrow.
This forum is NOT safe, it goes offline.  I do not trust you.   I do not trust anyone you recommend.
I would not trust anyone you recommend for escrow.
So we never had any business.
So fuck off.
I never scammed you so stop saying that.
We never had any business together.


Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: ClownSpider on April 14, 2015, 05:22:27 AM

Lol, everyone trades with a forum escrow here... I dont trust websites that nobody uses ;)
You can ask everybody. Well, I think I offerd to trade with a moderator?!

Everyone?  No.
Not me.  Not a LOT of people.
A website that nobody uses?  lol
You are an idiot if you claim to know what everyone uses and what everyone does.


Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: josef2000 on April 14, 2015, 05:25:54 AM

Lol, everyone trades with a forum escrow here... I dont trust websites that nobody uses ;)
You can ask everybody. Well, I think I offerd to trade with a moderator?!

Everyone?  No.
Not me.  Not a LOT of people.
A website that nobody uses?  lol
You are an idiot if you claim to know what everyone uses and what everyone does.
Well, if you still dont want to admit it. I cant force you to. If you feel right about this then do it
I will quit this discussion.
Then good luck with you trading on this forum :)


Title: Re: josef2000 | LIAR | TROLL | BAN THIS CREEP
Post by: ClownSpider on April 14, 2015, 04:45:17 PM

Lol, everyone trades with a forum escrow here... I dont trust websites that nobody uses ;)
You can ask everybody. Well, I think I offerd to trade with a moderator?!

Everyone?  No.
Not me.  Not a LOT of people.
A website that nobody uses?  lol
You are an idiot if you claim to know what everyone uses and what everyone does.
Well, if you still dont want to admit it. I cant force you to. If you feel right about this then do it
I will quit this discussion.
Then good luck with you trading on this forum :)

You are asking me to "admit" that you speak for EVERYONE on this forum?
You are asking me to believe that NOBODY uses one of the 20 different bitcoin escrow websites that have a REGISTERED owner, real human name, address, customer support, and transparancy?
You think EVERYONE uses some anonymous forum troll as escrow rather than a public company with transparency? 
You idiot.
Your only goal was to lie, slander, and attack a random person that would not agree to your terms.
Then you call me a scammer and claim I tried to sell you a "Script"?
You talk a lot about proof but you have NONE other than you proved you are a liar.

If you are not banned, that is why I would never use a forum member for escrow.
There is no accountability here.