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Title: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: r3wt on April 15, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/evan-duffield-dash-darkcoin-dash-will-position-direct-competitor-bitcoin/

The creator thinks it can


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: PoS on April 15, 2015, 01:49:24 PM
wrong section this should be in the trash section (altcoin).
scams to not compete with bitcoin they get squashed

btw, thinking is better left to horses, they have bigger heads


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: r3wt on April 15, 2015, 01:54:06 PM
wrong section this should be in the trash section (altcoin).
scams to not compete with bitcoin they get squashed

btw, thinking is better left to horses, they have bigger heads

I posted it here for reasons


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: thejaytiesto on April 15, 2015, 02:30:34 PM
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/evan-duffield-dash-darkcoin-dash-will-position-direct-competitor-bitcoin/

The creator thinks it can
Of course the creators are going to think it can. The question is, why would someone use Dash when there is Monero?


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 15, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
I think so!  Dash has as good a chance as any to compete with Bitcoin.

Here's what Dash's creators had to say about their project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: coinpr0n on April 15, 2015, 02:56:06 PM
I don't think so. Bitcoin is competing now for mainstream markets. Dash with mixing/anonymity built in is already a no-go for most suited folks. The way I see it Dash has it's niche.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 15, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
I think so!  Dash has as good a chance as any to compete with Bitcoin.

Here's what Dash's creators had to say about their project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
Well to be fair Dash was Drk and it isn't just another shitcoin.

True indeed.  DASH, DARKCOIN, NXT, CLAMS, LEO, Ripple....all improving upon the original!

Ehh, who am I kidding...they're all the same shit!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a1/4d/b3/a14db3cd1b8462b023f0ef2728c4ca8b.jpg


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: NyeFe on April 15, 2015, 03:04:35 PM
I think so!  Dash has as good a chance as any to compete with Bitcoin.

Here's what Dash's creators had to say about their project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
Well to be fair Dash was Drk and it isn't just another shitcoin.

True indeed.  DASH, DARKCOIN, NXT, CLAMS, LEO, Ripple....all improving upon the original!

Ehh, who am I kidding...they're all the same shit!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a1/4d/b3/a14db3cd1b8462b023f0ef2728c4ca8b.jpg

I am keeping this memo.

Bitcoin is backed by over 500k+ users, developers and investors. How many does DASH have?


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: Snail2 on April 15, 2015, 03:06:29 PM
DASH is more a niche coin then something for mass adoption. It definitely has a market segment where it's more than well suited, but for an average user most of it's features are unnecessary.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: BagHolder010 on April 15, 2015, 03:07:21 PM
I do, it keeps innovating and haters gonna keep on hating just like Bitcoin has haters; nothing wrong with a bit of competition.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: ashour on April 15, 2015, 05:03:12 PM
No way dash can realistically compete with bitcoin. It' like ello trying to compete with facebook, bitcoin  is just too huge and popular that dash could compete. Projects like dark walletw will replace the need of dash and other anonymous coins  and make your bitcoin anonymous and secure.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: GTO911 on April 15, 2015, 05:42:37 PM
Darkcoin/Dash - Horseshit instamine scam with ponzi nodes

Trust your anonymity on third party pyramid nodes

Fools and their money soon part


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: SBOSS on April 15, 2015, 05:53:05 PM
I think so!  Dash has as good a chance as any to compete with Bitcoin.

Here's what Dash's creators had to say about their project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
Well to be fair Dash was Drk and it isn't just another shitcoin.

True indeed.  DASH, DARKCOIN, NXT, CLAMS, LEO, Ripple....all improving upon the original!

Ehh, who am I kidding...they're all the same shit!


I am keeping this memo.

Bitcoin is backed by over 500k+ users, developers and investors. How many does DASH have?

Bitcoin for that reason is pretty sad as a lot of us were lured here through a booming capitalization and/or hype.  Barely anybody is using Bitcoin and no alternate has been successful in even getting 1/10th of their user base.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: generalizethis on April 15, 2015, 07:58:51 PM
Competition is something the Bitcoin community needs to be ready for and it's not exactly from alt coins like Dash but centralized coins from US Fed and IBM, currently we pretty much have a monopoly in the Crypto space and if we push off the future centralized coins like we are with Dash in this thread by joking and GIF's I think there will be a serious issue.

If the centralized coins can create a secure network that doesn't leak sensitive information, they can have Bitcoin's market. I want an asset that is as private and as fungible as a coin--cash isn't even good enough--anything short of this design, the centralized coins can have. Until quantum money is a reality, a centralized coin can't fabricate what I want. The Bitcoin devs chose to not adopt core privacy and now Bitcoin can compete with solutions that offer more of the same. Bitcoin is a gateway, not an end.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: cloudboy on April 15, 2015, 09:41:42 PM
no


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: BitRod on April 16, 2015, 04:32:16 AM
It was a nice try but it will fall to the side like litecoin is doing.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: Oscilson on April 16, 2015, 07:54:25 AM
The cost of Dash is higher as it needs to maintain the master nodes. Monero and other cryptnote coins are also anonymous, they can compete with Dash as well.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: GTO911 on April 16, 2015, 08:39:26 AM
The cost of Dash is higher as it needs to maintain the master nodes. Monero and other cryptnote coins are also anonymous, they can compete with Dash as well.

Can compete? Monero is state of the art cryptography and only gem out of these shitcoins which can garuntee privacy to the mathematical level. Its like yea bitcoin can compete with piggycoin


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: toknormal on April 16, 2015, 09:21:33 AM

Monero is state of the art cryptography...

Pity it's all in the wrong place (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg11035761#msg11035761).



Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: GTO911 on April 16, 2015, 10:03:07 AM
Pity it's all in the wrong place (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg11035761#msg11035761).



Nothing but mumbo jumbo


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: generalizethis on April 16, 2015, 10:03:45 AM

Monero is state of the art cryptography...

Pseudo argument meant to influence/fear-monger the technically challenged.


I'm still trying to figure out if you're brainwashed, paid, or really that stupid.

Monero is backed by math and is public by choice: viewkey.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: toknormal on April 16, 2015, 10:15:03 AM

Monero is backed by math


You can't back money with "math". (Not its value at least).

viewkey.

LoL.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: generalizethis on April 16, 2015, 11:04:49 AM

Monero is backed by math


You can't back x/drk/dash with "math". (Not its privacy at least).

viewkey.

LoL. I don't get what a view-key is so I'll just laugh like a moron.


Your appeals to greed will get you the greedy and good luck with that fair-weather circus when it gets bored and leaves town. As for those who give a shit about privacy, Monero will still be here when they're ready for the best option available.



Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: toknormal on April 16, 2015, 11:10:01 AM

Your appeals to greed will get you the greedy and good luck with that fair-weather circus

It's not an appeal to greed, it's an appeal to sanity.

I don't get what a view-key is so I'll just laugh like a moron.

I most certainly do "get what a view-key is" and it's no more of an auditing tool than a JPEG of my wallet balance is.

Sometimes I think if Cryptonote was in the sun-shade market it'd try and compete by selling "night only" tickets to the beach.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: generalizethis on April 16, 2015, 11:22:48 AM

Your appeals to greed will get you the greedy and good luck with that fair-weather circus

It's not an appeal to greed, it's an appeal to a false choice with the impetus to motivate the fear of loss impulse.

I don't get what a view-key is so I'll just laugh like a moron.

I most certainly do "get what a view-key is" and it's no more of an auditing tool than a JPEG of my wallet balance and transaction history is which is an important distinction to make if I were dumb enough to espouse the belief that somehow x/drk/dsh was somehow more publicly verifiable than Monero when it comes to individual transactions.

Moronic analogy.



Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: SecretsOfCrypto on April 16, 2015, 05:35:04 PM
No chance really. Nothing to make people use it over BTC. The coin that will surpass BTC is one that will have a significant real world use to the users, driving people to use it.  DASH is just an overhyped coin claiming to have such great innovation when really its not any better than any other coin.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: dadon on April 17, 2015, 08:02:25 AM
no but this can
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Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: Spoetnik on April 17, 2015, 08:57:33 PM
wrong section this should be in the trash section (altcoin).
scams to not compete with bitcoin they get squashed

btw, thinking is better left to horses, they have bigger heads
No I think this is a fair argument, it is definitely the only coin that could try currently.

1.It has a good name Dash - digital cash
2. It has built in anonymity
3. It has built in mixing
4. Instant Transfer - good for micro purchases and real world scenarios where the merchant isn't 100% familiar with confirmation time
5. Masternodes have a reason to have full nodes and the instant TX.
6. No giant mines and centralization of hashrate.


Litecoin was the only other expected to really coexist and it doesn't have nearly the features and DASH will be more used by the Darknet so harder to kill off.

useless garbage except for fast transfers and many coins can boast that so your reason falls flat on it's face.
so called anon crap is just that pure crap..
it's marketing bs for morons who know little about PC security.
your anon garbage can be exploited now and forever..
the best saying I heard on the web is "if it runs it can be cracked" and it's true !
quote from Markus-THJM cracker legend

but hey don't mind me let the pedo's traffic their child porn etc with a false sense of security while the fed's laugh all the way to your door  :D

good name ? mmmmmm hhhhhmmmm  ::)

edit:
@dadon, thanks for the massive wall of crap too my scroll-wheel needed a work out LOL


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: YarkoL on April 17, 2015, 09:17:56 PM

useless garbage except for fast transfers and many coins can boast that so your reason falls flat on it's face.
so called anon crap is just that pure crap..
it's marketing bs for morons who know little about PC security.
your anon garbage can be exploited now and forever..
the best saying I heard on the web is "if it runs it can be cracked" and it's true !
quote from Markus-THJM cracker legend

but hey don't mind me let the pedo's traffic their child porn etc with a false sense of security while the fed's laugh all the way to your door  :D

good name ? mmmmmm hhhhhmmmm  ::)

edit:
@dadon, thanks for the massive wall of crap too my scroll-wheel needed a work out LOL

Ah, springtime. Birds chirpin', trees bloomin', Spoetnik rantin'...

Now I know things here are going to take a turn for better  ;D


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: helloeverybody on April 17, 2015, 10:19:23 PM
Im confused, i thought dash died a few weeks ago, the dev went awol or something?


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: dannygroove on April 18, 2015, 12:11:40 AM
Not in the foreseeable future imo, but it is a developing project that has active dev community.. If I only had a crystal ball.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: qwizzie on April 18, 2015, 03:31:12 PM
OP : Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin ?

My thoughts : Dash could compete with bitcoin if the lead developer of Dash truly did find a way to make Dash more scalable as discussed here :

https://dashtalk.org/threads/rebranding-and-scalability.4254/  
date : march 9, 2015

Evan Duffield, lead developer of Dash :
Quote

After giving it some thought, I came up with a scalable architecture that supports billions of transactions per day.

Specifications of this strategy:

•The blockchain will automatically become much more anonymous than Bitcoin is.
•Fees per transaction will be very, very low. Let the micro-payment revolution begin.
•Zero-centralization
•Scalable to billions of transactions per day
•Requires a 2-tier network
•Very low blockchain bloat

I make no promises about this idea working though, I’m very early in the research stages, but it does look quite promising. If it works, it means we have solved the ultimate problem with Bitcoin and have made this technology accessible to the whole world. This strategy is just too good to let sit for very long and I need to do some exploratory coding to prove it works.

I have a feeling we will learn more about this soon ...


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: iCEBREAKER on April 19, 2015, 05:19:57 AM
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/evan-duffield-dash-darkcoin-dash-will-position-direct-competitor-bitcoin/

The creator thinks it can

The creator can't even keep his core devs onboard.

One of them now says:

I will not return or contribute to darkcoin as long as it is nothing more than a company selling a product. And I dont want to offend anyone when I say I simply have to smile when I see that darkcoin wants to take on bitcoin (https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/evan-duffield-dash-darkcoin-dash-will-position-direct-competitor-bitcoin/). Bitcoin is a consensus protocol specification, a team of developers maintaining a reference implementation, miners sustaining the consensus (http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ver-ever.png) throughout the network and a democratic foundation which does nothing than public relations.

Darkcoin has none of this and should take the time to learn why it's important to support decentralization over corporate-like behaviour, why it's important to achieve a network consensus by miners not developers and why it's important to have democratic fallback infrastructure in place in case there are disputes without consensus.
darkcoin is competion for paypal, not bitcoin.
corporations can fail. cryptocurrencies cant. mistrust authority, promote decentralization (http://project.cyberpunk.ru/idb/hacker_ethics.html).


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: Oscilson on April 23, 2015, 01:52:11 PM
Im confused, i thought dash died a few weeks ago, the dev went awol or something?

Dash is Digital cASH now. It used to be Darkcoin.


Title: Re: Could Dash realistically compete with bitcoin
Post by: r3wt on April 24, 2015, 12:16:58 AM
alot of interesting responses thus far. keep it coming