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Title: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: irfan_pak10 on April 18, 2015, 06:55:56 PM
Here is the List Of top 10 Intelligence List

1. ISI, Pakistan
                   ISI stands for Inter-Services Intelligence and is the main intelligence agency for Pakistan. This has been ranked as the world’s best intelligence agency by the American Crime News

2. CIA, USA
             Central Intelligence Agency is the independently functioning intelligence agency of the United States of America.

3. MI-6, United Kingdom
             MI-6 is normally called as Secret Intelligence Service and is one of the best  intelligence agencies of the world.

4. FSB, Russia
             FSB stands for Federal Security Service and is the main security agency of Russia.

5. BND, Germany
              BND is an abbreviation of Bundesnachrichtendienst, which in English means Federal Intelligence Service. This agency was created after World War II

6. Mossad, Israel
              Mossad id the intelligence agency for Israel and was formed in 1949. It is one of the most successful intelligence agencies of the world

7. RAW, India
              RAW stands for Research and Analysis Wing. It is the external agency of India that was formed in 1968.

8. KHAD, Afghanistan
              KHAD stands for Khadamat-e Aetla’at-e Dawlati, which in English means State Intelligence Agency.

9. ASIS, Australia
                ASIS stands for Australian Secret Intelligence Service. The agency was founded in 1952 and is supervised by a Director General.

10. DGSE, France
              DGSE is an abbreviation of Direction Générale De La Sécurité Extérieure. In English, this means General Board of External Security.

- See more at:http://listtoptens.com/top-10-worlds-best-intelligence-agencies-2014/


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: anarchy right now on April 18, 2015, 07:26:38 PM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: irfan_pak10 on April 19, 2015, 06:42:14 AM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.

How can you say that A Country could be run Without Secrets? There should be Secrets an any Type of gov, to run a gov Effectively. If Not then other Countries will try to Cheat you by Taking your Secrets


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: WhatTheGox on April 19, 2015, 07:07:45 AM

3. MI-6, United Kingdom
             MI-6 is normally called as Secret Intelligence Service and is one of the best  intelligence agencies of the world.


We made the list due to hard work in the movies by daniel craig et al.  Good job guys!


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: waterpile on April 19, 2015, 07:14:29 AM
I thought CIA was the best and I didn't even heard about the ISI.

I wonder on what factors did they based their evaluations on these Agencies.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: Aggressor66 on April 19, 2015, 07:54:34 AM
Best?

Historically:  
The British MI6 — they invented the modern industrial intelligence standards and dominated the world thereof until the 1950's.  

Currently:  
Clearly the CIA has all the money, footprint, equipment and power.  It's hard to compete with an agency that has more money to spend and people to deploy than any other.  The CIA's budget is larger than most entire nations' governments; larger than most nations' military budget (except but a few).  The CIA can also lean on assets and powers of other intelligence services in the USA that extend its reach and power even further.  The total US intel spending hovers around $70 billion per year.  That's hard to compete with.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: anarchy right now on April 19, 2015, 08:25:45 AM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.

How can you say that A Country could be run Without Secrets? There should be Secrets an any Type of gov, to run a gov Effectively. If Not then other Countries will try to Cheat you by Taking your Secrets

The people decide if they want to belong to a country or not. Not you.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: Amph on April 19, 2015, 09:38:45 AM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.

secret mean anon, then this mean that bitcoin is violating democracy? bullshit

you can't have everything transparent and cleary everytime, secret mean privacy too


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: anarchy right now on April 19, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.

secret mean anon, then this mean that bitcoin is violating democracy? bullshit

you can't have everything transparent and cleary everytime, secret mean privacy too

There is no privacy in public matters. It is not your home.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: CoinFoxs on April 19, 2015, 02:29:22 PM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.

secret mean anon, then this mean that bitcoin is violating democracy? bullshit

you can't have everything transparent and cleary everytime, secret mean privacy too

There is no privacy in public matters. It is not your home.

So Bitcoin is public Currency there should be No privacy in BTC. Will you please reveal me your btc private key?


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: notlist3d on April 19, 2015, 04:27:48 PM
Best?

Historically:  
The British MI6 — they invented the modern industrial intelligence standards and dominated the world thereof until the 1950's.  

Currently:  
Clearly the CIA has all the money, footprint, equipment and power.  It's hard to compete with an agency that has more money to spend and people to deploy than any other.  The CIA's budget is larger than most entire nations' governments; larger than most nations' military budget (except but a few).  The CIA can also lean on assets and powers of other intelligence services in the USA that extend its reach and power even further.  The total US intel spending hovers around $70 billion per year.  That's hard to compete with.

I would argue the best would be unknown.  If truly doing intelligence right  your goal would be to not be noticed, or get headlines.

So if one of these agency's does make a headline in my opinion they failed.  But it does seem some do make the news a lot more then others.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: galdur on April 20, 2015, 01:44:40 AM
I think you can rather safely scratch that laughable Afghan thingie from the list and replace it with for example KCIA, South-Korea´s intelligence agency.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 20, 2015, 01:52:47 AM
I think you can rather safely scratch that laughable Afghan thingie from the list and replace it with for example KCIA, South-Korea´s intelligence agency.

Sadly, they make the list since "KHAD, Afghanistan" is one of the middle-eastern branches of the US-CIA.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: galdur on April 20, 2015, 02:03:09 AM
I think you can rather safely scratch that laughable Afghan thingie from the list and replace it with for example KCIA, South-Korea´s intelligence agency.

Sadly, they make the list since "KHAD, Afghanistan" is one of the middle-eastern branches of the US-CIA.

Yeah, well a so called intelligence agency whose government barely controls the capital of the country isn´t worth jackshift in my humble opinion.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on March 17, 2016, 08:21:22 AM
CIA agents are very funny comedians! They dont know how to spy someone. Someday i will teach them about spying and anti-spying.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: JesusHadAegis on March 17, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
I noticed are from middle east. I guess they have their own budget to fund them agency? Unlike Us where they have many issues unsolved and they only work o movies??hmm??


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: magnific61 on March 17, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Intelligence is the most important thing for national and international security but most of those secret services are supporting and organising terror on world.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: Slowturtleinc on March 18, 2016, 12:57:50 AM
***Edit missed link,will have to check it out***

Pakistan at the top maybe in certain places in the world but really doubt it is number one for the whole globe.
Lot of what Pakistan has is due to being pumped up by the USA. If they are so good,why was Bin Laden right under their nose?
Its either they knew he was there and did nothing or they had no idea. For a very poor Country I have a hard time believing they are at the top.

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This agency has played vital and effective role during Kargil & Afghan Wars and Kashmir operation.

 

This makes more sense.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: designerusa on March 18, 2016, 05:56:39 AM
Here is the List Of top 10 Intelligence List

1. ISI, Pakistan
                   ISI stands for Inter-Services Intelligence and is the main intelligence agency for Pakistan. This has been ranked as the world’s best intelligence agency by the American Crime News

2. CIA, USA
             Central Intelligence Agency is the independently functioning intelligence agency of the United States of America.

3. MI-6, United Kingdom
             MI-6 is normally called as Secret Intelligence Service and is one of the best  intelligence agencies of the world.

4. FSB, Russia
             FSB stands for Federal Security Service and is the main security agency of Russia.

5. BND, Germany
              BND is an abbreviation of Bundesnachrichtendienst, which in English means Federal Intelligence Service. This agency was created after World War II

6. Mossad, Israel
              Mossad id the intelligence agency for Israel and was formed in 1949. It is one of the most successful intelligence agencies of the world

7. RAW, India
              RAW stands for Research and Analysis Wing. It is the external agency of India that was formed in 1968.

8. KHAD, Afghanistan
              KHAD stands for Khadamat-e Aetla’at-e Dawlati, which in English means State Intelligence Agency.

9. ASIS, Australia
                ASIS stands for Australian Secret Intelligence Service. The agency was founded in 1952 and is supervised by a Director General.

10. DGSE, France
              DGSE is an abbreviation of Direction Générale De La Sécurité Extérieure. In English, this means General Board of External Security.

- See more at:http://listtoptens.com/top-10-worlds-best-intelligence-agencies-2014/

according to me, isi in pakistan and khad in afganistan are the one of the branches of cia.. for that reason they are among best intelligence services .. one way or another, all of them are legal terrorists organisations for sure..


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: bitbunnny on March 18, 2016, 09:39:11 AM
Mossad is only on 6th place? I think they should be more on the top. And some of these agencies are "sponsored" by USA, that is true.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: arbitrage on March 18, 2016, 09:39:20 AM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.
Yes and you can see those countries that are very proud on democracy conducting surveillance on their citizens. We could talk here about secret services but they are just minions and don't deserve much attention.
We must find snakes head!


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: vero on March 19, 2016, 07:22:30 AM
In my view The most refined in its mission the CIA, were both KGB is the most cunning and ruthless, because dlm mission has always kill is mossad.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: arbitrage on March 19, 2016, 09:26:19 AM
Those agency are used for committing crimes against freedom of privacy, and i just can't endorse them. Also fact is they are financed by many sides, and many times they are working and cooperating against ordinary people like us.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: JesusHadAegis on March 19, 2016, 10:24:47 AM
Those agency are used for committing crimes against freedom of privacy, and i just can't endorse them. Also fact is they are financed by many sides, and many times they are working and cooperating against ordinary people like us.


Well I havent really heard any accomplishments by them , i mean my perspective on this intellegence are from movies i watched. But i know they cover up or "manage" everything political or even economic issues.

And i think its waste on money maintaining this secret agencies when many anomalies are issued than achievements. I get the idea on what they do but many civilians need more budget than this.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: xuan87 on March 19, 2016, 11:15:28 AM
Those agency are used for committing crimes against freedom of privacy, and i just can't endorse them. Also fact is they are financed by many sides, and many times they are working and cooperating against ordinary people like us.


It is true, but sometimes the agent is needed to protect the country, sometimes the country need somebody to do "dirty" work to seal the secret of the country, sometimes they need the agent to infiltrate into enemy territory, so i think this agent is important for the country


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: images on March 19, 2016, 11:17:13 AM
Those agency are used for committing crimes against freedom of privacy, and i just can't endorse them. Also fact is they are financed by many sides, and many times they are working and cooperating against ordinary people like us.


It is true, but sometimes the agent is needed to protect the country, sometimes the country need somebody to do "dirty" work to seal the secret of the country, sometimes they need the agent to infiltrate into enemy territory, so i think this agent is important for the country

Ya its totally secret that i have yet to see real agents in the cia because i am still stock with notion on what the movies portray.


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: arbitrage on March 20, 2016, 09:16:06 AM
It is true, but sometimes the agent is needed to protect the country, sometimes the country need somebody to do "dirty" work to seal the secret of the country, sometimes they need the agent to infiltrate into enemy territory, so i think this agent is important for the country
Yes they have almost unlimited resources and technology used is like that in Bond movies, but all they are doing now is surveilling US people, and trying to spread fear from terrorism among people.
Give your freedom and you will get protection! This is dictatorship!

"The survey found that about 79 percent of respondents believe a terrorist attack is somewhat likely or very likely in the next few months. Around 19 percent of respondents said they believe terrorism is the most important national issue -- up from the 4 percent last month."
from: http://www.ibtimes.com/americans-fear-terrorism-its-peak-911-new-poll-says-2221155


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on September 14, 2016, 09:43:42 AM
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Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: liyueyue8964 on September 14, 2016, 11:15:29 AM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.

bullshit, without secret agencies there is no democracy at all


Title: Re: Top 10 World’s Best Intelligence Agencies 2014
Post by: Sundark on September 14, 2016, 12:38:20 PM
All secret agencies violate democracy. In a democracy there are no secrets.
Democracy is a fiction, all political systems are. You can have the greatest rules written down, the perfect laws and statutes.
But because humans are just humans secrets will always be common sight.