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Title: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 24, 2012, 05:50:50 PM
SUGGESTED GLBSE SECURITY
Code:
BYLAWS

OVERVIEW

The money raised in this IPO will be used by chris3spice to buy hormones, etc. in order to change her sex to female. She will be producing transexual pornography during her transition, and may also produce pornography after her transition. A share in this asset entitles the owner to a share of the distributed profits from all of chris3spice's future pornographic activities.

22,000 shares will be sold in the IPO for 0.05 BTC each.

BUYBACK OPTION

Before all 22,000 shares are sold, the issuer may cancel the IPO and buy back all shares at 0.05 BTC per share.

After all shares are sold, the issuer may end all of her obligations by buying back all shares at 0.1 BTC per share.

ISSUER OBLIGATIONS

The issuer may make money from pornographic activities in a variety of ways. For example, she may record her own videos and sell them on a subscription site of her own; she may sell the copyright to her videos; she may use camming sites to make money; she may work for a company specializing in the creation of pornographic videos; etc. In any case, whenever the issuer is using pornographic images or videos of her body in order to make money, the full amount of money made is considered DISTRIBUTABLE REVENUE.

The issuer will occasionally distribute profits to shareholders in the form of dividends. Dividend payments should be made within seven days of the last day of every month when there are distributable profits in that month. DISTRIBUTABLE PROFITS is the distributable revenue for that month minus any allowed expenses for that month. If the expenses for that month are greater than the distributable revenue for that month, no dividends are made and the remaining expenses for that month are added to the next month's allowed expenses.

ALLOWED EXPENSES include only:
- Legal costs if the issuer runs her own site.
- Hosting costs if the issuer runs her own site.
- The pay of at most one employee if the issuer runs her own site. The pay must be reasonable. The issuer cannot be the paid employee.
- Specific fees levied by governments related to pornography production. Does not include tax.
- Fees required by sites that the issuer uses to make money.

If the issuer creates pornographic material and no other money-making contracts prevent her from claiming copyright on it, and she therefore would own copyright on it, the copyright is instead owned by the shareholders. Its ownership and use can be decided by a majority shareholder vote.

Each time dividends are distributed, the current USD value per share of the BTC so distributed is to be added to a running total; this running total is the USD-DENOMINATED TOTAL PAYOUT. The BTC per share paid out is likewise added to a separate running total; this is the BTC-DENOMINATED TOTAL PAYOUT.

If the USD-denominated total payout is less than 0.55, then the issuer is obligated to:

- Produce at least 240 minutes of pornographic video each month. One pornographic image is considered equivalent to one second of video. Camming itself is not considered creation of pornographic video; the camming session must be recorded for it to count.
- Try to make as much money as possible on the pornographic video produced above.
- Distribute to shareholders 100% of distributable profits.
- Not undergo sex reassignment surgery, as this would make the issuer's porn less unique and valuable.

If the BTC-denominated total payout is less than 0.05 but the USD-denominated total payout is greater than 0.55, then the issuer is no longer required to produce porn, and she may undergo sex reassignment surgery. However, she is still obligated to distribute 50% of distributable profits.

If the BTC denominated total payout is greater than 0.05 and the USD-denominated total payout is greater than 0.55, then the issuer is obligated to distribute 25% of distributable profits.

These obligations do not apply before all 22,000 shares are sold, or for the first 60 days after all 22,000 shares are sold.

Note: although the issuer receives a percentage of profits, she has no shares.

SHAREHOLDER VOTES

The issuer may call for a shareholder vote about any topic. One share equals one vote. At least seven days must be given for voting.

Shareholders may only independently call for binding votes regarding copyright on produced videos, or if the issuer has broken this contract.

AMENDMENTS

The issuer may make amendments to these bylaws if the changes are agreed to by a majority shareholder vote.



I have been strugling with my gender identity for a while now. I have finally decided to take the plunge and start transitioning into the woman that I know that I'm supposed to be. The cost of this transition is of course high, so I figured I would try my luck with a long term loan with BTC.

My real name is Chris I'd rather not put my full name on a searchable forum as I do hide my transgerism from my family, but I'll gladly give out some information to help my case. I'll PM my info I just don't want it searchable.

Currently I have 28.50264226 BTC in Bitcoinmax and have it set so that 4% of that interest gained goes into my transition fund

I do not need the full amounts right away I will start when I have enough and hope to have people keep donating. The only one that I think I'll have to have the full amount for is the SRS. Anything that is not being used right away will probably go into bitcoinmax but that will only apply when I get enough to save it for SRS, right away it'll get spent on the hormones and everything I need immediately

Cost Breakdown (BTC at $11)
1) Hormones -  26.75 BTC (Tri-Monthly, Estrofem, Spirotone, Provera)

2) Electrolysis - 528 BTC (Very High End Estimate will pay by session so I'll start when I have enough for a session and the amount required will be adjusted accordingly)

3) Breast Implants - 336 BTC (These will wait for a while after hormones to see if they grow enough naturally to where I want [or maybe I should let you all decide on the size])

4) Clothes - ???? BTC - Send me clothes or buy the for me or donate BTC specifically for the clothing fund. I'll wear them as I get them to help prove its me!

5) Hair - 3 BTC - Color I think I look good with Black but I'm good with keeping my natural color as well.

6) Make-up - ???? BTC - Same as clothes

7) SRS - $2182 BTC - Again high end estimate

Donate toward General Fund (Electrolysis and Hormones and Hair)
Code:
1DTgN2yXpkjJuCv6UNEy6kDLQ7uqWyxCPC

Donate toward SRS
Code:
1KQ55iMCarqLhEu83chAuy6QRboTVE9ved

Donate towards Breast Implants
Code:
1E5D7WLmFiaTnEhEMjkJBMHzjKZci6aZ2A

Donate towards Clothes
Code:
1HRSSVkYGGzaqprgnqK8oK4iJ4wGUo5MDi

Donate towards Make-up
Code:
127NjBbuu7xcjbhdbDRBkzZBqZdDP1Nufm

Current Funds (Will update as spent and received)
Code:
[size=12pt]General Fund - 0.1408
SRS - 0.0
Breast Implants - 0.0
Clothes - 0.0
Make-up - 0.0[/size]

Note: If I do not get the breast implants and am happy with what the hormones give me (unlikely), I will move the Bitcoins from there into the SRS Fund.


I know that I do not have that many post counts and that many of you are going to make fun of me for trying, but hey I gotta try. I want you guys to be able to trust me and I will do pretty much whatever it takes for that to happen. Just post what you want me to do. Pic with shoe on my head? Something else let me know what I can do!

I do mine LTC and usually sell it for BTC and put it into Bitcoinmax. I also have a few GLBSE shares that I get a little from but not a whole lot, but instead of reinvesting I may start putting the .1 BTC I now make a week into this fund. I also do daily bitcoin and coinad to get a few extra bitcents.

I plan on starting a blog to mark progress on my transition...like daily pics of my face and such. I do want to pay people back once I get up to SRS surgery so that is why its a loan, it will take more than a year to start paying people back and honestly I'm thinking 2 1/2 years. I'll gladly pay interest I'll just have to keep track of everyone in a spreadsheet or something, or maybe I'll just set it up so that I'll pay you double the BTC back or something. (Suggestions on what to do would be helpfull)

Just think, you could all own a part of my new body! :p

I will update this post as new information comes in. How about for the first order of business, picking a new girl name, online I go by Caitlin Renee Lovell but I'm not sure I like the name I only picked it because it was the best one I could come up with at the time that I thought fit me! I'll start the blog after I decide to stick with Caitlin or come up with a new name. I'll also be giving out some info on my fetishes and what I want to do after transitioning

Anyway post away, flame, mock do whatever you want, pic requests (does anyone know a good host for lots of pictures to post for here and the future blog ). I plan on editing this post to update and reflect information and for better organization later on so expect some changes and such!

Donators (If you donate and don't tell me I can't add your name):
-chris3spice (ME!)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AngryCatfish on August 24, 2012, 07:18:18 PM
If this is legit, it could be an interesting way to promote btc through the lgbt community.

I think you should check out flamingfreedom(dot)com, call into the show with your story and proposal, you might garner more interest outside bitcoin forum and I think a story like this would be up their alley.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: occulta on August 24, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
thanks for this, gotsome good laughs out of it :)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 24, 2012, 07:40:40 PM
@ AnonX - I've done some talking to a psychiatrist and i've been in a swing state of deciding for years and its just built up to now. Thanks for the concern

@ AngryCatfish - Good idea, I don't really care for gay marriage but whatever floats your boat is my stand so I may do that.

@ occulta - this is what I'm expecting to get a lot of posts saying, which is why I'm willing to do whatever is in my power to convince people.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Snapman on August 24, 2012, 07:54:44 PM
In a forum loaded with 90% troll, your going to have to expect the same percentage of rude ass comments from ethugglets.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Raoul Duke on August 24, 2012, 08:22:23 PM
So, you say you will hide it from your family... How is that possible?
You better tell them. NOW!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Ilikeham on August 24, 2012, 08:34:48 PM
So, you say you will hide it from your family... How is that possible?
You better tell them. NOW!

OffT
I demand you march down and tell your Mom what kind of pr0n you whack to psy. NOW.

OnT
Good luck with your transition. Handle your family however you feel best but I do like the previous suggestion of guided counseling as you make your way through. Not every hormonal blend strikes the right chord with specific personal biology so getting some pro help on the medical front is also advisable.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Raoul Duke on August 24, 2012, 09:12:16 PM
So, you say you will hide it from your family... How is that possible?
You better tell them. NOW!

OffT
I demand you march down and tell your Mom what kind of pr0n you whack to psy. NOW.


So, you think it's possible to hide something like this from his/her family? LMAO


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 12:09:34 AM
@snapman - Yup, I've got thick skin I'm good for whatever peeps throw

@psy - I've actually tried telling them before and I was close to being thrown out so no, I barely even talk to them anymore and when I do which is about once a year I just don't mention anything...I'm not exactly "hiding" it as in I am constantly in fear of them finding out. I'm just delaying them from completely kicking me out of their lives.

@ILikeHam - Thanks for the support!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: nimda on August 25, 2012, 12:57:57 AM
I find dank's "bank" more laughable than this thread. In fact I'd much rather ridicule him; I have no problem with gender changes. (Does that make me accepting or does me making fun of dank make me a bad person? lol)

The one thing I see missing is your pay back plan. There's also the risk that the price of BTC rises... perhaps you should find someone to do a CFD with you and you can take the long position.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 01:01:47 AM
I find dank's "bank" more laughable than this thread. In fact I'd much rather ridicule him; I have no problem with gender changes. (Does that make me accepting or does me making fun of dank make me a bad person? lol)

The one thing I see missing is your pay back plan. There's also the risk that the price of BTC rises... perhaps you should find someone to do a CFD with you and you can take the long position.

I thought about it, but this is more fun, and I'm trying to figure out a good payback plan...just haven't come up with a good system that would work because I don't need all the BTC at once but will need it over a couple years.
I thought about making it a GLBSE and having a whole lot of stocks and then paying it back as a future of some sort.

I think it makes you an accepting person, thanks for the support!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Brunic on August 25, 2012, 01:33:36 AM
I have no problem with what you do with your body, it's yours and I really think that only immature or coward people can find a reason to laugh at you.

Still, in a purely business vision...I don't see the point of that. I think donations would even be more appropriate to this type of project. Also, try to find a community that can support you in this type of project. I doubt the Bitcoin community is far from being the best one and I'm even more doubtful about the support you can find here.

Also, if your community rejects you as you are, don't be afraid to move. I'm living near Montreal, and I know people accept LGBT around here. We have the gay pride parade, with the gay village, gay marriage and all the stuff around it. I don't know that much since...well, I'm an hetero, so I don't know exactly how this community work, but people around here don't mind the LGBT. So, if your community tries to burn you (like I sometimes see in the news in different part of the world), just move, there's also many welcoming communities for you.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 02:07:13 AM
I have no problem with what you do with your body, it's yours and I really think that only immature or coward people can find a reason to laugh at you.

Still, in a purely business vision...I don't see the point of that. I think donations would even be more appropriate to this type of project. Also, try to find a community that can support you in this type of project. I doubt the Bitcoin community is far from being the best one and I'm even more doubtful about the support you can find here.

Also, if your community rejects you as you are, don't be afraid to move. I'm living near Montreal, and I know people accept LGBT around here. We have the gay pride parade, with the gay village, gay marriage and all the stuff around it. I don't know that much since...well, I'm an hetero, so I don't know exactly how this community work, but people around here don't mind the LGBT. So, if your community tries to burn you (like I sometimes see in the news in different part of the world), just move, there's also many welcoming communities for you.

Thanks for the kind words. Donations would be awesome. I wish I had the money to move but I don't and I can't seem to find a higher paying job anywhere else, its not that the community rejects me, just my family, so that's not an issue...for now.

I know this is a long shot but I'm going to take it! Its also probably the most interesting way to try to do this!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Ilikeham on August 25, 2012, 02:23:06 AM
So, you say you will hide it from your family... How is that possible?
You better tell them. NOW!

OffT
I demand you march down and tell your Mom what kind of pr0n you whack to psy. NOW.


So, you think it's possible to hide something like this from his/her family? LMAO

No, not at all, just mocking you for making random demands on random strangers. I think in your own way you meant well, but your approach lends itself to an easy brush off.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AngryCatfish on August 25, 2012, 05:26:03 AM

@ AngryCatfish - Good idea, I don't really care for gay marriage but whatever floats your boat is my stand so I may do that.


Gay marriage? By proposal I meant you telling them how your going to raise money by getting a loan with bitcoin (they are bitcoin friendly) by calling in to the live show or skype.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: stratus on August 25, 2012, 05:37:51 AM
Are you willing to post explicit pictures/videos for us?

How old are you? Post pics.

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or maybe I should let you all decide on the size

A GLBSE asset with voting for decisions like this would be fun.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 25, 2012, 01:19:30 PM
So, you say you will hide it from your family... How is that possible?
You better tell them. NOW!


Yeah, I don't understand that part... You're going to surprise them with this? Hi mom, dad.... meet your new daughter..... Tell them....




Have you thought you were a woman your entire life?


I had an old neighbor that switched to a chic, he/she was a nice person.... Loved the reefer :)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 02:14:05 PM
@AngryCatfish - I know but I wasn't sure if I don't support them in all their causes they wouldn't support me, that's where my head was going.

@stratus - I would be willing, I'm 27 (just turned 27 at end of June). Do you know a good image host with A LOT of free space? And I do thing the GLBSE would be a neat idea and awesome experiment.

@AndrewBUD - I know when I tell them I'm going to be shunned anyway so why not have fun. I have always known something was 'wrong' with me ever since I was little. I always felt like I should have been a girl since about middle school.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 25, 2012, 02:23:20 PM
Good luck and ignore the trolls  :)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 25, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Maybe you're just gay? Do you screw dudes already?


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: stratus on August 25, 2012, 04:59:12 PM
Do you know a good image host with A LOT of free space?

http://www.imagefap.com/
http://1magehut.com/

Do you think it will be possible for you to become completely feminine? The most successful MTFs start hormones at a younger age.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
@AndrewBUD - No, I really don't like having  male parts at all, its almost disgusting to me to have them, it makes me feel incomplete. No I haven't screwed anybody yet.

@stratus - Thanks! I'll check them out! I've crosplayed before at anime conventions and people have never been able to tell I'm a guy, I've been hit on by plenty of guys though thinking I was a girl...So to answer your question...yes


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: stratus on August 25, 2012, 05:34:37 PM
Quote
1) Hormones -  26.75 BTC (Tri-Monthly, Estrofem, Spirotone, Provera)
Quote
2) Electrolysis - 528 BTC (Very High End Estimate will pay by session so I'll start when I have enough for a session and the amount required will be adjusted accordingly)

How many treatments of hormones and electrolysis do these prices cover? All of them? What is the per-session cost for electrolysis, and how frequently must it be performed?

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No, I really don't like having  male parts at all

Are you going to have gender reassignment surgery? Your price estimate does not include this.

Do you currently do dieting and exercise to maintain a feminine appearance?

A GLBSE asset for you could actually be profitable if you plan on doing a lot of porn later. There are few realistic "traps" who do porn and a fair amount of demand for it. My "real-life realistic trap" porn folder is woefully small.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 25, 2012, 06:35:45 PM
umm.. I sorry but, ewww ^


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: interlagos on August 25, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
Don't worry too much about it, it's part of a karmic cycle.
We are all here to experience duality - good and bad, rich and poor, healthy and ill, male and female.
As soul travels from lifetime to lifetime it chooses what aspects of duality it wants to learn the most.
Living different lives in different genders is part of the game, otherwise you won't get the full experience.

Once soul has perfected itself as male or female it is that part of the cycle when it reincarnates in opposite gender. It takes approximately three lifetimes to get used to this new experience - consciousness tends to have some inertia in this regard.

All people will have to go through this at some point of their journey through the Universe to keep their karmic balance. Many old souls have gone through this many times, again that's part of the game we all play.
So don't worry and think of it as just another kind of experience that you might want to learn from.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: IveBeenBit on August 25, 2012, 08:10:54 PM
Once soul has perfected itself as male or female it is that part of the cycle when it reincarnates in opposite gender. It takes approximately three lifetimes to get used to this new experience - consciousness tends to have some inertia in this regard.

I never know what I'm going to learn today when I log on to these forums.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 08:13:37 PM
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1) Hormones -  26.75 BTC (Tri-Monthly, Estrofem, Spirotone, Provera)
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2) Electrolysis - 528 BTC (Very High End Estimate will pay by session so I'll start when I have enough for a session and the amount required will be adjusted accordingly)

How many treatments of hormones and electrolysis do these prices cover? All of them? What is the per-session cost for electrolysis, and how frequently must it be performed?

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No, I really don't like having  male parts at all

Are you going to have gender reassignment surgery? Your price estimate does not include this.

Do you currently do dieting and exercise to maintain a feminine appearance?

A GLBSE asset for you could actually be profitable if you plan on doing a lot of porn later. There are few realistic "traps" who do porn and a fair amount of demand for it. My "real-life realistic trap" porn folder is woefully small.

I do exercise enough to maintain a shape but not get 6-pack abs or anything.

I do want SRS and the cost varies greatly so I don't have an estimate for it. My high end estimate would probably be about $20,000


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 25, 2012, 10:20:12 PM
$20K to turn your penis inside out? 


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
$20K to turn your penis inside out? 
On the high end...I'm sure there are places that would be a bit cheaper, plus you have to stay in the hospital for a day or so and all that adds up


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 25, 2012, 10:45:15 PM
Move to Canada.... I'll sell you a health card :P


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 10:48:35 PM
Move to Canada.... I'll sell you a health card :P

Maybe...


So I've been thinking of names and for my first name I'm liking either Katie or Laura, I don't just want to feminize my actual name.
For last names I've got a list: Mori, Macinnis, Byers, McMurray, Breyer, Adelson, Kinsley.
Let me know what you all think!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 25, 2012, 10:52:10 PM
how about.... Slupr Mcdongle ? Just messing with ya... :P



I have banged a few Katies... :P


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: repentance on August 25, 2012, 11:32:33 PM
While I kind of understand the idea of giving donors a stake in the future you, I think it's a really bad idea to let things like your breast size, name, etc be influenced by them.

Especially for those who fully transition, the name you choose can make a huge difference to whether you're regarded as "that trans woman" or just another woman.  So can the physical form you decide on.  It would be wise to reflect on whether you want "trans" to be a permanent part of your future identity or whether you just want to be an average woman after transition. 

Don't underestimate just how much your choices will influence how you're treated by men and women alike post-transition - especially if you choose a high-glam, porn star boobs kind of look.

On a practical level, Asia is the home of cheap gender reassignment surgery and sculpting.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 25, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
While I kind of understand the idea of giving donors a stake in the future you, I think it's a really bad idea to let things like your breast size, name, etc be influenced by them.

Especially for those who fully transition, the name you choose can make a huge difference to whether you're regarded as "that trans woman" or just another woman.  So can the physical form you decide on.  It would be wise to reflect on whether you want "trans" to be a permanent part of your future identity or whether you just want to be an average woman after transition. 

Don't underestimate just how much your choices will influence how you're treated by men and women alike post-transition - especially if you choose a high-glam, porn star boobs kind of look.

On a practical level, Asia is the home of cheap gender reassignment surgery and sculpting.

I know my choices will affect me, but its an experiment and fun, I'll pick my name ultimately but I like the idea of being an experiment.
Asia I shall have to visit then!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: thebaron on August 26, 2012, 12:15:55 AM
Repossessing the new parts if you default.

Yep, my dirty mind went there.

lol

And just because I find it hot, I'd probably be encouraged more to donate if there were before and after pix up for grabs.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 26, 2012, 12:28:24 AM
Repossessing the new parts if you default.

Yep, my dirty mind went there.

lol

And just because I find it hot, I'd probably be encouraged more to donate if there were before and after pix up for grabs.

Once I get going here I'll get a blog all setup with photos going


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 26, 2012, 12:58:14 AM
Repossessing the new parts if you default.

Yep, my dirty mind went there.

lol

And just because I find it hot, I'd probably be encouraged more to donate if there were before and after pix up for grabs.


Woah.... a little homo are we? You want to see before and after pic's of a inside out penis? hmm,,,, Maybe just regular pic's ? :) Post a pic of yourself now and get this show on the road :P


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: thebaron on August 26, 2012, 01:41:40 AM
Repossessing the new parts if you default.

Yep, my dirty mind went there.

lol

And just because I find it hot, I'd probably be encouraged more to donate if there were before and after pix up for grabs.


Woah.... a little homo are we? You want to see before and after pic's of a inside out penis? hmm,,,, Maybe just regular pic's ? :) Post a pic of yourself now and get this show on the road :P

I'm a mythical full blow bisexual. I've got some video's on the internet, but I doubt you want to watch a fat guy jerking off.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 26, 2012, 02:23:04 AM
Oh how exciting...... I have had some 5 way orgy's :) 2 dudes 3 chics :) but never had a cock in my butt or mouth


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 26, 2012, 02:55:49 AM
I added the GLBSE Option! Let me know what you all think! Thank you stratus for the help!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: stratus on August 26, 2012, 03:50:10 AM
This is the asset contract I came up with after some discussion with chris3spice. The idea is that investors pay for chris3spice's hormones and stuff and in return chris3spice agrees to create porn and give investors a percentage of all the money she makes from porn. There are some extra conditions in the contract which are supposed to stop investors from losing any money, while also being fair to chris3spice.

How many people would be interested in this? I will invest at least 25 bitcoins if it chris3spice posts pics and I think she has the potential to become hot.

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BYLAWS

OVERVIEW

The money raised in this IPO will be used by chris3spice to buy hormones, etc. in order to change her sex to female. She will be producing transexual pornography during her transition, and may also produce pornography after her transition. A share in this asset entitles the owner to a share of the distributed profits from all of chris3spice's future pornographic activities.

22,000 shares will be sold in the IPO for 0.05 BTC each.

BUYBACK OPTION

Before all 22,000 shares are sold, the issuer may cancel the IPO and buy back all shares at 0.05 BTC per share.

After all shares are sold, the issuer may end all of her obligations by buying back all shares at 0.1 BTC per share.

ISSUER OBLIGATIONS

The issuer may make money from pornographic activities in a variety of ways. For example, she may record her own videos and sell them on a subscription site of her own; she may sell the copyright to her videos; she may use camming sites to make money; she may work for a company specializing in the creation of pornographic videos; etc. In any case, whenever the issuer is using pornographic images or videos of her body in order to make money, the full amount of money made is considered DISTRIBUTABLE REVENUE.

The issuer will occasionally distribute profits to shareholders in the form of dividends. Dividend payments should be made within seven days of the last day of every month when there are distributable profits in that month. DISTRIBUTABLE PROFITS is the distributable revenue for that month minus any allowed expenses for that month. If the expenses for that month are greater than the distributable revenue for that month, no dividends are made and the remaining expenses for that month are added to the next month's allowed expenses.

ALLOWED EXPENSES include only:
- Legal costs if the issuer runs her own site.
- Hosting costs if the issuer runs her own site.
- The pay of at most one employee if the issuer runs her own site. The pay must be reasonable. The issuer cannot be the paid employee.
- Specific fees levied by governments related to pornography production. Does not include tax.
- Fees required by sites that the issuer uses to make money.

If the issuer creates pornographic material and no other money-making contracts prevent her from claiming copyright on it, and she therefore would own copyright on it, the copyright is instead owned by the shareholders. Its ownership and use can be decided by a majority shareholder vote.

Each time dividends are distributed, the current USD value per share of the BTC so distributed is to be added to a running total; this running total is the USD-DENOMINATED TOTAL PAYOUT. The BTC per share paid out is likewise added to a separate running total; this is the BTC-DENOMINATED TOTAL PAYOUT.

If the USD-denominated total payout is less than 0.55, then the issuer is obligated to:

- Produce at least 240 minutes of pornographic video each month. One pornographic image is considered equivalent to one second of video. Camming itself is not considered creation of pornographic video; the camming session must be recorded for it to count.
- Try to make as much money as possible on the pornographic video produced above.
- Distribute to shareholders 100% of distributable profits.
- Not undergo sex reassignment surgery, as this would make the issuer's porn less unique and valuable.

If the BTC-denominated total payout is less than 0.05 but the USD-denominated total payout is greater than 0.55, then the issuer is no longer required to produce porn, and she may undergo sex reassignment surgery. However, she is still obligated to distribute 50% of distributable profits.

If the BTC denominated total payout is greater than 0.05 and the USD-denominated total payout is greater than 0.55, then the issuer is obligated to distribute 25% of distributable profits.

These obligations do not apply before all 22,000 shares are sold, or for the first 60 days after all 22,000 shares are sold.

Note: although the issuer receives a percentage of profits, she has no shares.

SHAREHOLDER VOTES

The issuer may call for a shareholder vote about any topic. One share equals one vote. At least seven days must be given for voting.

Shareholders may only independently call for binding votes regarding copyright on produced videos, or if the issuer has broken this contract.

AMENDMENTS

The issuer may make amendments to these bylaws if the changes are agreed to by a majority shareholder vote.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 26, 2012, 05:55:39 AM
This is the asset contract I came up with after some discussion with chris3spice. The idea is that investors pay for chris3spice's hormones and stuff and in return chris3spice agrees to create porn and give investors a percentage of all the money she makes from porn. There are some extra conditions in the contract which are supposed to stop investors from losing any money, while also being fair to chris3spice.

How many people would be interested in this? I will invest at least 25 bitcoins if it chris3spice posts pics and I think she has the potential to become hot.

Help me finish picking out a name, I'm going to use it to register (as anonymously as I can with it) to make profiles and such.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: stratus on August 26, 2012, 06:18:35 AM
Pepper
Camellia
Lavender
Willow
Saffron
Juniper

Maybe use names of women you admire.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AngryCatfish on August 26, 2012, 12:59:44 PM
I find the contract interesting, pending the blog I might grab some shares.
I like the name Katniss.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 26, 2012, 03:26:43 PM
For my first name I'm still liking Katie or Laura
For a last name I've thought of Mcinnis, Byers, Kinsley, McMurray, Davis


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 26, 2012, 03:28:24 PM
Katie McKinley :)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: stratus on August 26, 2012, 07:24:12 PM
Katie Byers


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 26, 2012, 10:19:20 PM
Katie Ann McKinley! I'm getting a blog all setup and email!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 27, 2012, 05:24:42 AM
This is the asset contract I came up with after some discussion with chris3spice. The idea is that investors pay for chris3spice's hormones and stuff and in return chris3spice agrees to create porn and give investors a percentage of all the money she makes from porn. There are some extra conditions in the contract which are supposed to stop investors from losing any money, while also being fair to chris3spice.

How many people would be interested in this? I will invest at least 25 bitcoins if it chris3spice posts pics and I think she has the potential to become hot.

Quote
BYLAWS

OVERVIEW

The money raised in this IPO will be used by chris3spice to buy hormones, etc. in order to change her sex to female. She will be producing transexual pornography during her transition, and may also produce pornography after her transition. A share in this asset entitles the owner to a share of the distributed profits from all of chris3spice's future pornographic activities.

22,000 shares will be sold in the IPO for 0.05 BTC each.

BUYBACK OPTION

Before all 22,000 shares are sold, the issuer may cancel the IPO and buy back all shares at 0.05 BTC per share.

After all shares are sold, the issuer may end all of her obligations by buying back all shares at 0.1 BTC per share.

ISSUER OBLIGATIONS

The issuer may make money from pornographic activities in a variety of ways. For example, she may record her own videos and sell them on a subscription site of her own; she may sell the copyright to her videos; she may use camming sites to make money; she may work for a company specializing in the creation of pornographic videos; etc. In any case, whenever the issuer is using pornographic images or videos of her body in order to make money, the full amount of money made is considered DISTRIBUTABLE REVENUE.

The issuer will occasionally distribute profits to shareholders in the form of dividends. Dividend payments should be made within seven days of the last day of every month when there are distributable profits in that month. DISTRIBUTABLE PROFITS is the distributable revenue for that month minus any allowed expenses for that month. If the expenses for that month are greater than the distributable revenue for that month, no dividends are made and the remaining expenses for that month are added to the next month's allowed expenses.

ALLOWED EXPENSES include only:
- Legal costs if the issuer runs her own site.
- Hosting costs if the issuer runs her own site.
- The pay of at most one employee if the issuer runs her own site. The pay must be reasonable. The issuer cannot be the paid employee.
- Specific fees levied by governments related to pornography production. Does not include tax.
- Fees required by sites that the issuer uses to make money.

If the issuer creates pornographic material and no other money-making contracts prevent her from claiming copyright on it, and she therefore would own copyright on it, the copyright is instead owned by the shareholders. Its ownership and use can be decided by a majority shareholder vote.

Each time dividends are distributed, the current USD value per share of the BTC so distributed is to be added to a running total; this running total is the USD-DENOMINATED TOTAL PAYOUT. The BTC per share paid out is likewise added to a separate running total; this is the BTC-DENOMINATED TOTAL PAYOUT.

If the USD-denominated total payout is less than 0.55, then the issuer is obligated to:

- Produce at least 240 minutes of pornographic video each month. One pornographic image is considered equivalent to one second of video. Camming itself is not considered creation of pornographic video; the camming session must be recorded for it to count.
- Try to make as much money as possible on the pornographic video produced above.
- Distribute to shareholders 100% of distributable profits.
- Not undergo sex reassignment surgery, as this would make the issuer's porn less unique and valuable.

If the BTC-denominated total payout is less than 0.05 but the USD-denominated total payout is greater than 0.55, then the issuer is no longer required to produce porn, and she may undergo sex reassignment surgery. However, she is still obligated to distribute 50% of distributable profits.

If the BTC denominated total payout is greater than 0.05 and the USD-denominated total payout is greater than 0.55, then the issuer is obligated to distribute 25% of distributable profits.

These obligations do not apply before all 22,000 shares are sold, or for the first 60 days after all 22,000 shares are sold.

Note: although the issuer receives a percentage of profits, she has no shares.

SHAREHOLDER VOTES

The issuer may call for a shareholder vote about any topic. One share equals one vote. At least seven days must be given for voting.

Shareholders may only independently call for binding votes regarding copyright on produced videos, or if the issuer has broken this contract.

AMENDMENTS

The issuer may make amendments to these bylaws if the changes are agreed to by a majority shareholder vote.

Pimpin'

Although its a unique project Im not sure if Nefario will allow it on GLBSE so check with him first. If not theres a couple of other stock exchanges out there.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 27, 2012, 05:29:37 AM
Katie Ann McKinley! I'm getting a blog all setup and email!

You should get Theymos to change your forum name  :)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 27, 2012, 05:54:45 PM
Alright, Basic Blog is setup but no posts yet and I'll get my image account setup for uploading photos.
This week I have a busy school schedule and work but I should get something going by Friday even if it isn't much!

Sent PMs to Nefario and Theymos!

edit: Theymos got the name changed (obvious if you look)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 28, 2012, 09:59:07 PM
LOL you picked my name... Do I get a prize? (no not that kind of prize)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: bitlane on August 28, 2012, 10:02:57 PM
Do I get a prize? (no not that kind of prize)

I vote for you to be warmly rewarded with a co-starring role in the first film production ;)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 28, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
Do I get a prize? (no not that kind of prize)

I vote for you to be warmly rewarded with a co-starring role in the first film production ;)


ahhh c'mon..... my wife would beat me.... :P


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: cablepair on August 29, 2012, 12:47:10 AM
Selling GLBSE shares to change your sex so you can star in pornography?

I am sorry but this is just plain wrong.

ill buy 100 btc worth of shares if you change your mind about this.

I know this is going to cause everyone to freak out - but have you ever thought that maybe God (however you understand him)
created you the way you are for a reason?

Do you realize that this is a major drastic change and you will never be the same physically or mentally again? Or that your idea of a "career" is only likely to last a few years at the most?

Is it really worth it?


(looks at the previous posts and sees a lot of "curiosity" around here...)  :-\



Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: jbreher on August 29, 2012, 01:55:47 AM
I know this is going to cause everyone to freak out - but have you ever thought that maybe God (however you understand him)
created you the way you are for a reason?

It may come as a shock, but not everyone shares a belief in your specific god. Even if they did, if god made this person the way she did, why would that god put this idea in someone's head? Perhaps it is god's plan.

Do you realize that this is a major drastic change and you will never be the same physically or mentally again?

I kind of think that's the point. Or have you not noticed the early posts from OP indicating they've always felt this way?

Or that your idea of a "career" is only likely to last a few years at the most?

I may be wrong, but I think the porn angle was merely suggested by a potential investor as a means of capitalizing the operation. I don't this it was in OP's initial proposal. Are you worried the economic lifetime of this unique asset would need to be depreciated at a rate faster than the return?


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 29, 2012, 02:15:49 AM
I may be wrong, but I think the porn angle was merely suggested by a potential investor as a means of capitalizing the operation. I don't this it was in OP's initial proposal. Are you worried the economic lifetime of this unique asset would need to be depreciated at a rate faster than the return?

It was suggested and it was about the only way I see people grabbing shares so I thought, what the heck.

@cablepair - I get where you are coming from and thanks for the concern but I'm pretty set on doing it, I know what the consequences could/will be.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: stratus on August 29, 2012, 02:41:29 AM
I know this is going to cause everyone to freak out - but have you ever thought that maybe God (however you understand him)
created you the way you are for a reason?

God obviously created OP with a female mind and a male body so she would make some nice transexual porn for us. My prayers have been answered!

Quote from: katie.mckinley
It was suggested and it was about the only way I see people grabbing shares so I thought, what the heck.

I thought stocks in your porn career would be more fun, though I could draw up a regular loan/bond contract if you or investors would prefer that. :shrug:


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 29, 2012, 02:45:41 AM
Do I get a prize? (no not that kind of prize)

I vote for you to be warmly rewarded with a co-starring role in the first film production ;)

lol



Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 29, 2012, 03:59:13 PM
Do I get a prize? (no not that kind of prize)

I vote for you to be warmly rewarded with a co-starring role in the first film production ;)

lol





meh


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on August 29, 2012, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: katie.mckinley
It was suggested and it was about the only way I see people grabbing shares so I thought, what the heck.

I thought stocks in your porn career would be more fun, though I could draw up a regular loan/bond contract if you or investors would prefer that. :shrug:

We can draft up another one and then see which one works out for everyone


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: cablepair on August 30, 2012, 05:01:04 AM
how about you stick to the sex you were born as, and you go get some counseling?

Sell shares to help pay for counseling , I will buy some.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: zebedee on August 30, 2012, 01:35:29 PM
how about you stick to the sex you were born as, and you go get some counseling?

Sell shares to help pay for counseling , I will buy some.
Lay off the bigotry please.  More likely you need the help.  But I won't be offering to fund it.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 01, 2012, 06:27:26 PM
I'm still waiting to hear back from GLBSE if they'll allow the IPO or not, I don't want to make it and have it rejected. Blog still hasn't gotten anywhere, I planned on working on it today and I still may get some starting pics done, we'll see how my afternoon goes!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: bitlane on September 01, 2012, 06:38:20 PM
I planned on working on it today and I still may get some starting pics done, we'll see how my afternoon goes!

Wouldn't it be better for you in the long run, if you just chilled on the BEFORE pics etc ?
Remember, once on the Interweb.....it's never officially 'OFF'....ever.

You may want to consider some 'later' progress pics.....but not so much on the beginning of the 'evolution' ;)

Protect yourself now, rather than scramble later.

Just a thought.
bitlane


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 01, 2012, 06:44:24 PM
I planned on working on it today and I still may get some starting pics done, we'll see how my afternoon goes!

Wouldn't it be better for you in the long run, if you just chilled on the BEFORE pics etc ?
Remember, once on the Interweb.....it's never officially 'OFF'....ever.

You may want to consider some 'later' progress pics.....but not so much on the beginning of the 'evolution' ;)

Protect yourself now, rather than scramble later.

Just a thought.
bitlane

Bitlane you are a F***ing genius... I'll post two of my crossdress pics then and that'll be good for a bit...they aren't timestamped though never thought about it when I took them...


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: bitlane on September 01, 2012, 06:50:11 PM
I planned on working on it today and I still may get some starting pics done, we'll see how my afternoon goes!

Wouldn't it be better for you in the long run, if you just chilled on the BEFORE pics etc ?
Remember, once on the Interweb.....it's never officially 'OFF'....ever.

You may want to consider some 'later' progress pics.....but not so much on the beginning of the 'evolution' ;)

Protect yourself now, rather than scramble later.

Just a thought.
bitlane

Bitlane you are a F***ing genius... I'll post two of my crossdress pics then and that'll be good for a bit...they aren't timestamped though never thought about it when I took them...

The last thing you want to find on the web down the road, is some asshole posting a side-by-side of BEFORE/AFTER.

I am an asshole, so I know how they think ;)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 01, 2012, 07:10:43 PM
Alright here are two of my pics, they are less than a year old... I need to find a good blog (other than blogger) to sign up for... Suggestions please?

http://1magehut.com/images/03958394622141377574.jpg (http://1magehut.com/viewer.php?file=03958394622141377574.jpg)

http://1magehut.com/images/30997772913584543535.jpg (http://1magehut.com/viewer.php?file=30997772913584543535.jpg)


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Raoul Duke on September 01, 2012, 07:34:54 PM
Alright here are two of my pics, they are less than a year old... I need to find a good blog (other than blogger) to sign up for... Suggestions please?

Do you have $9 for a domain name?
If so I can setup a self-hosted wordpress blog for you, hosting free of charge.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 01, 2012, 07:36:45 PM
Alright here are two of my pics, they are less than a year old... I need to find a good blog (other than blogger) to sign up for... Suggestions please?

Do you have $9 for a domain name?
If so I can setup a self-hosted wordpress blog for you, hosting free of charge.

I do have $9 in my ING account I believe


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Raoul Duke on September 01, 2012, 07:48:47 PM
Alright here are two of my pics, they are less than a year old... I need to find a good blog (other than blogger) to sign up for... Suggestions please?

Do you have $9 for a domain name?
If so I can setup a self-hosted wordpress blog for you, hosting free of charge.

I do have $9 in my ING account I believe

So, get a domain name somewhere you can use your ING account to pay for it and PM me, I'll setup everything for you. You'll just need to add content.
If you can't find some place to register a domain, PM me the domain you wish to buy and I'll use cinfu to register it and pay with BTC..

You can check the domain prices and availability here: http://www.cinfu.com/domains/


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: makomk on September 01, 2012, 11:58:17 PM
I should note that if you're not careful about how you register your domain, your full name and address will be publicly available to anyone who knows how to use whois. This probably isn't terribly desirable for obvious reasons.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: moni3z on September 03, 2012, 12:06:01 AM
On 420chan/7chan/Tranchan they have unique ways to raise HRT funds.
You could prob start selling hormones online like Inhouse Pharmacy does but for bitcoins (unsure of legality). InHouse is just reselling affiliate pharma marketing drugs like every other online pharmacy. They sold so much HRT they've made an entire site just for Transgender drugs.




Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 03, 2012, 12:41:52 AM
On 420chan/7chan/Tranchan they have unique ways to raise HRT funds.
You could prob start selling hormones online like Inhouse Pharmacy does but for bitcoins (unsure of legality). InHouse is just reselling affiliate pharma marketing drugs like every other online pharmacy. They sold so much HRT they've made an entire site just for Transgender drugs.




flaxceed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24196.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24196.0) is selling prescription stuff so you may be able to team up. He might have good suppliers for that sort of thing.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 05, 2012, 11:14:04 AM
On 420chan/7chan/Tranchan they have unique ways to raise HRT funds.
You could prob start selling hormones online like Inhouse Pharmacy does but for bitcoins (unsure of legality). InHouse is just reselling affiliate pharma marketing drugs like every other online pharmacy. They sold so much HRT they've made an entire site just for Transgender drugs.




flaxceed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24196.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24196.0) is selling prescription stuff so you may be able to team up. He might have good suppliers for that sort of thing.

I might have a chat with him! Thanks everyone for all the suggestions/help!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 06, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
I'm still waiting to hear back about GLBSE...

Until then I came up with an interesting idea no idea if it is possible... hear me out...

I like BDSM specifically Bondage so I was thinking get a F***ing Machine or Milking Machine or something along those lines (Suggestions could be taken as well), then We'll hook them up to a microprocessor as well as the device that would hold me and then for a set amount of time I'll stream live on my website (still figuring this out) and on the site you could donate bitcoin which would allow you to add time to the machine.

I didn't know if it was possible to see how much bitcoin was donated and however much was donated got translated into time by the microcontroller. There would be a max time reachable (I couldn't spend an entire two days bound up in a machine....not yet anyway).


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on September 06, 2012, 05:17:40 PM
OMG.... You'll be the next Goatse


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 06, 2012, 05:34:59 PM
OMG.... You'll be the next Goatse
No idea what that is...


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 06, 2012, 05:42:29 PM
OMG.... You'll be the next Goatse
No idea what that is...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Goatse
I didn't say I wouldn't look it up myself, I just said I don't know what that is... but I have always hoped someone would do the "Let Me Google That For You" on me!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on September 06, 2012, 09:38:25 PM
No denying it after viewing the image? :D


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: thebaron on September 06, 2012, 10:49:35 PM
You can stick things up your ass without becoming KirkJ (http://www.xtube.com/community/profile.php?user=KirkJ). I've stuck fists and a dildo wider than a Coke can up there and I can still hold in my poop and farts just fine.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on September 06, 2012, 11:00:47 PM
You can stick things up your ass without becoming KirkJ (http://www.xtube.com/community/profile.php?user=KirkJ). I've stuck fists and a dildo wider than a Coke can up there and I can still hold in my poop and farts just fine.


Holy crap......... the shit you read on the bitcoin forum... :P


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: Raoul Duke on September 06, 2012, 11:04:57 PM
You can stick things up your ass without becoming KirkJ (http://www.xtube.com/community/profile.php?user=KirkJ). I've stuck fists and a dildo wider than a Coke can up there and I can still hold in my poop and farts just fine.

Spare us the details, please.  :P


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 07, 2012, 04:38:30 PM
You can stick things up your ass without becoming KirkJ (http://www.xtube.com/community/profile.php?user=KirkJ). I've stuck fists and a dildo wider than a Coke can up there and I can still hold in my poop and farts just fine.

Spare us the details, please.  :P

+1


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 08, 2012, 12:36:25 PM
Update: I made an appointment for the doctor to talk to him on Monday to see about hormones and getting them the right way vs. the internet. I'd rather be safe than sorry!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on September 08, 2012, 01:46:35 PM
Or get a doctors prescription for the proper hormones and purchase off the internet once you have the prescription and doctors advice.....





Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: greyhawk on September 08, 2012, 02:45:24 PM
On 420chan/7chan/Tranchan they have unique ways to raise HRT funds.
You could prob start selling hormones online like Inhouse Pharmacy does but for bitcoins (unsure of legality). InHouse is just reselling affiliate pharma marketing drugs like every other online pharmacy. They sold so much HRT they've made an entire site just for Transgender drugs.




flaxceed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24196.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24196.0) is selling prescription stuff so you may be able to team up. He might have good suppliers for that sort of thing.

Most of his stuff are very obvious fakes. I would strongly advise against acquiring hormones from a source like that.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on September 08, 2012, 02:50:30 PM
Fakes can be the identical drug with no name on it....


Because a pair of jeans don't say Levi on them does that make them fake jeans?


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: greyhawk on September 08, 2012, 05:50:41 PM
Fakes can be the identical drug with no name on it....


Because a pair of jeans don't say Levi on them does that make them fake jeans?

I'm not talking generics or clones. I'm talking fakes without/with less/with false active ingredients.

WHO has identified more than 70% of drugs sold in Thailand being falsified with mostly no active ingredients.

In his old big thread flaxceed was selling preparations that had not been produced by their company for years. Considering the black market for these specific preparations has been dry for years too with only fakes without active ingredients flooding the market, I find it very unlikely he somehow stumbled across a deserted pharmacy full of the stuff.

Granted his new thread is free of this, but then again he reduced his product palette quite a bit to pretty standard stuff that's quite easily obtained from just about everywhere.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on September 08, 2012, 06:25:26 PM
Oh sorry... :P


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 11, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
Doctor visit went alright...one issue is when I was born I had heart murmurs so he wouldn't suggest I take full doses of hormones, so he didn't think I would really get any of the effects that I want and said I may run risks... So its really up to me do I want to attempt to do this and run some risks or just live with myself like I've been doing.. I'm almost positive running the risk of complications would be worth it to me but there is that tiniest bit of doubt... I'll be thinking it over and I'll get back here shortly with my decision...

Thanks for all the support and encouragement no matter what decision I make!


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 14, 2012, 01:05:35 PM
So after much thinking, I'll be going with what the doctor said... T-T So no loan will be needed... Thanks for the support everyone!

Edit:
You know what...F the doctor...Lets see what I can get out of it...


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: AndrewBUD on September 15, 2012, 01:17:02 PM
Why not get a second opinion ?


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: thebaron on September 16, 2012, 12:05:08 AM
He doesn't wanna get sued is all.


Title: Re: Long Term Loan for TS Transition
Post by: katie.mckinley on September 19, 2012, 06:31:30 PM
He doesn't wanna get sued is all.

Probably... Anyway I will get a second opinion but from what I know doctors want to lean towards being cautious so I'm not expecting a different reactions than the first...just gotta get another appointment set for a different doctor