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Yeah, yeah, I know there is another election thread already, but I figured we needed a comprehensive poll...I fit as many options as I could (ok, I got bored halfway through and lumped all the independants together..but really,  who votes independant?).

So vote away, and if I left something/someone out, or got something wrong, let me know.

 I'm going to keep bumping this every now and then* to get a feel of the forums general opinion, and to see how that changes as we get closer to election day.

On election day, I'll lock the poll at the same time as the real polls close (probably),  and we will all see how wrong we were. Feel free to argue politics below....or just vote anonymously, whatever works for you.



Sorry in advance to those in other countries..just vote that you hate us, and ignore the thread.  :)







_{* a lot.....like, an obnoxious amount}

If only this were a representation of the actual votes.

I go libertarian, but if I had to pick a different party I would go with the greens. The country would be so much better if it was a choice between those two parties instead of the D/R.

Definitely.

Looks like there is a three way tie so far between green party, libertarians, and foreigners hating us...sounds about right. The democrats and Republicans fall behind...if only it were so easy to overthrow the two party system.....

Bleh. A socially conservative mormon or an idealistic socialist. Tough choice, but I'd have to go with Romney. He ain't got nothin on church and state.

Wow you left out Ron Paul? really?

What the fuck. Where is Ron Paul? Do you work at Fox news per chance?

He was screwed over and can't be elected.

Write in?

Otherwise, he's not on the ballot. At all. Republicans and Libertarians both have thier candidates chosen, so, unless he runs independant (which hasn't been announced), he is out of the race. If he announces otherwise, I will add him to the poll.

However, that means Rosanne (yes, that Rosanne) has more of a chance of winning (actually being on a ballot) than Ron Paul.

Which is hilarious.



Did you guys really not know that?

I'm a Social Democrat who is voting Green Party... So, no?

I'm pretty sure Fox News would try to sacrifice me to Dick Cheney.



Or Bill O'Reilly...


...Maybe Glen Beck.

I'm proud, you guys. "Fuck voting" is now in the lead.

I like how it doesn't matter what people think, since public vote doesn't actually matter for the presidential election. I'm going to sit here and enjoy my ice cream.

The Rock isn't running for president yet? Sucks..
I picked the ice cream.

Looks like libertarians are in the lead, with fuck voting, and other countries hating us trailing close behind.....

And ice cream is finally getting some love, tying with the major parties  ;D

Why should I care what anarchists think if when we ASK their opinions, they refuse to provide them? If your goal is to protest democracy, then you can write-in a fellow anarchist.

If we lived in Anarchy Land, I would move to a private community where we voted on things. I wouldn't "refuse to legitimize" the status quo and not participate, which is indistinguishable from the vast majority of people who just don't care about politics.

That's like asking a vegetarian which meat they prefer.

So they can
* write in "vegetables" and everyone knows how many are vegetarian, or
* whine about the question and get counted as "ok with all meats"

You left out:
* convince other people meats are bad for your health, and that picking a favorite meat only encourages heart disease.

To further stretch this metaphor, picking a favorite meat is even more ridiculous when the healthy meats like chicken and fish are kept out of the contest by encouraging the idea that it's only a contest between bacon and beef.

That third option is identical to my second one. Whining about the question. If you pick "vegetables" as your favorite meat it's obvious to everyone that you're really a vegetarian.

What does refusing to vote tell everyone else? That there's no pleasing those vegetarians. Until we redefine the dialog under their terms, they'll stamp their feet and pout their lips, unwilling to dignify our question with an answer. Why compromise with people who won't reciprocate?

By convincing otherwise third-party voters to stay home, YOU'RE promoting the two-party sytem. Even if you're the only person voting for an anarchist and it doesn't show up on the final tally, it still decreases the percentage of total votes supporting Obama/Romney - gets counted as "none of the above" instead of "any of the above".

I like turtles.

You make a good point. But not every state allows write-in votes, and if there's a 3% voter turnout, that speaks just as strongly.

All of them are jokes, puppets or just plain retards.... not much choice.

Actually, Romney is NOT YET the GOP nominee.

You left out Jimmy Puma of the All Night Party.

But the media does not report the voter turnout, they report the percentage of votes cast. And whoever wins, if people just stay home rater than voting third party, the winner will say "I got over 50% of the vote so I have a MANDATE to do whatever the fuck I want". When they only get a plurality of votes instead of a majority they can't say that as much. (Not that it really affects what they do, just how it is percieved)

Technically, obama isn't the dem nominee yet either, but they are both the presumptive nominees, and will undoubtedly be the ones to represent their respective parties.

Who?

Bump

Current standings:

Gary Johnson (Libertarian)    - 16 (23.9%)
Fuck voting, they all suck    - 14 (20.9%)
I dont live in the USA, and I hate you all    - 9 (13.4%)
Barack Obama (Democrat)    - 7 (10.4%)
I like ice cream.    - 6 (9%)
Mitt Romney (Republican)    - 5 (7.5%)
Jill Stein (Green)    - 4 (6%)
Write in vote    - 3 (4.5%)
Rocky Anderson (Justice)    - 1 (1.5%)
Peta Lindsay (Socialism and Liberation)    - 1 (1.5%)
Rosanne Barr (Peace and Freedom)    - 1 (1.5%)

Ice cream is beating Mitt.

I love you guys.


   

Writing in ole Ron Paul...lol

Bump for more voting....

ok fine. Ron Paul.

wrote in ron paul on my ballet

48 days....

Well the major candidates are tied but fall short of the libertarian candidate and the comedy options.

Bumping for more voting....

Please, can some other person besides a republican or democrat get voted.. Such as Jill Stein or the Libertarian dude. Peace

Bump for debate night....

Bah it's pure bullshit. They're scared to debate a third-party candidate with any integrity. Middle class middle class middle class fuck the lower class

If anyone wants to see a good debate, it's October 23 (http://freeandequal.org/debates/four-candidates-confirmed-for-the-2012-presidential-debate). For some reason Obamney hasn't confirmed his attendance...

i hate mitt romney the least. i like gary johnson, but i'll vote for mitt. i like obama the least because some i don't even know.

and rosanne barr. ROFLMAO wth???? yeah, democrats, go vote for her ok? have fun.

i want herman cain, but you would probably just call him an uncle tom since you called obama a nigga.

I will not vote for Magic Underpants. However if the Ficus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqa_bhwA-1E) was in the list...

Looks like the first debate didn't change much for the two major parties (at least here on bitcointalk) but the reaction to the Sesame Street thing has been pretty funny though


#occupysesamestreet

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/3/23/enhanced-buzz-18463-1349322585-2.jpg

http://blog.chron.com/nickanderson/files/2012/10/and100512blog.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LtBggkGCHNk/TpMd90g11UI/AAAAAAAAHqI/XzN-TAfFzxY/s1600/2011%2BOccupy%2BSesame%2BStreet%2Bcollage%2Bfor%2Bmylivetube.jpg

Hey, where's the option for us foreigners who do live in the USA and hate you all anyway?




j/k :D

Ummm... move back to where you are more comfortable?? hahaha j/k.

michael moore the media whore who couldn't turn down a plate of chicken
with his greasy thighs and vicious lies he stops for finger lickin

why would anyone listen to an anti-capitalist who loves money? he's a hypocrite.

What makes you think I'd be more comfortable there?

Seriously, I don't hate Americans. There's no way I'm moving back to the UK either way* though.




*The way things currently are anyway.

congratulations on coming here! we got guns!

who knows. i was only going by what you were saying. the only time i don't like people coming here is when they're getting a free ride, which i'm sure you're not. one side says 'hey! all of our natural resources are almost gone! americans must stop using them!' and then the same people turn around and say, 'hey come right in and use every thing we have. you don't have to prove you're here legally. just use it all!'

go figure.

its a global market these days, it dont really matter where someone is

i think you missed my point.

I think I missed my point

if someone is willing to buy resources that originated in USA, they can be shipped overseas.

the rest of my point is I guess harder to explain. China became more market liberal in recent decades increasing their citizens standard of living. USA over time won't be a place people go to because it has the highest standard of living

No matter your political views, Mitt Romney agrees with you!
http://www.roboromney.com/

I declare Gary Johnson beats all the fuckers!

Post debate bump

Don't forget ice cream. Ice cream is a pretty strong third place.

This thing deserves a bump.

Last night I watched the Free & Equal third party debate. The whole time I kept thinking "I can't believe how much better ALL of these candidates are than Obama and Romney."

For starters they all opposed the NDAA, which both Obama and Romney declined to mention during their debate. All but Virgil Goode were in favor of legalizing cannabis, and he just doesn't want to waste federal money on a failed drug war. They all want to slash military spending, which Obama and Romney both want to maintain. It's shocking to me that most Americans can bear to look in the mirror after supporting Obama and Romney.

Bump...less than 2 weeks!!

Both candidates are NWO operatives. One wants to help the poor just a tad and the other wants nothing to do with the bums.

No voting for me.. :/

Well, you could always vote for one of the others, and if Johnson gets just 5% of the popular vote, the Libertarian party will qualify for federal matching funds, and we might be able to finally break out of this double-headed coin flip we're stuck in.

Of course, I'm not voting for entirely different reasons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agorism), but if you still believe voting is worthwhile, then no reason not to cast it for someone who might actually make a difference.

If it were up to me, I'd change the entire system to a sortition based government. Essentially, it is government by lottery; the officials we currently elect would be replaced by random eligible citizens, sort of like jury duty. Get rid of the party system altogether, and replace it with a real sampling of the American public.

No way in hell a change that drastic will happen though.

Hamilton was an elitist asshole. He believed in strong central government. The result of his policies run loose is visible all around.

I'm going to assume Alexander Hamilton had better grammar skills than that and the quote was actually "Your people, sir, is a great beast".  I somehow doubt he called Jefferson "people".

Well, we're hardly a representative sample, but a very small one, based on the poll here. :)

If you check out data regarding non-voters you'll see they're starting to outnumber the people who do vote..... When the UK general election comes round I am so going to mock the main parties if they bother to knock.

ONE MORE DAY!!!!!!

Yup, tomorrow is Election Day....i think we are going to need a mop for all the collective tears on the forum....personally, I can't wait to hear 4 more years of bitching and conspiracy theories about whichever asshat wins.

That said, I'll be voting tomorrow (my state votes on fully legalized weed this election, and it stands a decent chance of passing) so see ya at the polls! (except you "fuck voting" guys...I'll see you at Starbucks or something)

Yeah, if I were in CO, WA, or OR (I think those are the states), I'd definitely be voting, essentially just for that. Most of the offices would get a "none of the above" write-in or something of the sort, Any tax increase or tighter regulation of X, Y or Z would get a "NO," and any attempt to remove legislation or legalize something would get a "YES."

So that's my recommendations for tomorrow.
New law or new/increased tax: NO.
Get rid of old law or reduce/eliminate tax: YES.
Legalize Marijuana (if applicable): YES.
Offices and positions(including Prez): Libertarian or "NOTA."

Election Day bump!!!

http://i46.tinypic.com/t9z22t.jpg

The deed is done...

So, how's it feel, knowing that you've instructed men with guns to enforce your opinions on others?

Don't know, there is not such an option like "I don't live in the us, I don't hate you"?

I hope that you don't think that for real. In that case, well, maybe you should start reflecting over the propaganda you take every day.

Refusing to participate doesn't stop the men with guns, it just takes your voice out of the equation. Also, it would be moronic to not vote when my state voting on legalizing marijuana. ;)

So I feel great, actually.

Nah, it was just a joke

Like voting, not voting works best when done en masse. Of course, you make a fine point in that you can also instruct the men with guns to stop enforcing their opinions on others. Like I said up above, voting to shoot down a new law or tax or to repeal an old one is probably the only moral vote.

From your mouth to Great Lord Chthulu's auditory canal. Ia!

Bump

I still want an "I Vetoed" sticker.  ;D

Im closing the poll in a few hours, get your Bitcoin Election votes in now (or the terrorists win..or something....I don't know)

So will you be waiting for those slackers in California, Alaska, and Hawaii, or will you be closing it 7 Colorado time?

Nah, I'm waiting for Hawaii (if I remember to shut it down at the right time). Gotta give Hawaiian bitcoiners a chance to vote in the forum elections too...

I should've turned this into a betting thread....I would've put up 1 btc for Obama to win.

Then again, we all know how the last betting thread turned out (I'm looking at you Matthew) lol

Co projected to pass prop 64: amendment to legalize recreational use of marijuana....fuck yeah!!!!!!!

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/298251/139/Colorado-voters-pass-Amendment-64

Yup, welcome to amsterdenver!

On a completely unrelated note, can I crash at your place for a while?

;)

Welp, I decided to close the polls since the race is now over.... Obama is our president for 4 more years.


Soooo, how does everyone feel?

I'm sure I'm going to get asked that a lot, lol.

Meh. Goldman Sachs wins again. Business as usual. The one ray of hope I see is with several states voting for legalization or decriminalization of marijuana, Perhaps Obama will finally use some of that political capital he's been saving to push through national legalization. Not like he needs it to get re-elected, and it would be a nice thank you to all the stoners who voted him a job for 4 more years.

Cory Doctorow just summed it up nicely on Twitter: "Amazing to think that I'm relieved at the victory of the pro-wiretapping, pro-extrajudicial-assassination, anti-whistleblower candidate"
"Amazing to think I'm relieved at victory for the pro-TransPacificPartnership, pro-domain-seizure, pro-RIAA candidate"

Obama was (and will be) bad, but Romney straight-up scared the shit out of me.

Edit: And Johnson made a respectable showing. Not quite the 5% we were hoping for, but not bad.

Looks like BTC is on its way up today...