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Hello there i know im a new user but i could really use a loan of 2.37 bitcoins and can pay you back 4 bitcoins in a week or less  8) so if you decide to help me give me a pm or reply to this thread thanks i would really like to build a rep on this forum but i am broke right now thanks for your time.

sure sounds trustworthy.

well we all gotta start somewhere dude  8)

anybody please  ???

You need some reputation BEFORE you can ask for a loan .... it's simple because you get a credit rating based on your reputation.

Furthermore you are offering 68,77% interest, that's staggering !  ;)

For what reason do you need these coins ?

Why should anybody trust you ?

Are you willing to provide a scan of your ID (or a photo with a shoe on your head) ?
(ID scan only to serious investors, private message only)


I'm pretty broke right now,
just wanted to give you an advice how things are working.
 :)

haha i can give my id number if needed

That's a lot of interest...it seems a little fishy.  :-\.

I was being sarcastic.

I don't think that he was joking. You're new. You have no reputation. You want a big loan. You will need to provide some evidence that the id number, you are willing to give, really belongs to you. Like a photo with your id card next to your face and some kind of "unique" photo as the requested "shoe on head" to proof the id photo isn't stolen from someone else.

thats not that much interest imo i borrow 25 dollars i pay back 40 dollars

You still didn't answer why anyone should trust you and what you need the loan for.

well i am looking to build up rep and i really need some ram for my computer

Why not wait a week when you can buy the ram yourself?

cuz i could really use it now    :'(

You can't wait a week? You could buy better ram then, or more.

What do you really want the coins for?

ram that's what i need willing to payback 4 btc really quickly

This one's obvious guys. Watch out.

really just cuz i am new to a forum im a scammer makes no sense to me  ???

And yet again...... you did not answer why anyone should trust you.


As said before, a simple (made up,stolen,faked) ID number won't do it. Make it a scan of your real id and a unique photo of you doing something and you have a deal.


It's been done many times before, you are not the first one signing up here and instantly asking for a loan. So the answer is YES, you smell like a scammer (a 12 year old scammer who uses "cuz"). You're the new guy asking for a loan, promising 160% refund but you are refusing to provide any security at all...

If you're not a scammer, why do you keep acting stupid on purpose then?

Where do you want to buy the ram?

and you sound like a nerd who gets off over spelling and grammar  oh yes dictionary let  me slap my small little dick to your hard cover.

Okay...

Sounds like someone is crying.

U speaka gooda Engrish fo person froma Nigeria.

For BTC5 sir, I will gladly lend you BTC2.37.
16rsqN1eUxdzKswAkdw2maZL6JsnXzZfMH - Just let me know when you send it.

haha - it works the other way round - its the other guy who gives the address and rceives s the money 1st..

I sent btcbeast 2.37 btc .

Waiting to receive 4 btc on Mon/Tue Sep 3rd or 4th.

Whoever has the power to add a [[FILLED]] to the thread's subject - do it.

Can you show us the transaction on http://blockexplorer.com?

Maybe newly signed up nick "intel-core-i7" is the same person as btcbeast.  ;)

alright i will pay you back in a week waiting on the bit coins to get here.

Aug 27th was a monday. Today the 3rd of Sep is a monday - @btcbeast - when would I be paid back ? Thanks man.

Yep.

transaction id or it didn't happen

I can give the id - but why?

Is this because of the credit rating ?

If so - how would you know its not the same user with two btc addresses of his own ?

Anyways - neither I nor btcbeast care about the credit rating so much at the moment... 2.37 btc is so little...

Stop bullshiting, btcbeast wants 2.37 BTC, if you are the same person, then you don't have the money >:(

Today is 3 September, you must show us the "Sent Transaction" and btcbeast must show till tomorrow the "Sent Transaction".

+1 lol

we got Nigerian scammers on the board apparently...

 I urgently need a 19.99 BTC loan for a thai massage. Its a medical need, i have severe backache   :-\
Will pay 69 BTC back on Monday, Pirates word of honour.
BTC address in my sig.

I am willing to give you the BTC only in small cash say 0.00001 units per transacton, if this is fine with you?
 :-*

Wow! This is my first time looking in the n00b forum, and am amazed that someone would just come on a forum and ask if they could bum $25. Kinda speaks to how awesome bitcoin is that it makes internet panhandling possible.

You are a idiot. 

I PM-ed a bit with the guy. He seems legit and honest to me.

Although since he is nowhere to be found 2 days after the deadline  - making me kinda nervous...

Here is the transaction info.

Status: 1413 confirmations
Date: 27 Aug 2012 16:51
To: btcbeast 15uWSH8aKEowSJoWctnvqKcrMH8b6kb1SG
Debit: -2.37 BTC
Net amount: -2.37 BTC
Transaction ID: 3cbec61e475e00ff404906738a2d8e2903a26962b011033ff817a5c91fe85537


And please somebody tell me why do I need to post it here ? What does it prove?


Where can I read more about the p2p loan system we have in the forum ?

Will think about it

It helps transparency and establishes a culture of trust in the community.

I catched btcbeast on BTC-E chat, he told me he paid the 4 BTC to intel-core-i7...

Waiting to see the transaction come into my wallet.

Its good news he is willing to pay - after not responding here.



Spenzert - can you ask him to post the transaction id here - so that I can check if sth went wrong ?

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EDIT: I think he used the wrong btc address to send to. Why did  not he answer my PM-s here ?

Anyways I am waiting to contact him over PM/email . When we have a transaction id to show - will post here.

BTC-E Chat:
https://i.imgur.com/jLEHw.png
https://i.imgur.com/jcQpE.png
https://i.imgur.com/MAmAK.png
Probably he scammed you, he was trying to create a Bank Account ???

Everyone can create an account, make 11 posts and be nice with you...
He probably were on BTC-E trying to sell your Bitcoins... :-X

well of course everyone can be nice. But I've questioned him in PM-s about several things and by the logical (where he works, age, town etc... ) and subconscious layers (I just feel when a man is honest/dishonest - call me a psychic :) ) ...  so it was clear that he wont scam me...

Lets say I made an experiment with human kind's inherent honesty :)

so today I received this email:

On Fri, September 7, 2012 04:18, Btc Beast wrote:
> yeah dude wow i sent the bitcoin to the address you gave me before must
> have fucked it up fml dude sorry.
>

And now we will find what went wrong and think how to fix it...

Seriously for 10-20 usd the time wasted is not even worth it :)

But in the end if all goes well - I made 1-2 new friends..

Including me ;D
Where did he sent the Bitcoins?

Edit: I catched btcbeast again lol, intel-core-i7 go on BTC-E Chat, you may catch him online :)

lol hit me up ill send the coins again

@btcbeast

send them to 1BuJWM8zZFwSTdiqKCTRnNpdqoxisvQWBU

After you send or after I receive - we will post the transaction details here to clean you name.

OK.

I gave you another address over email - whichever of the two u use - I will receive the coins .

I gave you this one in email: 13TweV2H42ANr4UVkx4AXHkBnH2qpWnr4C

I am gonna hang out in btc-e's chat - additionally mtgox's ANTI-privacy policy makes me hate them and so I will seek alternatives - btc-e seems a good one... needs research

now yahoo returned my email and I post my email text here :
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hi dude, how are you?

I posted in the forum with instructions where to send the coins and what
to do after that to clean your name:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103358.msg1195052#msg1195052

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The reason for return was:

dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (btcbeast@yahoo.com) [-5] -
mta1232.mail.mud.yahoo.com
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creepy... is he gone ?

if he is gone - I will find him one day soon ...

I'll loan you the money....once I make some money  :P

What do you mean? Who are you ?

Thanks.

pm sent

Did btcbeast paid ???

no news from this "youngster".
To refresh where are we currently - he said to me he paid it but I cant see a damn transaction and my balance is unchanged...

I told him that he has made a mistake somehow...

And he said via email "fml - I will pay you again - I have to gather the money..."

fml = fuck my life...




To my request to post the failed/wrong transaction id - nothing...


Will post if sth comes out.

At this point the social experiment failed...  Still a slight chance... though...

In my experiences, getting loans for something you can buy later on with a little patience is not the way to run your finances. Put up some collateral for the loan (like photos mentioned above) or just wait.

It would be very interesting if there were loan sharks out there for the BTC.

If it were possible, someone could make a Credit BTC loan system and ask for rather large interest rates to cover for fluctuations in the market price and against potential losses. It would very probably go against the BTC philosophy, but I wonder if it would be profitable?

The only problem is there is no real enforcement or pressure mechanism to repay BTCredit purchases.

(Unless you have some kind of fiat money "risk pre-payment" system to punish for defaulting or something?)

okay - this guy is now being scammer tagged.

I am gonna post it to the scam forum..

God will return 10 times what he's taken for free. (Unless he returns all in time.)

Everyone can create a fake identity and make a good story, this is what I call "Social Engineering" :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_%28security%29

YASEV - Yet Another Social Engineering Victim

The way to do it would be to have risk pools. High risk pools = high interest rate (essentially those shitty payday loan places). As you prove your reliability and trustworthiness, you move to lower risk and lower interest.

Of course, there will be deadbeats and scammers, possibly some playing the long game. But as long as enough people pay back to cover losses plus a profit, you could still make bank. Not something I would want to put my money in though.

LOL dumbass...  I should just start making shell accounts and begging for 1-2 Bitcoins since there's a never-ending supply of suckers willing to give them away.