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Title: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 22, 2015, 07:05:47 PM From Gavin's Tweet, blog, and Coindesk:
https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/590884520318078976 http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-core-developers-join-mit-digital-currency-initiative/?utm_content=buffer00a5a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Sayonara Bitcoin Foundation! The only thing you were good for, Bitcoin Core, is now in the hands of MIT. All in all, great news for Bitcoin overall, as Gavin and company will have state of the art facilities to work from and much needed funding for the Bitcoin project. This also means MIT will be highly networked with universities across the globe, meaning Bitcoin will grow exponentially faster than if they stayed with the Bitcoin Foundation. Kudos Gavin! Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: D05GTO on April 22, 2015, 07:45:54 PM Yeah, I'd say that's pretty big news. They need some stability for sure.
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Lethn on April 22, 2015, 08:00:45 PM Uh oh....
http://www.coindesk.com/mit-digital-currency-policy-standards-research/ Quote The news was first detailed in a post penned by former White House senior advisor and Digital Currency Initiative director Brian Forde, who today officially joined the university-run research laboratory. Not sure how I feel about this, sounds to me like the U.S government is getting far too closely involved with the Bitcoin source code. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: 1Referee on April 22, 2015, 08:08:33 PM Time will tell if MIT will be a better option than the so hated Bitcoin Foundation. From what I understand this looks like a step forward.
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 22, 2015, 08:12:32 PM wot is mit You don't know mit? It's a leather glove used for catching baseballs or softballs. https://s3.amazonaws.com/bdcwire-static-content/uploads/2015/01/you-know-nothing-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-gif.gif Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 22, 2015, 08:13:43 PM wot is mit Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it is the university where the top tier of students go who are training in technology fields.The Harvard of technology if you will. kingcolex, obvious 1 post 0 activity troll is obvious. ;D Don't feeed them!!! 8) Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: nextgencoin on April 22, 2015, 08:15:00 PM When will people stop being impressed by 'big names' and 'powerful' organisations and start thinking most of them have your welfare as last on one big friken list of priorities. Its embarrassing to read on a Bitcoin forum. A desperate need to be accepted by the powers this technology is designed to fight. Who do you think groups like the NSA get all their tech knowledge to screw the hell out of you on a daily basis.
Damn it people, get some balls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Wonka on April 22, 2015, 08:15:44 PM I guess Gavin needs to get paid? I hope the foundation goes the way of the dodo which it probably will if they can't afford to pay their members.
wot is mit Mit Romney. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 22, 2015, 08:20:18 PM When will people stop being impressed by 'big names' and 'powerful' organisations and start thinking most of them have your welfare as last on one big friken list of priorities. Its embarrassing to read on a Bitcoin forum. A desperate need to be accepted by the powers this technology is designed to fight. Who do you think groups like the NSA get all their tech knowledge to screw the hell out of you on a daily basis. Damn it people, get some balls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw Acceptance, pfft. It's a matter of survival. Without funding and adequate facilities, the core devs wouldn't be able to make the updates that we desperately need. Nothing to do with powers that be. It's all about money, something that the Bitcoin Foundation ran out of. http://www.ibtimes.com/bitcoin-foundation-effectively-bankrupt-considers-restructuring-report-1871683 Can't have your Bitcoin Core wallet updates on a negative budget... Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Eastfist on April 22, 2015, 08:55:25 PM I never personally liked Gavin. He's loving being the prom queen too much. And I think he's being way overpaid. I think he'll stretch out development as long as possible to maximize stuffing his own pockets. If I had to analyze Gavin's true motives, he only cares about the attention and the money. He doesn't care if he was working on Bitcoin or some massive secret government project, as long as they pay him and put a camera in his face, he'll be flaunting that tiara hard.
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 22, 2015, 09:16:48 PM I never personally liked Gavin. He's loving being the prom queen too much. And I think he's being way overpaid. I think he'll stretch out development as long as possible to maximize stuffing his own pockets. If I had to analyze Gavin's true motives, he only cares about the attention and the money. He doesn't care if he was working on Bitcoin or some massive secret government project, as long as they pay him and put a camera in his face, he'll be flaunting that tiara hard. Gripes about Gavin aside, what about the other Bitcoin core devs? You don't think they deserve to be paid either? What about Wladimir van der Laan and Cory Fields? Do they continue writing code pro bono? Some posters have to read the articles and the whole story before posting.... Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Eastfist on April 22, 2015, 09:36:31 PM I never personally liked Gavin. He's loving being the prom queen too much. And I think he's being way overpaid. I think he'll stretch out development as long as possible to maximize stuffing his own pockets. If I had to analyze Gavin's true motives, he only cares about the attention and the money. He doesn't care if he was working on Bitcoin or some massive secret government project, as long as they pay him and put a camera in his face, he'll be flaunting that tiara hard. Gripes about Gavin aside, what about the other Bitcoin core devs? You don't think they deserve to be paid either? What about Wladimir van der Laan and Cory Fields? Do they continue writing code pro bono? Some posters have to read the articles and the whole story before posting.... The core devs should be paid if they're doing it full-time and not volunteering. In the beginning, it was not paid. It was just to see if the whole thing would work. Once you start getting paid, then the person paying you can drive the narrative. Which is what we see now. Doesn't matter if the core devs "moved" from The Bitcoin Foundation, now the MIT Lab will have their own agenda. And the beat goes on... Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 22, 2015, 10:07:10 PM LOL I don't see how this is anything but good news. People want Bitcoin to succeed, but don't want certain entities or forces to "drive" it.
Shit ain't free, man. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: coinpr0n on April 22, 2015, 10:08:34 PM Good for Gavin and nice to see MIT continuing to promote Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Mehek on April 22, 2015, 10:10:40 PM From Gavin's Tweet, blog, and Coindesk: maybe it is the time when btc will again start its train journey to upwardhttps://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/590884520318078976 http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-core-developers-join-mit-digital-currency-initiative/?utm_content=buffer00a5a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Sayonara Bitcoin Foundation! The only thing you were good for, Bitcoin Core, is now in the hands of MIT. All in all, great news for Bitcoin overall, as Gavin and company will have state of the art facilities to work from and much needed funding for the Bitcoin project. This also means MIT will be highly networked with universities across the globe, meaning Bitcoin will grow exponentially faster than if they stayed with the Bitcoin Foundation. Kudos Gavin! Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: TheButterZone on April 22, 2015, 10:25:32 PM maybe it is the time when btc will again start its train journey to upward That time will be when No-Bid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1028521.0) is fully operational. I don't see MIT diverting resources from Bitcoin Core to work on it. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Kakmakr on April 23, 2015, 10:23:56 AM I was hoping for a whole lot more decentralization of the core development on a global front, not centralization in a single country. The salaries could have been crowd funded and the development could have been done in a geographical decentralized manner. There are too many countries holding back on Bitcoin, based on their concerns with the USA being in control of the core development. ^very sad^
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: pawel7777 on April 23, 2015, 10:34:37 AM I was hoping for a whole lot more decentralization of the core development on a global front, not centralization in a single country. The salaries could have been crowd funded and the development could have been done in a geographical decentralized manner. There are too many countries holding back on Bitcoin, based on their concerns with the USA being in control of the core development. ^very sad^ And what's stopping anyone from outside US from becoming dev and others from crowd-funding their salaries? It's an open source project. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Q7 on April 23, 2015, 01:46:20 PM I'm glad he made the right decision. Leaving the foundation is the only best thing to do and having done in the interest of bitcoin. I'm sure at MIT they will have all the necessary resource and support to continue their works to make bitcoin even better and especially now minus the politically-minded, power hungry people. I think by itself that is already considered bullish news for bitcoin.
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: yayayo on April 23, 2015, 02:09:15 PM I never personally liked Gavin. He's loving being the prom queen too much. And I think he's being way overpaid. I think he'll stretch out development as long as possible to maximize stuffing his own pockets. If I had to analyze Gavin's true motives, he only cares about the attention and the money. He doesn't care if he was working on Bitcoin or some massive secret government project, as long as they pay him and put a camera in his face, he'll be flaunting that tiara hard. Gripes about Gavin aside, what about the other Bitcoin core devs? You don't think they deserve to be paid either? What about Wladimir van der Laan and Cory Fields? Do they continue writing code pro bono? Some posters have to read the articles and the whole story before posting.... The core devs should be paid if they're doing it full-time and not volunteering. In the beginning, it was not paid. It was just to see if the whole thing would work. Once you start getting paid, then the person paying you can drive the narrative. Which is what we see now. Doesn't matter if the core devs "moved" from The Bitcoin Foundation, now the MIT Lab will have their own agenda. And the beat goes on... I agree with you, Eastfist. To me, Gavin seems to be very conformist and sometimes even narcissistically ignorant when following his own agenda. It seems to me that he likes to grab power. Other devs have made contributions of equal importance without that attitude. We should not forget, that it was Gavin's idea to establish The Bitcoin Foundation. Now he leaves his project in a state of ruin and heads over to the next organization willing to pay for him. He should at least officially admit that founding TBF was a mistake. I was hoping for a whole lot more decentralization of the core development on a global front, not centralization in a single country. The salaries could have been crowd funded and the development could have been done in a geographical decentralized manner. There are too many countries holding back on Bitcoin, based on their concerns with the USA being in control of the core development. ^very sad^ Exactly. We don't need organizations to fund Bitcoin. Depending on organizations that work in US jurisdictions is even more problematic indeed. In fact, Bitcoin makes crowdfunding development easier than ever before. So why not use Bitcoin to fund Bitcoin? ya.ya.yo! Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2015, 02:30:54 PM @yayayo Gavin leaving the Bitcoin Foundation is essentially admitting TBF is a mistake.
Look who they put in charge! None other than that pedophile Brock Pierce: http://www.coindesk.com/brock-pierce-bitcoin-foundation-board-chairman/ Where is this crowdfunding going towards Bitcoin that you speak of? There's nothing coming in. It takes substantial money and resources to lead and develop a project of this magnitude. Gavin was in the absolute right to leave TBF, and landing/partnering at MIT Media Labs of all places, is an absolute godsend. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: nextgencoin on April 23, 2015, 03:00:04 PM @yayayo Gavin leaving the Bitcoin Foundation is essentially admitting TBF is a mistake. Look who they put in charge! None other than that pedophile Brock Pierce: http://www.coindesk.com/brock-pierce-bitcoin-foundation-board-chairman/ Where is this crowdfunding going towards Bitcoin that you speak of? There's nothing coming in. It takes substantial money and resources to lead and develop a project of this magnitude. Gavin was in the absolute right to leave TBF, and landing/partnering at MIT Media Labs of all places, is an absolute godsend. Thats great Gavin gets paid. Phew. Got to love short term thinking. Look if Bitcoin needed funds for any development it could of been found rather than go to the people that are more than likely gonna get tapped to hack, recreate it or worse. Hooray for shortsighted planning. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: nextgencoin on April 23, 2015, 03:07:45 PM I was hoping for a whole lot more decentralization of the core development on a global front, not centralization in a single country. The salaries could have been crowd funded and the development could have been done in a geographical decentralized manner. There are too many countries holding back on Bitcoin, based on their concerns with the USA being in control of the core development. ^very sad^ Agree. Plus the funny thing is the most talented people often don't work on projects for the money anyway. They do it for the tech challenge to solve a problem and the belief they are helping humanity etc. As quite a selfish person I'm amazed at how much effort people really will put into projects but there it is. I fact people who will only work for money are likely the ones you don't want involved. I bet Satoshi didn't plan on making a ton of money for himself. I'm genuinely suspicious of people on here pushing for regulation and centralised input. You can bet there are a ton of FBI etc staff among users here. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2015, 03:15:13 PM @yayayo Gavin leaving the Bitcoin Foundation is essentially admitting TBF is a mistake. Look who they put in charge! None other than that pedophile Brock Pierce: http://www.coindesk.com/brock-pierce-bitcoin-foundation-board-chairman/ Where is this crowdfunding going towards Bitcoin that you speak of? There's nothing coming in. It takes substantial money and resources to lead and develop a project of this magnitude. Gavin was in the absolute right to leave TBF, and landing/partnering at MIT Media Labs of all places, is an absolute godsend. Thats great Gavin gets paid. Phew. Got to love short term thinking. Look if Bitcoin needed funds for any development it could of been found rather than go to the people that are more than likely gonna get tapped to hack, recreate it or worse. Hooray for shortsighted planning. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. You do realize there are other Bitcoin Core developers working on this project besides Gavin Andresen right? Short term thinking? Where are all these open source developers that are picking up the slack and making better wallets than Bitcoin Core? I see a bunch of SPV wallets, light, and web wallets, but I still haven't seen any that are as robust as the Core wallet: https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet Bitcoin Core is the defacto and official Bitcoin wallet for good reason. It is the first wallet that Gavin and Satoshi transacted with. It is the wallet loaded onto servers and VPS all over the globe to serve as nodes. Reward and fund these people for chrissakes. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: tyz on April 23, 2015, 05:33:00 PM Seems that MIT wants to play a bigger role in cryptocoin research and development. I already welcomed their action to give away free Bitcoins to students in order to address them with the technology. Thumbs up!
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on April 23, 2015, 05:52:10 PM wot is mit Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it is the university where the top tier of students go who are training in technology fields.The Harvard of technology if you will. It's where this clown got his Ph.D. :-\ http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2013/07/alg-ben-bernanke-jpg.jpg Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2015, 05:58:39 PM wot is mit Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it is the university where the top tier of students go who are training in technology fields.The Harvard of technology if you will. It's where this clown got his Ph.D. :-\ http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2013/07/alg-ben-bernanke-jpg.jpg It's where all these technologists went also: http://wiki.mitadmissions.org/Notable_Alumni#Computers Code: Computers Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on April 23, 2015, 06:12:39 PM It's where all these technologists went also: http://wiki.mitadmissions.org/Notable_Alumni#Computers Code: Computers No one "notable" in almost 20 years? Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2015, 06:18:27 PM It's where all these technologists went also: http://wiki.mitadmissions.org/Notable_Alumni#Computers Code: Computers No one "notable" in almost 20 years? LOL what? Not sure what you're getting at. You took one look at this list and that's what you got? Some of the top minds at Google and Yahoo. The inventor of Ethernet. The "Mother of the Internet". And you're asking for someone notable? How the fuck did you become a Hero member here? :P Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Beliathon on April 23, 2015, 06:22:54 PM Not sure how I feel about this, sounds to me like the U.S government is getting far too closely involved with the Bitcoin source code. It's good news, it means they're starting to recognize bitcoin's potential. Moon.Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on April 23, 2015, 06:46:15 PM Are you seriously trying to act like MIT isn't one of the best technology universities in the world? I am sorry can you please name me a better university for technology research? No, it's not the quality of their research or education I'm skeptical of. Just because MIT is a good university with lots of intelligent faculty and students doesn't mean that they have good intentions. Ben Bernanke is a perfect example. A brilliant guy that attended MIT, but evil. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: BitMos on April 23, 2015, 06:47:56 PM no need to read : no fork. judged. forward.
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on April 23, 2015, 06:55:21 PM No one "notable" in almost 20 years? LOL what? Not sure what you're getting at. You took one look at this list and that's what you got? Some of the top minds at Google and Yahoo. The inventor of Ethernet. The "Mother of the Internet". And you're asking for someone notable? How the fuck did you become a Hero member here? :P "Notable" is their term, that's why it's in quotes. I took a look at the list and thought "has it not been updated in 20 years?" I became a hero member the same way all other hero members did, post count and time elapsed. Is MIT your alma mater? Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on April 23, 2015, 07:01:35 PM Are you seriously trying to act like MIT isn't one of the best technology universities in the world? I am sorry can you please name me a better university for technology research? No, it's not the quality of their research or education I'm skeptical of. Just because MIT is a good university with lots of intelligent faculty and students doesn't mean that they have good intentions. Ben Bernanke is a perfect example. A brilliant guy that attended MIT, but evil. I'm hopeful that something good does come from MIT's involvement in Bitcoin, I just don't assume that it's a guarantee. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Lauda on April 23, 2015, 07:03:48 PM I was hoping for a whole lot more decentralization of the core development on a global front, not centralization in a single country. The salaries could have been crowd funded and the development could have been done in a geographical decentralized manner. There are too many countries holding back on Bitcoin, based on their concerns with the USA being in control of the core development. ^very sad^ And what's stopping anyone from outside US from becoming dev and others from crowd-funding their salaries? It's an open source project. This isn't really that different from what was happening. TBF was quite bad and it had to either disband or separate from development (for starters). no need to read : no fork. judged. forward. People on the internet like to stay ignorant, nothing new here. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2015, 07:15:19 PM No one "notable" in almost 20 years? LOL what? Not sure what you're getting at. You took one look at this list and that's what you got? Some of the top minds at Google and Yahoo. The inventor of Ethernet. The "Mother of the Internet". And you're asking for someone notable? How the fuck did you become a Hero member here? :P "Notable" is their term, that's why it's in quotes. I took a look at the list and thought "has it not been updated in 20 years?" I became a hero member the same way all other hero members did, post count and time elapsed. Is MIT your alma mater? No, it is not. However, I do have respect for the sheer amount of impressive alumni that have came from MIT. I mean if your list requirement is within 20 years, not sure what else to tell you. Just an unbelievable list of human intelligence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology_alumni Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on April 23, 2015, 08:00:13 PM No, it is not. However, I do have respect for the sheer amount of impressive alumni that have came from MIT. I mean if your list requirement is within 20 years, not sure what else to tell you. Just an unbelievable list of human intelligence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology_alumni It's not the intelligence of the folks at MIT that I question, but their motive. There's a lot of smart people in the world with bad intentions. (Not to mention those with good intentions that are "paving the road to hell".) Where are these guys that have been graduating from MIT over the last 20 years? Are they working in top secret jobs at the NSA or something? Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: dothebeats on April 23, 2015, 08:49:21 PM From Gavin's Tweet, blog, and Coindesk: https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/590884520318078976 http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-core-developers-join-mit-digital-currency-initiative/?utm_content=buffer00a5a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Sayonara Bitcoin Foundation! The only thing you were good for, Bitcoin Core, is now in the hands of MIT. All in all, great news for Bitcoin overall, as Gavin and company will have state of the art facilities to work from and much needed funding for the Bitcoin project. This also means MIT will be highly networked with universities across the globe, meaning Bitcoin will grow exponentially faster than if they stayed with the Bitcoin Foundation. Kudos Gavin! It's kinda saddening that almost all of the news and people only know the name "Gavin Andresen" when they're talking about Bitcoin Core developers. I mean, how about the other devs? They also need the proper mentions of their work. I'm nothing against Gavin but I think that it's too centered on Gavin when we're talking about devs. :( However, going back to the news, it seems that choosing MIT Media Labs and the initiative is a pretty good move for bitcoin and the developments for it as well. The support that they will receive with the help of MIT Media Labs will greatly aid them in developing Bitcoin Core. This is a good news for the whole of bitcoin indeed. :) Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: PolarPoint on April 23, 2015, 08:54:34 PM MIT may not be the best institution for devs of Bitcoin core. It is much better than the bitcoin foundation. This exciting news! The future of the foundation is doomed. :D
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: pawel7777 on April 23, 2015, 08:58:46 PM The core devs should be paid if they're doing it full-time and not volunteering. In the beginning, it was not paid. It was just to see if the whole thing would work. Once you start getting paid, then the person paying you can drive the narrative. Which is what we see now. Doesn't matter if the core devs "moved" from The Bitcoin Foundation, now the MIT Lab will have their own agenda. And the beat goes on... And what's the alternative? If the devs don't get any salary from anyone would that make them independent, or more vulnerable (to bribery etc)? And please answer me this, it's a genuine question, at what point did you figure you're in the right position to tell devs (or anyone) whether they should/shouldn't work for free? It amazes me how many members of this forum act like the devs owe them something. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2015, 09:03:04 PM The core devs should be paid if they're doing it full-time and not volunteering. In the beginning, it was not paid. It was just to see if the whole thing would work. Once you start getting paid, then the person paying you can drive the narrative. Which is what we see now. Doesn't matter if the core devs "moved" from The Bitcoin Foundation, now the MIT Lab will have their own agenda. And the beat goes on... And what's the alternative? If the devs don't get any salary from anyone would that make them independent, or more vulnerable (to bribery etc)? And please answer me this, it's a genuine question, at what point did you figure you're in the right position to tell devs (or anyone) whether they should/shouldn't work for free? It amazes me how many members of this forum act like the devs owe them something. It's like telling the local mechanic at the shop to fix your alternator for free or the local baker to make you a 3 tier wedding cake just because they can. Nevermind the man hours involved, the tools, expenses, and resources to make said development happen. Shit costs money... Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: ensurance982 on April 23, 2015, 09:28:34 PM I never personally liked Gavin. He's loving being the prom queen too much. And I think he's being way overpaid. I think he'll stretch out development as long as possible to maximize stuffing his own pockets. If I had to analyze Gavin's true motives, he only cares about the attention and the money. He doesn't care if he was working on Bitcoin or some massive secret government project, as long as they pay him and put a camera in his face, he'll be flaunting that tiara hard. Gripes about Gavin aside, what about the other Bitcoin core devs? You don't think they deserve to be paid either? What about Wladimir van der Laan and Cory Fields? Do they continue writing code pro bono? Some posters have to read the articles and the whole story before posting.... The core devs should be paid if they're doing it full-time and not volunteering. In the beginning, it was not paid. It was just to see if the whole thing would work. Once you start getting paid, then the person paying you can drive the narrative. Which is what we see now. Doesn't matter if the core devs "moved" from The Bitcoin Foundation, now the MIT Lab will have their own agenda. And the beat goes on... That should be paid big time. The only problem with that is that whoever controls the flow of money basically controls what they are suggesting to become part of the BTC protocol. This is a very dangerous thing, and I believe that the money should come from as many different sources as possible. Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: minerpumpkin on April 23, 2015, 10:02:04 PM This really makes it obvious that we need a sound funding plan for the core developers. If someone wanted to have some feature, only he or she would benefit from, in the code they could just try and bribe the core developers. Their income has to be independent of companies and so forth.
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: tescomatty on April 24, 2015, 01:44:40 AM This is good to see. I know MIT gave their undergraduates each 100$ in bitcoin, so its good to see that trend continuing! MIT is at the forefront on many things, intermingling with top Bitcoin devs is just what we need.
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: BTC_Superman on May 14, 2015, 01:44:09 PM Great news for Bitcoin. :)
Title: Re: Breaking News! Gavin and Bitcoin Core devs join MIT Media Labs Post by: Kyraishi on May 14, 2015, 01:56:19 PM Good news!
I have one question though: Quote I'd like to thank everybody who reached out to me over the last couple of months as it became obvious that the Foundation wouldn't be able to raise the funds necessary to continue supporting Wladimir, Cory, and me. What is their salary? :o I mean doesn't the Bitcoin Foundation want $100K to accept you as a member? What happened to all that money? |
