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Hi Everyone!
I heave great pre-owned in a very good condition Rolex for sale. http://www.grayandsons.com/product/24509/78
We also have lots of other Rolexes for sale. If you are interested please e-mail: info@grayandsons.com or call: Toll Free: (800) 918-2608

I assume you don't mind if someone picks up the watch in person at your store in Bal Harbour.

Also doesn't your email end with sons with an s? 

Sure you can visit our store anytime and get this watch in person.  You are right I forgot about "s":). Now it is correct. Thank You.

So its

9595 Harding Ave. Surfside (Miami Beach) FL, 33154 (across the street from prestigious Bal Harbour)

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Backlink spam or possible scam.

first of all the toll free number given here is wrong.
second would you like to use escrow for this.
third if you really owns the Rolex set the time 04:54 in it and upload a image of it.
fourth site don"t have any SSL certificate which makes sites worth/trust 0.
So, it is Possible SCAM according to my opinion also.

Yeah, remembering the Bitcoin Documentary, I'd take care in buying such expensive goods with Bitcoin..
No way of authenticating. Use escrow

I can't vouch for the OP, as I have no way to know they are from the company.

I can say the phone number is on the website, the company is legit, and is one of the most respected watch stores, and the site redirects to SSL on checkout.  I get their monthly catalog and have been in their store in South Florida.

I do recommend escrow if purchasing online and having the OP show pics of the watch with their username.

Any brand new account, selling used Rolexes, with no proof of the item screams buyer beware.

I personally think that you done just fucked up m8 ::)

Now, you believe?
http://i60.tinypic.com/2ivb4eu.jpg

How about adding the watch with piece of paper that write your Bitcointalk's username ?
How much do you sell ? My budget kindda low  :-[

Color me impressed :D

NO.

@OP- If you are legit, which I'm not really doubting you (but go ahead and take another picture with date & username), then look up user "Bobsurplus" on here. He is always looking to buy Rolexes & such and has a luxury watch collection. He would probably be interested.

Don't take users' skepticism and doubt personally- you must understand that Bitcoin is an irreversible payment method, and there have been dozens and dozens of people pop up on here claiming to have high-value items for sale trying to run off with a quick buck or thousand. It would be highly recommended for you to use a trusted escrow (such as user "OgNasty") for your first few sales. Good Luck with business and welcome to the forum!

To the OP...another thing you could consider is to give us your name, and if anyone here that is looking for the watch cares to follow up, they can call the phone number off the main website for grayandsons.com and confirm if you work there and if you put the watch up for sale on their behalf.

Please understand that scams are rampant on this board, especially from new users, and those selling what they claim are used rolexes.  

But at minimum, people will need to see a handwritten note with your username next to the picture, and/or the rolex certification card/boxes to show some proof its not a fake.  It helps to show you didn't get the picture off someone else's site.   And again, escrow will be needed if selling online.  It may be more hoops for you to jump through, but understand where the community is coming from.

Hi, I have just did the photo. Just like you wanted. You can e-mail us: info@grayandsons.com or call. We have any others brands like Omega or Patek Philipe.
If you are interested I can send you photos (more professional ).
http://i61.tinypic.com/2qmj8nt.jpg

It doesn't say anything on the watch listing or website about accepting bitcoin unless I've missed it?

EDIT: Do you work for grayandsons or is it your watch?

P.S. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but as already mentioned by others there are so many scammers on here with new accounts its unbelievable.

The more information you can give to verify what you're trying to sell the better and the more likely you are to find a buyer.

Its a very, very nice watch or should I say 'time piece' :).

I don't know why but seems like photoshop to me
*don't take it personal*

Was thinking that myself, hence the questions. However in the second picture it does show a different time.

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There have been some clever photoshop scam attempts on here recently I'd put nothing past someone trying to sell a $24,000 watch.

The handwriting is partially out of focus, which I would expect for a macro photo.

The day and date are the same.  Its quite likely that handling the watch gave it energy to advance for another hour when the picture was taken.  I'm assuming this is an automatic.

Again, all it takes is for someone to call the retail store, using any number off the website, to verify.  Just call and ask if they accept bitcoin for any piece they offer.   Just deal with them directly.

I agree, I don't think anyone would buy without contacting the store first.

I know this is from an angle and all.. But on an authentic Rolex, the date is exactly in the center of the magnified area.

That's just how it looks from an angle - I just compared it to my watch.

By the way: Overstock doesn't have the exact same model, but I found a very similar model at a significantly lower price (http://www.overstock.com/Jewelry-Watches/Pre-owned-Rolex-18k-Gold-President-Mens-Black-Dial-Watch/5048110/product.html).

On quick observation, I'd think the price difference is due to the ring of diamonds.  Depends on how much bling you're looking for!   ;D

Ah yep, that could be the reason. I just compared the model number (18238 vs. 18038)

It looks like the inner ring has diamonds as well, I wonder how many carats total?

The date on a Rolex is centred. This date looks like its slightly off.

This is a quote from : http://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-blog/rolex-info/the-top-ten-ways-to-spot-a-fake-rolex.html

3. The Magnification

Once you have the Rolex in front of you where you can can view it with your own eyes there a lot more ways to tell if it’s real or fake. On Rolex watches with a date (DateJust, Submariner, etc…) the date has to be very small to work properly and so Rolex adds a magnification glass, or Cyclops window,  to allow the wearer to see it more easily. On all Rolex models the magnification is 2.5X so

the date really jumps out at you. On fake Rolex watches the magnification is often much lower at 1.5X so the date looks small and more difficult to see. This is a huge tell tale sign of a fake Rolex.

- See more at: http://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-blog/rolex-info/the-top-ten-ways-to-spot-a-fake-rolex.html#sthash.FVXfMsu8.dpuf

fuck that, get a gold apple watch

He did post a picture with his name on a page so I guess it proves that he owns it.


For $17,000 ? No thanks ;) I'll stick with my Moto 360.

OP is not answering some very basic questions which is not a good sign.

If they accept BTC in store, I would rather send someone over to buy it for me than buy it online, even if it's protected by escrow.

Not saying this is not a legitimate offer, but it's way too difficult to separate truth from fake on these kind of deals, so it's not worth the risk in my opinion.

Is this where you purchased your Rolex?

Always be careful where buying a preowned Rolex.   I would trust grayandsons in store, or any factory authorized dealer.  Cost is irrelevant if you end up with a counterfeit.   

Gray & Sons Jewelers in Miami Beach Florida has been in business for over 35 years specializing in Preowned watches like Rolex, Patek Philippe, Cartier etc. We just recently started accepting Bitcoin payments through Coinbase. We have references all around the world. See our complete selection online at www.grayandsons.com. If you are interested please contact Rich Finlinson: rich@grayandsons.com

I've already purchased a Rolex from Gray & Sons, although it was through BitPremier. Shipping was fast and the watch was exactly as described.
Now that I know I can purchase from them directly using coinbase I think It time to do some shopping.

OP, are you Rich, and what's your best price on http://www.grayandsons.com/product/26220/Montblanc (MontBlanc Meisterstuck PL11220)

Hi chmod755,
What kind of proof you need?
The Gray & Sons is considered to be the most famous fine Swiss watch specialist company in the World- specialized in pre-owned authentic watches and estate jewelry and diamonds - with 6 in house watchmakers and jewelers and 35 years in this business.We are located in Miami Beach, we have reference from all over the world from satisfied customers.
You can order our monthly 68 catalog, full color catalog, or you can see it on our website http://digitaleditions.sheridan.com/publication/?m=20900&l=1 (http://digitaleditions.sheridan.com/publication/?m=20900&l=1)

Yes - this is Rich and my associate Margaret is working with me to answer the posts. Price I can do on the MontBlanc is $2750. Email me: rich@grayandsons.com if you are interested and I will send you payment link through coinbase.

We are selling reconditioned used Rolex Watches with a 2 year warranty and a 10 day return privilege. And yes you can buy them with Bitcoin using Coinbase.

Can you provide more then 3 pictures with a imgur link. I saw one picture w. the ID but people pointed something about being possible photoshop.

I got a buddy who buys and sells rolexs so this can maybe work out, if he likes it or not. I`d have to confirm back on here though.

Is this a custom model submariner or which one.

Picture shown is a Solid Gold 18K Day-Date aka Presidential.  Factory diamond bezel and dial.  The OP's link gives more detail.

Hi techgeek,
Click on the link and you can get more photos: http://www.grayandsons.com/product/24509/78 (http://www.grayandsons.com/product/24509/78)
You can contact with us directly. Tel: +1(305) 865-0999
Ask for Rich. rich@grayandsons.com

only a bozo would wear a watch like that

This is amazing!

I've been waiting to find a reputable watch dealer so I could use my Bitcoin!

I will be in contact, for sure.

http://www.grayandsons.com/product/27922/pens

*drools*

Certainly. It may be a couple weeks, but I will be the guinea pig.

We are really happy to hear that Eisenhower34. Give us a call +1 305 865 0999 (Ask for Rich) or e-mail: rich@grayandsons.com
You can also visit our showroom in Miami. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gray+and+Sons+Jewelry+Buyers/@25.886932,-80.123513,18z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x88d9b2992b408533:0x8d702d6011cda310 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gray+and+Sons+Jewelry+Buyers/@25.886932,-80.123513,18z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x88d9b2992b408533:0x8d702d6011cda310)

Are you interested in buying? You can ask for more information, just call +1 305 865 0999 (Ask for Rich) or e-mail: rich@grayandsons.com
We will be happy to answer for all your questions.

This is amazing.

Would you ship to the UK?

would you be willing to ship first to me? I'm interested in some other watches, not the Rolex, TAG mainly...

Edit: Only pre-owned? :(

Thanks Rich.

Will reach out to you on the next decent BTC run up if I'm in it to win it on leverage.

Yes we can ship to the UK. We have some new Omega watches but most everything else we have is preowned (in excellent condition with our warranty).
We would need to receive payment before shipping but we do give you a 10 day return privilege so if you are not happy in any way with the watch you can send it back for a full refund.
Now we have four TAG watches available http://www.grayandsons.com/category/35 (http://www.grayandsons.com/category/35)
Just in: http://images.grayandsons.com/productimages/w517893z.jpg http://images.grayandsons.com/productimages/w517893_ez.jpg
and
http://images.grayandsons.com/productimages/w517804z.jpg http://images.grayandsons.com/productimages/w517804_cz.jpg

Here are UNUSED OMEGAs:http://www.grayandsons.com/category/s?keyword=unused+omega (http://www.grayandsons.com/category/s?keyword=unused+omega)
If you are interested in, please give me a call. Rich +1(305) 865-0999 or e-mail: rich@grayandsons.com

Maybe we are new in Bitcoin community but we have already sold some items using Coinbase. We love the way that we can sell items worldwide.

I want!!!
This is like a dream come true!!! ;D

i hope that website you are planning to use is trustworthy.

i tend to choose what to buy with bitcoins. more or less stuffs under 10$ or at maximum of 20$. we never know. and in THIS forum? even worse.

So, You can come to our store:) in Miami, e-mail: rich@grayandsons.com or call: +1 (305) 865-0999 ask Rich
In private message I will send you secret code, after that you can get a good price:)

We are using Coinbase. We did several transactions with them and everything was ok.

Very very nice watch.
How much the prize ? ( hope I have enough  :-[  )
Global shipping ? Indonesia my location

Hi we are changing our website so I think in July we will have that option.

Hi,
Are you interested in that TAG Heuer http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28401/35 (http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28401/35)
or http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28203/35 (http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28203/35)? We ship to many places in the World but unfortunately we can not ship to Indonesia because we can't insure the charge and you will have to bear all the risks of charge :( but maybe you are planing to go on vacation, or have relatives that can get that watch from our store in Miami.

Just bought two beautiful luxury timepieces from Gray&sons neither was a Rolex but we're working on making something happen when the right stock comes in.
I'll update here once they arrive with a full review on the service and some pictures.

Thanks Rich, was a pleasure.

P.s. You may want to change the title of this thread to something like:

Fine Luxury Watches (or timepieces ) for sale for Bitcoin (Rolex, Breitling, Omega, ect)  Or something similar.

That's weird, you said that you can't send the watch but I got PM

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=517445

Tagged the fake as a scammer.

Indonesia is a very risky country to send mail - regardless of payment method.

I would rather rely on the feedback to be provided by Bobsurplus before making an assessment.

Yes that is weird. I didn't send this message! . Please don't do any payments!! That is a  scam.  Look at the nickname:  the first letter is "Q" be careful!   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=517445

how much?

And do you do escrow?

We did special discount for bitcointalk forum. Now you can get this watch for 100BTC!!! (1 June 2015). We use coinbase for transaction. If you are interested please give us a call (800) 918-2608 ,  +1(305) 865-0999 or e-mail: rich@grayandsons.com, margaret@grayandsons.com

Hi Bobsurplus,
Your watches are ready to ship:) These are the photos.
http://grayandsons.commercev3.com/images/bitcoin/02.jpg
http://grayandsons.commercev3.com/images/bitcoin/03.jpg
Thank you Bobsurplus for bitcoin transaction:)
Rich and Margaret
Grayandsons.com

Super sexy!! Cant wait to get them. Please e-mail me the tracking number once it's available.

Hi Bobsurplus,
We e-mail to you the tracking code.
Margaret - grayandsons.com

Watches came in today. Not to shabby if you ask me. I ordered and paid for them on Friday afternoon at around 3pm EST, the watches went out yesterday (Monday) and arrived this morning (Tuesday) for a total of 3 working days from ordering to arriving for an international order. A+++

I bought 2 watches, both second hand. The first one is a Corum Bubble XL with the 2+ carat two row diamond bezel. Watch appears to have been polished and cleaned prior to shipping and came in outstanding condition. The Corum came with its original box and papers and tbh you cant even tell the watch is slightly used.

For the Corum I give it a 9.5 on 10.  (10 being reserved for brand new watches)

The second watch I ordered is a Montblanc Star Chronograph. This one is also outstanding. The condition overall I would rate a 8.5 on 10. The band shows some wear which I was fully aware of prior to ordering. Also seems to have been cleaned and polished prior to shipping, no scratches visible and once again, some wear in the band.

Rich also threw in a brand new high quality leather band for free and as a surprise to me. (Thanks Rich) I think I'll be changing out the band it came with and replacing it with the new one.  

The Montblanc did not have the original box and papers which I was fully aware of when ordering but came in a nice high grade wooden Gray & Sons watch box.

Also included in my order was the latest issue of the Gray & Sons monthly catalog as well as 2 very nice watch cleaning cloths which ALWAYS come in handy when you wanna  shine up any nice watch.

All in all. Placing this order, paying in Bitcoins, quick shipping and awesome service is what I got dealing with Rich.

Anyone here looking for a luxury watch and wanting to pay in btc, there really is only one option and that's Gray & Sons!

Rich, thanks for the opportunity, great deal and awesome watches. I'll be back for sure and already have someone checking out your stock looking for a Milgaus.
We'll be talking soon.

Bob


P.s. If you guys want me to post pics I will but seeing as though Rich already did I see no reason to.

Great writeup Bobsurplus.   Good to see that the OP came through and appear to be legit.

I've been in their store once and regularly receive their monthly paper catalog.  I haven't purchased a watch in years, but would certainly buy from them if I was back in the market to get something.   

Thanks man. Glad to see you appreciate it. If you ever get back into the watch game I highly recommend buying them with BTC from G&S.

Hi,
We are really happy  with this transaction. Finally we might have some trust points:) Margaret will post some new photos with Milgaus. If you need any extra photos of particular watch just tell us and Margaret will do it. She can speak Polish, English. I speak Spanish too.

It is nice to here bithalo. What brand do you like, what is your range of price? Maybe we could help you and send some photos of watches that you are interested in?

I haven't purchased a watch in roughly 5 years.  I've tried kicking the habit, as it can get quite expensive.   I can't afford anything else these days sadly.   

Some examples of watches I love (but not looking to buy now) would be:

Bovet Jumping Hours Amadeo RG
Bovet Recital 12 RG
Breguet 3450 Tourbillon WG / Plat.
Other Breguet Tourbillons
JLC 16124 RG Perpetual Calendar Skeleton
AP Millenary RG 4101
Daniel Roth Tourbillon Calendar Skeleton
Other similar Open face / skeleton pieces.

Yes Bithalo, it can get very very expensive. Have you ever thought of trading in one of your watches for a different one? Its just like trading in your old car: ) Anyways, you should come visit us regardless. Whatever you bought here, we'd love to polish and detail for you!

Right now, the only watch I would be up for trading in is my pre-owned Milus Herios Tri-Retrograde Rose Gold.  We can discuss further by PM.  It has the boxes and papers I believe.  A generic picture is below...

http://www.chrono24.com/en/milus/herios-18k-rose-gold-tri-retrograde-seconds--id2948814.htm

sry for my question
but are there any legit watches traders who do not offer counterfeits?

Thats a good question EvenMatt! Our company, Gray and Sons, has been in business for 35 years. We have 6 swiss trained watch makers and jewelers in house to certify all of our merchandise to be authentic. Everything we buy and sell, whether it be online, in our store, or through bitcoin, has our guarantee of authenticity. We also offer a 10 day no questions asked return policy where if you aren't satisfied with the product, you can return it to us within 10 days and you will be refunded 100%. Check out our website grayandsons.com (http://grayandsons.com) , email us brian@grayandsons.com, or call  +1(305) 865-0999. -Brian

You have great watches, I may be interested in buying one.

Why dont you start your own thread and not hijack this one.