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Economy => Currency exchange => Topic started by: BurntSnow on August 27, 2012, 02:05:35 PM



Title: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: BurntSnow on August 27, 2012, 02:05:35 PM
Cash, Visa giftcard, if you're interested send me a PM and we can discuss it. Need to sell ASAP, at Mtgox rate. 10 BTC exactly.


Title: Re: Selling 13.5 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: BurntSnow on August 28, 2012, 01:39:21 AM
"Please".


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: db007 on August 29, 2012, 09:16:43 AM
I m looking for bitcoins. maybe we can arrange something

Thanks


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: xodustrance on August 29, 2012, 01:00:49 PM
Ill buy with amazon gift card, need the coins by tonight -


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: TangibleCryptography on August 29, 2012, 02:36:27 PM
Watch out for scammers. 

If you don't get any good offers we are always buying bitcoins; 8 payout options.

https://fastcash4bitcoins.com


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: xodustrance on August 29, 2012, 03:16:31 PM
Watch out for scammers. 

If you don't get any good offers we are always buying bitcoins; 8 payout options.

https://fastcash4bitcoins.com

Not a scammer - have a trade under my belt with IveBeenBit - Ill send the gift card first if he is trusted around here.


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: TangibleCryptography on August 29, 2012, 03:18:31 PM
I never said you were a scammer, interesting that you thought it was directed at you.

Still sending card first doesn't mean a whole lot.  
Not when it can be charged back up to 180 days later.


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: xodustrance on August 29, 2012, 05:36:22 PM
I never said you were a scammer, interesting that you thought it was direct at you.

Still sending card first doesn't mean a whole lot.  
Not when it can be charged back up to 180 days later.

I understand you have an agenda here, but I would really like to see proof of your claims that amazon gift cards can be charged back to the user once claimed -

Any credible source would be fine, it just has to meet the criteria that someone accepted the amazon gift card, then got stuck holding the bill once spent.

If you have any credibility and don't go around making statements you cant back up, this should be easy for you to provide.



Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: TangibleCryptography on August 29, 2012, 06:21:01 PM
It is called a credit card.
Quote
"Hi my card was stolen. Looks like the thief bought a bunch of [amazon gift cards], [steam games], [newegg giftcards], [etc] with it.  I would like to file a chargeback".
Anything bought with a credit card can be charged back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chargeback

Since you doubt our credability maybe you trust the admin:
Money sent through PayPal and any other money transfer service that accepts credit cards can be easily reversed by the sender, even after several weeks. Therefore, you should only accept PayPal in trades with people you trust very highly.

This is why newbies are not likely to sell their PayPal USD for bitcoins successfully.

Some other services that are not totally safe:
- Most gift cards.
- Moneypak
- AlertPay
- Paysafecards
- Dwolla
- Western Union (they reportedly will sue the recipient to recover money in some cases)
 


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: xodustrance on August 29, 2012, 08:08:02 PM
It is called a credit card.
Quote
"Hi my card was stolen. Looks like the thief bought a bunch of [amazon gift cards], [steam games], [newegg giftcards], [etc] with it.  I would like to file a chargeback".
Anything bought with a credit card can be charged back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chargeback

Since you doubt our credability maybe you trust the admin:
Money sent through PayPal and any other money transfer service that accepts credit cards can be easily reversed by the sender, even after several weeks. Therefore, you should only accept PayPal in trades with people you trust very highly.

This is why newbies are not likely to sell their PayPal USD for bitcoins successfully.

Some other services that are not totally safe:
- Most gift cards.
- Moneypak
- AlertPay
- Paysafecards
- Dwolla
- Western Union (they reportedly will sue the recipient to recover money in some cases)
 

Ok, then you are admitting you have no proof that an Amazon gift card has ever been reversed and the Amazon gift card holder has ever been left holding the bag. Its possible for you to move through walls according to quantum mechanics, but it doesn't mean it will ever happen in your life time. I'm reasonable, Ill accept a couple non-credible sources that none of which even mention Amazon Gift Cards, that in an odd, parallel universe a reversal could happen, despite the billions sold through Amazon Gift Cards without any issue.

The only real issue I can see is using paypal, I know how easily it can be charged back even months after the exchange. Funny you mention how unsafe (albeit without a shred of proof) Amazon gift cards are when you use the most notorious of them all Paypal, to make deposits into your customer's accounts. Amazon is not going to come back and say - "Hey you, that 100$ gift card came back as a charge back, therefore we are demanding payment of 100$". Has never happened, doubt it ever will. Amazon would not inject that kind of uncertainty into their GC's. They make too much money with them.

But anyhow, I just bought 20 from BCB anyways. No reason to derail this thread any longer as I dont need anymore this week.


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: laststop on August 29, 2012, 08:24:08 PM
feel bad for burntsnow, his thread got crapped on


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: TangibleCryptography on August 29, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
xodustrance - Welcome to ignore.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85032.msg941311#msg941311

and

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_200138510_tcsfp?nodeId=3122091

Quote
Fraud.
Amazon.com will have the right to close customer accounts and bill alternative forms of payment if a fraudulently obtained Gift Card is redeemed and/or used to make purchases on amazon.com or any of its affiliated websites set forth above.


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: BurntSnow on August 30, 2012, 01:36:14 AM
feel bad for burntsnow, his thread got crapped on
No big deal. Now I know to avoid xodustrance. Going to use https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/


Title: Re: Selling 10 Bitcoins for USD
Post by: TangibleCryptography on August 30, 2012, 03:27:39 AM
feel bad for burntsnow, his thread got crapped on
No big deal. Now I know to avoid xodustrance. Going to use https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/

Once you place an order drop me a PM with the order number and I will boost the payout 2% as compensation for the semi-derail and forum war.  :)

Thank you for considering us.