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Title: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 28, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
Who's with me going through airport TSA and refusing body scanning and patdown?

Find the cheapest plane flight, get at least 20 of us doing this in a row.


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: TECSHARE on August 28, 2012, 09:49:35 PM
I just stopped flying. If the industry subsidizes the rise of The Fourth Reich, I will not be subsidizing them. Additionally, unlike most of Americans I have enough self respect to not let my genitals be groped by neo-fascists, but that's just me. Also by the way, it is illegal in most places to get into a security checkpoint line and refuse both patdown and scan. Surprise! Its not optional any more.


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 28, 2012, 10:03:34 PM
I just stopped flying. If the industry subsidizes the rise of The Fourth Reich, I will not be subsidizing them. Additionally, unlike most of Americans i have enough self respect to not let my genitals be groped by neo-fascists, but that's just me. Also by the way, it is illegal in most places to get into a security checkpoint line and refuse both putdown and scan. Surprise! Its not optional any more.

I only flew once to see a chick

well 20 people arrested for not complying with their genitals grabbed or scanned, should make news stories, at least MANY MANY alternative news sites

make history


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: Herodes on August 28, 2012, 11:11:16 PM
Who's with me going through airport TSA and refusing body scanning and patdown?

Find the cheapest plane flight, get at least 20 of us doing this in a row.

Should fill an entire plane with this. Would be great. I don't live in the US though, but what will the consequences be ? Would you get a criminal record and thus having problem flying in the future, or having trouble travelling abroad, perhaps even having troubles getting certain jobs ?

What if 500 people all showed up at an air-port, then at a given signal, all of them dropped a black bag, and left the air-port ? Would chaos ensue ?

So to orchestrate everythingh properly, we have 150 ppl getting arrested for rejecting a body scanner + pat down, and 500 ppl leaving their bags at the airport, all at once.


THOSE WHO GIVE UP THEIR LIBERTY FOR SECURITY, DESERVES NEITHER!


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 29, 2012, 12:19:09 AM
Who's with me going through airport TSA and refusing body scanning and patdown?

Find the cheapest plane flight, get at least 20 of us doing this in a row.

Should fill an entire plane with this. Would be great. I don't live in the US though, but what will the consequences be ? Would you get a criminal record and thus having problem flying in the future, or having trouble travelling abroad, perhaps even having troubles getting certain jobs ?

What if 500 people all showed up at an air-port, then at a given signal, all of them dropped a black bag, and left the air-port ? Would chaos ensue ?

So to orchestrate everythingh properly, we have 150 ppl getting arrested for rejecting a body scanner + pat down, and 500 ppl leaving their bags at the airport, all at once.


THOSE WHO GIVE UP THEIR LIBERTY FOR SECURITY, DESERVES NEITHER!

well thats way more suspicious and less peaceful non-violent compliance

you can't know all 500 people, imagine if one really did put something bad in the bag, we'd all be blamed and maimed on the news

still interesting idea. maybe 50 people. put an empty black backpack or duffel bag, or better: fill it with roses or something, something pleasant

have security freak the fuck out. get on the news, show how they waste time and resources for being scared cat fucktards


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: myrkul on August 29, 2012, 12:28:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MapSlGNOXWw


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 29, 2012, 12:49:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MapSlGNOXWw

wow, I think I met Derrick


Who of us will go naked?

me with minimum 25 companions

more of kelly in underwear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6rH6Mri0to


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: Coinabul on August 29, 2012, 01:00:21 AM
I just refuse the body scanners and whisper sweet nothings in the ear of whichever gentleman is tasked to tug on my genitals.

"...be gentle. ;)"


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 29, 2012, 01:07:30 AM
I just refuse the body scanners and whisper sweet nothings in the ear of whichever gentleman is tasked to tug on my genitals.

"...be gentle. ;)"

make sure to leave a tip after too


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: naypalm on August 29, 2012, 01:58:08 AM
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1391/2feff36370d2bf752bf5430.png


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: m0w3r on August 29, 2012, 11:36:20 PM
_Twisted _Sexual _Assault:  TSA parody song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_j6Z2gPX_U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_j6Z2gPX_U)


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: Snapman on August 29, 2012, 11:40:26 PM
Watch out what you say, if you still plan on flying. Piss any of those TSA pussies too much and you'll find yourself on the no fly list, were i can welcome you aboard :D


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 30, 2012, 12:44:17 AM
_Twisted _Sexual _Assault:  TSA parody song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_j6Z2gPX_U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_j6Z2gPX_U)

thanks. a wonder i hadn't seen that yet :)

can't find my favorites right now or I'd post

_Twisted _Sexual _Assault:  TSA parody song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_j6Z2gPX_U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_j6Z2gPX_U)

it's a wonder I'm not on their list and I'm not joking.


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: Herodes on August 30, 2012, 08:32:39 AM
Watch out what you say, if you still plan on flying. Piss any of those TSA pussies too much and you'll find yourself on the no fly list, were i can welcome you aboard :D


What happened to you ? Yes, I got your point, as much as we hate the security theater, standing up against that system may eventually hurt outselves to the point where the personal cost is too high.


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: myrkul on August 30, 2012, 08:37:33 AM
Be sure to bring along one of these (http://securityedition.com/cards/), and wear a pair of these (http://securityedition.com/fourth-amendment-socks/)...

The cards, especially, make a great statement. That they'll probably be too dense to get. :-\


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 30, 2012, 09:03:17 AM
Idiocy is the problem, failure to follow the Constitution


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 30, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
At what point will it be easier to just strap a bomb on and blow up all the people standing in line ? Why get on the plane and do it ?


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: miln40 on August 30, 2012, 02:00:06 PM
http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20100111-24493.html


This is what you guys should do :) Proud member of the German PP, btw.


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 30, 2012, 07:40:05 PM
At what point will it be easier to just strap a bomb on and blow up all the people standing in line ? Why get on the plane and do it ?

The point of your rhetorical question is answered by remembering it is security theater. People who believe it makes us safer are real idiots.

What does it prevent? planes flown into high profile target buildings? how often does that happen...3x every 50 years?


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: ChrisKoss on August 31, 2012, 12:31:07 AM
Every time I fly, I loudly discuss with anyone I am traveling with why I (and they should) refuse the backscatter scanner.  I try to speak so others in the line can hear me.  When I get to the front, I ask to opt out, regardless of whether I'm randomly selected. Here's some points I try to hit:

- It exposes you to small doses of harmful cancer-causing radiation.  While the radiation is very small, I read one study that said that the net effect of all of this radiation over such a large population will cause more deaths than have ever been caused by the kinds of things they are trying to prevent (9/11, shoebomber, etc).

- The backscatter machines don't work well and there are videos online telling people how to smuggle metal objects through them undetected. These machines might make us LESS safe, because people who go in the machines sometimes don't have to go through a metal detector: these machines could be letting guns onto planes.

- The machines are supposed to automatically cover genitals.  However, 100+ nude images from these machines have been leaked online, illegally and without any discipline for those responsible (AFAIK).

- Michael Chertoff, the Secretary of Homeland Security at the time backscatter machines were installed, has profited from installing these machines.  His consulting company received payment from Rapiscan, the company which makes these machines.  It is arguable that the reason they are in airports because the Secretary of the DHS took a bribe.
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Rapiscan, the maker of the X-ray backscatter machine, reportedly paid $1 million to the Chertoff Group, run by former Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Michael Chertoff, while Chertoff appeared in the media touting the value of the machines. Each machine costs the taxpayer about $150,000, but that is only the purchase; installation, then staffing, costs much more.
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2012/3/29/forget_fear_of_flying_fear_airport_screening

More info:
http://epic.org/privacy/airtravel/backscatter/

Please, don't harass the worker bees who are actually patting you down.  Instead, tell them the truth in a calm manner and never use words like "bomb", "gun", "9/11" or "terrorist" in explaining your position.  Tell them to make sure they tell their doctor that they work near these machines so they can get cancer screenings more frequently. Tell them that the machines are only in use because of their corrupt former boss.  

I've never had a TSA employee get angry with me.  Usually they are just apathetic and worn down, "Yep, that sounds about right" or (about their cancer risk) "Don't even tell me that, I don't want to hear that". I feel like being empathetic actually has a chance to change their opinion, but being combative will probably just get yourself into trouble without doing any good.


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: 420 on August 31, 2012, 01:06:18 AM
Thanks Chriss


Title: Re: TSA PROTEST?
Post by: myrkul on August 31, 2012, 01:10:17 AM
Thanks Chriss

+1, especially the being nice to the worker bees. Give what you get, if they're not assholes, don't be an asshole first.

Maybe you'll even open some eyes.