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Economy => Securities => Topic started by: Transisto on August 29, 2012, 02:29:38 AM



Title: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: Transisto on August 29, 2012, 02:29:38 AM
All it take is an ASK for 1 share at 99999999BTC to completely destroy the dept chart usefulness.

Given the chart has ~800 pixels, by striping from the chart orders with prices 500% or 1/5 away from last trade, a worst case scenario would still allow 382 pixel of "useful" data (1/2 , 200%).

Overall your charts would be much more useful and entertaining if scale was customizable.

Also, I just began using GLBSE and the site has been unusually slow. (~4-8sec to load pages)


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: dree12 on August 29, 2012, 02:34:12 AM
All it take is an ASK for 1 share at 99999999BTC to completely destroy the dept chart usefulness.

Given the chart has ~800 pixels, by striping from the chart orders with prices 500% or 1/5 away from last trade, a worst case scenario would still allow 382 pixel of "useful" data (1/2 , 200%).

Overall your charts would be much more useful and entertaining if scale was customizable.

Also, I just began using GLBSE and the site has been unusually slow.
The chart is useless already because it displays depth at that price level, not total depth (not "stacked"). I can bid 0.05 BTC total for 0.5000001, 0.5000002, 0.5000003, etc. and not make a dent on the Market Depth chart if I want to manipulate the market. Or, I can overlap my bid with others to make a spike on Market Depth and incite panic.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: speeder on August 29, 2012, 02:36:42 AM
I was going to open a thread about this today...

One thing I am trading I am getting utterly annoyed with a bid for 100000 shares at 0.0000001 btc or something like that.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: Transisto on August 29, 2012, 02:38:50 AM
All it take is an ASK for 1 share at 99999999BTC to completely destroy the dept chart usefulness.

Given the chart has ~800 pixels, by striping from the chart orders with prices 500% or 1/5 away from last trade, a worst case scenario would still allow 382 pixel of "useful" data (1/2 , 200%).

Overall your charts would be much more useful and entertaining if scale was customizable.

Also, I just began using GLBSE and the site has been unusually slow.
The chart is useless already because it displays depth at that price level, not total depth (not "stacked"). I can bid 0.05 BTC total for 0.5000001, 0.5000002, 0.5000003, etc. and not make a dent on the Market Depth chart if I want to manipulate the market. Or, I can overlap my bid with others to make a spike on Market Depth and incite panic.
It should at least be a bar chart then, not a line.  So much fail it make me doubt their security.

The price chart show a little blob when you hover onto a trade....  Cute.  :-\


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: OgNasty on August 29, 2012, 03:46:20 AM
This annoys me as well.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: HorseRider on August 29, 2012, 05:15:01 AM
it is interesting anyway. It forces everyone focus on the fundamental aspect of a share, not the bid/ask wall.



Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: Lucidize on August 29, 2012, 12:01:15 PM
I have complained about this before, in another thread. I find it is a complete waste of space with the bids 10000@0.00001 or whatever they are.
The chart is useless when these bids appear.

It could just be removed because I don't see the bids going anywhere.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: Nefario on August 29, 2012, 12:54:09 PM

It should at least be a bar chart then, not a line.  So much fail it make me doubt their security.

The price chart show a little blob when you hover onto a trade....  Cute.  :-\

What has a JavaScript chart got to do with security? That's like saying the sites logo is off center a little, must mean they can be hacked.

Anyway, a new version of charts will be live shortly after I get back to London on the 31st, a lot fast and I'm adding a slider which will allow you to specify a range of prices to show (eliminating the problem)

And hovering over a trade to get the blob will give you the price/time.

Nefario.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: dree12 on August 29, 2012, 01:25:27 PM

It should at least be a bar chart then, not a line.  So much fail it make me doubt their security.

The price chart show a little blob when you hover onto a trade....  Cute.  :-\

What has a JavaScript chart got to do with security? That's like saying the sites logo is off center a little, must mean they can be hacked.

Anyway, a new version of charts will be live shortly after I get back to London on the 31st, a lot fast and I'm adding a slider which will allow you to specify a range of prices to show (eliminating the problem)

And hovering over a trade to get the blob will give you the price/time.

Nefario.
Can you please make it "staircase" or "cumulative"? Seeing the exact depth at a certain level is rarely useful. When buying or selling, total depth up to that level is more useful.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: Nefario on August 29, 2012, 01:48:32 PM

It should at least be a bar chart then, not a line.  So much fail it make me doubt their security.

The price chart show a little blob when you hover onto a trade....  Cute.  :-\

What has a JavaScript chart got to do with security? That's like saying the sites logo is off center a little, must mean they can be hacked.

Anyway, a new version of charts will be live shortly after I get back to London on the 31st, a lot fast and I'm adding a slider which will allow you to specify a range of prices to show (eliminating the problem)

And hovering over a trade to get the blob will give you the price/time.

Nefario.
Can you please make it "staircase" or "cumulative"? Seeing the exact depth at a certain level is rarely useful. When buying or selling, total depth up to that level is more useful.

You should be able to change the type of chart.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: Smoovious on September 02, 2012, 02:45:25 AM

It should at least be a bar chart then, not a line.  So much fail it make me doubt their security.

The price chart show a little blob when you hover onto a trade....  Cute.  :-\

What has a JavaScript chart got to do with security? That's like saying the sites logo is off center a little, must mean they can be hacked.

Anyway, a new version of charts will be live shortly after I get back to London on the 31st, a lot fast and I'm adding a slider which will allow you to specify a range of prices to show (eliminating the problem)

And hovering over a trade to get the blob will give you the price/time.

Nefario.
Can you please make it "staircase" or "cumulative"? Seeing the exact depth at a certain level is rarely useful. When buying or selling, total depth up to that level is more useful.

You should be able to change the type of chart.
Will we be able to set our default view in the settings page? :) pweeeeez? :D

-- Smoov


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: burnside on September 03, 2012, 03:13:56 AM
Nefario, I used flot as well.  Dunno if it helps, but feel free to borrow code from: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security?s=LTC-GLOBAL

If you're using SQL, I can PM you my queries that drop off the extremes.



Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: dree12 on September 03, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
Nefario, I used flot as well.  Dunno if it helps, but feel free to borrow code from: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security?s=LTC-GLOBAL

If you're using SQL, I can PM you my queries that drop off the extremes.
Make sure to disable flot's IE compatibility features; they're outdated and break IE.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: burnside on September 03, 2012, 09:31:22 PM
Nefario, I used flot as well.  Dunno if it helps, but feel free to borrow code from: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security?s=LTC-GLOBAL

If you're using SQL, I can PM you my queries that drop off the extremes.
Make sure to disable flot's IE compatibility features; they're outdated and break IE.

People still use IE?   ;)

Got it fixed up... I think, tested with IE 8.  Don't want to hijack the thread, so please post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101694.0 if you have a different version of IE that it does not work in.

Thanks for the heads up!


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: dree12 on September 04, 2012, 12:24:22 AM
Nefario, I used flot as well.  Dunno if it helps, but feel free to borrow code from: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security?s=LTC-GLOBAL

If you're using SQL, I can PM you my queries that drop off the extremes.
Make sure to disable flot's IE compatibility features; they're outdated and break IE.

People still use IE?   ;)

Got it fixed up... I think, tested with IE 8.  Don't want to hijack the thread, so please post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101694.0 if you have a different version of IE that it does not work in.

Thanks for the heads up!
Can't run IE (I'm on Ubuntu), sorry.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: Nefario on September 04, 2012, 12:37:29 AM
Nefario, I used flot as well.  Dunno if it helps, but feel free to borrow code from: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security?s=LTC-GLOBAL

If you're using SQL, I can PM you my queries that drop off the extremes.



I'll be adding a slider as a way to solve this.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: burnside on September 04, 2012, 12:49:57 AM
Nefario, I used flot as well.  Dunno if it helps, but feel free to borrow code from: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security?s=LTC-GLOBAL

If you're using SQL, I can PM you my queries that drop off the extremes.



I'll be adding a slider as a way to solve this.

Awesome, can't wait.


Title: Re: GLBSE's Market dept chart too easily made useless.
Post by: puffn on September 04, 2012, 02:53:31 AM
Nefario, I used flot as well.  Dunno if it helps, but feel free to borrow code from: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security?s=LTC-GLOBAL

If you're using SQL, I can PM you my queries that drop off the extremes.
Make sure to disable flot's IE compatibility features; they're outdated and break IE.

People still use IE?   ;)

Got it fixed up... I think, tested with IE 8.  Don't want to hijack the thread, so please post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101694.0 if you have a different version of IE that it does not work in.

Thanks for the heads up!
Can't run IE (I'm on Ubuntu), sorry.

I think that technically, that's a feature.