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Title: Credibility Feedback Attack:
Post by: r3wt on April 30, 2015, 10:14:18 PM
Michael65 is a malicious user. He has scammed under several accounts. He finds himself at odds with the trusted member titsmoker89, who has caught him in a scam an negative trusted one of his main accounts. He hatches a plan, and painstakingly carries it out over the next several months.

First he starts by picking 10 of his sock puppets. All registered on different days at different time periods, to throw off the scent of any potential investigations.

He starts executing deals with titsmoker89, and exchanging feedback with titsmoker. Now he executes his plan by scamming or attempting to scam with these sockpuppets and subsequently his sockpuppets are all tagged for scamming.


Now titsmoker89 through no fault of his own is associated with scammers, having received many positive feedback from these scammers, which might make titsmoker89 appear to be associated with scamming, causing users to lose trust in him.

What can we do to resolve situations like this?


Title: Re: Credibility Feedback Attack:
Post by: r3wt on April 30, 2015, 11:49:50 PM
^Actual, or hypothetical?  If real, links?

Just hypothetical at this point, however i have seen several trusted users with positive feedback from scamtagged accounts.


Title: Re: Credibility Feedback Attack:
Post by: SaltySpitoon on May 01, 2015, 12:00:08 AM
That would be a pretty elaborate thing to do. How would you guarentee that you would be able to do business with someone on 10 accounts? That would also involve doing successful trades with someone that you dislike. As far as I can tell, there isn't much to do at that point if successful. If titsmoker89 can prove that those alts are all connected to the original person they gave negative feedback to, there would be an established motive for whats going on, but I think the amount of luck requires for everything to fall into line like that would be astronomical. If you have that kind of luck, try the lottery rather than spending months getting back at someone.

*edit* If someone has 10 unknown socks, chances are deals would go through escrow, distancing the parties a little bit.


Title: Re: Credibility Feedback Attack:
Post by: r3wt on May 01, 2015, 12:22:57 AM
That would be a pretty elaborate thing to do. How would you guarentee that you would be able to do business with someone on 10 accounts? That would also involve doing successful trades with someone that you dislike. As far as I can tell, there isn't much to do at that point if successful. If titsmoker89 can prove that those alts are all connected to the original person they gave negative feedback to, there would be an established motive for whats going on, but I think the amount of luck requires for everything to fall into line like that would be astronomical. If you have that kind of luck, try the lottery rather than spending months getting back at someone.

*edit* If someone has 10 unknown socks, chances are deals would go through escrow, distancing the parties a little bit.

what if titsmoker89 is an escrow or other type of service provider?


Title: Re: Credibility Feedback Attack:
Post by: Blazr on September 04, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
Michael65 is a malicious user. He has scammed under several accounts. He finds himself at odds with the trusted member titsmoker89, who has caught him in a scam an negative trusted one of his main accounts. He hatches a plan, and painstakingly carries it out over the next several months.

First he starts by picking 10 of his sock puppets. All registered on different days at different time periods, to throw off the scent of any potential investigations.

He starts executing deals with titsmoker89, and exchanging feedback with titsmoker. Now he executes his plan by scamming or attempting to scam with these sockpuppets and subsequently his sockpuppets are all tagged for scamming.


Now titsmoker89 through no fault of his own is associated with scammers, having received many positive feedback from these scammers, which might make titsmoker89 appear to be associated with scamming, causing users to lose trust in him.

What can we do to resolve situations like this?

what if titsmoker89 is an escrow or other type of service provider?

That won't work against me because I'd be able to spot all of your alt accounts.


Title: Re: Credibility Feedback Attack:
Post by: r3wt on September 04, 2015, 04:22:30 PM
Michael65 is a malicious user. He has scammed under several accounts. He finds himself at odds with the trusted member titsmoker89, who has caught him in a scam an negative trusted one of his main accounts. He hatches a plan, and painstakingly carries it out over the next several months.

First he starts by picking 10 of his sock puppets. All registered on different days at different time periods, to throw off the scent of any potential investigations.

He starts executing deals with titsmoker89, and exchanging feedback with titsmoker. Now he executes his plan by scamming or attempting to scam with these sockpuppets and subsequently his sockpuppets are all tagged for scamming.


Now titsmoker89 through no fault of his own is associated with scammers, having received many positive feedback from these scammers, which might make titsmoker89 appear to be associated with scamming, causing users to lose trust in him.

What can we do to resolve situations like this?

what if titsmoker89 is an escrow or other type of service provider?

That won't work against me because I'd be able to spot all of your alt accounts.

Maybe you can use that skill to grow up...


Title: Re: Credibility Feedback Attack:
Post by: Panthers52 on September 04, 2015, 05:04:21 PM
Michael65 is a malicious user. He has scammed under several accounts. He finds himself at odds with the trusted member titsmoker89, who has caught him in a scam an negative trusted one of his main accounts. He hatches a plan, and painstakingly carries it out over the next several months.

First he starts by picking 10 of his sock puppets. All registered on different days at different time periods, to throw off the scent of any potential investigations.

He starts executing deals with titsmoker89, and exchanging feedback with titsmoker. Now he executes his plan by scamming or attempting to scam with these sockpuppets and subsequently his sockpuppets are all tagged for scamming.


Now titsmoker89 through no fault of his own is associated with scammers, having received many positive feedback from these scammers, which might make titsmoker89 appear to be associated with scamming, causing users to lose trust in him.

What can we do to resolve situations like this?

what if titsmoker89 is an escrow or other type of service provider?

That won't work against me because I'd be able to spot all of your alt accounts.

Maybe you can use that skill to grow up...
I am actually under the impression that Blazr is an adult and had completed the growing up process. There is even a thread out there that talks about him having his own house and about moving to another country which would imply he is in his "adulthood" stage of his life.

You on the other hand should take slightly more responsibility for your actions and should repay those who incorrectly trusted you with their money.

Kind Regards
Panthers52


Title: Re: Credibility Feedback Attack:
Post by: r3wt on September 04, 2015, 06:32:12 PM
Michael65 is a malicious user. He has scammed under several accounts. He finds himself at odds with the trusted member titsmoker89, who has caught him in a scam an negative trusted one of his main accounts. He hatches a plan, and painstakingly carries it out over the next several months.

First he starts by picking 10 of his sock puppets. All registered on different days at different time periods, to throw off the scent of any potential investigations.

He starts executing deals with titsmoker89, and exchanging feedback with titsmoker. Now he executes his plan by scamming or attempting to scam with these sockpuppets and subsequently his sockpuppets are all tagged for scamming.


Now titsmoker89 through no fault of his own is associated with scammers, having received many positive feedback from these scammers, which might make titsmoker89 appear to be associated with scamming, causing users to lose trust in him.

What can we do to resolve situations like this?

what if titsmoker89 is an escrow or other type of service provider?

That won't work against me because I'd be able to spot all of your alt accounts.

Maybe you can use that skill to grow up...
I am actually under the impression that Blazr is an adult and had completed the growing up process. There is even a thread out there that talks about him having his own house and about moving to another country which would imply he is in his "adulthood" stage of his life.

You on the other hand should take slightly more responsibility for your actions and should repay those who incorrectly trusted you with their money.

Kind Regards
Panthers52

You mean like i'm doing here? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826748.0