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Title: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 04, 2015, 05:50:50 PM
The (owner of) the 240.5 wall did not fall for the temptation to lower the wall. Good.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 04, 2015, 07:09:21 PM
Now the API for bitfinex is going haywire again - or is it bitcoinwisdom? That happened yesterday also. People refrain from buying or selling until it has stabilized.

 


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: derpinheimer on May 04, 2015, 07:12:52 PM
Whats the problem?


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 04, 2015, 07:18:49 PM
Whats the problem?

The order book. Suddenly we go to 237.78 (buy) and 237.98 (sell) while currently the price is around 239. Then back to normal after one or two seconds. Happens several times a minute.

Edit: Seems it is okay now. (I verified by opening another window before I posted).


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: derpinheimer on May 04, 2015, 07:21:23 PM
Yeah I see it now. It doesn't appear to be affecting or reflecting actual trades though. Hopefully that stops because its quite annoying   :D


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: criptix on May 04, 2015, 09:29:46 PM
http://bfxdata.com/swaphistory/totals.php

doesnt work for me - anyone else the same problem?


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 04, 2015, 10:51:58 PM
http://bfxdata.com/swaphistory/totals.php

doesnt work for me - anyone else the same problem?

I see a graph. By the way, I had hope for this day, but everyone seems to be waiting. Buy coins now? nah - it is smarter to be sure it is rising, therefore I will buy at 300.



Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 04, 2015, 11:27:02 PM
Steady upward action on low volume. As long as there is a trade of a coin or so each minute, I am happy.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: randy8777 on May 04, 2015, 11:30:20 PM
Steady upward action on low volume. As long as there is a trade of a coin or so each minute, I am happy.


man, you are wasting your time with looking at the price going up and down two bucks. there is nothing special going on at this point.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 04, 2015, 11:42:28 PM
Steady upward action on low volume. As long as there is a trade of a coin or so each minute, I am happy.


man, you are wasting your time with looking at the price going up and down two bucks. there is nothing special going on at this point.

That's probably right, it is more like an obsession.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Amph on May 05, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
what exchange you are talking about?, it's not like there are 240 walls in everyone, i see different walls all over the place, they count nothing, besides the small manipulation they are aiming to


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 05, 2015, 07:45:54 AM
what exchange you are talking about?, it's not like there are 240 walls in everyone, i see different walls all over the place, they count nothing, besides the small manipulation they are aiming to

The title only indicates that I am interested in very short time events in this thread. I normally look at bitfinex at bitcoinwisdom, because I have a feeling that finex is the leading exchange at the moment, after bitstamp had it's accident. Well that can change.

I look at the chart, and try to get some meaning out of the dynamics. So when a large bid moves steadily upwards every five minutes or so, it looks promising. If a buy of 0.01 leads to retraction of the 5 highest bids the next second, I sometimes conclude that the bots are in command and I go to bed.

The behaviour of the bots seems to have changed lately, by the way, they seem to try to fool other bots and people to a larger degree.



Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Amph on May 05, 2015, 07:55:28 AM
what exchange you are talking about?, it's not like there are 240 walls in everyone, i see different walls all over the place, they count nothing, besides the small manipulation they are aiming to

The title only indicates that I am interested in very short time events in this thread. I normally look at bitfinex at bitcoinwisdom, because I have a feeling that finex is the leading exchange at the moment, after bitstamp had it's accident. Well that can change.

I look at the chart, and try to get some meaning out of the dynamics. So when a large bid moves steadily upwards every five minutes or so, it looks promising. If a buy of 0.01 leads to retraction of the 5 highest bids the next second, I sometimes conclude that the bots are in command and I go to bed.

The behaviour of the bots seems to have changed lately, by the way, they seem to try to fool other bots and people to a larger degree.



yeah it's a bots war right now, no surprise there, and it could explain this continuous undulation, also it will be really hard to short with the current small fluctuations(if you have not a bot, like myself), it seems more risky than worth it


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 05, 2015, 08:17:21 AM
what exchange you are talking about?, it's not like there are 240 walls in everyone, i see different walls all over the place, they count nothing, besides the small manipulation they are aiming to

The title only indicates that I am interested in very short time events in this thread. I normally look at bitfinex at bitcoinwisdom, because I have a feeling that finex is the leading exchange at the moment, after bitstamp had it's accident. Well that can change.

I look at the chart, and try to get some meaning out of the dynamics. So when a large bid moves steadily upwards every five minutes or so, it looks promising. If a buy of 0.01 leads to retraction of the 5 highest bids the next second, I sometimes conclude that the bots are in command and I go to bed.

The behaviour of the bots seems to have changed lately, by the way, they seem to try to fool other bots and people to a larger degree.



yeah it's a bots war right now, no surprise there, and it could explain this continuous undulation, also it will be really hard to short with the current small fluctuations(if you have not a bot, like myself), it seems more risky than worth it

So you have a bot? Do you constantly tune it to how other bots behave?



Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Amph on May 05, 2015, 10:12:08 AM
what exchange you are talking about?, it's not like there are 240 walls in everyone, i see different walls all over the place, they count nothing, besides the small manipulation they are aiming to

The title only indicates that I am interested in very short time events in this thread. I normally look at bitfinex at bitcoinwisdom, because I have a feeling that finex is the leading exchange at the moment, after bitstamp had it's accident. Well that can change.

I look at the chart, and try to get some meaning out of the dynamics. So when a large bid moves steadily upwards every five minutes or so, it looks promising. If a buy of 0.01 leads to retraction of the 5 highest bids the next second, I sometimes conclude that the bots are in command and I go to bed.

The behaviour of the bots seems to have changed lately, by the way, they seem to try to fool other bots and people to a larger degree.



yeah it's a bots war right now, no surprise there, and it could explain this continuous undulation, also it will be really hard to short with the current small fluctuations(if you have not a bot, like myself), it seems more risky than worth it

So you have a bot? Do you constantly tune it to how other bots behave?


no no, i prefer to trade manually, also if your bot is not well programmed you can lose more than what you gain, and you needs also to enhance its algo continuously


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 05, 2015, 10:24:08 AM
what exchange you are talking about?, it's not like there are 240 walls in everyone, i see different walls all over the place, they count nothing, besides the small manipulation they are aiming to

The title only indicates that I am interested in very short time events in this thread. I normally look at bitfinex at bitcoinwisdom, because I have a feeling that finex is the leading exchange at the moment, after bitstamp had it's accident. Well that can change.

I look at the chart, and try to get some meaning out of the dynamics. So when a large bid moves steadily upwards every five minutes or so, it looks promising. If a buy of 0.01 leads to retraction of the 5 highest bids the next second, I sometimes conclude that the bots are in command and I go to bed.

The behaviour of the bots seems to have changed lately, by the way, they seem to try to fool other bots and people to a larger degree.



yeah it's a bots war right now, no surprise there, and it could explain this continuous undulation, also it will be really hard to short with the current small fluctuations(if you have not a bot, like myself), it seems more risky than worth it

So you have a bot? Do you constantly tune it to how other bots behave?


no no, i prefer to trade manually, also if your bot is not well programmed you can lose more than what you gain, and you needs also to enhance its algo continuously


Right, I remember the btc-e algo fight, I wonder what really happened.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: minerpumpkin on May 05, 2015, 03:11:33 PM
no no, i prefer to trade manually, also if your bot is not well programmed you can lose more than what you gain, and you needs also to enhance its algo continuously


It always puzzled me how people are using bots they didn't program themselves. I mean, even if they programmed it themselves, they most likely made some kind of mistake. But trusting a bot from someone else with your holdings just seems totally crazy!


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 06, 2015, 09:55:05 AM
no no, i prefer to trade manually, also if your bot is not well programmed you can lose more than what you gain, and you needs also to enhance its algo continuously


It always puzzled me how people are using bots they didn't program themselves. I mean, even if they programmed it themselves, they most likely made some kind of mistake. But trusting a bot from someone else with your holdings just seems totally crazy!

I guess this is the reason most bots are running in test mode. Changing the bids and asks every second, but making a trade only once a minute or less, with an amount of  BTC .01. That can not give much profit.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: diodio1 on May 06, 2015, 10:38:35 AM
The (owner of) the 240.5 wall did not fall for the temptation to lower the wall. Good.


you know what ... its like taheshi wall! someone must do something to pump this situation , almost 6 month bitcoin price is under $300


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 06, 2015, 10:41:20 AM
The (owner of) the 240.5 wall did not fall for the temptation to lower the wall. Good.


you know what ... its like taheshi wall! someone must do something to pump this situation , almost 6 month bitcoin price is under $300

I agree, the price is lower than it should be. To many sit on the sideline waiting for the rise to start.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 06, 2015, 12:09:45 PM
8 minutes between trades on finex. You shouldn't think greece happened, or china, or the bubbles. No, everything is calm.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 06, 2015, 09:50:58 PM
Fun stuff going on. A cough, and an anti-cough.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 06, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
Five decimals after the point, something new?


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: minerpumpkin on May 06, 2015, 10:40:08 PM
Five decimals after the point, something new?


Yeah I was wondering about that as well... Someone in the Wall Observer said that Finex' Margin-trading system was maybe having a bad case of the flu or something, causing people to go short and getting margin-called immediately. Don't know if there's anything to that, though.
Here's an example of the digits: https://i.imgur.com/rHHkIr3.png


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on May 06, 2015, 10:42:45 PM
I have seen that happen many times before on extremely large volumes only. It is weird.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 07, 2015, 11:47:17 PM
We don't have to conquer the world right now, we just need a few thousand new users.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 15, 2015, 11:20:42 PM
Another needle point dump. It seems people are expecting them, and buy into them.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Erdogan on May 16, 2015, 08:55:44 AM
Finex: 15 minutes between trades.


Title: Re: Look only on the one minute chart
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on May 16, 2015, 10:52:02 AM
Nothing is happening. :-\