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I mean, dice game is really simple,and many sites offer the same more or less( in terms of gaming),dice with bot with some configurations.

What makes you decide for a dice site to play in it?

im not sure , but personally i expect instant income fast but i know its risky.

Innovative dice sites that have highly functioning gui, and nothing too silly. Sites with unique qualities and bonuses is a huge plus. I mean no disrespect to current site operators but most do not meet expectations.

The most important factor to me is the trustworthiness of the site and its owner.
Some other factors are the house edge %, presence of automatic withdrawal and stable uptime.

You are right, I forgot about the house edge,that's an objective fact that affects the game  :)

Im looking for low house edge, autobet, jackpot, maybe faucet, good webdesign, instant withdraw and fastbets :)

I'm looking where i can invest some little amounts of BTC and a very trustworthy site. :)

I see Dadice now is the best in the market
they have everything making them the best
especially the faucet

when a dice site lets u claim more than 10K in  satoshi in 5 mins then of course the is the best

It helps having a generous faucet. Calls more players that won't deposit initially. And probably retains them for longer. But another thing I find important is a good social experience. Something to give you the idea that you aren't playing alone. Good chat system. Seeing others play or their bets. And maybe messages when someone wins a jackpot or something.

I want instant deposits and instant withdrawals, ability to check is it provably fair,a fast responding support, and everything else is just a bonus as far as i am concerned.
Sure, some kind of bonuses would be nice, like high paying faucets, but in the end, its not important to me too much, but i see a lot of people are thankful for that.
cheers

Jackpot? would you mind to explain what kind of jackpot you mean? thanks

you need lucky to win from dice sites

The things I expect from dice sites or any gambling sites for that matter are.

-Provably fair
-Smooth rolls
-Instant withdrawals
-Good support
-Nice promotions/giveaways

And ofcourse I expect them to lose all the time when I am playing but that's the feature they all are missing. :D

Im pretty sure he means things like, getting a jackpot for hitting a certain number like 7777 or maybe everytime you bet more than 0.05 you get a lottery ticket, stuff like that.
Personally i dont like dice sites anymore, they are not fun and they will only make you lose money, at least on poker or blackjack you have fun even if you lose.

There is a series of features which should be on some dice site in order to be more attractive for me.For example that dice site should be old enough to have some solid and undisputed track record and most important everything fully automated and provably fair.Timely contests and jackpots and support altcoins to have option to play freely.

First, I will review its confidence level to ensure that it will not scam.

Next, is looking at its long-term plan through the project as well as its promotion to get an overview of its financial situation.

And finally, compare with other sites see the ability of players to win are high or low, more or less, namely that Provably Fair and House Edge

Lose easy, that's my expectation on all dice sites.

As priority you should look for a low house edge, see that it's provably fair, I only start playing a game if I can see it's got good feedback from others, no way am I being a guinea pig & end up getting scammed.
There should be good support & fairly quick withdrawl of funds method.
You'll be unlucky to be scammed now providing you use a well known dice site.

Try https://dadice.com

It's a fairly new site but very popular already, they give away decent bitcoin bounties & I've done the best on DaDice.
Primedice is pretty good too.

Deposit and withdraw is instant is important, and they should be proved fair.

thanks for the answer and the interesting opinion regarding "fun"

I also agree with that. Now it is difficult to find really trustworthy site .. That why now i like dice sites with nice design, so that they were not only digits and to not get bored after 10 minutes :) safety is on second place because of trustworthy.. it still missing in the world of bitcoin and not only dice sites but all over bitcoin business.

that they are no blocked if I move or are in certain parts of the world

Nothing will turn me in to play in a dice sites because there is nothing unique and basically all you need to do is to set up the autobet and go to sleep but what matter the most will be

1. Provably fair system with low (near to zero) house edge , preverably safedice for this since its house edge of 0.5 %

2. Unique system , which is not a copy from the other sites , preverably dadice because of its unique faucet system and rollin.io for its unique UI

3. Faster roll speed, preverably fortunejack because it seems like they are the fastest for my slowies connection

4. Operators and support, since we are to talk about playing in a dice sites which involves depositting in the sites. This two element could be essential in deciding which dice sites to play since there could be a chance where your deposit might get stuck, for this case it might be JustDice and Primedice although their support are not fast enough to deal with support emails .

I want fast sites, with nice UI and design and of course trustable sites

People care too much about the design or aspect of these dice sites, i dont really know why. You like to lose and have a nice view or whats the deal? The only thing dice sites should have is fast commands and fast bets, provably fair obviously and pretty much thats it, if they do giveaways and allow invest a lot of people will fall in their trap. Anyways new dice sites are hard to maintain now because people like to use trusted and old ones since new ones cant really offer anything new.

It is all about difference between real game of dice and internet game .. Design reduces the difference. The problem is to build confidence to the website by the owner.  In the world of bitcoin is a problem because principle of anonymity is clashing with confidence. Someone who will do it right for sure in the future will earn a lot of money ;)

The thing I expect from dice sites is to offer something unique over all the others less why would I play or even go there? As others have mentioned trust and reliability is a big factor so why would people risk gambling at a new site when they can just used established trusted ones instead? Dicesites get boring and tedious fast and to survive they probably need to expand or offer something fresh at least.

I expect a  -1% House edge but its obviously not going to happen, a 0% house edge casino is nice but it wouldnt matter since you would still lose but i guess people like faucets and free bitcoins so that would be the best thing to do honestly if you want to succeed just make huge tons of giveaways

to tell you the truth i will never invest/play on a dice site, some ppl like me is better to never do it, reason? so easy my stupid bad lucky :P

on the other side now it is difficult to find really trustworthy site, so be carrefully when you "play" on those sites.but if you search you will find it, so maybe thats one of the main reason that someone who play on those sites want, a trustworthy site.

All dice sites gives you loss and at least 99% of users ends with a loss.
For me the Main or important thing was the rewards on every milestone.

So you want to achieve some levels according to you time spend on betting and then being rewarded for that? For example if you wager 1 BTC - you will reach level 2 and your prize will be 0.1?
That is your milestones, or I did not catch your thought at all? If this is it then I've seen some sites with experience system already - but in majority of cases is just to show off your dedication to gambling on that specific site and no additional perk comes with it.

Since dice is a simple game so it won't be hard to learn how to play it eventhough you're new into dice industry.
I'm usually looking fast rolling when betting & low house edge. Any unique funtion also appreciate ( ex: leveling faucet,achievement,leaderboard,etc)

DaDice has that thing of levels and the more level you are the more free bitcoins you can get from the faucet, i think thats cool because you can just play with the free money and maybe just maybe you will make a little fortune with a good amount of luck

I expect from dice sites you be really really fast with bets
to have good autobets,really good faucets and affiliates,and to be fair ofcourse

fast rolls
instant deposit
instant withdrawal
fast response service

high rate faucet :D

The main and only thing I really care about while playing dice is trust in the site I am playing at and to be provably fair, I couldn't care less about pretty this and that as long as they have been around awhile with little to no complaints then I am a happy camper. It should also not lag as that is probably the most annoying thing. Instant withdrawals are good but will not make my decision as I am in no rush in life.

so your main goal is to abuse faucet and get as much money as possible yes?

I expect low house edge and fast autobet.

All other things are optional

Faucet on dice site is a nice addition, I agree. But this is rather appealing to crowd who don't take gambling seriously. "High Rate" faucet meaning it will be still ultra low.
And if you like playing with 5 cents rolls you are not going to win any money, and casino won't earn anything either. Thats why faucet is not top priority feature.

The most important thing to me is trust. Can I trust the site with my money? The house edge and speed of deposits and withdraws are also important, but trust is #1.

This; in the first place the games should be FAIR and owners should be able to proof that their games are fair. Besides that, users should be able to trust the website in the owners; I think quite much BTC / funds are going around on these dice websites and you should be able to trust that your funds are safe on the website.

Less important but still important factors for me are the layout of the games and the speed of the games (fast servers / scripts!). It should be easy to make deposit and withdrawals (fast) and in the end, a good customer service should be present (which can respond to questions / bugs / other problems etc fastly).

The most important thing is trustworthiness.
Other factors :
- Provably fair
- Instant deposit & withdraw
- Fast rolling speed (at least 3bets/second)
- Promotions :)
- Great support service (fast respond)
- Lower house edge (under 1%)

The things I expect from a dice sites the foremost is that it needs to be trusted and that is gained through it's fair dealings from a long period of time.

Other than that the things that I look for in a dice sites are, the UI should be simple and not bulky at all because usually when I play I have a lot of things running in the background and I want the dice to take as much less resource as possible.

The rolls should be smooth and fast, faster deposit and withdrawals and last but not the least, a pleasant environment in chat as I think having nice people in chat and friendly mods always increases your overall gambling experience.

I like sites with nice design,not as these sites that are run from a template, it gives them more trustability because they are worked and with an effort and professionality

if it would be instant people could double spend btc and abuse it

Yes, I have seen some sites to change it from instant to 1 confirmation to avoid the abuse of bad people
At least in deposits, there is no problem with instant withdrawal
I don't consider it so important

I want an honest and fair game. No scams. That's basically it.

I would say a nice design, with something unique about it. The trust is a big issue too.

The invest option is nice for me too, investing is safer and more profitable than gambling.

If you are asking me what would make me to switch from primedice to other dice site, then the answer is; nothing.
I honestly believe you can do nothing better than what they already have.

The thing I expect from dice sites is to offer something unique compared to others to attract new people fast otherwise if it is same then people visit already established site.

But we should remember one thing that whatever chance of winning that we use will end in loss, if we can not stop playing when we win a some decent profit...........

that they have option to play with real dices(6-sided or whatever) too?

funny that most dices sites don't have dices

Hmm pocketdice is the only one that resembles rolling real dice AFAIK, but under the hood it is just like all the other "dice" sites and generates a random number with a hash.

I don't think this is a problem.
It's very easy to stop double spend.
The deposit can be confirm by the gambling site  instant, and you can play immediately, but only you deposit has at least 1 confirmation, then your play is valid and you can withdraw your coins.   

Provably Fair
Instant Withdraws (if within the hot wallet's limit)
Looks cool or nice or new
Invest option with margin or kelly multipliers
Incentive to play more often
Incentive to invest longer
Trustworthy
64 sided dice. hehehe.

Expectting something different than the ordinary copy dice sites. More or less like rollin.io which has a unique gameplay . Provably fair is also one of the thing that I will consider and if the sites allow to play at 0 confirmation than it will be very nice because waiting for confirmations is boring  ;D ;D

Trustworthy people running the site.  Fast support in under 24 hours without fail.  Instant deposit and withdraws for small-medium amounts. Fair games. The ability to be social the more ways the better.

The most important feature is a fast withdrawal. Because you may need the funds right then and there and waiting is not an option.

Dice sites will probably die off eventually especially when the market gets saturated. I think they need to do what I heard PrimeDice are doing and expand by adding more games. Dice is pretty simple so it's ok to play occasionally but I'm sure people are more interested in other games that they could play and go back to dice when they wanted.

I expect a lot from dice site,

1. Good faucets -- dadice and rollin gives us it.
2. Low House Edge -- safedice has 0.5% house edge, it give us this option
3. Fast deposit & withdraw confirmation  still dadice and rollin, 1 confirmation deposit and instant withdrawal.
4. Nice UI and sound -  rollin has them, so does dadice.
5. social feature, send and get tip from others, like dadice chatting room.

Overall, dadice is NO.1, rollin is NO.2 ;D

primedice also has some things you mentioned like 1, 3, 4(no sound though), 5

Depends. Dice is a fast game with simple rules. And offers immediate results. Lots of people like that. And prefer it to more complicated games that need more time. No wonder dice games haven't disappeared after existing for 5000 years. Maybe sites having more games helps. It certainly brings in more players. But I doubt good dice sites will ever die off completely.

I expect dice sites should have 0 confirmation deposit and instant withdrawal.
This are the most basic features every dice sites should have to attract customer.
People do not like to waste for deposit confirmation before betting on dice.

you do realize that zero confirmation deposits and instant withdrawals would lead to people who like to abuse sites scamming the dice site with double spending transactions and the site would easily go out of money yes?

First and foremost, I expect dice sites to have a low house edge and be provably fair.  But there are some other important factors too.  It should be fun and that means having a likable UI.  It doesn't have to be fancy, modern or anything... it just has to appeal to the user.  Occasionally, I like to chat so I'll usually play more at sites where people aren't jerks in chat.  Heh... if I'm winning and chat sucks I'll just ignore chat! 

That's it really: fairness, fun and hopefully some coin in my pocket if I play smart :-)

I believe double spending can be solved by some technology.

fast deposits are more important.

I can wait my deposits get some confirmations before I can withdraw.

But wait several hours for a deposit be manually confirmed really sucks

1. 3.  Agree
No sound :))  If you get disconnect sound on dadice, you will shit your pants at 3 am.

In overall.
UI - darker template, no hovers. Almost a combo from primedice.com and bitdice.me would be nice.

Edit: Forgot to mention trust!

no hovers? why that?

Swapping windows, and seeing a "box" sliding back and forth is by the end of the day really annoying and  if it slips from your cursor, you have to do it again. Infact it is not very tablet friendly.

Just looking for honesty in the admin, a nice look is a bonus but not essential if it is provably fair and honest guys running it.

How do you expect to know if the admin is honest ? The history for dice sites hasn't been nice, looking at how legit the owners looked, but they ended up scamming and taking away the bank rolls.

there have been owners like Dooglus that have been transparent throughout the running od the site :D we are looking for admins such as the DaDice ones who know how to run a promotion and gain users trust !

I don't know how you can vouch for someone who's on dice scene for 2 months. Trust is gained by time, not by promotions.

Honesty is built and earned over time but it doesn't come easy (and so it shouldn't). I think it's safe to say both stunna and dooglus are honest and they've earned that title by doing many honest things and being reasonable and fair over several years.

That's true. Although I don't know Dooglus, I think Stunna has a really solid reputation over here. Especially because of his Primedice advertisement campaign in which he paid many BTC to all the participants (on time and in the right amount).

However, even the people who appear to be honest, fair and can be trusted today can end up in people who are not. I think we've seen already a few (well running) exchanges going suddently online. And what happend with MtGox.. I think many people thought their funds were secure over there..

-Fair site
-Fast Rolls
-Honest admin
-And a perfect community :)

Trust of the admin/owner and provably fair games are the most important, especially if allowing investments.

Trust should not be based on paying members in a sig campaign though. We've seen 3 major scam sites build up fake trust doing that then running away with thousands of Bitcoins of players and investors.

https://pocketrocketscasino.eu is the most trusted Bitcoin dice site in this regard. Running over 2 years with the largest amount of Bitcoin invested of all Bitcoin dice sites that also provides proof of solvency.

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Must agree with PRC...trust is gained by time, not by promotions. Everyone talks about dadice - how they are the best, because they have great promotions and we can trust them 100%!?
Site is 2 months old, so I don't trust them at all. Too many sites scammed users who invested in it, so if website is not at least one year old, I'm not buyin'

Back to the topic: Low house edge, fast rolling speed (more than 2/sec), chat, fair and polite admins, faucet, instant deposit.

i guess it takesa time to devleop trust but you gotta admit how DaDice is progressing rapidly and building up a great image for itself :D btw i would also like altcoin acceptance in some casinos as altcoins are perfect for gambling with a few pennies :P

well trust is first on a list
then faucet and polite and helpfull support fast best are + too and then after all there should be some promotions

That is what trust is something you build over time my friend, trust is earned but you sure are right they are doing a very good job and building that trust. Your awesome signature campaign has helped towards that imo as well as the very active support ready to deal with any problems that come up. 

First on my list I need to trust the admin of the site to feel safe playing with any significant amount and it has to be provably fair obvioulsy as most sites are, fast to instant deposits/withdrawals. The rest can be worked on after this foundation is in place.

@ srgkrg some casino's do accept altcoins if you would like to know which pm me it is a biggish casino.

I think good chatting environment and good rules in duce sites !!

nice UI, fast response from admin :)
big community on chat, best feature like fast auto bet
of course instant withdraw & deposit also low house edge, provably fair ;)

Lifechat with support with a beautiful woman.

I have noticed now that I didn't give my thoughts

I want a nice UI design, simple but complete games, trustability and a low house edge

I guess primedice has its faucet and chatbox that can be entertaining
Otherwise I guess having more types of games besides dice once your bored can lead you to gravitate to it

Something that stands out from other dice sites. Something that is unique and not on many dice sites. If there aren't any reasons, what makes your dice site superior than others? I would suggest a cool way of implementing a faucet, maybe some games you can play to pass the time and also earn more btc.

Faucets aren't really unique as many dice sites do have them. However, I think faucets are a great way to increase the total amount of bets - which might result in making your dice site more popular. I think the reason why most site use the traditional ways of CAPTCHA - faucets is that they actually get paid for this and that they can confirm that bots are not making use of their faucets 24/7.  I don't think there is a 'cool way' to implement a faucet without loosing these benefits.

Some extra, nice and new games to earn some extra BTC (even without any bets required) should be great indeed. This will make a dice set more popular.

I don't look for dice games, and doubly so on the internet. I do expect each and everyone of them to roll over and disappear sometime in the not-to-distant future.

If you deposit any coins, on any of these, you deserve to lose every cent  .... errrr, I mean satoshi.

A easier method to verify it isnt cheating, or a tutorial on how we can verify its not cheating us.

The best part of dice sites are that most of the site have cool UI, also the house edge and the sites are simple and easy to use.

first of all i want a cool and smooth interface which i can work easily with and i like.

also since i mostly use the dice website's bot i want the bot to have the necessary options and most importantly i want it to be easy to use. also the bot needs to be fast.

also faucet is a nice feature that i think needs to give a decent amount to let you get back in if you go down to zero someday.

different prizes and giveaways and stuff like that are also nice.

To me, I care only about the trust. All the other things are good to have but not that important IMO.


Well if you deposit your coin to a random new site, then yup you should prepare to lose it. But I wouldn't expect the most trustworthy sites to do a runner.
For example, JD had 60000 bitcoin at one point, didn't do a runner but gave everyone back their bitcoin when it was closed last year.

I want a nice UI and a website that runs smoothly on my pc as well as my phone.
faucet is also a nice feature witch can help sometimes.
the whole being fair thing is obviously a necessity.
and most importantly i would like to win :D

1) Trust
2) Features (Fast rolls, Responsive website)

I can think of the following things a dice site must have to make me playing my BTC with it.

• A light, nice, UI;
• a stable, responsive, debugged site working on multiple devices (notebooks, tablets, smartphones, etc.);
• a friendly, responsive, problem-solving customer support answering on multiple channels (site chat, btct forum, e-mail, etc.);
• a low house edge;
• provably fair;
• a customizable autobet feature;
• fast rolls;
• instant deposits & withdrawals;
• a good faucet feature;
• an investment option.

A faucet as a start would be good with a nice amount of Satoshis to start with and explore the website also fair and no "win win" so you deposit more then "RIP" , also the trust because basically if you don't trust the website or the owner of it ... well you will never use it .
and that's why the most used websites are DaDice and PrimeDice and probably SatoshiMines (not sure about his correct name :o ) .
a nice Graphic user interface always helps . If it's ugly I close the window if it's not I stay ;D

If there was a FAQ section linking how we can verify its rolls would be better explanation then word text.

some basically another primedice site, but no dice roll lag.

It's needs to have something diffrent, it needs a diffrent style. Something that makes it it.

Who need design. The site should load and work smoothly.

I doubt someone wants to play on a lagging platform, where a button jams and nothing loads.

Simple, clean.

many users ofcourse look at the design too, if the design is quite low quality then most users wont visit a site again even it has good site speed and features

Well, if your design is hyper fancy like on dadice for example, it hovers and slides away on smaller screen, the features wouldn't care much, as for the annoying ping at 3 am, that the SSL is down.

Same goes to Primedice good light colored design which is really nice, but the fact there is a lot of people, using autobet and canceling it you have to wait 15 seconds or more, from time to time the button roll jams.

I still take platform over design, for example bitdice, simple, dark and haven't had lag and loading issues (exept nginx from ddos).

If you tell me that my internet connection is poor. I got 10MB/s up and 40MB/s down.

I am pretty sure most people visit sites pretty sites because they have faucet. People that gamble with real money, they go where things work.

You are all invited and after reading through this thread I think you will find most of the things you are looking for at BetterBets.io (especially if you like very fast autobetting)

Check out our latest post to see the event :) (yes theres a bit of free BTC too)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065847.msg11537824#msg11537824 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065847.msg11537824#msg11537824)

as long the site has decent sign, and paysout, doesnt crash, or have incredible dice lag it should be good.

I second this recommendation. I've been playing on their site frequently and they have by far the fastest built-it bot I've ever seen. Even on my relatively low-powered internet connection, I get about 5 rolls/second.

Also, they are a partner of MoneyPot.com, so you can be sure that they won't (actually they can't) steal your funds or fudge the rolls outcome.

Give them a try, you'll be pleasantly surprised, I know I was. They're fairly new but have a really active dev team and add new features all the time; also one of their mods/devs is usually available in chat and always very helpful.

For me one from the most important elements is support. It shows if owner is taking his service seriously or not.

SUPER fast with up to 10 bets/second and advance autobet on https://www.crypto-games.net ;)

if I come to a website that looks ugly, im defaulted on being it sense of trust worthy from the start.

Happy Hour (with the goal of load testing) is on @ https://betterbets.io (https://betterbets.io) ... you'll get tipped just for showing up and running their bot. Check 'em out, you'll (most probably) like them ...

I think design is very important in gaming site.... a good design gives good impression about the site and attracts more players ...
Using unnecessary design will surely cause lagging but  a good design is must needed and sites which do not have good design do not look trust worthy

There are hundreds of dice sites. So what I would like the dice site is some new innovation, something to make boring dice hell lot of fun.

Well then you may want to take a look at pocketdice if you haven't done so.
It is a dice site that works very different from all the other dice sites.

My expectations:
*Super fast auto bet like betterbits,io.
*Free coins upon sign up like minidice.ga
*Rain bot feature like diggit.io
*Probably fair not like PD.(no offense)
*Friendly support in which any one can chat , no need to wager some amount.

~that's all i want , most important is [2] ;)

No offense, but just curious what problems do you think the current PD provably fair algorithm have?

1. good promotion like dadice has it.

2. high faucet money we can roll, dadice has it.

3. fast deposit and withdrawals, dadice has it.

4. big jackpot, dadice has it.

5. high rate affiliate program, dadice has it.

IMO, dadice is the best dice site in btc community. And I get 65 downlines, currently i am level 49, have 12250 sat faucet, and 30% of commissins, damn cool site, I love it very much. Although I don't wear their sig now, I still promote them for free. :D

Its just ironical.
Never felt any problems , i just hate their chat box as it needs some amount to be wagered before you can enter the room.
Betterbets is much better than them .

That is there for a reason though, after you get big, you get many spammers. And if your are really intent on getting to chat, just 2 faucets at 98% should do it.

maybe if I feel comfortable playing there and I always make a profit :D
if not both of them, I would not decide to play dice on that site

I expect #1 proper provably fair implementation.
You don't want to be scammed, don't you?
Then I expect a beatiful ui and a reasonable house edge.
If both of these conditions are true, along with ease to withdraw, I will
most likely like the site.

well yeah then dice is one of the best to play. but if you want to spend your time and enjoy it you should select casinos over dice

Dice sites are pretty much all the same. The only thing I ask from a good dice site is a lower house edge and fast latency speeds with my location.

But dice sites are pretty much getting old for me. I rather play other games even with a higher house edge.

in my opinion dice has to have a huge faucet to be attractive for players and good design is always one of the things people want to see

I don't think faucet is so important because faucet is just to test the game and no to try to get a profit because it is almost impossible

Expecting to have some fun  ;D

Loosing or gaining it's fun  ;)

well if it would be really high it would be possible to withdraw though people would start to abuse it so i think its not needed

my expect to get profit from dice
but im not lucky always.

I expect to win some and lose some from dice sites: but they should be completely transparent and honest however it is really hard to find an honest dice site nowadays...

dice just funs man
but i think all expect to win. of course.
good luck.

i expect to win and get a profit from a dice sites
or instant withdraw and deposit

I only expect transparency, a lower house edge, a good look and layout, and instant withdrawals.  I don't even care if they have faucets or not.

thats a bad way of thinking; dice is gambling, and you should never expect to win from gambling. losing is a thing too you know...

I think bitcoinrush meets all these, we're transparent through moneypot, a crazy low house edge 0.1%, a nice theme and support instant withdrawals.

We're short a few features like autobet, but I'm working on it.

https://www.bitcoinrush.com/  Try for yourself )

play for fun
and get profit i withdraw and like instant deposit
not take 1confirmations :D

Most website allow instant deposits but all websites don't allow instant withdraws without confirmations. It would be too easy to cheat the websites that way.

What I expect? I expect to don't bust all of the sudden because of some glitch. :P

1 confirmation for either withdraw or deposit is necessary, it protects the casino from being victim to a double spend; one could deposit, and withdraw instantly, the proceed to invalidate the transaction that was used to deposit to the casino. as a result, the casino would have been robbed of the deposit value.

Provably fair
Big bankroll and bet limit
Fast auto roll
Giveaways
Secure

are you talking about primedice? i think it's the best dice around

fair and simply is the most important things for me.

id put secure as number one on my list personally, id like to know my deposits are safe no matter where i gamble.

Although i know it's risky, i still expect to double or triple my coins or even more on dice sites
It's the best way for me to multiply your coins instantly
You just need to be a risk-taker and of course, lucky  ;)

I invest in dice bankroll,to make some profit.
I do not recommend you  to play at dice sites, because on long-term house win.

i thing everyone have expect same with me.
to win from gambling and i know in gambling high risk to play.

This is risky also because the site might run off with your money or there can be a high roller and take everybody out.

I also must tell you that I have seen many dice sites bit many bitcoins in losses...
So be careful

i think these are the most important things that a dice site must have:

• Provably fair
• Security, like having a secure offline wallet, secure against hacks DDos and etc, having wFA
• having a simple website, not many graphics that slows the loading down
• being able to run on cell phones too
• good bot with Fast auto roll
• Giveaways are always nice too :D

thank you for it
and always be careful to play in gambling
because i know many poeple loss in dice sites

thank you.
good luck.

Investing in a new site is risky, but the risk of a runner is low IMO if you invest in an old site with good reputation and history.
Also, a lucky high roller won't cause you to lose too much, if you invest with 1x Kelly.

I expect from dice site transparency , provably fair , enough BTC in bankroll and fast rolls

*Provably fair
*a very simple website
*fast auto roll bot
 ;D ;D ;D

if thats all there are plenty out there

Yes there are plenty of site out there but i dont think so most them are fair and most of them lag

I would go for dice sites with instant deposit & withdrawal and low house edge.
Graphics doesn't matter to me as long as I have a higher chance of winning at dice.

I like fast (1 confirmation max) deposit confirms and instant withdrawals (when you see it deducted from your player account you should see it as an unconfirmed tx in your wallet immediately) <---
provably fair?? eh i mean i # is a # is a # if they are gonna rig it they are gonna rig the provably fair aspect of it too...
any promotions are good... FortuneJack for example i love their dice jackpot where you can win way more than your wager amount randomly just by getting lucky...
faucets are ok, but really not something I would personally ever try to get rich or play strictly off of since it takes a miracle to go from a few k satashi to a meaningful withdraw
Chat is always a good factor which will keep players there if you are just an anonymous user you can come and go but once you feel a certain bit of community spirit or befriend the other players you will come back just to enjoy your day and play

Graphic is always a matter here because everyone will be attracted at the first glance because of the graphic not because of the lower edge for most people as most dont even know about house edge and such ( loves at the first sight due to attractiveness ), this is atleast for most people.
Due note that even with a pretty low house edge, the chances are still there for you to bust and at worst you can still suffer a huge lost streak even without an edge ( luck plays a vital part here )

For references :

https://www.moneypot.com/apps/85-quantum-dice --> 0.01 - 0.03 promotional house edge
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/121-bitcoinrush   --> 0.1 % fixed house edge

Both uses the same script and almost the same design.

imo no gambling site provide us the higher chance to win, it just depend on yourself, you need the strategy to raise your possibility to win.

there is no such thing as a strategy in pure gambling, its a game of chance you either win or loose against the house for some time, and most probably loose

There isn't any real winning strategy, but it has been proven that there are methods you can take to lower your risk of ruin and have a slight statistical advantage over players betting by a different approach.

but wouldnt it take a lot of time and wouldnt the bettor have to bet really small amounts to have almost risk-free bets? i doubt its worth the efforts

the lower house edge was increase our chance to win right?
so find the lowest house edge and go for it.
however i agree with you, the strategy is one of things that gain possibilities player to win.
the rest is absolutely your lucky time.

the house edge doesnt increase your chance to win, but it increases the pay when you do win... say if you were betting 1mbtc at 10% even $ would pay 10mbtc for a win, but with the house edge it would only pay 9.9mbtc giving the house that .1mbtc edge ... your chances to win are not effected only the payout

I don't think this is correct.

 A 1% House edge would mean that on a 1btc bet at 2x, you'd have to hit either <49.5 or >50.5 and your EV (expected value) of the bet would be 0.99BTC

If a 0.5% House edge was in effect, that would mean that on a 1btc bet at 2x, you'd have to hit either <49.75 or >50.25 and your expected value would be 0.995BTC.

The lower house edge means that you'll win all the times that the target number falls between 49.5-49.74 or 50.26-50.5.

my expect so simple
provably fair and trust. of course
fast rolls and instant deposit & Withdraw.

betting t 49.5% for even money is lowering your your chances for even payout, i guess its the same really either way you look at it, i was just going off what he said about it changing your chances of einning, you can set your chances of winning at whatever you want, but the house edge takes away some of the pay... but yes both are correct

i would expect for it to have a big enough faucet to try the game out, really interesting design to compete with others, and good provably fair system

 instant deposit & withdraw and good luck :)) ;)

it is impossible to have as casinos are afraid of people double spending because of that they require at least one confirmation before withdrawing the funds to your wallet

Hmm sounds right, but I guess the house edge doesn't too affect our possibility, the strategy or method does  :)

No gambling sites provide us with the upper hand, or else they would be out of business.
But having ultra low house edge like 0.1% makes it still VERY small profits for the casino, but its pretty much an equal experience for the player, the house edge isn't really noticeable.

dice sites are entertaining sometimes but my rule of thumb is never play with someone who you can't see or else you'll end up scratching your head asking your self "what happened???"

That is right generally, but you also should avoid very new site and any site with unsolved complaints.

Well I think every new gambling sites provide us some good promotions to get our attention to play there. Why do we avoid those  ;)

I like dice because it's simple to adjust our winnings,luck,seed,etc rather than playing card
If I want to test the provably fair, I just claim the faucet and the result will instant.
Also I like community so chat tab is important things to be add on dice site.

I don't really get the chat function of dice websites. What do they offer? You visit a dice website to gamble. If you want to chat, I'm sure you can find better chat websites than the chat functions on these dice websites.

In the end there's not much to communicate about: it's all about your own wins and losses.

The reason is that not all but some of the new sites will be a scam and they will just disappear after getting enough deposit.

We can check how much the amount we will be at risk, I think there is no new gambling site that ask us to deposit >0.005 btc imo, then its okay if just few satoshi. If there is, dont play at that site.

transparency is among the most important I would agree; dadice got a ton of flak in the recent past for refusing to disclose cold storage addresses claiming a "private investor" as the reason. with proof of solvency, people wont have to worry about potentially not getting paid out if the house's bankroll runs dry.

how much lowest house edge
good for dice sites? how about 1.05% lowest house edge
good or bad?

1% edge has become a standard more or less; there are some sites with a lower edge but even the more popular dice sites like dadice and primedice have a 1% edge. 1.05% seems a tad high considering that.

sounds good. thank you for the information
i will try on primedice have a 1% edge
my expect wd and deposit there very..very.. fast.

just be aware that PD has a 1 confirmation requirement on deposits for them to be credited to your account; and keep in mind that this is gambling, no matter how safe you think some strategy might be, there is always a chance you will lose. have fun!

There's been some changes lately with dice sites.  A lot of them are really tightening up their code and big wins even with okay betting strategy are few and far between.  Just goes back to the basic lesson of only wager what you can lose and hope that you get some entertainment out of it.

But more than that... what's with the commercialism of rubber stamped sites?  all this special "moneypot" login stuff... is it just a gill net approach?  Pretty weird/slash annoying.

Totally wrong on this, codes stays the same and it is provably fair nothing more than that. I dont know which dice sites are you pointing your fingers too but there hasnt been any significant changes lately



What are you trying to say? Trust issue is one of the significant reason why some sites are using moneypot's API apart from its bankroll. If you take your little time to read a few pages back , you can see alot of post that indicates that trust factor is one of the reason for them to play

Now the question will be, who will trust such a one day old casino/dice sites with large amount of funds ?also that not to mention if the provably fair is rigged

This is how moneypot's API come in handy because you dont need to trust the new casino owner but you only needs to trust moneypot for that. Your funds are secured by moneypot and they checked the provably fair automatically.
This is not a rubber stamped if you actually take your time to check one of those moneypot integrated casino or take your time to read it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020726.0

If you are not aware, moneypot's owner = bustabit owner ( Ryan ). He may not be as famous as Stunna / Dooglus but you can trust him with your funds

safety is on first place and provably fair system with low house edge, faster roll speed , operators and fast support and i like dice sites with nice design

in my mind, how to obtain additional income quickly, but mostly I lost the game

No matter how low the house edge is, gambling on a dice site always gives you a negative expected value.
If you want to get a profit, investing in a trusted site would be a much better choice.

But what is trusted, PrimeDice? I thought that DaDice is trusted site but recently I've seen some scam accusation and Dadice closed their forum signature campaign because of that.
I still don't know if that were real accusations or just competitors joined forces to destroy DaDice. So now I see that even highly popular Dice Site could be in danger of being 'untrustworhy'.

i would think transparency and providing information such as proof of cold storage funds, easily checkable provably fair, etc would define trustable. the dadice affair was started with the refusal to reveal their cold storage address iirc.

Yeah doog and other "old-school" dice site owners seem intent on going against each and every statement dadice makes. The last one from doog being a hilarious statement about "due to go". As I see its not actually a requirement to post bankroll for every site. Say PD for example, they have accepted private investors(umnamed though) and they donot show their bankroll. Only difference in the sites is that stats of investors in dadice is shown but not PD.

because we get money with double with quickly

what you can expect from gambling ? sometime you will sometime you loss i will say its all and all depend on your luck because mostly sites have 49% winning and 50% losing ratio which means you have almost the same chances to win and loss so you can expect from dise site to double your money or eat up all

dice needs to have nice design something like rollin i love it.
+ some faucet and trusted owner would be even better :D
regards.
-Katerniko1

Did you think about chance to halve your money?

Actually, there are various and sometimes significant differences in code among the different dice sites.  Not too long ago, there was a thread in here about one site that didn't calculate rounding of numbers quite right which resulted in players have a slight edge if they bet in a certain way.  So, that's actually a draw to dice sites and in my opinion that is where new dice sites can prove themselves to enter the market.  Things like jackpots are interesting and fun but so far the implementation is poor from what I've seen.

i feel like whatever i do when gambling i end up losing in the end.
i was recently trying some new strategy of betting in a dice site and it was hundred percent successful for four days and i calculated every possibility but in the fifth day everything went to hell and i lost all my bankroll.

I know what you mean. Its the worst feeling in the world to lose everything that you've gained and then some.

Those was a silly mistakes from the house and no one realized that until few weeks ago. You cant compare that sites with dice sites in moneypot. For a new sites to prove themselves, time is the only thing that needed. People here are not too "friendly" to give a chance to a new dice sites ( this is a fact, look at some new dice sites with potential here ) despite how good the site are therefore with moneypot things are going smoother because no one need to trust the new site owner since every funds will be getting in and out from moneypot

For me, instant or fast withdrawals are important, and reliability.

There are many dice sites which show "Provably Fair" on their site, but there are some sites that I feel which ain't provably fair and cheating their users...
There should be complete transparency for us to be able to trust these sites...

The best example nowadays that seems to be turned out to scam is "SatoshiDice", the biggest name in its industry...

instant withdrawals are impossible as it would lead to people double spending their bitcoins, for me i need provably fairness and a faucet

as far as i am concerned the gambling site has to be fair most of all . because if their system has flaws or even if they are scamming in their coding, then it is not even worth visiting their site.

the second thing is the bot. i like to do my bettings automatically . so i would expect a nice and fast bot which i can set up to my likings and start betting with it for long periods.

Yes even the PR team from satoshidice speak rudely to its users. BTW you may want to reword your statement, it is not exactly a scam site, it has just not replied to the comments, and there may be several reasons for it.

i don't care so much for the looks but i want it to be fast and safe with a decent looks is fine

I am glad to see my thread is still interesting  ;D

I want to ask your favourite sites too guys

I think that's what he meant when he said fast withdraws, There is no such things in the bitcoin world as instant withdraws.

some factors makes i decide to play at a dice site are:
it's easy to play and don't take much time to play & know the result..
the wager are kindly welcoming to player with little BTC on bankroll too..
and some site are offering giveaway, so it's can be played free even without any personally deposit first..

Well my favorites sites are dadice, primedice and diggit.

Be careful with dadice, recently they have been showing a really suspicious behavior, just stick to primedice as it is the most trusted dice site before, probably, just-dice.

i hope dice site have a solid security.
nice looks.
very nice support.
daily, weekly, monthly prize would be nice.

i have to disagree with you, you say that they are suspicious just because they did not show their money to public? look at how much prizes they gave away already, its much more than primedice i believe

My favourite dice sites would be Primedice and Just-dice, because of they are the most trustworthy among the others.

yeah, I agree . I have had some troubler in some of my withdrawals which took a long time.

sometimes it is mandatory to receive your bitcoin fast because you might want to use in someplace else.

When I play at dice sites, the MOST important is provably fair and speed. I am far more likely to play more if the interface is fast. I do not want menus and chat box sliding out left and right. Just simple fast rolls and a nice bot.

The autoroll options on dice sites are too simple. I want them to be more sophisticated, more conditions to decide on the next rolls. I suppose if the autorolls are better equipped at grinding, dice sites are likely to loose more money. There is no real incentive for site to improve on them.

in addition to receiving awards based on user  activities ', I believe that a bot to place bets automatically give much' interest

I believe a 100% win-rate dice would be nice, but it's not going to happen ;)

But something like 80% win rate is perfectly doable imo. Multiplayers would be really, really low and you could bet only with peanuts so you won't get rich from it but it is perfectly possible.
But earning rate from this would rather be close to faucet level that any real gambling.

then what is the profit for the website owners :D

with 100% win-rate you are just taking their money without doing anything :)

Perfect match for guys like you is https:www.crypto-games.net  (http://https:www.crypto-games.net)  ;)

Ya thats right no gaming site will give you 100% win rate..gambling site are here to make some money not to lose their own money

I just expect it to be fast roller with autobet and there are some people sharing their strategy and got active member to chat. That is enough. But mostly dice site is never have this great things, may be they only can provide one or two things only, thats why its kind of boring  :(




Yes its true every site need some luck to play but at least there are people sharing their winning strategy for us to try, that is better than keep on by themselves

well yeah but it would be interesting to see how a website would work with 0 house edge, i believe people would still loose as they are really greedy and they play until they loose it all

Dice site ? ohh I don't play dice. I think it can be adjustable by the owner when you win and when you lose

If you play on provably fair dice sites, you can verify your bets to see if the site is scamming you.
If you play on non provably fair sites, not just dice but every games could be rigged.

sometimes i have the same feeling about dice gambling sites just like what "tennozer" said. it really feels like the game is against you sometimes, when you just keep losing whenever you expect that you should have won the bet.

but everybody says it is provabaly fair and you can check it, but i have always been too lazy to check the code and see how it even works.
have you ever checked the code and then checked the fairness with the code?

Yes all these sites are there to make money for them self so definitely all those sites are under site owners control. So it is no way safe to bet on these sites and loose money.

gambling is a fools game according to many its definetly -ev in dice as the bankroll allows operators to profit in the longterm but other games like sportsbetting, poker and pachinko might be for you ... :O

But if you think about it don't every other gambling service have the same ability to rig their bets? Dice is not exclusively susceptible to rigged bets, you can have tilted tables in every casino game.
That is why we have something like provably fair - method when you can check probability of each roll. Serious Casinos also have iTech certificate.

Gambling sites are created to make money for the owners, but they can win it with the house edge legitimately.
Though some sites ended up as a scam, most do not.

I agree with you. I think that really depends on which website you use to gamble; only choose the right ones! When a website can't proove that they and their games are legit, simply don't gamble over there. Being legit / fair is the first #1 rule for gambling sites / dice sites.

They are also created because there is a market for gambling and more specifically this type of gambling.  If people put their attention elsewhere none of the dice sites would exsist.  The guys running them in a legit fashion are just smart entrepreneurs.

Provably fair, Big bankroll and bet limit ,Fast auto roll ,Giveaways and Secure. My favourite dice sites would be Primedice and Just-dice

More faucet satoshi ... i really like it .......

You have to really understand the "kelly" system and how various sites' API is actually programmed.  It can still be provably fair but the odds can change based on bet size and to me that really isn't fair.  It's still fair in the sense that the house isn't cheating in the sense that it absolutely stops you from winning... but your odds aren't just off by the 1% house edge.  The kelly system and API would have to be fully understood and there aren't many who dig into those things.  They pretty much just go and make their bets and click on the hash comparisons and call it good.  But when you look at the statistics, you lose way more than just that 1% house edge so there's definitely something else going on besides the 1% house edge.

Gambling sites are created to give everyone a chance to win, at the least the legit ones. It's the human greed that makes people
loose in most cases. House edge isn't as great as you may think, but combined with greed it can make a killer combo.

I like to roll the dice from time to time, and the thing i expect from the dice site is to be provably fair, and to have a good community and support.
In the end, it's all a matter of luck then, so just be smart, know your limits, and dice sites can give you nice winnings.

I, like a Lot of people expects easy win,  this is.

Table of dice websites characteristics:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1APWo6ENbjFgl1ECw52vU5yOZewB-YJSM3LC0QxPetbc/edit#gid=0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1APWo6ENbjFgl1ECw52vU5yOZewB-YJSM3LC0QxPetbc/edit#gid=0)

nah, i will break that table with my stadistics xD, i dodnt know why but i the 95% of the times i play any game about that i never have lucky.

what i expect from dice sites? to have at least some days where i have lucky :) thats my reply hehe

One this i expect From all dice site is Giveaways like PrimeDice , they Jerk off the Giveaways and doesn't Regulate any condition on them as you are free to Withdraw Or Gamble .
And there are many sites which do Giveaway but do put some shitty conditions that you must wager certain amounts before you can withdraw the bonus.

as long as theres a dickbot in chat room, im happy

bet low and you will win, bet big and you will lose..thats a common scenario in dice sites..

Hi,
I bet only on sites with a low home edge.
I use fibbonaci for make some profit.
Don't bet all money on a bet.

You are being funny. No dice sites can actually give you more "luck". Just for the record that no one controls your "luck" though you can have a lucky seed or whatsoever but you cant really control your "luck". Pretty much an impossible thing to wish for unless a site decided to go into negative edge ( which is never going to happen ) but that doesnt mean you are turning into a lucky guy in an instance as well


Giveaways that a site can give is totally depends on their income. With that said, according to http://dicesites.com/. Primedice own 8,000+ BTC volume so profit is around 80 + BTC for them ( they merely have more than 10k BTC weekly so it is not a big deal though to spend few percentage of provide for more exposure ). Another site would be able to hold the same one as well depending on their volume as well as profit ( think of this of more of saying thankyou back to the community )

I expect to play for a little bit and lose all my coin