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Title: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: hybriz_ on May 30, 2011, 12:16:43 AM
OH HAI GUISE!

so, i've stumbled upon some "lame" vulnerabilities in mybitcoin.com that affect mainly normal users.

I've tried to contact the owners without success so basically this thread serves as a warning to all mybitcoin users that in a week's time i'll disclose the vulnerability details if they don't get fixed.

my advice is to have few coins in the mybitcoin wallet...they can easily be stolen by other users without you noticing...(well, you'll notice when the balance is 0).

Cheers,
hybriz_

(EDIT) PS: if you guys are in the mood for a donation... 1H3EUkytqu8Mdzbhd33CaTBTsQgJSo5spj :-)


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: AntiVigilante on May 30, 2011, 12:18:38 AM
A week is too short for lower traffic sites.

Have you tried #bitcoin-otc on freenode?

Otherwise, stop trolling :)


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: hybriz_ on May 30, 2011, 12:26:07 AM
it's been like 4 or 5 days now since I tried contacting them... on IRC, via message in their service.

apparently no one knows who are the owners and they are rumored to be missing.

just because of this warning, i bet many people will try and find the easy vulnerabilities... maybe by Wednesday i'll disclose them :-)

in the mean time, PROTIP: don't keep much money there unless you're willing to loose it.

Cheers,
hybriz_


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Anonymous on May 30, 2011, 12:29:27 AM
Thanks for telling us about it and giving us a chance to save our btc from mybitcoin.

 :)


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: AntiVigilante on May 30, 2011, 12:29:55 AM
it's been like 4 or 5 days now since I tried contacting them... on IRC, via message in their service.

apparently no one knows who are the owners and they are rumored to be missing.

just because of this warning, i bet many people will try and find the easy vulnerabilities... maybe by Wednesday i'll disclose them :-)

in the mean time, PROTIP: don't keep much money there unless you're willing to loose it.

Cheers,
hybriz_

It's not a high traffic site compared to mtgox. So good luck taking much out. Also it's Memorial Day weekend. People will be out til Monday night.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 30, 2011, 12:33:22 AM
i'll disclose the vulnerability details if they don't get fixed.

You mean the fact that the captcha always uses the same background, same font, same number of characters, same 3 colours on characters, same purple colour on the 2 brush strokes over the characters every time?


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: error on May 30, 2011, 01:31:15 AM
Whoever runs mybitcoin has been missing for far longer than four or five days.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 30, 2011, 01:40:41 AM
A service like that is needed: Are there any similar fully developed sites*?
*MT. Gox merchant API is supposed to be better in the new version coming soon, any others?


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: theymos on May 30, 2011, 02:56:22 AM
I'm not surprised. MyBitcoin is still accepting payments with only 1 confirmation, which would allow some of the larger pools to steal BTC right now.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: darbsllim on May 30, 2011, 04:20:49 AM
Is there another more secure web wallet that we can use?


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: AntiVigilante on May 30, 2011, 04:25:52 AM
Is there another more secure web wallet that we can use?

Mtgox or maybe instawallet for short term.

Confirmations are low in OTC as well. Perhaps it just needs to be updated.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: MoonShadow on May 30, 2011, 05:02:11 AM
System is now down for maintenance.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: darbsllim on May 30, 2011, 05:51:57 AM
System is now down for maintenance.

are you the mybitcoin dev creighto?


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: MoonShadow on May 30, 2011, 05:57:27 AM
System is now down for maintenance.

are you the mybitcoin dev creighto?

No.  I had tried to login, and this is the error that I received.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: MoonShadow on May 30, 2011, 05:59:01 AM
System is now down for maintenance.

are you the mybitcoin dev creighto?

No.  I had tried to login, and this is the error that I received.

IT's back up now, and the captcha is slightly different.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 30, 2011, 06:18:08 AM
IT's back up now, and the captcha is slightly different.

How is the captcha any different?

I just went and reloaded a few times and it's still the same as I described:

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always uses the same background, same font, same number of characters, same 3 colours on characters, same purple colour on the 2 brush strokes over the characters every time?

I'm not saying it wouldn't be a challenge, but in the state it's in at the moment, I'm sure I could crack it in a couple of weeks.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: MoonShadow on May 30, 2011, 06:25:21 AM
IT's back up now, and the captcha is slightly different.

How is the captcha any different?


It's case sensitive.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 30, 2011, 06:29:07 AM
IT's back up now, and the captcha is slightly different.

How is the captcha any different?


It's case sensitive.

Hahaha wow, but after 30 reloads, I didn't see any lower-case letters in the image, so I'll just assume any input needs to be upper-case.

Edit: Also, I was able to log in with eRzD even though the image showed ERZD.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Fiyasko on May 31, 2011, 02:49:33 PM
Why the heck are people holding ßtc funds in online accounts?
I just dont get it.....

like maybe if "my comp burned out so now im on my lappy and i didnt loose my wallet.dat HAR HAR"
But my wallets on many frequent backups so I unno


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 31, 2011, 02:54:26 PM
Why the heck are people holding ßtc funds in online accounts?
I just dont get it.....

like maybe if "my comp burned out so now im on my lappy and i didnt loose my wallet.dat HAR HAR"
But my wallets on many frequent backups so I unno

If I'm in a situation where I need to use an internet cafe, I'd rather have a few coins online than plug my wallet.dat into some public pc's usb port.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: mewantsbitcoins on May 31, 2011, 02:56:06 PM
Off topic, but I have to ask: Alex, do you live in Australia?  ;D


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 31, 2011, 03:00:27 PM
Off topic, but I have to ask: Alex, do you live in Australia?  ;D

Yes, land of the slow internet.

I suppose I look upside down to you?


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: mewantsbitcoins on May 31, 2011, 03:01:22 PM
I was wondering why your picture is upside down  ;)


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Drifter on May 31, 2011, 03:03:34 PM
Why the heck are people holding ßtc funds in online accounts?
I just dont get it.....

like maybe if "my comp burned out so now im on my lappy and i didnt loose my wallet.dat HAR HAR"
But my wallets on many frequent backups so I unno

Plenty of reasons. Access to my wallet wherever there is an internet connection. No needing to backup the wallet. In person transactions with my smartphone. Instant transactions from mybitcoin user to user, instead of waiting for confirmations, making this one of the best options for in-person trades. Email notifications of incoming payments. If necessary, secure access to my wallet (TOR, I2P) without needing to install bitcoin to my computer.

I wouldn't store very large amounts on the site, but for small transactions it's great to have an online wallet.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: MoonShadow on May 31, 2011, 04:20:15 PM
I use Mybitcoin.com because it has most of the pros of paypal, but if they were to try some of the things that paypal has done, the mass exodus of the userbase would punish them severely.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: datguywhowanders on June 04, 2011, 11:37:32 PM
So did we ever receive word about what these so called vulnerabilities were? Also, while I'm thinking about it, would anyone else be interested in an additional online wallet to compete with myBitcoin?


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: MoonShadow on June 04, 2011, 11:47:03 PM
would anyone else be interested in an additional online wallet to compete with myBitcoin?

Yes.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 05, 2011, 02:50:30 AM
Yes, interested


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: Maged on June 05, 2011, 05:59:46 AM
So did we ever receive word about what these so called vulnerabilities were?
It hasn't been the promised week, yet. Wait until tonight/tomorrow night (Sunday).


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: WilliamJohnson on June 05, 2011, 10:18:26 AM
Whoever runs mybitcoin has been missing for far longer than four or five days.
I sent them a message on May 24th, and got an answer on May 29th. So, they are not "missing". ;)

would anyone else be interested in an additional online wallet to compete with myBitcoin?
Yes, definitely.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: carlerha on June 05, 2011, 10:45:29 AM
would anyone else be interested in an additional online wallet to compete with myBitcoin?
Yes. One with (optional) fund insurance would be nice too.


Title: Re: mybitcoin security vulnerabilities
Post by: TheKoziTwo on June 05, 2011, 11:51:15 AM
Maybe he is talking about the XSS vulnerability on the payment page. If I recall correctly I was able to send code to it.