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Hello fellow bitcoiners!

I found this little link and thought I would share.

http://www.btcfpga.com/index.php?route=product/product&manufacturer_id=11&product_id=58

Let the speculation begin!

Best,
gigavps

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.msg1157524#msg1157524

So how many did you purchase? :D

None.

wow that must of been hard to find considering I am only running 5 dedicated Bitcointalk forum advertising slots which links to that same page!

How on earth did you find it???? :P

Don't tell me you got everything tied up in BFL preorders ;)

Hi Tom,

Thanks for you sarcasm.

As for your ad link, it goes to http://www.bitcoinasic.com/ and this page does not redirect to btcfpga.com

You're welcome for the technical help.

Best,
gigavps

yes it does, obviously you have been watching my 24 hour countdown and need to refresh your cache

the redirect has been working since about 2pm EST

for help refreshing your cache I would check youtube for an instructional video

btw: your welcome for my technical help

I'm not sure it's web development best practice to make your users clear their cache but thanks for the assistance.

Now back to the topic at hand. It's seems that Tom has made a claim that they have an actual prototype.


Tom, please provide a video of the prototype working on a pool.

Thanks,
gigavps

Ditto, I'll buy 3 right now  ;)

+1

its a ridiculous request to ask someone to reveal a prototype. I will not do it. If you have a problem with it do not buy from me.

James:

Why not tell them the real reason your doing this? You hate me and I hate you. Be honest about it man,

You and I have never gotten along and this is the reason you are trying to cause a problem for me.

Did you ask AMD for a prototype of their upcoming 8000 series cards? I didn't think so.

I hope they arent gonna be that crappy white color like your fpgas lol

we can have the pcb boards silk screened to be any color pretty much have not gotten that far yet to pick out a color
i just hate that standard green pcb look

The white was actually my idea, lol is it really that ugly?

tbh ya.. my opinion of course  ;D

if you got one rockin good job.. will def consider ordering! cant wait to see some more info on em.

 Hi Tom,

I certainly do not hate you. I'm sorry that you have room in your heart to hate me.

So, since you are unwilling to back up your claims with proof, you statements cannot be taken seriously.

Peace & Love,
gigavps

:D Yeah it's that ugly  ;D

A purple would be really cool. Or even blue.

BTC. We know Drama.

bitcoindrama.com

/fakewebsite

white might be ugly, but its not uglier than cards hanging out of a pc...

Purple would be awesome! Purple power!!

I spend a lot of time on these forums, and only happened across this because I check in on your btcfpga thread every few days.

"5 dedicated Bitcointalk forum advertising slots"  I don't know what that is - but if it's real - it's effect seems underwhelming!

its those little ads you see in the middle of threads. I am glad your underwhelmed because I am already overwhelmed :P

ABP. I have no idea what those even look like.


Funny, it just redirects me to bitcointalk.org...  :D

They definitely work, I clicked on one and found out about it that way.

Good luck to Tom, I will be rooting for you!

Competition is good for everyone anyway, the network included.

I like the white.

It gives the feeling they are made of paper when you look at pictures, no ofense.. :)

I wish you asked Trendon for a video before letting him rip off the whole community. Karma is a bitch.

I never was a fan of the white. It gave me a impression that there was a low budget ad-hoc process behind it. Maybe, the psychological effect is that the white reminds me of cardboard, stryrofoam and/or paper. But I like the bold idea of trying a different color. Try orange, purple or dark blue if you want to be bold - should be interesting. Anyway, that's my two satoshis.

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Black looks cool. It's the new "high tech" color seen in all the best motherboards and GPUs.

Black.  Or fire engine red.
They will hash .01% faster in red.

( I will buy in any color including white )

Black with those flames from the BAMT's splash screen with a slogan in white:

Hashing like Hell! 


(No, i didnt smoke anything ;D)

Only if it has a Type S sticker on it.

Black would be awesome. 8)

ooh.. now I see one. Amazing what my eyes(brain?) will gloss over.
Glad it's working for you.

I thought the white was awesome. Matches my shelving!

Created:   2012/09/04 06:17:45 GMT
Order Number:   298
Order Amount:   1099.99 USD = 107.1426 BTC
Bitcoins Paid:   107.1500 BTC


Created:   2012/09/04 08:21:53 GMT
Order Number:   301
Order Amount:   1099.99 USD = 106.7993 BTC
Bitcoins Paid:   106.8000 BTC

:) Just helping out.

How about we compromise:

http://www.stormgrounds.com/media/iphone/iphone-Black-Viper-in-Desert.jpg

I did the math:

BTCFPGA bASIC $1069.99 ÷ 27GH = $39.63/GH
1 year warranty
projected to ship in November/December of 2012

BFL Single 'SC' $1299.00 ÷ 40GH = $32.48/GH
6 month warranty
projected to ship in October of 2012

but yes, competition is good.

Aren't these numbers estimates though? I think it may be a little too early to decide.

The GH/s numbers are estimates, but the prices are already set.

Still no word on MHs/J. This could get interesting especially for people with expensive electricity... Even if one has higher cost per MHs it might be cheaper in the long run due to using less power.

It'll definitely be interesting to see finalized specs for both.

The white is horrible, reminde me of 1970's prototyping boards!

I vote red!

p.s. Ordered and paid for 2. Excited!

Is transparent possible? ;)

crimson is good too :)

well, my admittedly limited understanding of PCB functionality being what it is, i don't see why not. i mean, the material the substrate is made of doesn't matter at long as it's nonconducting, right? sure, they're usually... what, some sort of fiberglass based board? but couldn't a PCB just as easily be plastic or glass, technically speaking, anyway?

*ahem* sorry. i got off on a bit of a tangent there...

People have used glass and semitransparent flexible materials such as kapton, however I think economically glass is more expensive and kapton doesn't have high heat/chemical resistance.

well, i never said it would be ideal, just possible. :D

Therefore, $s/Ghash are estimates. In fact "estimate" implies a guess based in some facts, while this is based simply on the claims of the merchants.
From what we've seen in the past, my estimate is that BFL claims are likely overblown. I don't know enough about cablepair's history, so I can't make estimates there.

Looking good cablepair  ;D

Price is spot on with BFL,or close enough for me & the warranty is great  ;)

Now will he be offering the buyback (trade in) like BFL does??? He was talking about it,If so,then a really great deal for his old customer base too  8)

Their first product's specs were overblown (1GH/s@20Watts ?), but the estimates for their 2nd product were pretty damn accurate (25GH/s@1.2KWatt vs. 25.2GH/s@1.25KW).

Any news about largecoin ASIC project?

Nope, but I did just stumble across this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104680.0 :D

Is this out of the blue? I don't recall hearing anything about deepbit asics.

Hasn't been announced in English yet shh :P

But seriously, am I the only one that attempts to read the other-languaged forum?

i just tried via google translate. ...yea... i'm gonna have to wait for an english announcement.

BFL can more easily account for their trade-in value since it apparently has the higher perforamnce Stratix III chips. And maybe they will finally use those to develop the other products that they seem to imply existing, but yet don't seem to exist going by the dead links on their website:

e.g.  http://www.butterflylabs.com/drivers/

1.Computational research
2.Medical imaging
3.Packet integrity verification
4.Generic fingerprinting engine

If they don't exist, they should remove those link, imo. It feels like an attempt to create a better impression of the company than actual accomplishments.

Anyway, BFL Singles doubled in price from FPGA to ASIC. This bASIC 27GH product will be the same price as the older FPGA product. But still the price is higher than BFL pound for pound.

||bit

I'm wondering if I should hold on to 1 BFL Single incase they develop something interesting to do with it later on.

Coffee warmer at 80W? :P

Bonds are traded via icbit.se at ~$300 per Gh/s as "DB.RCLMR". The price is justified by the "absence of competition" (in real life).

EDIT:
A hint in English:
 
EDIT2: my original claim of ~$300 per Gh/s was wrong, and I apologize. It was based on some of the comments in the referenced thread, not on what Tycho officially stated or restated.

Your numbers are a bit off.
It's closer to ~$35 per GH/s for the biggest device. The smallest one is more expensive, but still very far from ~$300 per Gh/s.

Reservation is by purchasing special "securities" on the trading floor https://icbit.seAfter the announcement of the start of serial production, four bond could be exchanged for one basic unit-Reclaimer One.For other models, respectively, more bonds.

(price valid when you purchase through predzakaze bonds)These options have not been checked on finished products, but performance is not guaranteed base product below.

Bonds are sold at our trading site https://icbit.se in the Exchange, the name of the tool-DB.RCLMRTo purchase bonds, you must enter bitkojny directly or buy them on the spot for dollars or rubles. US dollars are accepted through vouchers VouchX exchanger AurumXchange, and rub-through QIWI. eggs automatically crediting.Pool accounts transactions are accepted without waiting for evidence of DeepBit.

I used this   http://www.bing.com/translator/

Uh,Tycho is Russian  ???

This part is almost completely opposite.
It says "guaranteed not to be below published perfomance for base product".

So...are you going to be selling these after you mine with them.Thats the drift I'm getting after reading that thread.Because it sounds like your designing them for data center installs.

Or,buy bonds=buying product & receive when ready for shipping  ???

No, I'm not going to mine on them (at least not in any other sense than a normal user).
Bonds were created for collecting pre-payments only and they will be exchanged for products.

Very interesting,so they may be ready by feb of 2013.I'm looking forward to more info  8)

Thanks Tycho  ;D

You seem very fluent in Russian,are you from there  ???

I apologize for misinformation. I got carried away with some of the posts in the referenced thread and did not check Tycho's post carefully. Also, my Russian sucks.


Anyhow, glad to see these efforts are under way. Best of luck to all involved!

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These are contradictory by a magnitude. Tycho, you say 35 USD per GH/s on this thread and 32 BTC per GH/s on the russian thread.

That 1 GH/s value was quoted from some older conversation. I said "$320 per GH/s seems reasonable when no BFL products are available".

Actual prices and performance figures are stated in the first message, and it's from $2800 for 80 GH/s (most effective) down to $320 for 4 GH/s (least effective).

Are there power dissipation estimations for any of the ASIC products available ?

Not yet, I'm afraid to post simulation results as they may be wrong.
AFAIK, our competitors didn't published their expectations too. But at least we know that it will be better than 45 nm FPGAs :)

English announcement is coming here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108375.0

BFL has changed their delivery date to late October/early November, FYI:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97269.msg1150738#msg1150738

Actually Bitfountain did publish their expectations: