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Title: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 05:58:53 AM
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An anonymous individual or group is alleging that they have gained "all available 1040 tax forms" of GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney by accessing computers in the Franklin office of the professional services firm PricewaterhouseCoopers.

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"All major news media outlets are going to be sent an encrypted copy of the most recent tax years that your company had on file since you did not have them all in a convenient electronic form. The years before 2010 will be of great interest to many. If the parties interested do not want the encrypted key released to the public to unlock these documents on September 28 of this year then payment will be necessary.

The deal is quite simple. Convert $1,000,000 USD to Bitcoins (Google if if you need a lesson on what Bitcoin is) using the various markets available out in the world for buying. Transfer the Bitcoins gathered to the Bitcoin address listed below. It does not matter if small amounts or one large amount is transferred, as long as the final value of the Bitcoins is equal to $1,000,000 USD at the time when it is finished. The keys to unlock the data will be purged and what ever is inside the documents will remain a secret forever.

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/anonymous-group-allegedly-hacked-romney-tax-records-franklin-firm

While the claim of possessing Romney's tax records may well be bullshit, I'm guessing that any extortion threat towards a Presidential candidate is going to attract serious investigation - including an attempt to identify the owner of the Bitcoin address in question.

This could get interesting.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: LightRider on September 05, 2012, 06:06:41 AM
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An anonymous individual or group is alleging that they have gained "all available 1040 tax forms" of GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney by accessing computers in the Franklin office of the professional services firm PricewaterhouseCoopers.

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"All major news media outlets are going to be sent an encrypted copy of the most recent tax years that your company had on file since you did not have them all in a convenient electronic form. The years before 2010 will be of great interest to many. If the parties interested do not want the encrypted key released to the public to unlock these documents on September 28 of this year then payment will be necessary.

The deal is quite simple. Convert $1,000,000 USD to Bitcoins (Google if if you need a lesson on what Bitcoin is) using the various markets available out in the world for buying. Transfer the Bitcoins gathered to the Bitcoin address listed below. It does not matter if small amounts or one large amount is transferred, as long as the final value of the Bitcoins is equal to $1,000,000 USD at the time when it is finished. The keys to unlock the data will be purged and what ever is inside the documents will remain a secret forever.

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/anonymous-group-allegedly-hacked-romney-tax-records-franklin-firm

While the claim of possessing Romney's tax records may well be bullshit, I'm guessing that any extortion threat towards a Presidential candidate is going to attract serious investigation - including an attempt to identify the owner of the Bitcoin address in question.

This could get interesting.

The September surprise! Gavin has some 'splaining to do.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: RandomQ on September 05, 2012, 06:06:58 AM
If this person was really serious about getting paid he would ask for 50 or 100K, But they would only pay if he released a teaser like page 65-100 on year 2008 to prove that he has something of value.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: squid on September 05, 2012, 06:11:52 AM
I find it odd that this is the only paper to report this..


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: LightRider on September 05, 2012, 06:16:46 AM
Hasn't there already been a tax return hoax already? Too bad they didn't just give the info to wikileaks without the ransom. This is the next evolution of journalism if this works.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 06:21:48 AM
Hasn't there already been a tax return hoax already? Too bad they didn't just give the info to wikileaks without the ransom. This is the next evolution of journalism if this works.

I'm more interested in the extent to which there'll be an attempt to locate the owner of the Bitcoin addresses.  Y'all seem to take threats towards your presidential candidates pretty seriously over there and investigate everything which could be remotely construed as a threat.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 06:26:29 AM
I find it odd that this is the only paper to report this..

I'm convinced that papers no longer go looking for stories but wait for people to send them leads to stuff found online (and then reprint it without any fact checking whatever was in the first report).

I've seen stories go national after first appearing on a messageboard and then getting picked up by local media, but how much this gets picked up will depend on how many people bring the pastebin to the attention of larger media outlets.

I assume those Bitcoin addresses have never been used for previous transactions (or that they belong to someone the hoaxer really hates).


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 05, 2012, 06:26:53 AM
Im sure Romney can sell one of his 20 houses to pay it.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: LightRider on September 05, 2012, 06:29:46 AM
Hasn't there already been a tax return hoax already? Too bad they didn't just give the info to wikileaks without the ransom. This is the next evolution of journalism if this works.

I'm more interested in the extent to which there'll be an attempt to locate the owner of the Bitcoin addresses.  Y'all seem to take threats towards your presidential candidates pretty seriously over there and investigate everything which could be remotely construed as a threat.

This isn't a threat though. This is involuntary conformation to established campaign disclosure precedent.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Severian on September 05, 2012, 06:32:27 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if this wasn't a Federal operation designed to target bitcoin just a little more as an excuse to put it under the jurisdiction of some Federal police force.

"We must use all available resources to defend against these threats against our fine upstanding citizens such as Mitt Romney by these dangerous hacker tools..." would be the general tone of the already pre-written communique sitting in some bureaucrats desk at Treasury, FBI or DHS.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: BkkCoins on September 05, 2012, 06:42:04 AM
I wonder if this is real too. But it's pretty smart. I doubt PW would pay anything here but the extortionist may just be hoping the rest of the public will contribute to getting info released. Either way he gets funds going into either address. Is this the first instance of mass public extortion? I mean telling the world they can see the tax records only if in total they pay out. I guess we'll see if this gets picked up by the mainstream media or if word has been put out to quash it, or if it turns out to be baloney.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: dissipate on September 05, 2012, 06:46:23 AM
If this person was really serious about getting paid he would ask for 50 or 100K, But they would only pay if he released a teaser like page 65-100 on year 2008 to prove that he has something of value.

They could have sent the private key to decrypt the files to the Romney campaign to prove that they have the tax returns.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 06:49:03 AM
I wonder if this is real too. But it's pretty smart. I doubt PW would pay anything here but the extortionist may just be hoping the rest of the public will contribute to getting info released. Either way he gets funds going into either address. Is this the first instance of mass public extortion? I mean telling the world they can see the tax records only if in total they pay out. I guess we'll see if this gets picked up by the mainstream media or if word has been put out to quash it, or if it turns out to be baloney.

Even the threat of extortion would probably be illegal wouldn't it, whether the person posting the message possesses the information referred to or not?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: dissipate on September 05, 2012, 06:49:51 AM
I wonder if this is real too. But it's pretty smart. I doubt PW would pay anything here but the extortionist may just be hoping the rest of the public will contribute to getting info released. Either way he gets funds going into either address. Is this the first instance of mass public extortion? I mean telling the world they can see the tax records only if in total they pay out. I guess we'll see if this gets picked up by the mainstream media or if word has been put out to quash it, or if it turns out to be baloney.

It could just be a ploy to get more attention for Bitcoin. The problem is that if Bitcoin is used for extortions like this, it would be a great excuse for the U.S. government to put pressure to shut down the Bitcoin exchanges and any business that accepts or uses Bitcoin. :(


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 05, 2012, 06:53:13 AM
I wonder if this is real too. But it's pretty smart. I doubt PW would pay anything here but the extortionist may just be hoping the rest of the public will contribute to getting info released. Either way he gets funds going into either address. Is this the first instance of mass public extortion? I mean telling the world they can see the tax records only if in total they pay out. I guess we'll see if this gets picked up by the mainstream media or if word has been put out to quash it, or if it turns out to be baloney.

It could just be a ploy to get more attention for Bitcoin. The problem is that if Bitcoin is used for extortions like this, it would be a great excuse for the U.S. government to put pressure to shut down the Bitcoin exchanges and any business that accepts or uses Bitcoin. :(

Think how it looks if they throw all their resources at it and still cant get it shut down.   ;D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Severian on September 05, 2012, 06:56:25 AM
Think how it looks if they throw all their resources at it and still cant get it shut down

They can't even shutdown bit torrent. Bitcoin is a much harder fight.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: dissipate on September 05, 2012, 06:58:25 AM

Think how it looks if they throw all their resources at it and still cant get it shut down.   ;D

Bitcoin itself won't get shut down, but the above ground markets that exchange or deal in Bitcoin could certainly be disrupted. The markets for Bitcoin could quickly become black markets.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: squid on September 05, 2012, 07:07:43 AM

Think how it looks if they throw all their resources at it and still cant get it shut down.   ;D

Bitcoin itself won't get shut down, but the above ground markets that exchange or deal in Bitcoin could certainly be disrupted. The markets for Bitcoin could quickly become black markets.

That argument could be made when any sort of legal tender so I doubt that could be used as an argument to shut down above ground markets/traders.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: EhVedadoOAnonimato on September 05, 2012, 07:09:16 AM
Even assuming this is true... are they really expecting any payment? I mean, AFAIK, blackmail contracts are illegal and thus unenforceable (well, at least by conventional means). Even if Romney pays, what's to prevent the hacker from releasing the information nevertheless? "Alternative enforcement" is not really an option to Romney now that it got so public.

Plus, as they've disclosed the address publicly, the act of paying it would also be public. Everybody would know that Romney (or somebody trying to protect him) payed the blackmailer. I don't think that would be good for a politician.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 07:10:51 AM
It could just be a ploy to get more attention for Bitcoin.

I consider this the most likely scenario.  It's clear that whoever posted the pastebin doesn't care about whether the information they supposedly went to great trouble to obtain is released or not (why even explain how you supposedly obtained the information, if that's the case), but there's a chance that a story about Romney being "blackmailed" over his tax records will get mainstream media attention - something  Bitcoin hasn't managed to achieve yet (the technology sections of newspapers don't really count).  If you wanted Bitcoin to get mentioned in the 6pm news bulletin of major TV networks or the political section of major newspapers, this might be one way to make that happen - for better or worse.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 05, 2012, 07:16:01 AM
As the story is already out, there is not point in paying the thieves. The fact that incriminating tax returns exist, paying the ransom would be as devastating politically, as having them published. The thieves know that and therefore the fact that they will never get paid. Further influencing politics through threats is an act of terrorism

so take it for what it is; a hoax some crazy kind of political attack designed to bring a crab load of hell to the Bitcoin community (if this is market manipulation it's really stupid). Someone please publish the the thieves payment address and be ready to track it when it goes on-line. further make some press statements to underline the seriousness of the situation. Write an open letter to the FBI offering cooperation in in tracking them and giving them technical support, Write befriended congressmen This is serious!!


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: IveBeenBit on September 05, 2012, 07:17:56 AM
Think how it looks if they throw all their resources at it and still cant get it shut down

They can't even shutdown bit torrent. Bitcoin is a much harder fight.

I wouldn't get so overconfident. They control the banking system. If they shut off funds transfers to Mt. Gox, which would be trivially easy to do, your bitcoin holdings will become worthless overnight.



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Severian on September 05, 2012, 07:25:31 AM

I wouldn't get so overconfident. They control the banking system. If they shut off funds transfers to Mt. Gox, which would be trivially easy to do, your bitcoin holdings will become worthless overnight.

There are exchanges in other parts of the world that would pick up the slack, using alternative means of funding. It would drive up the cost of acquiring and trading btc, which would probably drive up the value.

Governments banning commodities in demand have a history of increasing value.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: IveBeenBit on September 05, 2012, 07:26:24 AM
Someone please publish the the thieves payment address and be ready to track it when it goes on-line.

They already published the addresses in their announcement (http://pastebin.com/1j1yzQ9S).

I thought of sending a couple bitcents just to see if they get picked up, but I have no interest in the Secret Service tracking me down to "just ask me a couple questions."


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: IveBeenBit on September 05, 2012, 07:32:11 AM

I wouldn't get so overconfident. They control the banking system. If they shut off funds transfers to Mt. Gox, which would be trivially easy to do, your bitcoin holdings will become worthless overnight.

There are exchanges in other parts of the world that would pick up the slack, using alternative means of funding. It would drive up the cost of acquiring and trading btc, which would probably drive up the value.

Governments banning commodities in demand have a history of increasing value.

80% of BTC exchanges are for USD. Source (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/).

Bitcoin is still in its infancy. It would not survive a shutdown of USD-facing exchanges. It's too vulnerable.

How many Americans still play online poker? It can be done using VPNs, a foreign bank account and foreign mailing address, but nobody bothers because of the hassle.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: dissipate on September 05, 2012, 07:37:23 AM

80% of BTC exchanges are for USD. Source (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/).

Bitcoin is still in its infancy. It would not survive a shutdown of USD-facing exchanges. It's too vulnerable.

How many Americans still play online poker? It can be done using VPNs, a foreign bank account and foreign mailing address, but nobody bothers because of the hassle.

Bitcoin could certainly survive a shutdown of USD facing exchanges. It can always be exchanged over the counter. Shutting down the USD based exchanges would certainly cause chaos in the pricing mechanism, but where there is chaos there is opportunity for clandestine arbitrage. Basically, pockets of price differences for BTC would create opportunities for arbitrage, which would once again provide a price mechanism. The Bitcoin economy can be damaged (even severely damaged), but it's not going away.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Severian on September 05, 2012, 07:38:22 AM
Bitcoin is still in its infancy. It would not survive a shutdown of USD-facing exchanges. It's too vulnerable.

Many thought bitcoin wouldn't survive when it crashed last year. The value may drop as a result of your scenario, but it wouldn't be enough to kill the protocol. It has too much utility.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: dissipate on September 05, 2012, 07:41:07 AM
Someone sent .01 BTC to the address to stop the release! http://blockchain.info/tx/f94763d9ab91535a4d2cd2d241b3a5ab09132dd34839218ec858c4729002eb21/f94763d9ab91535a4d2cd2d241b3a5ab09132dd34839218ec858c4729002eb21

Relayed by ip   46.4.121.100 (whois)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: BkkCoins on September 05, 2012, 07:51:11 AM
Hmm. Can't seem to get blockchain.info at the moment. Is it overloaded by too many people checking... and a new term was born... hashdotted (instead of slashdotted).


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
Someone sent .01 BTC to the address to stop the release! http://blockchain.info/tx/f94763d9ab91535a4d2cd2d241b3a5ab09132dd34839218ec858c4729002eb21/f94763d9ab91535a4d2cd2d241b3a5ab09132dd34839218ec858c4729002eb21

Relayed by ip   46.4.121.100 (whois)

Could take quite a while to reach $ 1 million at this rate.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sunnankar on September 05, 2012, 08:06:11 AM
Bitcoin is still in its infancy. It would not survive a shutdown of USD-facing exchanges. It's too vulnerable.

Many thought bitcoin wouldn't survive when it crashed last year. The value may drop as a result of your scenario, but it wouldn't be enough to kill the protocol. It has too much utility.

The Bitcoin economy can be damaged (even severely damaged), but it's not going away.

Exactly. It is pretty fascinating to see the resilience of the censorship resistant Bitcoin economy.

If bitcoins are the blood (like USD, Euros, etc.) and Bitcoin the protocol is the veins (like banks, credit cards, etc.) then the Bitcoin economy is like a super-charged regenerating muscle system.

The Bitcoin economy has taken major damage many times (MyBitcoin, MtGox hack, Bitcoinica, Pirate, etc.) but then repairs itself and grows larger and stronger in the process.

However, unlike physical muscles in traditional organisms it seems that as the Bitcoin economy grows larger and stronger the recuperation period to recover from damage (http://youtu.be/AMvDySuhC0U?t=1m7s) actually decreases instead of increases.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 05, 2012, 08:39:42 AM
Taking this a little further: The thieve's carefullness about explaining the 1M USD denomination on the 25'th shows that they anticipate the price plummeting as a consequence. So maybe it is us who are being extorted? Are they hoping for a community donation of 1.000.000 USD on the 25'th to take the heat off Bitcoin?

If that is the case, the stupidest thing to do would be to make such a fund; dropping prices could make this very expensive in bitcoins on the 25'th. A better thing to do, if people are compelled to part with some money to put this to rest and Romney in office, would be to fund a reward for revealing their identity. You guys found Pirate in 72 hours. How hard can this be?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ThomasV on September 05, 2012, 10:44:08 AM
If this person was really serious about getting paid he would ask for 50 or 100K, But they would only pay if he released a teaser like page 65-100 on year 2008 to prove that he has something of value.

how about a screenshot of the http://romneygirl.org/ video at 1'18 ? that would be a proof!


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: istar on September 05, 2012, 11:00:48 AM
Most likley scenario this is a planted manufactured media anti Bitcoin campaign.

How come?

There are plenty of reasons to try and hurry to get rid of a world currency that does not go down in value
and is out of their control so they cant print money.

A currency that does not spy on people and force people to give their money to banks and dont spy on them-
Before people get to understand how good it is.



If there really are hackers having the information.
There is not a single reason for them to go in public with having the information.
If they wanted money.

Not a single one.
They simply would not go to a newspaper, they would go to
where the money is.


If hackers wanted to get payed in Bitcoin.
They would not go public to a newspaper with that info.

Since it would mean the value of Bitcoin could be negatively affected.

If real hackers wanted to get payed.
They would not publish the adress in public in a newspaper.

Because now he cant pay.
Since its public it would be like showing everyone he is guilty.

Thus it becomes impossible to pay.


The fact that its in a newspaper.
It specifically mentions Bitcoins as the payment method.
The adress is published so everyone can look at it.

And even tells everyone what it is they should look at.
Its a joke.

The first rule of a true extortion, to NOT reveal the info you want to get payed for.

But there are plenty of nice reasons to create such a fake campaign.

1. Fool Obama team to send Bitcoins to the adress. WIN

Get journalist a reason to show everyone that he did pay his taxes.
Make Mitt Romney appear as a hero. Who have nothing to hide. WIN

Make Bitcoin look like a bad payment system. WIN.
Buy cheap Bitcoin and get it regulated. Value goes up. Tripple WIN.

Or get a public consensus created a reason to crack down on Bitcoin. Tripple WIN.

So no obviously absolutly no reason to go to a small newspaper if this was real.
Plenty of reason to go to a small newspaper and "plant the made up story" if this was fake.


Another reason if its a fake.

2. Mitt Romney really is guilty. Publish it as something "hackers" found out. Mitt Romney is stuck. He cant pay so the documents will be released. Win. Make Bitcoin look like a bad payment system Win.
Buy cheap Bitcoin and get it regulated. Value goes up. Tripple win.

Or a created a reason to crack down on Bitcoin. Tripple WIN.


Its simply a campaign to connect Bitcoin with something bad.
The selected the tax info papers, because noone would get harmed and they ofcourse know that he had nothing to hide.

They made the misstake to publish the Bitcoin adress, so people would think it was something real.
Oh look, it even has a adress, it must be real by those hackers.


What really gives it away is that.
They didnt think of the fact that if it was real.
The adress would never hade been published and a newspaper never contacted.
Since it means he absolutly can not pay :D


Ofcourse they are not going to buy a lot of Bitcoins and send to a adress.
They just cant do that.

In short it screams a manufactured media campaign written all over it.


They want people to think they what they need is money that spy on them.
Their family, friends, mothers and fathers, politicians, judges etc.

Your Credit Card Is Spying on You
http://www.newser.com/story/85372/your-credit-card-is-spying-on-you.html













Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Carlton Banks on September 05, 2012, 11:56:08 AM
perhaps this is pirate's endgame?  ;D Sounds like potential market turmoil in the making, in a number of scenarios, whether pirating or not


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 05, 2012, 11:56:25 AM
http://blockchain.info/address/1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8
Activity on the address.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HorseRider on September 05, 2012, 12:03:11 PM
Romney cannot pay this. There will be easily another extortion again.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Polvos on September 05, 2012, 12:07:41 PM
If I were a pissed admin/mod I won't doubt in injecting the published address in the Pirate signspace as a typical donation address. Just for the lulz.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: squid on September 05, 2012, 12:09:10 PM
http://blockchain.info/address/1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8
Activity on the address.

probably trying to pass a message but looks like gibberish. not sure if because more than 1 person is spamming small amounts (thus ruining any meaning) or simply by inability to transcode binary


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: BkkCoins on September 05, 2012, 12:12:58 PM
http://blockchain.info/address/1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8
Activity on the address.
Did anyone decode the message yet? See binary amounts again...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Snapman on September 05, 2012, 12:16:44 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if this wasn't a Federal operation designed to target bitcoin just a little more as an excuse to put it under the jurisdiction of some Federal police force.

"We must use all available resources to defend against these threats against our fine upstanding citizens such as Mitt Romney by these dangerous hacker tools..." would be the general tone of the already pre-written communique sitting in some bureaucrats desk at Treasury, FBI or DHS.

Thats exactly what it is. Sad its come down to a 1040 hoax with these guys.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HostFat on September 05, 2012, 12:19:55 PM
I used this service: http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

This is the result:
https://i.imgur.com/5k6Rf.png

http://zxing.org/w/decode?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5k6Rf.png&full=true
This is the result:
0110100001110100011101000111000000111010001011110010111101101001001011100110100 1011011010110011101110101011100100010111001100011011011110110110100101111011010 01

It mean: https://i.imgur.com/i
This is nothing :)

He is probably someone that is trying to make something funny but he's failing.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: cbeast on September 05, 2012, 12:32:59 PM
I expect now that a Romney supporting vigilante will put a $10M bitcoin ransom on the blackmailer's head. Problem solved QED.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: eldentyrell on September 05, 2012, 12:37:44 PM
I find it odd that this is the only paper to report this..

Yep.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: eldentyrell on September 05, 2012, 12:39:05 PM
This is involuntary conformation to established campaign disclosure precedent.

I didn't rob the bank, I just made an unauthorized withdrawal!


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: BkkCoins on September 05, 2012, 12:45:28 PM
I used this service: http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

This is the result:
https://i.imgur.com/5k6Rf.png

http://zxing.org/w/decode?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5k6Rf.png&full=true
This is the result:
0110100001110100011101000111000000111010001011110010111101101001001011100110100 1011011010110011101110101011100100010111001100011011011110110110100101111011010 01

It mean: https://i.imgur.com/i
This is nothing :)

He is probably someone that is trying to make something funny but he's failing.

I decoded it and got something similar to: i.imgur.com/5k37g (I say similar because some chars were messed up and I replaced them with probable ones.) But the 5k37g was ok and this one does point to an image of some asian girl. I treated each trx as a byte and padded on left with zeros.



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: cbeast on September 05, 2012, 12:52:17 PM
I decoded it and got something similar to: i.imgur.com/5k37g (I say similar because some chars were messed up and I replaced them with probable ones.) But the 5k37g was ok and this one does point to an image of some asian girl. I treated each trx as a byte and padded on left with zeros.
This girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4&feature=relmfu)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: BkkCoins on September 05, 2012, 01:00:29 PM
I decoded it and got something similar to: i.imgur.com/5k37g (I say similar because some chars were messed up and I replaced them with probable ones.) But the 5k37g was ok and this one does point to an image of some asian girl. I treated each trx as a byte and padded on left with zeros.
This girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4&feature=relmfu)
Oh, that's hilarious but I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
Well at least between this and the bitfloor hack we're getting some entertainment tonight.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: squid on September 05, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
I decoded it and got something similar to: i.imgur.com/5k37g (I say similar because some chars were messed up and I replaced them with probable ones.) But the 5k37g was ok and this one does point to an image of some asian girl. I treated each trx as a byte and padded on left with zeros.
This girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4&feature=relmfu)
Oh, that's hilarious but I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
Well at least between this and the bitfloor hack we're getting some entertainment tonight.

You forgot to put hack in quotes~


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: axus on September 05, 2012, 01:20:54 PM
Obviously someone is hoping that there's something blackmail worthy in the tax returns, and putting out the blackmail message for the 1% chance at a million dollars.  It costs them nothing to try.

Making a big deal about this would be great for the Romney campaign.  They refuse to pay, which sways public sentiment to not releasing tax returns, and no tax returns gets released because it's a bluff.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Mushroomized on September 05, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
I have important information regarding Ron Pauls favorite icecream flavor, please send 1,000 bitcoins to this address
1LbkeXvcyi622UymtVmiieZF7XLNzFiMYy
or I will release the embarrassing icecream flavor choice to the public!


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: barbarousrelic on September 05, 2012, 01:46:39 PM
If this was real, they would have provided some kind of proof they possess these documents. Perhaps the information from a non-incriminating line, which would only be known by Romney or someone who has the documents. Kidnappers always send a photo of the kidnapped person holding today's newspaper to prove they have the person and they're alive.

Since no such evidence was shown, it is very probably a hoax.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 05, 2012, 03:10:43 PM
Drudge is now linking this http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/anonymous-group-allegedly-hacked-romney-tax-records-franklin-firm


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Severian on September 05, 2012, 03:15:40 PM
Drudge is now linking this

Further evidence that this whole thing is a psyop.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: jimbobway on September 05, 2012, 03:29:41 PM
Story gone from drudge for now.  Reaches the tabloids

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2012/09/mitt-romney-tax-returns-allegedly-hacked-up-for-bids/


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 05, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
How many Americans still play online poker? It can be done using VPNs, a foreign bank account and foreign mailing address, but nobody bothers because of the hassle.
http://vector.cobalt-sky.com/pokerplayers/displaytables.aspx?tableid=0004&height=903&reportid=7&clear=true

according to this site any hows. There are many others. But since the US banks first starting to decline online poke deposits the US players have reamerged in fairly large numbers.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of the numbers before and after the banking changes.   




Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 05, 2012, 04:04:33 PM
If this was real, they would have provided some kind of proof they possess these documents. Perhaps the information from a non-incriminating line, which would only be known by Romney or someone who has the documents. Kidnappers always send a photo of the kidnapped person holding today's newspaper to prove they have the person and they're alive.

Since no such evidence was shown, it is very probably a hoax.

Did you read the article? It lists a very specific location from where the tax returns were taken. I would imagine if the tax returns were actually in that location, they might have them. They also mention a scanned signature image.

could just mean they knew where the firms office was and not much else. Also, unless they show the scan AND the scan contains the signature and part of the form showing what year and what document it is, i.e., 1040 then it could just be a copy of his signature from any where..


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 05, 2012, 04:08:54 PM
Well, I didn't say it was good proof! Perhaps they feel what they have shown is enough?

Not sure what they might be thinking on it. Mainly because I have not seen it where I could make a semi-informed opinion on their mindset.  Have you by chnace seen this sig scan?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: jimbobway on September 05, 2012, 04:16:00 PM
This seems like a hoax.  Time to move on.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: CoinDiver on September 05, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
This seems like a hoax.  Time to move on.

"Reference to avoid Fakes that only you will have.
1.all these considerations did not deter me from the path of duty
2.he moment I understood the will of my Heavenly Father"

I'm guessing this was included to prove to PwC that the theft was legit. I would imagine the lawsuit for allowing the data to be stolen will cost them far more than than $1M.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: evoorhees on September 05, 2012, 04:52:04 PM
This seems like a hoax.  Time to move on.

"Reference to avoid Fakes that only you will have.
1.all these considerations did not deter me from the path of duty
2.he moment I understood the will of my Heavenly Father"

I'm guessing this was included to prove to PwC that the theft was legit. I would imagine the lawsuit for allowing the data to be stolen will cost them far more than than $1M.

What does that mean... that was included somewhere?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Piper67 on September 05, 2012, 04:54:42 PM
This seems like a hoax.  Time to move on.

"Reference to avoid Fakes that only you will have.
1.all these considerations did not deter me from the path of duty
2.he moment I understood the will of my Heavenly Father"

I'm guessing this was included to prove to PwC that the theft was legit. I would imagine the lawsuit for allowing the data to be stolen will cost them far more than than $1M.

What does that mean... that was included somewhere?

They might be passwords :-)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HostFat on September 05, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
What does that mean... that was included somewhere?
http://pastebin.com/1j1yzQ9S
http://pastebin.com/zdU1TK40


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bbit on September 05, 2012, 05:22:23 PM
he just got my  vote!!! ;D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: hashman on September 05, 2012, 05:28:12 PM
If this was real, they would have provided some kind of proof they possess these documents. Perhaps the information from a non-incriminating line, which would only be known by Romney or someone who has the documents. Kidnappers always send a photo of the kidnapped person holding today's newspaper to prove they have the person and they're alive.

Since no such evidence was shown, it is very probably a hoax.

Did you read the article? It lists a very specific location from where the tax returns were taken. I would imagine if the tax returns were actually in that location, they might have them. They also mention a scanned signature image.


They also give excerpts from the returns, I don't see how these could be in a tax return but evidently they are clear proof for somebody who has the documents:

Quote
Reference to avoid Fakes that only you will have.
1.all these considerations did not deter me from the path of duty
2.he moment I understood the will of my Heavenly Father

A bigger problem with this in my view is that there's no proof the documents won't be released anyway even after 100k coins are TXed. 

You'd have to be a total fool to pay.. right? 






Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HostFat on September 05, 2012, 06:03:30 PM
The simpler way is just share the encrypted file everywhere and send only to romney the key, then he will know that it's true :)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: evoorhees on September 05, 2012, 06:25:05 PM
LOL looks like it's unfolding further...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120905/WILLIAMSON/309050153/Romney-tax-return-claim-made-packages-left-Williamson-GOP-office?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7C%7Cp&nclick_check=1


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: darkmule on September 05, 2012, 06:28:59 PM
If you look at the blockchain info for the two addresses given by the alleged extortionists, they have a number of very small transactions, all in amounts like 0.01 0.0011100101 BTC and so on, all in the last day or so.  If you trace those back to the last address in the list, it is generally a recently created account with no activity until recently.  If you go back five or six, though, occasionally you hit an address that actually has a substantial amount of money in it.  For example, one I can find has 326 transactions, the earliest 2-18-2012, and currently contains 191.31036195 BTC.

I'm not going to post the blockchain link here.  I'm not particularly interested in "solving" this thing, and you can all duplicate this same "feat" easily enough and post it here if you like.  

My guess would be the odd tiny transactions are binary code of some sort, perhaps adding up to a message like "lulz."  But whoever did this apparently does have some knowledge of the network and how to mask transactions to some extent.

My first belief was they were just completely throwaway accounts created never to be used.  Some people went to some trouble to put a small amount of money in them in oddly structured transactions, though.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HostFat on September 05, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
Did you read the entire discussion? You should do it :)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: jimbobway on September 05, 2012, 06:39:36 PM
LOL looks like it's unfolding further...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120905/WILLIAMSON/309050153/Romney-tax-return-claim-made-packages-left-Williamson-GOP-office?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7C%7Cp&nclick_check=1

Hmmm...starting to get from virtual to real.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: cypherdoc on September 05, 2012, 06:43:03 PM
LOL looks like it's unfolding further...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120905/WILLIAMSON/309050153/Romney-tax-return-claim-made-packages-left-Williamson-GOP-office?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7C%7Cp&nclick_check=1

LOL. "“A million dollars seemed kind of low,” Barwick said. “If you’re going to go for a million, why not go for $100 million.”"

A symptom of a society hooked on easy money.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: dissipate on September 05, 2012, 06:46:14 PM
LOL looks like it's unfolding further...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120905/WILLIAMSON/309050153/Romney-tax-return-claim-made-packages-left-Williamson-GOP-office?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7C%7Cp&nclick_check=1

Alright, we know who did it. It was Erik Vorhees! This is a man who wants to destroy democracy and popularize Bitcoin in order to get more gambling addicts to use his Satoshi Dice gambling site!  :o


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: BkkCoins on September 05, 2012, 06:50:29 PM
LOL looks like it's unfolding further...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120905/WILLIAMSON/309050153/Romney-tax-return-claim-made-packages-left-Williamson-GOP-office?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7C%7Cp&nclick_check=1

LOL. "“A million dollars seemed kind of low,” Barwick said. “If you’re going to go for a million, why not go for $100 million.”"

A symptom of a society hooked on easy money.
Ha ha. Couldn't ask for $100 million with Bitcoin... but it does sound like this all took place more in private than it seemed earlier, which tends to make it sound more real than if it were announced publicly from the start.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: jimbobway on September 05, 2012, 07:09:16 PM
This is going viral and being retweeted by news networks.  Brace for impact.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Explodicle on September 05, 2012, 07:13:13 PM
$100 million is feasible if you consider that such an enormous buy would raise BTC/USD. Hell, even $1 million would cause quite a spike. It raises the question - why denominate a bitcoin ransom in dollars? Does Romney send them $1 million in bitcoins as of before or after the purchase?

Seems like a hoax to me.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: CoinDiver on September 05, 2012, 07:19:12 PM
Romney should buy $20 million in BTC, pay the ransom, then sell everything left back off.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: darkmule on September 05, 2012, 07:20:12 PM
I agree on the hoax aspect.  It doesn't seem like whoever did this really thought through the mechanics of what getting "$1 million USD" of Bitcoins would entail, or more likely, didn't care, because they were never intending on getting it.

I just hope for the pranksters' sake they covered their tracks better than it looks like they did.  Even without the tax returns, demanding money in return for silence is generally going to be considered extortion, and for a change, they've picked on someone politically connected enough to demand the feds "do something."  


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: hottweelz on September 05, 2012, 07:20:23 PM
I call BS.

It's way too easy to catch this guy.  He thinks the Bitcoin anonymity will protect him/them.  BUT its all the other loopholes of the Technology world that will bust him.

You heard it here first.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: malevolent on September 05, 2012, 07:25:58 PM
It's not the first bitcoin extortion. I know at least of one more, a group of hackers in Poland is threatening hosting companies with DDoSes unless they decide to comply with their terms of paying 25 BTC monthly subscription (that was the amount in May, dunno if it changed).


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: evoorhees on September 05, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
LOL looks like it's unfolding further...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120905/WILLIAMSON/309050153/Romney-tax-return-claim-made-packages-left-Williamson-GOP-office?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7C%7Cp&nclick_check=1

Alright, we know who did it. It was Erik Vorhees! This is a man who wants to destroy democracy and popularize Bitcoin in order to get more gambling addicts to use his Satoshi Dice gambling site!  :o

Hehehehe I don't want to destroy democracy, why would you say that??  I just want to be able to opt-out, just like I've done with the Federal Reserve ;)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: CoinDiver on September 05, 2012, 07:39:25 PM
Hehehehe I don't want to destroy democracy, why would you say that??  I just want to be able to opt-out, just like I've done with the Federal Reserve ;)

Damn it, where is the 'like' button...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 07:40:42 PM

My guess would be the odd tiny transactions are binary code of some sort, perhaps adding up to a message like "lulz."  But whoever did this apparently does have some knowledge of the network and how to mask transactions to some extent.

My first belief was they were just completely throwaway accounts created never to be used.  Some people went to some trouble to put a small amount of money in them in oddly structured transactions, though.

It's probably people here leaving binary messages just for shit and giggles.  Just because whoever created the accounts intended them as throwaways doesn't mean that people can't send BTC to them for fun now that the addresses are public.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Elwar on September 05, 2012, 07:57:18 PM
Quote
Scrawled in green lettering across one side are the words “For Rep Learders”

I say just pay the million then wait for the biggest redneck or teenager to suddenly start driving around town in a fancy new truck, decked out with new mud flaps and a cherry bomb muffler.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 05, 2012, 08:00:12 PM
Ok, secret service is involved now.  Wow.

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/secret-service-takes-alleged-stolen-romney-tax-records-sent-williamson-political-g

Quote
Secret Service takes alleged stolen Romney tax records sent to Williamson political groups
can u fix this link please, m8

EDIT; nm, working now. maybe it was gettting too many hits and timed out on me because of it. ;p

Quote
Scrawled in green lettering across one side are the words “For Rep Learders”

I say just pay the million then wait for the biggest redneck or teenager to suddenly start driving around town in a fancy new truck, decked out with new mud flaps and a cherry bomb muffler.
I wonder if that's a news typo or is verbatim...?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Elwar on September 05, 2012, 08:05:33 PM
I wonder if that's a news typo or is verbatim...?

Quote was followed by (sic)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 05, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
I wonder if that's a news typo or is verbatim...?

Quote was followed by (sic)

aye, thanks. I see it in the most recent linked article on it as well, where they pointed out a mispelling of the party name. ;p


Does anyone think it possible that Obama set this up and made sure to have it look like some random dofuses did it? So, they'll quickly track the dummies down but not before the info is either released or it can then be atleast used as ammunition to further imply Romney is hiding something by not releasing the returns?

/gold foil hat


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Elwar on September 05, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
The wording from the bottom:


However, all these considerations did not deter me from the path of duty; the moment I understood the will of my Heavenly Father, I felt a determination to go at all hazards, believing that He would support me by His almighty power, and endow me with every qualification that I needed.” (In Orson F. Whitney, Life of Heber C. Kimball, 3d ed., Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1967, pp. 103–4.)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: dissipate on September 05, 2012, 08:31:56 PM
The story has now gone mainstream: http://www.cnbc.com/id/48916562


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: labestiol on September 05, 2012, 09:21:15 PM
https://www.google.com/news/story?cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=romney+bitcoin&ncl=dEDkjGvGclJRWqMtoJXK3Cv7kF_xM&cf=all&scoring=n (https://www.google.com/news/story?cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=romney+bitcoin&ncl=dEDkjGvGclJRWqMtoJXK3Cv7kF_xM&cf=all&scoring=n)
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/lapsedlawyer/popcorn.gif


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 05, 2012, 10:16:01 PM
By the time they setup a mt gox account to buy the bitcoins and went through AML to withdraw them the date would be long past  :D

I wonder if Magical Tux would expedite things if the secret service showed up at his house and demanded 1 million dollars worth of bitcoin  ;D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ZodiacDragon84 on September 05, 2012, 10:22:37 PM
The feds could just use their super computers for a few hours to hash out the required amount...lol. Livermore and oakridge should do the trick, right?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ydenys on September 05, 2012, 10:29:47 PM
$15 by this weekend then?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: kinghajj on September 05, 2012, 11:09:42 PM
The feds could just use their super computers for a few hours to hash out the required amount...lol. Livermore and oakridge should do the trick, right?

Are you serious? That would just make the difficulty jump. It would still take 100000 / (5 * 6 * 24) = 13.8 days assuming they have near-100% of the hashing strength.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Paul Troon on September 05, 2012, 11:15:55 PM
If I am looking at the right number there are 9 Million Bitcoins in circulation at this moment, so at around 10 USD to 1 BTC that would be around 1% of all Bitcoins in circulation.  Of course, if both the release and do-not-release addresses are paid $1 Mil, then that would be 2% of all Bitcoins. 

It's highly unlikely you could buy up that many Bitcoins.  Just attempting it would cause the exchange rate to go far above $10 per Bitcoin.  Perhaps that is the extortionists plan all along though...

Either way though.. pass the popcorn, the media coverage of this will be fun to watch.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 11:19:15 PM
If I am looking at the right number there are 9 Million Bitcoins in circulation at this moment, so at around 10 USD to 1 BTC that would be around 1% of all Bitcoins in circulation.  Of course, if both the release and do-not-release addresses are paid $1 Mil, then that would be 2% of all Bitcoins. 

It's highly unlikely you could buy up that many Bitcoins.  Just attempting it would cause the exchange rate to go far above $10 per Bitcoin.  Perhaps that is the extortionists plan all along though...

Either way though.. pass the popcorn, the media coverage of this will be fun to watch.

I suspect you could buy up 100,000 BTC over the counter if you really wanted to. 


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: muyuu on September 05, 2012, 11:41:53 PM
Imagine someone hit an exchange and actually bought BTC100K.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 05, 2012, 11:48:44 PM
Imagine someone hit an exchange and actually bought BTC100K.

Imagine the Secret Service fucking up the exchange's shit if they could make the most tenuous connection between the purchase and the extortion threat.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ZodiacDragon84 on September 06, 2012, 12:02:21 AM
The feds could just use their super computers for a few hours to hash out the required amount...lol. Livermore and oakridge should do the trick, right?

Are you serious? That would just make the difficulty jump. It would still take 100000 / (5 * 6 * 24) = 13.8 days assuming they have near-100% of the hashing strength.

Satire my friend. I thought the LOL would make that evident.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: muyuu on September 06, 2012, 12:06:30 AM
If I am looking at the right number there are 9 Million Bitcoins in circulation at this moment, so at around 10 USD to 1 BTC that would be around 1% of all Bitcoins in circulation.  Of course, if both the release and do-not-release addresses are paid $1 Mil, then that would be 2% of all Bitcoins. 

It's highly unlikely you could buy up that many Bitcoins.  Just attempting it would cause the exchange rate to go far above $10 per Bitcoin.  Perhaps that is the extortionists plan all along though...

Either way though.. pass the popcorn, the media coverage of this will be fun to watch.

The condition was that, at the end of the transfer, the amount would be worth US$ 1M. That would actually cost a lot less than one million if done in quick successive orders as it would drive the price to the sky.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Mushroomized on September 06, 2012, 12:08:01 AM
The feds could just use their super computers for a few hours to hash out the required amount...lol. Livermore and oakridge should do the trick, right?

Are you serious? That would just make the difficulty jump. It would still take 100000 / (5 * 6 * 24) = 13.8 days assuming they have near-100% of the hashing strength.

Satire my friend. I thought the LOL would make that evident.
wouldnt it make more sense to use the supercomputers to crack the encrypted romney info documents, which I assume are just encrypted images of goatse


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ZodiacDragon84 on September 06, 2012, 12:10:27 AM
I'm sure they will just keep using them for nuclear weapons simulations and other sciency stuff.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Fluttershy on September 06, 2012, 12:17:39 AM
This looks like a job for John Goodman and Jeff Bridges.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ZodiacDragon84 on September 06, 2012, 12:20:00 AM
This looks like a job for John Goodman and Jeff Bridges.

LMAO. Jeff bridges is the name I give the cops when they stop me on my nightly jog and ask for ID.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 06, 2012, 01:05:37 AM
By the time they setup a mt gox account to buy the bitcoins and went through AML to withdraw them the date would be long past  :D

I wonder if Magical Tux would expedite things if the secret service showed up at his house and demanded 1 million dollars worth of bitcoin  ;D

hehe

I could imagine that if the president needed his people to get $1M to Gox's bank then a phone call from them would likely be enough to avoid the whole AMl process, beyond a fax or 2 between the banks involved.

Like others have said, they could likely buy up $500-750k BTC and have the acquired BTC be worth well over $1M when they were done. =)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 06, 2012, 01:20:24 AM
By the time they setup a mt gox account to buy the bitcoins and went through AML to withdraw them the date would be long past  :D

I wonder if Magical Tux would expedite things if the secret service showed up at his house and demanded 1 million dollars worth of bitcoin  ;D

hehe

I could imagine that if the president needed his people to get $1M to Gox's bank then a phone call from them would likely be enough to avoid the whole AMl process, beyond a fax or 2 between the banks involved.

Like others have said, they could likely buy up $500-750k BTC and have the acquired BTC be worth well over $1M when they were done. =)

I wonder if they would stick the excess in fort knox on a thumb drive  :D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 06, 2012, 01:22:41 AM
I wonder if they would stick the excess in fort knox on a thumb drive  :D

Hey, atleast then there would be something in there to secure.  du dun da CHING.  :P

hmm, maybe he would stash it in the secret compartment in the resolute desk......


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: paulie_w on September 06, 2012, 01:26:05 AM
i'm paulie_w and i support this message.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 06, 2012, 01:26:46 AM
I wonder if they would stick the excess in fort knox on a thumb drive  :D

Hey, atleast then there would be something in there to secure.  du dun da CHING.  :P

hmm, maybe he would stash it in the secret compartment in the resolute desk......

They just need to paint it gold like the other stuff they have stored there.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Portnoy on September 06, 2012, 01:34:01 AM
I wonder if they would stick the excess in fort knox on a thumb drive  :D

Hey, atleast then there would be something in there to secure.  du dun da CHING.  :P

hmm, maybe he would stash it in the secret compartment in the resolute desk......

They just need to paint it gold like the other stuff they have stored there.

You missed the point. They don't have any other gold stuff there.  

And, sadpandatech, a rim shot sounds like...
http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/ba_dum_tss_postcard-p239409341033870472baanr_400.jpg


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 06, 2012, 01:37:06 AM
I wonder if they would stick the excess in fort knox on a thumb drive  :D

Hey, atleast then there would be something in there to secure.  du dun da CHING.  :P

hmm, maybe he would stash it in the secret compartment in the resolute desk......

They just need to paint it gold like the other stuff they have stored there.

You missed the point. They don't have any other gold stuff there.   

And, sadpandatech a rim shot sounds like...
http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/ba_dum_tss_postcard-p239409341033870472baanr_400.jpg

I was referencing this -
http://www.prospectingjournal.com/fake-gold-detected-the-tungsten-gold-bar032612/ (http://www.prospectingjournal.com/fake-gold-detected-the-tungsten-gold-bar032612/)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Frankie on September 06, 2012, 02:03:33 AM

I wouldn't get so overconfident. They control the banking system. If they shut off funds transfers to Mt. Gox, which would be trivially easy to do, your bitcoin holdings will become worthless overnight.

There are exchanges in other parts of the world that would pick up the slack, using alternative means of funding. It would drive up the cost of acquiring and trading btc, which would probably drive up the value.

Governments banning commodities in demand have a history of increasing value.

80% of BTC exchanges are for USD. Source (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/).

Bitcoin is still in its infancy. It would not survive a shutdown of USD-facing exchanges. It's too vulnerable.

How many Americans still play online poker? It can be done using VPNs, a foreign bank account and foreign mailing address, but nobody bothers because of the hassle.

This is right.  Bitcoin doesn't have to be technically destroyed, it just has to lose enough commercial mass to make it uninteresting as a payment system, and if the U.S. government makes it very difficult for money to reach exchanges, that's feasible.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Severian on September 06, 2012, 03:02:00 AM
This is right.  Bitcoin doesn't have to be technically destroyed, it just has to lose enough commercial mass to make it uninteresting as a payment system, and if the U.S. government makes it very difficult for money to reach exchanges, that's feasible.

There are other ways to sell besides exchanges. I suspect that if someone can make a dime off of it, they'll always figure out a way to sell.

Last year's crash should have killed bitcoin. I don't think it's going anywhere for awhile.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: BC Systems on September 06, 2012, 03:07:51 AM
http://imgur.com/a/zOJK6#0

Take a look at the building the records were stolen from. This isn't Fort Knox, that is for certain.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 06, 2012, 03:42:07 AM
I agree on the hoax aspect.  It doesn't seem like whoever did this really thought through the mechanics of what getting "$1 million USD" of Bitcoins would entail, or more likely, didn't care, because they were never intending on getting it.

I just hope for the pranksters' sake they covered their tracks better than it looks like they did.  Even without the tax returns, demanding money in return for silence is generally going to be considered extortion, and for a change, they've picked on someone politically connected enough to demand the feds "do something."  

I have a feeling that the SS is going to be knocking on some Texan's door, and this time the guy who answers it won't be able to get away with, "My account was compromised, officers. Do I look like I'm in the process of committing suicide?"

SS1: Just the same, we'll be taking all the computers in this home to make sure.
SS2: And what's the deal with that democratic-blue light in the upstairs bedroom?
SS1: Did you just try to bribe us?
SS3: Matt, take a look inside this box marked Woolong Device. Looks to me like this guy was set to do a mass mailing.

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 06, 2012, 04:06:05 AM
http://imgur.com/a/zOJK6#0

Take a look at the building the records were stolen from. This isn't Fort Knox, that is for certain.

I once worked for a financial services company - the physical security was incredible.  Even once you were in the building - which required your fingerprint and a security pass for entry - you had to swipe your pass and enter a security code to open doors (and there were multiple doors between sections) and enter lifts.  Your pass determined which doors you could open and what floors the lift would take you to - the security system pretty much knew where you were to within 10 feet whenever you were in the building and that was before you even got near the computers.  Getting someone's financial records from their accountant's computer system would be child's play by comparison, I would imagine.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 06, 2012, 04:14:29 AM
This is right.  Bitcoin doesn't have to be technically destroyed, it just has to lose enough commercial mass to make it uninteresting as a payment system, and if the U.S. government makes it very difficult for money to reach exchanges, that's feasible.

There are other ways to sell besides exchanges. I suspect that if someone can make a dime off of it, they'll always figure out a way to sell.

Last year's crash should have killed bitcoin. I don't think it's going anywhere for awhile.

I just browsed silk road and there's  numerous ways to buy bitcoins there.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: repentance on September 06, 2012, 04:16:27 AM
The story has apparently hit the Fox News ticker  Don't know if Bitcoins are mentioned though.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 06, 2012, 04:48:05 AM
The story has apparently hit the Fox News ticker  Don't know if Bitcoins are mentioned though.

You just know that the psycho, Romney lovin' news outlets will be sure to spin it as some undeserved attack against such an upstanding American..


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 06, 2012, 04:51:32 AM
I can just see someone reporting their bitcoins stolen and a cop mistakenly arresting them for blackmailing Romney (or terrorism)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 06, 2012, 01:47:00 PM
I can just see someone reporting their bitcoins stolen and a cop mistakenly arresting them for blackmailing Romney (or terrorism)

Interesting! I think the SS should look into every major hack involving Bitcoin to make sure that the hackers are not planning on spending their loot as payola to release said documents. In case the SS reads this board, here's my short list: Tom Williams/MyBitCoin/Bruce Wagner; All those involved with Bitcoinica; The Intersango Crew; The hacker who broke into Bitfloor. And, for good measure, make sure the Woolong Device isn't being used to store said documents.

That should keep the SS busy for awhile, while us Bitcoiners continue developing Bitcoin to disrupt the global financial empire.

~Bruno~ (Newbie Bitcoiner who reclaims barn wood in Sandwich, IL)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Vandroiy on September 06, 2012, 02:09:55 PM
Most interesting move might be for an enemy to pay for keeping the files secret. Heck, the person who wrote the whole thing might just pay himself!

Once the bounty for "secret" has been paid, Mr. Romney will have campaign trouble.

Politicians and their games. I prefer not to follow them or play them, it's all so nonsensical.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 06, 2012, 02:17:26 PM
Most interesting move might be for an enemy to pay for keeping the files secret. Heck, the person who wrote the whole thing might just pay himself!

Once the bounty for "secret" has been paid, Mr. Romney will have campaign trouble.

Politicians and their games. I prefer not to follow them or play them, it's all so nonsensical.
It'd have to be a PAC, but that'd be an interesting game to play.
Surely moving a million dollars through Gox would create too much of a paper-trail for most though  ;)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: grue on September 06, 2012, 02:26:33 PM
By the time they setup a mt gox account to buy the bitcoins and went through AML to withdraw them the date would be long past  :D

I wonder if Magical Tux would expedite things if the secret service showed up at his house and demanded 1 million dollars worth of bitcoin  ;D
he's in japan. come at me, bro.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: CoinDiver on September 06, 2012, 03:19:40 PM
LOL.

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=636


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: grue on September 06, 2012, 03:26:33 PM
LOL.

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=636
you do realize that the deadline for the blackmail is BEFORE the election date, right?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: CoinDiver on September 06, 2012, 05:07:36 PM
and they still could very well be blocked, then released by the campaign after backlash.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 06, 2012, 06:27:29 PM
Quote from: Max Keiser
My own spin: I'll raise $1 mn. in bitcoin on http://PirateMyfilm.com  to pay hackers to release Mitt's tax info http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/395

https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/243466513967894528

"Mitt's Tax Returns: $1 mn. ranson fund (MITTS)"

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/395

EDIT: 41% funded



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 06, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
EDIT: 41% funded


Quote
% Bad Shares:
100% (?)

not looking that good of an investment   ;D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Kitemike on September 06, 2012, 06:55:28 PM
I wonder how Mitt is going to get around that $1000 a day limit most exchanges have...or is that just for withdrawals?  In any case, if Mitt wants to send me a million dollars, I'll send be sure to send him his 100,000 bitcoins right away (wink wink nod).


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: herzmeister on September 06, 2012, 07:16:14 PM
I wonder how Mitt is going to get around that $1000 a day limit most exchanges have...

I heard someone in here runs a dark pool service for such things, his name is pirate or something  ???


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bbit on September 06, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Quote from: Max Keiser
My own spin: I'll raise $1 mn. in bitcoin on http://PirateMyfilm.com  to pay hackers to release Mitt's tax info http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/395

https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/243466513967894528

"Mitt's Tax Returns: $1 mn. ranson fund (MITTS)"

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/395

EDIT: 41% funded



$55 dollars is 44% funded? lol


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: istar on September 06, 2012, 07:22:47 PM
The most interesting thing is that this opens up for the whole world to send Bitcoins.

Hell even Putin could get some Bitcoins and affect the whole outcome of the American presidential election and thus the future of the world (somewhat.)

Amazing thought...



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 06, 2012, 07:23:54 PM
Quote from: Max Keiser
My own spin: I'll raise $1 mn. in bitcoin on http://PirateMyfilm.com  to pay hackers to release Mitt's tax info http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/395

https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/243466513967894528

"Mitt's Tax Returns: $1 mn. ranson fund (MITTS)"

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/395

EDIT: 41% funded



$55 dollars is 44% funded? lol

Total Shares:200000
Shares Available:199989
Shares Reserved:11
No. PMF Fund Shares:80000
% Funded Total:41%
Time to Completion: 1 day

I don't get it. What's "No. PMF Fund Shares"?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bbit on September 06, 2012, 07:23:59 PM
I wonder how Mitt is going to get around that $1000 a day limit most exchanges have...

I heard someone in here runs a dark pool service for such things, his name is pirate or something  ???

Doesn't the pirate have $500,000 worth of bitcoins? He could easily do this and then get his bitcoins back ?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 06, 2012, 07:24:31 PM
The most interesting thing is that this opens up for the whole world to send Bitcoins.

Hell even Putin could get some Bitcoins and affect the whole outcome of the American presidential election and thus the future of the world (somewhat.)

Amazing thought...



Not really.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 06, 2012, 07:27:02 PM
Actually, one doesn't even need USD 1 million to pay this. Just buying bitcoins for $300,000 over the week before 28th or so would probably ignite such a rally that the price would shoot up considerably so that "1 million USD worth of bitcoin" might only be as much as was bought with the $300,000.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bbit on September 06, 2012, 07:28:45 PM
Quote

I don't get it. What's "No. PMF Fund Shares"?


To be honest PMF is pretty confusing  ???


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: istar on September 06, 2012, 07:46:31 PM
Did someone have the Bitcoin adresses?

The hackers did one misstake, should had posted a description to the adresses so that everyone in the world could followed the drama.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bitcoinbear on September 06, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Did someone have the Bitcoin adresses?

The hackers did one misstake, should had posted a description to the adresses so that everyone in the world could followed the drama.

The addresses are quoted in one of the threads about this topic, anybody can follow it.

EDIT: Actually, it was farther up in this thread. http://blockchain.info/address/1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8 (http://blockchain.info/address/1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8), Total Received 0.3557789 BTC


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: serp on September 06, 2012, 08:21:15 PM
http://nandbit.com/romney/


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 06, 2012, 09:02:02 PM
http://nandbit.com/romney/

awesome, lol!


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bbit on September 06, 2012, 09:22:48 PM
http://nandbit.com/romney/

this^^ FTW! lol


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bitcoinbear on September 06, 2012, 11:28:51 PM
http://nandbit.com/romney/


Awesome.

The "release" address is winning, but at this rate neither address is going to make it to a million before the expiration date.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: keystroke on September 07, 2012, 12:42:42 AM
It doesn't make sense to send money to either address unless it is done all at once. If there is a race and one loses they will have wasted their money. Please send me your coins and I will escrow them until it reaches 1 million. If not I will send them back :D With 7% interest (sorry couldn't resist)...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: niko on September 07, 2012, 01:07:56 AM
So, Bitcoin is taxable after all?  ;D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: tvbcof on September 07, 2012, 03:16:41 AM
It doesn't make sense to send money to either address unless it is done all at once. If there is a race and one loses they will have wasted their money. Please send me your coins and I will escrow them until it reaches 1 million. If not I will send them back :D With 7% interest (sorry couldn't resist)...

It does not make sense for anyone to send any BTC anywhere.  The perp has no particular reason to do anything except what might strike his/her/their fancy no matter who send what BTC where.  That is unless he/she/they had more goodies and wanted to demonstrate the effectiveness of paying him/her/them off as a setup for the next go around.  If so, though, they should have signed the note, and I didn't notice that in the pastebin.

On a tangent, it sounds like Romney saved a LOT more than a messily million $$ by cheating on his taxes all these years.  If he's dumb enough to trust a criminal I would think that the thousand large would be well worth the lesson vis-a-vis whom to entrust with one's data.  (Not, say, PWC :))



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 07, 2012, 07:41:30 PM
My blockchain notification just triggered - a whole bunch more transactions on the blackmail address...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: tpantlik on September 07, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
Uh, binary message, anyone cares to decode? I am on smartphone and it is not easy  :)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Narydu on September 07, 2012, 07:59:40 PM
Actually, one doesn't even need USD 1 million to pay this. Just buying bitcoins for $300,000 over the week before 28th or so would probably ignite such a rally that the price would shoot up considerably so that "1 million USD worth of bitcoin" might only be as much as was bought with the $300,000.

Yes! Perhaps we should show him this "bargain" oportunnity to do so!!!! Perhaps he is just being adviced by BTC manipulators about the best strattegy to follow ;-).

Please explain me this... didn´t they say that the would send the encrypted file everywere? Has it been done yet? Obviously it could contain only crap but...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: tbcoin on September 07, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
Uh, binary message, anyone cares to decode? I am on smartphone and it is not easy  :)

1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8

https://i.imgur.com/BH5zK.jpg

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m6crjs

file:where.wav

Here I haven't audio , please can someone  transcribe.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: muyuu on September 07, 2012, 08:10:51 PM
Uh, binary message, anyone cares to decode? I am on smartphone and it is not easy  :)

1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8

https://i.imgur.com/BH5zK.jpg

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m6crjs

file:where.wav

Here I haven't audio , please can someone  transcribe.

Trojan?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 07, 2012, 08:11:33 PM
Uh, binary message, anyone cares to decode? I am on smartphone and it is not easy  :)

1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8

https://i.imgur.com/BH5zK.jpg

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m6crjs

file:where.wav

Here I haven't audio , please can someone  transcribe.
Noise?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: tbcoin on September 07, 2012, 08:12:26 PM
Uh, binary message, anyone cares to decode? I am on smartphone and it is not easy  :)

1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8

https://i.imgur.com/BH5zK.jpg

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m6crjs

file:where.wav

Here I haven't audio , please can someone  transcribe.

Trojan?

file where.wav
where.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 22050 Hz


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: tpantlik on September 07, 2012, 08:13:02 PM
Uh, binary message, anyone cares to decode? I am on smartphone and it is not easy  :)

1HeF89wMjC48bWNgWvVo7Wu3RaLW8XVsE8

https://i.imgur.com/BH5zK.jpg

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m6crjs

file:where.wav

Here I haven't audio , please can someone  transcribe.
Another encoded message  ???


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 07, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
just a second it's a tinyurl in the spectum will post a pic


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: paraipan on September 07, 2012, 08:27:30 PM
just a second it's a tinyurl in the spectum will post a pic

lol, and you figured that out by...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: hashman on September 07, 2012, 08:43:17 PM
815 Brazos St Ste 500 Austin, TX 78701

I assume that's where the next clue is :)  I give up for now


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 07, 2012, 08:46:23 PM
just a second it's a tinyurl in the spectum will post a pic

lol, and you figured that out by...

The most obvious way to deal with it?

anyway here it is:
http://imgur.com/H6v28
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=815+Brazos+St+Ste+500+Austin,+TX+78701&ll=30.270319,-97.73987&spn=0.001369,0.002064&hnear=815+Brazos+St,+Austin,+Texas+78701,+United+States&gl=uk&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=30.27029,-97.739761&panoid=bYgP0ob-KEzxTfGAeHQnsw&cbp=12,219.68,,0,-1.17

anyway anybody wanna bother to find out what is written in the lower frequency band (if any)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 07, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
Here it is for those of you that aren't nerds  :D

http://i45.tinypic.com/2wekndl.jpg


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 07, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
There is a UPS Store and a link to this shady business (along with the corresponding shitstorm) if you zoom in.

https://plus.google.com/110405659009430277048


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: paraipan on September 07, 2012, 09:00:38 PM
Here it is for those of you that aren't nerds  :D

http://i45.tinypic.com/2wekndl.jpg

Impressive  :o


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: tpantlik on September 07, 2012, 09:01:08 PM
Here it is for those of you that aren't nerds  :D

http://i45.tinypic.com/2wekndl.jpg

09.10.12
08:30


 ??? ??? ;D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 07, 2012, 09:03:44 PM
someone put a webcam there


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 07, 2012, 09:04:46 PM
someone put a webcam there


I'll be there in 30 minutes.  ;D ;) :P


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Polvos on September 07, 2012, 09:06:35 PM
What does all that mean? A meeting? This is freak even for me


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 07, 2012, 09:08:33 PM
What does all that mean? A meeting? This is freak even for me
Well somebody would have to get up early and find out.

My take: it's trolling

The tinyurl linked to the uk version of google maps and the date notation is the European one while pointing to a spot in Austin/TX


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: tpantlik on September 07, 2012, 09:13:15 PM
http://imgur.com/H6v28

I think there is another line under the time - something like "All shall see" or "All shall lol"  :)

This is funnier than TV...  ;D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Polvos on September 07, 2012, 09:16:00 PM
Maybe "All shall be"?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: niko on September 07, 2012, 09:22:56 PM
What does all that mean? A meeting? This is freak even for me
Well somebody would have to get up early and find out.

My take: it's trolling

The tinyurl linked to the uk version of google maps and the date notation is the European one while pointing to a spot in Austin/TX
If European notation, it's October 9th.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: tpantlik on September 07, 2012, 09:27:27 PM
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 07, 2012, 09:28:35 PM
Maybe "All shall be"?
https://i.imgur.com/B5wsU.png


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 07, 2012, 09:29:24 PM
I meant the usage of points vs slashes...

Anyway I zoomed into the lower frequency it says
ALL SHALL BE
REVEALED


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Polvos on September 07, 2012, 09:31:49 PM
Ok, so it's a top freak trolling.
Back to my cave.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: FLHippy on September 07, 2012, 09:38:23 PM

My take: it's trolling

The tinyurl linked to the uk version of google maps and the date notation is the European one while pointing to a spot in Austin/TX

This is sure one way to divert attention from a bet that is about to expire :) I've totally changed channels from the MNW Bet show to the Romney extortion show. The Romney show is way way way more interesting!

If you wanna be a supah stah, this is how it's done!




Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Unacceptable on September 07, 2012, 09:41:25 PM
Well,some free advertising for Bitinstant  ;D

http://www.forbes.com/sites/abegarver/2012/09/07/bitinstant-to-romney-camp-well-convert-1000000-usd-to-bitcoin-for-free/

Way to go Voorhees  8)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Chang Hum on September 07, 2012, 09:43:24 PM
-That's interesting so at that location at 8:30 on Monday.
-That UPS seems to have no due diligence requirements for a post box which is very unusual (I downloaded the application form).
-It's two blocks away from the secretary of state building.
-I can't see a phone box outside which I would expect so they can call you using a crazy masked voice!

Could be a threat of some information implied by the location as well I suppose


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: hashman on September 07, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
I meant the usage of points vs slashes...

Anyway I zoomed into the lower frequency it says
ALL SHALL BE
REVEALED

Don't forget 9/10/12 08:30

We don't have to wait until the 28th to be disappointed!  


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 07, 2012, 09:45:26 PM

My take: it's trolling

The tinyurl linked to the uk version of google maps and the date notation is the European one while pointing to a spot in Austin/TX

This is sure one way to divert attention from a bet that is about to expire :) I've totally changed channels from the MNW Bet show to the Romney extortion show. The Romney show is way way way more interesting!

If you wanna be a supah stah, this is how it's done!




And you can bet there will be another interesting story to follow afterwards.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Chang Hum on September 07, 2012, 09:47:26 PM
What over elaborate stages could we create to get to say an image of a bear making love to a chicken? the worlds watching this don't forget it's important to send out the right message.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 07, 2012, 09:47:36 PM
As mentioned ealier, the building is also the registered business address of GPUMAX. someone trying to roast Pirate?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Chang Hum on September 07, 2012, 09:57:28 PM
As mentioned ealier, the building is also the registered business address of GPUMAX. someone trying to roast Pirate?

Are you sure according to who is information the registered address is

5100 Eldorado Pkwy
Mckinney, Texas 75070


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 07, 2012, 10:04:14 PM
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx)

Posted on previous page in this thread


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 07, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
first bitcoin lynchmob?

time for moar popcorn?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 07, 2012, 10:12:57 PM
This is material for another "The Good Wife" episode.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Chang Hum on September 07, 2012, 10:24:04 PM
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx)

Posted on previous page in this thread

Oh yeah sorry should have looked!

Very interesting, I'll stay tuned to see what it's about Monday!


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Aseras on September 08, 2012, 12:34:46 AM
How about this?

http://www.adweek.com/news/press/larry-flynt-offers-1m-reward-mitt-romney-tax-returns-143474


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Chang Hum on September 08, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
How about this?

http://www.adweek.com/news/press/larry-flynt-offers-1m-reward-mitt-romney-tax-returns-143474

Bloody hell that's an interesting twist, If it's not fake he'll still have to pay by bitcoin and we're probably in for a rally!!


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 08, 2012, 01:37:19 AM
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx)

Posted on previous page in this thread

correction though. It is the 'Registered Agent' address for gpuMAx and like 5,000 other companies who were registered by the same company on behalf of their customers.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 08, 2012, 02:42:18 AM
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx)

Posted on previous page in this thread

correction though. It is the 'Registered Agent' address for gpuMAx and like 5,000 other companies who were registered by the same company on behalf of their customers.

Interesting! https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=GPUMAX%20TECHNOLOGIES%2C%20LLC%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32046504976

Quote
State of Formation:   TX
File Number:    0801532530
SOS Registration Date:   January 10, 2012
Taxpayer Number:   32046504976

Note the Taxpayer #. Should be easy now to make this a federal case. FYI, the FBI has a tip line. I'm also sure the IRS will want their cut of the loot.

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: FLHippy on September 08, 2012, 02:59:47 AM


Interesting! https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=GPUMAX%20TECHNOLOGIES%2C%20LLC%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32046504976


I liked the Romney show better than the pirate show but... How exactly does someone with a very active company "dissapear" with $250,000 in this community's money? With that kind of money on the line why hasn't someone gone out to visit the cork socker?

I realize a lot of the people might need to borrow mom's car but certainly SOMEONE would have done this by now?




Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 08, 2012, 03:05:06 AM


Interesting! https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=GPUMAX%20TECHNOLOGIES%2C%20LLC%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32046504976


I liked the Romney show better than the pirate show but... How exactly does someone with a very active company "dissapear" with $250,000 in this community's money? With that kind of money on the line why hasn't someone gone out to visit the cork socker?

I realize a lot of the people might need to borrow mom's car but certainly SOMEONE would have done this by now?
cause all the people that would take action if they got ripped off are also smart enough to have not gotten ripped off here. ;p

We now resume you're regularly scheduled, "Romney Smells Like Licorice"


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: justusranvier on September 08, 2012, 03:14:46 AM
How exactly does someone with a very active company "dissapear" with $250,000 in this community's money? With that kind of money on the line why hasn't someone gone out to visit the cork socker?

I realize a lot of the people might need to borrow mom's car but certainly SOMEONE would have done this by now?
I don't live very far from McKinney so it would be very easy for me to drive over there and investigate some of the addresses that have been floating around, but since I never put any money into his scheme I don't really have any reason to.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: hashman on September 08, 2012, 03:33:06 AM
1060 W. Addison St. 


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 08, 2012, 03:38:52 AM
1060 W. Addison St. 


I just delivered barn wood to a new restaurant/bar less than two blocks from there a couple weeks ago. Do you have a GPS under my truck that I'm not aware of?

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: alexanderanon on September 08, 2012, 03:54:18 AM
http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-10-George-Costanza.gif


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: evoorhees on September 08, 2012, 05:29:31 AM
How about this?

http://www.adweek.com/news/press/larry-flynt-offers-1m-reward-mitt-romney-tax-returns-143474

Bloody hell that's an interesting twist, If it's not fake he'll still have to pay by bitcoin and we're probably in for a rally!!

Looks like the Larry Flynt angle is legit... http://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-flynt-is-offering-one-million-dollars-for-details-of-romneys-tax-returns/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-flynt-is-offering-one-million-dollars-for-details-of-romneys-tax-returns/)

This might get out of control fast lol


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 08, 2012, 05:31:55 AM
1060 W. Addison St. 


I just delivered barn wood to a new restaurant/bar less than two blocks from there a couple weeks ago. Do you have a GPS under my truck that I'm not aware of?

~Bruno~


Have you ever seen Trendon in person :D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: FlipPro on September 08, 2012, 05:38:49 AM
How about this?

http://www.adweek.com/news/press/larry-flynt-offers-1m-reward-mitt-romney-tax-returns-143474

Bloody hell that's an interesting twist, If it's not fake he'll still have to pay by bitcoin and we're probably in for a rally!!

Looks like the Larry Flynt angle is legit... http://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-flynt-is-offering-one-million-dollars-for-details-of-romneys-tax-returns/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-flynt-is-offering-one-million-dollars-for-details-of-romneys-tax-returns/)

This might get out of control fast lol
Tell me about it  :D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 08, 2012, 08:01:02 AM
How about this?

http://www.adweek.com/news/press/larry-flynt-offers-1m-reward-mitt-romney-tax-returns-143474

Bloody hell that's an interesting twist, If it's not fake he'll still have to pay by bitcoin and we're probably in for a rally!!

Looks like the Larry Flynt angle is legit... http://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-flynt-is-offering-one-million-dollars-for-details-of-romneys-tax-returns/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-flynt-is-offering-one-million-dollars-for-details-of-romneys-tax-returns/)

This might get out of control fast lol

looks like the trade-matching engine isn't working. 1 mio bid and ask on same item should be matched.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 08, 2012, 11:52:22 AM
It seems the good old NO YOU game.

The tax returns to have 1 mil dollar delivered first...
1 mil dollar to have the tax returns delivered first...

This way nobody gonna move, still plenty of publicity for everybody, and nobody has the inconvenience to be called up on their claim.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: niko on September 08, 2012, 01:34:02 PM
It seems the good old NO YOU game.

The tax returns to have 1 mil dollar delivered first...
1 mil dollar to have the tax returns delivered first...

This way nobody gonna move, still plenty of publicity for everybody, and nobody has the inconvenience to be called up on their claim.

Yes, but there is a difference: most people would agree that demanding a million-dollar irreversible payment without any proof the goods exist is unreasonable. Larry demanding a small, free taster first, however, is quite reasonable.

The fact that hackers' demands are so unreasonable tells me that this whole story is a hoax.



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Vladimir on September 08, 2012, 01:38:02 PM
How about this?

http://www.adweek.com/news/press/larry-flynt-offers-1m-reward-mitt-romney-tax-returns-143474

Bloody hell that's an interesting twist, If it's not fake he'll still have to pay by bitcoin and we're probably in for a rally!!

Looks like the Larry Flynt angle is legit... http://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-flynt-is-offering-one-million-dollars-for-details-of-romneys-tax-returns/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-flynt-is-offering-one-million-dollars-for-details-of-romneys-tax-returns/)

This might get out of control fast lol

"unless the Romney campaign wire transfers $1 million in Bitcoins." LOL Suckers at mediafire have no idea what Bitcoin is.

Quote


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 08, 2012, 07:10:31 PM
Breaking down yesterdays developments for the masses:

http://theclag.org/romney-return-release-update/


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: labestiol on September 08, 2012, 07:45:59 PM
Wow, the rabbit hole just got deeper


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: cypherdoc on September 08, 2012, 07:49:59 PM
Wow, the rabbit hole just got deeper

who's is that Austin, Tx address?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: labestiol on September 08, 2012, 07:56:31 PM
GPUMAX  :o ;D

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx)

Though they are not the only ones :

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Austin/815-Brazos-St-Ste-500-Austin-TX-78701-a17332777.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Austin/815-Brazos-St-Ste-500-Austin-TX-78701-a17332777.aspx)

BTW who did that analysis JDBound ?
First time I see info in a sound file, that's a really nice idea

EDIT : whoops, was some pages late


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Chang Hum on September 08, 2012, 07:56:51 PM
Wow, the rabbit hole just got deeper

who's is that Austin, Tx address?

Its the company that registered Pirates business


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: cypherdoc on September 08, 2012, 08:10:00 PM
GPUMAX  :o ;D

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Unknown/Unknown/gpumax-technologies-llc/101278778.aspx)

Though they are not the only ones :

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Austin/815-Brazos-St-Ste-500-Austin-TX-78701-a17332777.aspx (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Austin/815-Brazos-St-Ste-500-Austin-TX-78701-a17332777.aspx)

BTW who did that analysis JDBound ?
First time I see info in a sound file, that's a really nice idea

that was cool.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: etotheipi on September 08, 2012, 08:50:04 PM
First time I see info in a sound file, that's a really nice idea

Aphex Twin (band) actually did this a while ago.  I don't know if they pioneered it, but it is pretty cool:

http://www.bastwood.com/?page_id=10


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 09, 2012, 08:16:02 AM
Did anyone analyze the where.wav further? I don't have the tools, but it is possible that there also is a LSB encoded message in the sound file, i.e. each 16 bit value in each channel has the LSB substituted to form a binary message? The spectrograms posted shows some random dots which might only be artifacts.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 09, 2012, 05:47:38 PM
More binary showed up this morning.

http://x.co/nbvq
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ruxz4

The password protected .rar file looks clean and contains:

2007.pdf
2008.pdf
2009.pdf
2010.pdf



I tried a few passwords but nothing. Don't have time to keep trying right now.



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bitcoinbear on September 09, 2012, 05:59:06 PM
More binary showed up this morning.

http://x.co/nbvq
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ruxz4

The password protected .rar file looks clean and contains:

2007.pdf
2008.pdf
2009.pdf
2010.pdf



I tried a few passwords but nothing. Don't have time to keep trying right now.



Are these the encrypted returns from 07-10 the hacker says he will release the password to?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HostFat on September 09, 2012, 06:03:15 PM
It still doesn't prove anything :)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 09, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
It still doesn't prove anything :)
No, but if the romney camp know which years of tax returns got taken this will turn up the pressure on them  :D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: niko on September 09, 2012, 06:37:01 PM
More binary showed up this morning.

http://x.co/nbvq
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ruxz4

The password protected .rar file looks clean and contains:

2007.pdf
2008.pdf
2009.pdf
2010.pdf



I tried a few passwords but nothing. Don't have time to keep trying right now.



My bet still is that we are being taken for a ride, but... What algorithm is used for rar encryption?  In this case we can assume we know certain things about the plain text (pdf file structure).


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 09, 2012, 06:46:08 PM
More binary showed up this morning.

http://x.co/nbvq
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ruxz4

The password protected .rar file looks clean and contains:

2007.pdf
2008.pdf
2009.pdf
2010.pdf



I tried a few passwords but nothing. Don't have time to keep trying right now.



My bet still is that we are being taken for a ride, but... What algorithm is used for rar encryption?  In this case we can assume we know certain things about the plain text (pdf file structure).

here's a distributed gpu-supporting parallel rar pw cracker: http://www.parallelrecovery.com/rar-password.html

there's probably free/opensource tools, too.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 09, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
Hashcat is opensource linux. Runs on miner hardware also with underclocked ram. They have a good forum with a lot of tip's usable for optimising up your miner if you run linux also i.e. cmd line fan control, gpu temp etc.

A 6 gpu miner should crack an 8 character pw in 2.5 seconds if I remember right.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 09, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
CLAG is now offering a 1.0 BTC bounty for the first person to brute force this and generate a valid password.

To contribute please send donations to the address in my sig.

I will keep a running total of the bounty in this post if it ends up taking a while.


TOTAL BOUNTY: 2.06833783 BTC

Contributors:
CLAG: 1.0 BTC
FLHippi: 1.06833783 BTC (bd032661079e57c9661e6fa6926030091a671f3d04c31126d0c0ad9bac71ebf0 & 87fca448bef6e8506a91107c9606d8e9bb31f29a164c6c2e862a09855ea442ca)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 09, 2012, 09:11:34 PM
CLAG is now offering a 1.0 BTC bounty for the first person to crack this and generate a valid password.

To contribute please send donations to the address in my sig.

I will keep a running total of the bounty in this post if it ends up taking a while.


TOTAL BOUNTY: 1.0 BTC

Contributors:
CLAG: 1.0 BTC
Bet you can do it for under $1mil  :D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: FLHippy on September 09, 2012, 10:07:38 PM
CLAG is now offering a 1.0 BTC bounty for the first person to crack this and generate a valid password.

To contribute please send donations to the address in my sig.

I will keep a running total of the bounty in this post if it ends up taking a while.


TOTAL BOUNTY: 1.0 BTC

Contributors:
CLAG: 1.0 BTC

I just donated 1/4 of the bounty. Are you raising the bounty on donations?



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 09, 2012, 10:19:01 PM
CLAG is now offering a 1.0 BTC bounty for the first person to crack this and generate a valid password.

To contribute please send donations to the address in my sig.

I will keep a running total of the bounty in this post if it ends up taking a while.


TOTAL BOUNTY: 1.0 BTC

Contributors:
CLAG: 1.0 BTC

I just donated 1/4 of the bounty. Are you raising the bounty on donations?



Yes, donations made and noted in this thread will be put towards the bounty until someone brute forces the password.

Bounty post updated.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: FLHippy on September 09, 2012, 10:24:01 PM
I just donated 1/4 of the bounty. Are you raising the bounty on donations?

Yes, donations made and noted in this thread will be put towards bounty until someone cracks the password.

Groovy,

   I sent another donation then. Lets get it cracked.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 10, 2012, 01:14:07 AM
If someone cracks this and it looks like the files are what people suspect they are, you would be a smart guy not to brag about it and posting the files. Get it?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: hashman on September 10, 2012, 01:18:31 AM
I'm no pro but it seems that 128 bit AES is not gonna be 3BTC easy. 


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 10, 2012, 01:59:40 AM
Funny, just checked on Wiki.  Cracking 128-bit AES would be greater news than whatever is in that file.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 10, 2012, 02:17:23 AM
Funny, just checked on Wiki.  Cracking 128-bit AES would be greater news than whatever is in that file.

in this case, we're not cracking(breaking) the encryption. We are brute forcing the password by using the stored hash to compare against.


@Molecular that PCL is a good option and you can download the engine that they use and use it for free. There is a Cuda and a CL version. You would of course have to modify the source if you wanted to use it for parallel cracking.

It's command-line and likely not useful for anything longer than 6-7 characters unless you code your own using their engine.
http://www.crark.net/

edit; apparently they have a gui wrapper available there now. makes it much more windos friendly.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Luno on September 10, 2012, 02:28:12 AM
Sorry, you are right, meant a 128-AES password. something like 1.84 * 10^18 years. 100.000.000 times the age of the Universe. Worth more than 1M USD if done before 9.28.12.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 10, 2012, 02:51:13 AM
Sorry, you are right, meant a 128-AES password. something like 1.84 * 10^18 years. 100.000.000 times the age of the Universe. Worth more than 1M USD if done before 9.28.12.

given my lil 580 a workout with it. correction. spent 12 minutes to cover all 5 character combos of only lower case letters and numbers on a cuda core.


where are the bored miners at?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Mushroomized on September 10, 2012, 02:57:46 AM
Sorry, you are right, meant a 128-AES password. something like 1.84 * 10^18 years. 100.000.000 times the age of the Universe. Worth more than 1M USD if done before 9.28.12.

given my lil 580 a workout with it. correction. spent 12 minutes to cover all 5 character combos of only lower case letters and numbers on a cuda core.


where are the bored miners at?
I'll help, let me know how and Ill crunch some numbers with my 6950 for a while when Im not playing games.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 10, 2012, 03:09:21 AM
Sorry, you are right, meant a 128-AES password. something like 1.84 * 10^18 years. 100.000.000 times the age of the Universe. Worth more than 1M USD if done before 9.28.12.

given my lil 580 a workout with it. correction. spent 12 minutes to cover all 5 character combos of only lower case letters and numbers on a cuda core.


where are the bored miners at?
I'll help, let me know how and Ill crunch some numbers with my 6950 for a while when Im not playing games.
grab a copy of cRARk v. 3.41 with OpenCL support from http://www.crark.net
extract it all to a folder, minus the stupid crackme file.
toss a renamed copy of the tax.rar file in the same folder. get it from here; http://x.co/nbvq
rename english.def to password.def   You may also want to give a quick read through the .def file to uncomment some lines so you are searching more than just lowercase letters...
cmd line to your crark folder. type in crark   and it will give you a run down of the options, etc.
a basic test can be doing by using 'crark benchmark'  and will tell you how many passwords per second your card can run and let you know if it is accessing he gpu properly

alternatively you can try to use the GUI wrapper they have available; http://www.crark.net/download/crark_gui.zip
Ony my comp it did not work only because I needed to use an extra timing option for my vid card and was unable to do tht in the gui. It may work with the default vid settings for ATI.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 10, 2012, 03:12:03 AM
Somehow I doubt that password was chosen short enough to make it brute-forceable.
Added to that I think the rar probably doesn't even contain the tax returns or any useful information for that matter - it's somebody jumping on the bandwagon, trolling you guys.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 10, 2012, 03:12:51 AM
Somehow I doubt that password was chosen short enough to make it brute-forceable.
Added to that I think the rar probably doesn't even contain the tax returns or any useful information for that matter - it's somebody jumping on the bandwagon, trolling you guys.
haha, that's my assumption as well. Likely some 20+ character bohemeth with random symbols and numbers in it.

can't hurt to try though. a 5870 should be able to pull 30k~ p/s  not sure how long that would take to get to 10 character passwords though.

Any math wizzies know how many password combos there are from 5 to 10 characters if we use upper/lower case letters, numbers and symbols in just a basic Latin set?


I'm inclined to agree also with your addition. But I have some hope as the sizes of the PDF files are compareable to a few corporate return PDFs I just checked here in our database...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: niko on September 10, 2012, 04:19:41 AM
I was hoping for some side-channel attack. Do we even know if rar uses AES? Even if it does, how is it implemented? Does it help that in this case we can assume certain things about the plain text (pdf format)? Come on, can't bitcoin community do better than brute-forcing and dictionary?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: malevolent on September 10, 2012, 12:17:14 PM
Any math wizzies know how many password combos there are from 5 to 10 characters if we use upper/lower case letters, numbers and symbols in just a basic Latin set?

How many characters in total?

If it's 10 chars then I think it should be x^10 where x is the number of total number of characters used.
If it's only 0-9, a-z, A-Z, then the total amount of pwd permutations would be 62^10.
I don't know which other characters you're interested in, but in standard (ie. not extended) ASCII table there's 95 printable chars (0-9, A-z, symbols)

In that case it is 95^10
But I wouldn't worry about exluding short results, it takes very little time for the short ones.



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 10, 2012, 01:38:19 PM
Any math wizzies know how many password combos there are from 5 to 10 characters if we use upper/lower case letters, numbers and symbols in just a basic Latin set?

How many characters in total?

If it's 10 chars then I think it should be x^10 where x is the number of total number of characters used.
If it's only 0-9, a-z, A-Z, then the total amount of pwd permutations would be 62^10.
I don't know which other characters you're interested in, but in standard (ie. not extended) ASCII table there's 95 printable chars (0-9, A-z, symbols)

In that case it is 95^10
But I wouldn't worry about exluding short results, it takes very little time for the short ones.
Rock on, thanks for that.  I've run 95^5 and come up with nothing.  Correction, 37^5...  95^5 would take ~14k days @ 35kp/s    assuming I mathed right...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 10, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
Somehow I doubt that password was chosen short enough to make it brute-forceable.
Added to that I think the rar probably doesn't even contain the tax returns or any useful information for that matter - it's somebody jumping on the bandwagon, trolling you guys.
haha, that's my assumption as well. Likely some 20+ character bohemeth with random symbols and numbers in it.

can't hurt to try though. a 5870 should be able to pull 30k~ p/s  not sure how long that would take to get to 10 character passwords though.

Any math wizzies know how many password combos there are from 5 to 10 characters if we use upper/lower case letters, numbers and symbols in just a basic Latin set?

need no math wizzard for that, simple division and exponentiation:

Quote
In [8]: pow(36,10) / (3E4*60*60*12*365)
Out[8]: 7729.06823960548

7729 years assuming an alphabet of 36, pw-length 10, 30kp/s

(pw-length 5: 30 minutes)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 10, 2012, 02:23:33 PM
need no math wizzard for that, simple division and exponentiation:
sayeth the math wiz. ;p


In [8]: pow(36,10) / (3E4*60*60*12*365)
Out[8]: 7729.06823960548

7729 years assuming an alphabet of 36, pw-length 10, 30kp/s

(pw-length 5: 30 minutes)

And what about an alphabet of 95, pw-length 10, 30kp/s ?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 10, 2012, 03:48:43 PM
need no math wizzard for that, simple division and exponentiation:
sayeth the math wiz. ;p


In [8]: pow(36,10) / (3E4*60*60*12*365)
Out[8]: 7729.06823960548

7729 years assuming an alphabet of 36, pw-length 10, 30kp/s

(pw-length 5: 30 minutes)

And what about an alphabet of 95, pw-length 10, 30kp/s ?

lmgtfy (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=(95^10)/(30000*60*60*24*365)%3D)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 10, 2012, 03:51:15 PM

And what about an alphabet of 95, pw-length 10, 30kp/s ?

lmgtfy (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=(95^10)/(30000*60*60*24*365)%3D)

Nice, I actually did not realize Google would be so kind as to do exponential maths for my lazy ass.

63286079 years I presume?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 10, 2012, 03:57:39 PM

And what about an alphabet of 95, pw-length 10, 30kp/s ?

lmgtfy (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=(95^10)/(30000*60*60*24*365)%3D)

Nice, I actually did not realize Google would be so kind as to do exponential maths for my lazy ass.

63286079 years I presume?

you interpreted the expression correctly.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: rampone on September 10, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
I dunno, was this http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/09/hustler-publisher-larry-flynt-offers-1-million-for-romney-tax-returns/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/09/hustler-publisher-larry-flynt-offers-1-million-for-romney-tax-returns/) posted already ;)?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 10, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
I dunno, was this http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/09/hustler-publisher-larry-flynt-offers-1-million-for-romney-tax-returns/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/09/hustler-publisher-larry-flynt-offers-1-million-for-romney-tax-returns/) posted already ;)?

yep, thanks anyhow. The last major news about this was the bitinstant marketing gag 3 days ago... of course, since nothing's moving and all parties either want to keep things under the rug as much as possible or have already said all there is to say.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 11, 2012, 12:33:44 AM
So, I suppose all was not revealed in Austin, TX this morning? Anyone with evidence to suggest otherwise?

Bounty still stands for brute forcing the .rar


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: FLHippy on September 11, 2012, 12:42:13 AM
So, I suppose all was not revealed in Austin, TX this morning? Anyone with evidence to suggest otherwise?

Bounty still stands for brute forcing the .rar

Doing a little research this morning, there is a rar version which has a vulnerability in its encryption/password protection.

I think if the file were part of a troll, they would have used a dictionary password or they would have used the compromised version to make it easier on people who wanted to extract it and their troll more effective. It would be version 2.7. I don't know if it's all versions below 2.7 or just 2.7.

I don't have the tools do do this kind of thing myself. And I couldn't find anything for the mac which does it. I have a couple of dedicated linux miners but I don't trust any of the rar brute force source code or binaries that I found enough to put them on my miners or my macbook without worry of installing a trojan.

There are a bunch of high end windows applications but they cost money. More than the bounty.



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 12, 2012, 02:59:44 PM
This showed up a day prior to the latest binary.

http://pastebin.com/pfcqiKWX

Seems to be logically consistent with what has happened, although it's impossible to know if it's legitimate.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: jimbobway on September 12, 2012, 05:01:18 PM
This showed up a day prior to the latest binary.

http://pastebin.com/pfcqiKWX

Seems to be logically consistent with what has happened, although it's impossible to know if it's legitimate.

Has anyone tried downloading the files?

Edit: Ok, I just read more of the thread.  There are so many holes in this story.  For instance, the binary message that was created by sending transactions...anyone can do that, right?  It could be a hoax in a hoax in a hoax...

Anyone can create a binary message by sending coins to that address and make anything up.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Spekulatius on September 12, 2012, 05:32:21 PM
Quote
Has anyone tried downloading the files?

Yep, I did but as they say it is encrypted and requires a password to see whats inside that .7z file.

Now would anybody with better computational power then me mind cracking that password pls?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: sadpandatech on September 12, 2012, 06:26:15 PM
This showed up a day prior to the latest binary.

http://pastebin.com/pfcqiKWX

Seems to be logically consistent with what has happened, although it's impossible to know if it's legitimate.

Has anyone tried downloading the files?

Edit: Ok, I just read more of the thread.  There are so many holes in this story.  For instance, the binary message that was created by sending transactions...anyone can do that, right?  It could be a hoax in a hoax in a hoax...

Anyone can create a binary message by sending coins to that address and make anything up.
"44.12. Did everyone find the binary message encoded into those transactions?
45.Yes, very cute. Sorry, we can't do that to ourselves."

The binary messages wre going IN TO the addresses and not SENT from the guys holding the tax returns hostage.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: mc_lovin on September 12, 2012, 06:29:51 PM
I think if the 2nd pastebin is the same person as the 1st pastebin, then it's fake.  

However, he did get bitcoin on CNN, for that I applaud him.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: CoinDiver on September 12, 2012, 07:07:09 PM
I think if the 2nd pastebin is the same person as the 1st pastebin, then it's fake.  

However, he did get bitcoin on CNN, for that I applaud him.

Even if it's a fake, they have succeeded at keeping the tax returns in the news.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Slushpuppy on September 12, 2012, 07:19:38 PM
I thought Larry Flynt was already ponying up the money for all this?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: CoinDiver on September 12, 2012, 07:26:15 PM
I thought Larry Flynt was already ponying up the money for all this?

I'm sure he is waiting for some proof.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: keystroke on September 13, 2012, 05:11:05 AM
Interesting the files inside the archive have a modification date of 1/7/2012 8:18am. Why would they have been created so long ago?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HorseRider on September 13, 2012, 09:23:37 AM
There is still not much evidence that the Dr.evil has got the files.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 13, 2012, 04:36:36 PM
There is still not much evidence that the Dr.evil has got the files.

There is still not much evidence that Dr. Evil does not have the files.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: squid on September 13, 2012, 04:52:51 PM
There is still not much evidence that the Dr.evil has got the files.

There is still not much evidence that Dr. Evil does not have the files.

Really? You are going argue the same way religious nuts argue that their God exists?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 13, 2012, 04:54:59 PM
There is still not much evidence that the Dr.evil has got the files.

There is still not much evidence that Dr. Evil does not have the files.

Really? You are going argue the same way religious nuts argue that their God exists?

SOB! I get to use the following quote in two back-to-back unrelated posts.

Quote
Any crackpot on the street can come up with a grilled cheese with Mary on it, but the word of God in the Bible is eternal.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Insu Dra on September 13, 2012, 08:45:12 PM
There is still not much evidence. Therefore Dr Evil is presumed guilty until proven innocent. ;D

*sarcasms on*
Exactly; I would say lock him up, no phone call and no lawyers till he has proven otherwise ...
*sarcasms off*


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: keystroke on September 13, 2012, 10:37:26 PM
That RAR file has the CRC32s of the PDFs when they are not encrypted. We could generate all the CRC32 collisions of valid PDFs with the exact number of bytes, hahaha. Probably not computationally feasible though :D We might as well try breaking AES ;)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: LightRider on September 14, 2012, 12:58:09 AM
There is still not much evidence. Therefore Dr Evil is presumed guilty until proven innocent. ;D

*sarcasms on*
Exactly; I would say lock him up, no phone call and no lawyers till he has proven otherwise ...
*sarcasms off*

So says the NDAA.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: FLHippy on September 27, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
Well tomorrow is the 28th....
The thieves have collected a grand total of 3.794578789 BTC

I've been counting the days like a kid waiting for christmass. I want satisfaction.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 27, 2012, 06:08:14 PM
Somehow I think we've already seen the last of this.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 27, 2012, 07:19:14 PM
I will be returning donations for the above mentioned bounty if this is not cracked before the deadline.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: adamstgBit on September 27, 2012, 07:47:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY

its here  Mitt Romney's 2008 Taxes  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY)

 :D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on September 27, 2012, 08:32:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY

its here  Mitt Romney's 2008 Taxes  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY)

 :D

lol, wtf: income: 22 million USD, total tax: 412 USD.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on September 27, 2012, 08:38:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY

its here  Mitt Romney's 2008 Taxes  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY)

 :D
where's this come from??? Tell me this is real  :D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 27, 2012, 08:39:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY

its here  Mitt Romney's 2008 Taxes  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY)

 :D
where's this come from??? Tell me this is real  :D

Of course it's real, everything posted on the internets is real!  :P


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: JDBound on September 27, 2012, 08:40:39 PM
Anyone see this: http://pastebin.com/N6RQ7TkC


 ???


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HorseRider on September 28, 2012, 12:31:09 AM
There is still not much evidence. Therefore Dr Evil is presumed guilty until proven innocent. ;D

Until Dr.evil provide any evidence that he has the file, he is presumed has nothing but bluffing.

FTFY.

it's absurd for anyone to presume a random stranger's words is true without any evidence.

well, it's already the deadline. we'll see what happened.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: bitcoinbear on September 28, 2012, 02:23:00 AM
Well tomorrow is the 28th....
The thieves have collected a grand total of 3.794578789 BTC


How did they get 9/10ths of a satoshi?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ArticMine on September 28, 2012, 02:27:24 AM
There is still not much evidence. Therefore Dr Evil is presumed guilty until proven innocent. ;D

Until Dr.evil provide any evidence that he has the file, he is presumed has nothing but bluffing.

FTFY.

it's absurd for anyone to presume a random stranger's words is true without any evidence.

well, it's already the deadline. we'll see what happened.

Not yet. The politician being ransomed here is from the United States and not from Kiribati and Dr. Evil has not been clear on which time zone applies.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Mushroomized on September 28, 2012, 04:02:33 PM
He's probably busy feeding Mr.Bigglesworth



Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: crazy_rabbit on September 28, 2012, 07:15:05 PM
I think this is already over. Unfortunately.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: HorseRider on September 29, 2012, 02:11:48 AM
which time zone does Dr. Evil use? UCT -2400000000 time zone?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: adamstgBit on September 29, 2012, 02:18:58 AM
is their no news about this on the TV?

http://s1167.photobucket.com/albums/q633/anonymous-bitcoin/


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Red Emerald on September 29, 2012, 02:26:42 AM
Guys.  This is from the 21st...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/21/romney-drops-his-tax-returns.html


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: adamstgBit on September 29, 2012, 02:30:05 AM
Guys.  This is from the 21st...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/21/romney-drops-his-tax-returns.html

ya thats  2011 tax returns

not 2008


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Red Emerald on September 29, 2012, 02:33:46 AM
Guys.  This is from the 21st...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/21/romney-drops-his-tax-returns.html

ya thats  2011 tax returns

not 2008
Ah right.  That's a lot of money if it's not a forgery.  Not like it's hard to shop an e-form.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: kwukduck on October 04, 2012, 02:01:53 AM
Sooo... i guess this was all just a big scam again with no actual hack and  no actual documents to reveal?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: adamstgBit on October 04, 2012, 02:14:21 AM
Sooo... i guess this was all just a big scam again with no actual hack and  no actual documents to reveal?

not sure.. some did release 2008 tax returns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY

its here  Mitt Romney's 2008 Taxes  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyArMmOHaY)

 :D


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Frankie on October 04, 2012, 10:31:05 AM
Sooo... i guess this was all just a big scam again with no actual hack and  no actual documents to reveal?

not sure.. some did release 2008 tax returns

But no forms to explain the millions of deductions.  LOL.

Did you know you too can "release" his taxes with nothing more than pdf software?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: LightRider on October 18, 2012, 05:34:28 AM
http://octsurprise.com/
https://twitter.com/OctSurprise

Related?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: MelMan2002 on October 18, 2012, 03:11:52 PM
http://octsurprise.com/
https://twitter.com/OctSurprise

Related?

Looks like it is probably the same guy (based on his "preview" of "document 3").  Don't know how he thinks that he can prove that they are genuine...even I can photoshop a tax document and I have very little in photo editing skills.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 18, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
http://octsurprise.com/
https://twitter.com/OctSurprise

Related?

Looks like it is probably the same guy (based on his "preview" of "document 3").  Don't know how he thinks that he can prove that they are genuine...even I can photoshop a tax document and I have very little in photo editing skills.

http://politicker.com/2012/10/meet-two-of-the-developers-behind-the-internet-october-surprise/


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Shadow383 on October 18, 2012, 10:46:36 PM
http://octsurprise.com/
https://twitter.com/OctSurprise

Related?

Looks like it is probably the same guy (based on his "preview" of "document 3").  Don't know how he thinks that he can prove that they are genuine...even I can photoshop a tax document and I have very little in photo editing skills.
My antivirus goes crazy about some JavaScript thing on that octsurprise page...


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: LightRider on October 19, 2012, 01:25:36 AM
http://octsurprise.com/
https://twitter.com/OctSurprise

Related?

Looks like it is probably the same guy (based on his "preview" of "document 3").  Don't know how he thinks that he can prove that they are genuine...even I can photoshop a tax document and I have very little in photo editing skills.

http://politicker.com/2012/10/meet-two-of-the-developers-behind-the-internet-october-surprise/

Turns out to be a giant RickRoll. I'm glad that the internet is getting to the point where we are almost consuming our culture almost as fast as it is being created, and investigating things until they're completely exposed.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: MelMan2002 on October 22, 2012, 11:04:04 PM
http://octsurprise.com/
https://twitter.com/OctSurprise

Related?

Looks like it is probably the same guy (based on his "preview" of "document 3").  Don't know how he thinks that he can prove that they are genuine...even I can photoshop a tax document and I have very little in photo editing skills.

http://politicker.com/2012/10/meet-two-of-the-developers-behind-the-internet-october-surprise/

Turns out to be a giant RickRoll. I'm glad that the internet is getting to the point where we are almost consuming our culture almost as fast as it is being created, and investigating things until they're completely exposed.

Indeed - sad that they really couldn't come up with something better than a lame RickRoll.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: FLHippy on October 23, 2012, 02:45:43 AM
The rickroll was predicted before it happened.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: phungus on November 10, 2012, 04:07:37 PM

Did anyone notice that they have apparently found the person who tried to pull this fraud?

I just saw this on Cryptome:

http://cryptome.org/2012/11/romney-tax-plot.pdf


Search Warrant for Michael Mancil Brown. They want a DNA sample. They've got IP addresses from Pastebin and from some newspaper in Tennessee.

Check it.

-p


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: BCB on November 10, 2012, 04:14:25 PM
evidently it is this guy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6825.0
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30632&sid=bc2ba1be6bb99fef8c9941ef67f4b5b3
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123591.0


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: phungus on November 10, 2012, 04:17:44 PM

Looks like this is a little nuts...


http://www.thedaily.com/article/2012/11/09/110912-news-romney-tax-raid/
http://mbdonationfund.com/

-p


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: phungus on November 10, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
I hope he backed up his 371,000BTC well before the secret service took it!!!!

EDIT -- oh wait, supposedly he donated it all to others?


That whole story sounds fishy, WTF.


-p


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ArticMine on November 10, 2012, 04:40:21 PM
What I find interesting about this case is that the search warrant specifically identified Bitcoin and two specific Bitcoin addresses among the items to be seized. Is this a first?

If this guy has over 370,000 BTC why on earth is he asking for financial donations?


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: CoinDiver on November 10, 2012, 06:07:30 PM
why on earth is he asking for financial donations?

Too bad he's not taking bitcoin donations :)


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: molecular on November 10, 2012, 06:46:30 PM
That whole story sounds fishy, WTF.

This doesn't make much sense to me. I suspect we don't have all relevant information yet ;>


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 10, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
Wait till you get a look at his getaway vehicle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eNdU9QQZUk


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: stochastic on November 13, 2012, 05:52:04 PM

If this guy has over 370,000 BTC why on earth is he asking for financial donations?

He probably had the encrypted passwords saved on his computer that were seized.

BTW, I think this guy is 100% innocent.  The only fraudsters in bitcoin land use Bootstrap for website design, yet this guy used Joomla.


Title: Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion?
Post by: ElectricMucus on November 13, 2012, 07:30:33 PM
BTW, I think this guy is 100% innocent.  The only fraudsters in bitcoin land use Bootstrap for website design, yet this guy used Joomla.

That sure is a pattern  :D