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I don't know what to do.  I am pretty new to the bit coin community and didn't do my due diligence by reading up on Bruce before my most recent transaction with him.  I had successfully transferred money to Bruce twice in the past, and received my bit coins oftentimes the same day.  On August 27th, I transferred $951.21 to Bruce's account through my bank and have yet to receive my bit coins.  I have tried to get in touch with him by email, phone messages, and texts.  The only word I have heard from him was after I sent my picture of the bank receipt through text.  He said that he didn't get the picture.  I have resent the picture a number of times to no avail.  I am at a loss of what to do next.  I know I deserve some blame for being naive about the situation but losing close to a grand really sucks.  Can anyone help me with what I should do next?  Please help!

Ouch bro, dunno what to say other then shit happens. Hopefully he'll end up sending your coins..but at this point it doesn't seem likely.

I just wish that there was something I can do...even to get a partial refund or something   >:(

Bruce Wagner is a pedophile con man. He was run off the forums about a year ago after another forum (somethingawful) dug up a bunch of info on a real estate scam he was running (amongst other things).

Sorry to tell you this, but your chance of getting your money back is slim to none.

In the future, id reccommend using an established exchange (like mtgox) to purchase btc. Be sure to do your due dilligence before purchasing from anyone, including the exchanges. Bitcoin is still pretty much the wild west, and there are a lot of opportunities to get scanned, unfortunately.

Have you called him or visited his office?

He works like 4 blocks away from where I am sitting right now.

Want me to bust some balls?

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Is it possible to file fraud charges against him through your bank and have them reverse the transaction?

I have called the 6465800044 number many times and have only been able to leave messages.  I live in CA so going to him isn't feasible.  Could you really go to his office?  I just hate losing so much money and not hearing anything from him.  I feel so powerless...  Let me know.  I would appreciate resolving this situation in some way.  I will make sure to do my due diligence in the future.  Thanks!

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Do it 60 Minutes style with cameras rolling.

To mix tape man...I used cash to transfer and it was on 8/27 so I don't know if My bank could reverse charges at this point  ???

His cell: 646-580-0022
OnlyOneTV.com Studios
290 5th Avenue, New York, NY

Let me know if you need anything else

-Charlie

Leave him a voicemail saying "See you at the Carnegie Deli" and just hit him NY Style...

That part of town hasn't seem any action in a few weeks.

dude, I remember that one guy forget his name , were going to meet someplace and duke it out hahaha....epic! I long for those early bitcoin days!  ;D

Speak to your bank.  They should be able to reverse the transaction.

I am not sure about the US, but in the UK we have a small claims court where you can take someone who owes less than £5k.  You can use a solicitor if you want but cannot recover legal costs, so most people dont bother.  You present your case to the judge and he can make the other party pay up.  You may have something similar.

Leo Camillo....we actually met for bears a few weeks ago, cool dude.

LEAVE THE BEARS ALONE

Call your bank ASAP and stop messing around on the forums or trying to reason with a known scammer. Good luck, and please let us know what happens.

Attempt to reverse the wire transfer at your bank. If this does not work, go here:

http://www.fraud.org/info/contactnfic.htm

Just talked to my bank and since I did a cash transfer there is nothing that they can do at this point :(. They recommended filing a police report or taking legal action.  What do you guys think I should do?

At this point, we drive him out to a little town called "Montauk Point" in his boxers... and tell him to walk home.  Or he can pay 1BTC per mile to get a ride.

I know people.

a police report might scare him into refunding you.

Either that or he might decide he needs another vacation...  what's the weather like in Pattaya this time of year?    8)

I texted him and left a message on his cell stating that if I didn't hear from him within 2 days that I would go ahead and report him.  Will keep you guys updated.  Thank all of you for your help! 

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Report it to the local police.

Have someone make him one of these:

http://alexcarvajalisathief.com/

I think that NY address is just a primo remailer service.

if you have his banking information, just do an EFT.

The NEW Bitcon Show should feature video of Bitcoin users tracking down and confronting other users who ripped them off.  I would watch that ALL DAY.  Or, if someone wants try it...I will film, edit, score, etc.  Dead serious.

To the OP,

How did you find Bruce Wagner?  Just curious.  I am surprised he is still able to pull in marks.   He can't advertise here, he can't on rediit, he can't anywhere there is any significant bitcoin presence (because people will drown him out with calls of scams).  Yes somehow he still gets his message to the people he scams.

Any links you can provide will be useful.  Oh and next time buy from someone you can trust ... like Tangible Cryptography. ;)

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/400799_420194741351368_782844884_n.jpg

+1 though. Tangible Crypto has the hookup

Powerful shizzz...

http://i46.tinypic.com/2iuqfrd.jpg

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105901.msg1162706#msg1162706

he still has a website apparently. No idea where he is promoting it though.

He's still active on these pages:

http://brucewagner.com/

http://brucewagner.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/bitcoinpeople

http://buybitcoin.com/home/

http://buybitcoin.com/home/

Notice all the insane conditions in the FAQ.  It's intentionally misleading because he tells people the "best" ways to buy Bitcoin but doesn't accept most of those payment methods - and then states that he won't refund payments sent by "unapproved" payment methods.


He's selling at over $17, by the way, so I think he's intentionally seeking out a black market.  The deposits into his accounts have no reference numbers, they're identified by the number of cents in the transaction.

Which of his many different bank accounts did you deposit to, OP?

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Do you know if this is LSD or Acid?

Someone gave it to me at our meetup, and Im not sure.

Just spent some time reading about the self-proclaimed "most famous person in bitcoin." Hope he experiences an eternity of cock-punches someday.

ummm.....  ???

I FINALLY heard back from him and he said that he would get back to me within 4 hours.  Will keep you guys updated... ???

I was new to the bitcoin game and when i did a google search his sites was one of the first results.  I bought into the positive experiences that were posted on his site and it was a pretty easy process.  I had conducted two successful transfers with him within the past few months.  I had not heard of his shady past or that he had gotten "hacked" until after this last transition.  Don't worry, next time I will ensure that I buy from a reputable source!  I have learned my lesson  :-\

Yep, when I first found out about bitcoin, bruce's sites were some of the first I encountered.

Lots of new users, when they see all these sites that don't accept paypal, google "bitcoin paypal" or something similar. Bruce's site bitcoinme.com is usually on the first page of google results.

Hmm anyone know a good SEO company which deals in search engine deoptimization? ;)

Luckily he doesnt own bitcoin.me  :D

By the way, that threw me off for the longest time.

Whatever happened to good old-fashioned Google-bombs?

Just get every forum member to search "Bruce Wagner is a bitcoin scammer" multiple times and the phrase will become a suggested search as soon as someone types in "Bruce Wagner".

Is this thread here because onlyonetv's last show interviewed Bitfloor's founder who is back in the news again? 

Ya, I thought he was Bruce also lol

Sorry to ask, but you didn't really expect negativ experiences on his site, did you?

I really hope you get your coins, wouldn't really count on it though.
Better go to the next police station right now, just in case.

I didn't even know that show still exists, i stopped checking it when the "daily bitcoin show" just showed up once every couple of weeks, or was that months? Whatever..

But i hope this thread is not around to advertise any of Bruce's "services", should be more of a warning to newcomers that don't know anything about him yet.

From the BitFloor thread:


[Edit: Same post office, different PO Box]

He was also promoting mybitcoin.com shortly before it got "hacked".

Ok, just was cleared up for me.  That's the same post office address, but different PO boxes.

Even if it was, ( and you were not adverse to entheogenic explorations of consciousness and wider-deeper levels of reality )
do you really want to put THAT in your mouth? 

This is what he just wrote to me....I think I should just file a police report at this point.  Is there any chance of me getting a penny of my money back?  What do you guys think I should do?  I am beyond frustrated and angry!


So here's what happened....

The supplier where we have been getting our Bitcoins from.... was hacked and robbed. 

They lost about $250,000 worth of Bitcoins.   About $10,000 worth of those Bitcoins was OURS.   ( Lucky it wasn't a lot more than that, at the time. )

So, I am quickly arranging to get more Bitcoins through an alternate source, but it will take a couple of days to complete the bank wire transfer to Hong Kong... and get the Bitcoins in hand.

First, obviously, I apologize for any inconvenience and trouble this delay has caused.  It cost me $10,000 so far.  Plus unhappy customers, which is even worse.

At this point, I can give you two choices.   You can either wait about 3 days for the entire Hong Kong bank wire / purchase process to complete....  Then I'll send the Bitcoins to you.     Or....  I can issue a refund to you of your US dollars.   However, note that issuing a bank check by mail will take about 2 weeks to be sent in the mail.

Please let me know which one sounds better to you.  And, again, I apologize for this situation. 

Obviously, we will be using a different supplier and this should never happen again.

Bruce

Your not the only one. File a judgment to get in line. However, recovery of said judgement is unlikely.
The only way to find him is to hunt him down.
And if you found him he wouldn't be sorry.
You would need to get the rest of the victims to hire some muscle.
It wouldn't be pretty.
Do you want't to start a find bruce wagner website?

If you want to find Bruce Wagner this might be a clue:

https://www.bitpremier.com/items/view/355

This thread  ;D