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Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

It recently occurred to me that all this speculation about "who" Satoshi is might be a red herring, and that the name does not stand for an individual person but for a top secret gov't operation. Then I started to wonder how to crack the enigma of that elusive name, and it soon became clear that it had to be an anagram for something. As I researched further into this I became convinced that this has to be the answer to "who" Satoshi is. After some exhaustive work I arrived at what seems to me the most likely decipherment of the code and I now present it in these forums for the review of the bitcoin community. You may not agree with the specific anagram I came up with as there are many other possibilities. But it seems undeniable that the name "Satoshi Nakamoto" is some kind of code. Solving the code could be the key to the survival of bitcoin. Here's the anagram I came up with:

A NSA Soma hit to KO

KO is of course a term from the sport of boxing which means "knockout." Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable. I don't think the term "NSA" requires any explanation in these forums.

And with this it becomes clear what's really going on with bitcoin. I'm not saying to avoid bitcoin and never use it. It's possible that the people will be able to re-direct bitcoin from its original purposes of governmental control, or even to create a new crypto with different aims. But an awareness of these hidden realities is advisable as we move into an unknown future.

It recently occurred to me that all this speculation about "who" Satoshi is might be a red herring, and that the name does not stand for an individual person but for a top secret gov't operation. Then I started to wonder how to crack the enigma of that elusive name, and it soon became clear that it had to be an anagram for something. As I researched further into this I became convinced that this has to be the answer to "who" Satoshi is. After some exhaustive work I arrived at what seems to me the most likely decipherment of the code and I now present it in these forums for the review of the bitcoin community. You may not agree with the specific anagram I came up with as there are many other possibilities. But it seems undeniable that the name "Satoshi Nakamoto" is some kind of code. Solving the code could be the key to the survival of bitcoin. Here's the anagram I came up with:

A NSA Soma hit to KO

KO is of course a term from the sport of boxing which means "knockout." Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable. I don't think the term "NSA" requires any explanation in these forums.

And with this it becomes clear what's really going on with bitcoin. I'm not saying to avoid bitcoin and never use it. It's possible that the people will be able to re-direct bitcoin from its original purposes of governmental control, or even to create a new crypto with different aims. But an awareness of these hidden realities is advisable as we move into an unknown future.

I don't think they would have presented anyone as Satoshi.
If nobody knows who Satoshi is Bitcoin lives.
Once Satoshi comes forward, Bitcoin is dead.
At least that is what I think.



I don't think, if it was/is the NSA, they would be using an anagram.

I think they would have chosen a poor guy, and dump everything on him. a real person to act as a puppet....

Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

It recently occurred to me that all this speculation about "who" Satoshi is might be a red herring, and that the name does not stand for an individual person but for a top secret gov't operation. Then I started to wonder how to crack the enigma of that elusive name, and it soon became clear that it had to be an anagram for something. As I researched further into this I became convinced that this has to be the answer to "who" Satoshi is. After some exhaustive work I arrived at what seems to me the most likely decipherment of the code and I now present it in these forums for the review of the bitcoin community. You may not agree with the specific anagram I came up with as there are many other possibilities. But it seems undeniable that the name "Satoshi Nakamoto" is some kind of code. Solving the code could be the key to the survival of bitcoin. Here's the anagram I came up with:

A NSA Soma hit to KO

KO is of course a term from the sport of boxing which means "knockout." Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable. I don't think the term "NSA" requires any explanation in these forums.

And with this it becomes clear what's really going on with bitcoin. I'm not saying to avoid bitcoin and never use it. It's possible that the people will be able to re-direct bitcoin from its original purposes of governmental control, or even to create a new crypto with different aims. But an awareness of these hidden realities is advisable as we move into an unknown future.

Open your eyes bro, that's just what they want you to think. ...

Open your eyes bro, that's just what they want you to think. They depend on codes built into their public names, sorta like how private key encryption derives public keys from private keys through the use of passwords. How else will allied agencies and operations communicate with each-other without risking the interception of their signals. They build secret info into names so that various deep-cover agents and groups can retrieve the information without the use of radio signals.

I just broke their code and instead of thanking me you guys are attacking me. Fine suit yourselves, go on living in the dark until they decide it's time to bring down the gauntlet.

Well don't blame me, the NSA came up with it I just deciphered it. There are, howerver, other possibilities:

oh i am nsa task too

I mask nsa oath too

 ::) :-\

bitcoin has not flaws, if you are thinking the contrary .... then please explain or better illustrate these flaws ;). Remember that bitcoin was created only few years ago and it can surpass and 'destroy' the actual economic system (because it is better and more easier to use).

Guilty as charged  :D I'm procrastinating from what I really have to get done this morning, which is draft and send a demand letter to a pre-paid debit card company that closed my account and is trying to get out of sending me a check for the account balance. Making up conspiracy theories is much more fun than threatening to sue crooked banks  ;D

Well I certainly don't agree with Laudam's point that bitcoin has no flaws. I also think it matters a lot who created bitcoin, but that's besides the point. Not sure what you mean by "NSA spy surrounded by members," so can't respond to that particular accusation.

These ad hominim attacks are telling, the truth hurts i guess.   :'(

NSA for sure can find who Satoshi Nakamoto is
and maybe he already has found job in USA,maybe CIA or something ,becouse of his skills
offcourse paid in bitcoin

 Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable

And btc we can consider btc like a drug,drug is opening eyes for a while,but if to be to much attached,can destroy

That book is preety good

It recently occurred to me that all this speculation about "who" Satoshi is might be a red herring, and that the name does not stand for an individual person but for a top secret gov't operation. Then I started to wonder how to crack the enigma of that elusive name, and it soon became clear that it had to be an anagram for something. As I researched further into this I became convinced that this has to be the answer to "who" Satoshi is. After some exhaustive work I arrived at what seems to me the most likely decipherment of the code and I now present it in these forums for the review of the bitcoin community. You may not agree with the specific anagram I came up with as there are many other possibilities. But it seems undeniable that the name "Satoshi Nakamoto" is some kind of code. Solving the code could be the key to the survival of bitcoin. Here's the anagram I came up with:

A NSA Soma hit to KO

KO is of course a term from the sport of boxing which means "knockout." Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable. I don't think the term "NSA" requires any explanation in these forums.

And with this it becomes clear what's really going on with bitcoin. I'm not saying to avoid bitcoin and never use it. It's possible that the people will be able to re-direct bitcoin from its original purposes of governmental control, or even to create a new crypto with different aims. But an awareness of these hidden realities is advisable as we move into an unknown future.

The NSA is so overwhelmed with data that making use of it efficiently is impossible.

Source:http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-overwhelmed-with-data-ineffective/

Even if there are evidence collected by NSA's program that would help track Satoshi, I'm sure that it's not going to help much. Bot to speak about the fact that that Satoshi was an encryption expert. Even with the evidence he left behind, we still have very few clues of who he could actually be.

OMG, Bitcoin is the work of NSA!!!!
It's the tool for evil!

Quick sell you coins immediately, doesn't matter how much, just get rid of it.

Sell it to me @ $10 per coin ::)

It's funny how much conspiracy theories we had about real Satoshi's identity on this forum.
At least Satoshi proved to be smart until now and stay anonymous and obviously there is no reason for him to show up his face in the public.
Probably Satoshi is not just one single man but whole organization but it doesn't matter really.
Enjoy your bitcoin, spread the great news and enjoy the ride!
Don't bother yourself with the questions to which there is no answer.

I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so, and that is why we should focus on the issues that we have more info (in more productive ways). if such an opinion is stupid to you, it's okay, I can live with that.
Of course, you can do whatever you want and still research about Satoshi, but please be polite to others who don't think like you.

I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so ........

Decentralized Currency Issuers May Still Require License - The first draft of the BitLicense stated that, “controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency” qualifies as Virtual Currency Business Activity subject to licensing. This remains unchanged in the new draft, and that’s unfortunate.

The upcoming Bitlicense contains a clause that says this.

"Decentralized Currency Issuers May Still Require License - The first draft of the BitLicense stated that, “controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency” qualifies as Virtual Currency Business Activity subject to licensing. This remains unchanged in the new draft, and that’s unfortunate."
https://coincenter.org/2015/02/our-initial-thoughts-on-new-yorks-revised-bitlicense-proposal/

If Satoshi was still the active Bitcoin dev that would mean he would be controlling and administering a Virtual Currency. That would qualify as performing a Virtual Currency Business Activity and be subject to licensing. I'm not sure what the license would cost or involve, but it doesn't sound fun to me.

Whether he's a person, or a secret government project, he/it would still require a license.

Yeah, but that applies for the United States right?
From what we know Satoshi was in the UK (which will probably follow U.S example but anyway).
I am saying that based on the coinbase message he put in the genesis block.

I didn't say stupid, I said dumb - it's a much lighter/friendlier version  ;)
That being said, I apologize if I offended you.  :)

Now, are you not the least bit curious as to who Satoshi is and more importantly why do they insist on keeping all the coins they mined?
If the answer is No, then you are lying.
You know how I know that?
Because if you didn't then you wouldn't even bother with this thread  ;)

What evidence?
All we have are his posts in this forum.

Which brings me to this question:
Why didn't he delete them before he disappeared?

Probably because there is nothing to identify him, but still.....

Obviously I agree with your later point, you're preaching to the choir.
In regard to flaws (and/or weaknesses), since nothing is perfect, here you go.

• http://gavinandresen.ninja/utxo-uhoh
• http://gavinandresen.ninja/time-to-roll-out-bigger-blocks
• http://hashingit.com/analysis/34-bitcoin-traffic-bulletin
• http://time.com/3689359/bitcoins-track-anonymous/
• https://github.com/bitcoin/bips
• https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses

Hmm interesting 'flaws' but bitcoin is still better (100 times more) than the actual economic system based on banks and FIAT currencies. An human cannot create something 100% perfect (this is obvious) but maybe he can reaches 99% (and remember this is still an experiment).

3. If Bitcoin had been created by a so powerful organization ( like NSA ) , at this point, after 6 years, it would be much more popular and adopted all over the world. They would set up a majestic media campaign or even force people to use Bitcoin. Nothing of it happens so I think your theory is quite improbable.

What is the use of voting? We know that the machines of both parties are subsidized by the same persons, and therefore it is useless to turn in either direction.

The best way to control the opposition is to lead it.

Hmm interesting 'flaws' but bitcoin is still better (100 times more) than the actual economic system based on banks and FIAT currencies. An human cannot create something 100% perfect (this is obvious) but maybe he can reaches 99% (and remember this is still an experiment).

Agreed the inflationary tactics of banks is what causes the boom and bust cycle.

Ancient Babylonian trading markets were as volatile as our own, says an economic historian. Prices of agricultural goods in the city fluctuated hugely, and the death of Alexander the Great triggered two decades of economic instability^{1 (http://www.nature.com/news/1998/020101/full/news020101-9.html#B1)}.

And the predictable cover-up attempts begin! Just more proof that I'm onto something they don't want people to know about.

Check this out:

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=satoshi+nakamoto&t=1000

Sorry if someone posted it already, I didnt read the middle 2 pages.

Here's my favorite one, which lets me know for sure it was the Freemasons and not the NSA:

Aha Masons It Took

And the predictable cover-up attempts begin! Just more proof that I'm onto something they don't want people to know about.

Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

A terrifying and apocalyptic scenario could be that NSA ( or some other "big brother" ) created Bitcoin to set up a new global currency in order to associate every address to every person in the world, just to easily control every single transaction of every single user in the world ( 'cause we all know Bitcoin transaction are public ).


In my opinion everything is possible, but this scenario is highly unrealistic. This for 3 main reasons:

1. Bitcoin is open source.
2. Thanks to the aspect above, many developers are able to create new coins, based on Bitcoin algo. Yes, in some cases they made some changes, but the important thing is that they based their coins on BTC. In other words, if Bitcoin never existed, altcoins never existed too, no doubt 'bout it.
A relevant aspect is that Satoshi Nakamoto is still an anonymous, while several altcoins devs are well-know in the community ( like Evan Duffield for example ). So if we have some doubt on Bitcoin cause we don't know who found it, we could simply move to another cryptocoin, which ensure us more privacy are more reliance.
3. If Bitcoin had been created by a so powerful organization ( like NSA ) , at this point, after 6 years, it would be much more popular and adopted all over the world. They would set up a majestic media campaign or even force people to use Bitcoin. Nothing of it happens so I think your theory is quite improbable.

Top secret operations do not use cute little anagrams. I's not a contest that drops hints.

The correct spelling is An NSA Soma hit to KO.

The correct spelling is An NSA Soma hit to KO.