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Title: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Jeremycoin on May 16, 2015, 06:37:12 PM
I'm just curious, why is nobody uses this domain --> bitcoin.com (http://bitcoin.com)


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: HI-TEC99 on May 16, 2015, 06:42:41 PM
A who.is lookup says Roger Ver owns it, although I don't know why he doesn't use it.

https://who.is/whois/https://bitcoin.com

Domain Name: BITCOIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1371058558_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2014-05-28T09:14:14.00Z
Creation Date: 2008-01-04T14:15:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-01-04T14:15:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: Email Masking Image@enom.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: ROGER VER
Registrant Organization: WWW.MEMORYDEALERS.COM


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: unamis76 on May 16, 2015, 06:45:54 PM
Probably no use for it? :) They've got to use it for something big...


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: moni3z on May 17, 2015, 12:44:28 AM
domain squatting probably wanting to lease it to somebody for enormous $


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Vod on May 17, 2015, 02:31:28 AM
domain squatting probably wanting to lease it to somebody for enormous $

Still, while he is waiting he could do a revenue sharing agreement where someone else builds the website and they share the income.

This is like letting a nice house sit vacant while trying to sell it, instead of having renters in there.   :-\


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Slark on May 17, 2015, 02:36:58 AM
domain squatting probably wanting to lease it to somebody for enormous $

Still, while he is waiting he could do a revenue sharing agreement where someone else builds the website and they share the income.

This is like letting a nice house sit vacant while trying to sell it, instead of having renters in there.   :-\
Some people are rich enough that they do as they please. Maybe he doesn't want this domain to be used and he is rich enough or doesn't care about the money he can gain from it.
 


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: celestio on May 17, 2015, 02:56:03 AM
That's weird, there was a website on there for the longest time.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: moni3z on May 17, 2015, 02:56:36 AM
domain squatting probably wanting to lease it to somebody for enormous $

Still, while he is waiting he could do a revenue sharing agreement where someone else builds the website and they share the income.

This is like letting a nice house sit vacant while trying to sell it, instead of having renters in there.   :-\

Apparently Blockchain owns it http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/04/17/blockchain-buys-bitcoin-com-domain-name/ weird they do nothing with it

Edit: they merely leased it for 5 years from whoever orig owns it, I assume Roger Ver.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: MicroGuy on May 17, 2015, 03:19:27 AM
Maybe he would consider redirecting it to bitcoin.org while the domain is not in use?

That would seem to be more beneficial to the currency than a dead domain.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Troonetpt on May 17, 2015, 03:38:09 AM
I guess he just wait the right time to use it, or just want to sell someone who need it with a good price.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: okae on May 17, 2015, 08:53:55 AM
Whats the sense to buy that domain and dont use it?, just waiting to made some real&huge profit with it in a near future? dunno.

Maybe he would consider redirecting it to bitcoin.org while the domain is not in use?

That would seem to be more beneficial to the currency than a dead domain.

agree with you 100%, if he love this community and the BTC world he should do something about it,also doing something with it is like helping to himselft ( if his purpose is to sold it later ) so i cant understand why the domain is not used atm.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: franky1 on May 17, 2015, 09:03:52 AM
it was originally bought simply to preserve the bitcoin community and to stop scammers buying up the name and placing fake information on it or trying to extort the community.

imagine if the bank of england/bank of america bought it instead of a bitcoin community member.. imagine the propaganda the banks would write on the website to talk people out of investing in bitcoin. highlighting things like volatility and darkweb usage, etc.

im glad the majority of main bitcoin branding is in the hands of the community members


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: HI-TEC99 on May 17, 2015, 09:14:53 AM
it was originally bought simply to preserve the bitcoin community and to stop scammers buying up the name and placing fake information on it or trying to extort the community.

imagine if the bank of england/bank of america bought it instead of a bitcoin community member.. imagine the propaganda the banks would write on the website to talk people out of investing in bitcoin. highlighting things like volatility and darkweb usage, etc.

im glad the majority of main bitcoin branding is in the hands of the community members

Has he bought all the other similar names like bitcoin.org and bitcoin.co.[insert country here]? There are surprisingly few misinformation sites at the top of the search results for those sorts of names, so they must be in safe hands.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: TheButterZone on May 17, 2015, 09:23:14 AM
If Amazon, the final frontier, ever accepts BTC and converts 0% of it to fiat (instead, paying BTC to all who previously got paid fiat), I'd probably point bitcoin.com there (or have a geo redirect so if you're in the UK you get sent from bitcoin.com to amazon.co.uk instead of amazon.com - unless amazon.com itself already redirects like that).


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: trafficolaa on May 17, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
bitcoin.com is not necessary to use it, why we need to use that domain when everything working perfect as we are growing as nice community, i dont think that domain can help to skyrocket the growth so discussion about this is just feed the trolls.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: SpanishSoldier on May 17, 2015, 09:34:51 AM
That's weird, there was a website on there for the longest time.

The latest snapshot is from April 8th.

http://web.archive.org/web/20150408221825/http://www.bitcoin.com/

I think they are down for maintenance.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: shulio on May 17, 2015, 09:35:14 AM
it was originally bought simply to preserve the bitcoin community and to stop scammers buying up the name and placing fake information on it or trying to extort the community.

imagine if the bank of england/bank of america bought it instead of a bitcoin community member.. imagine the propaganda the banks would write on the website to talk people out of investing in bitcoin. highlighting things like volatility and darkweb usage, etc.

im glad the majority of main bitcoin branding is in the hands of the community members

Do you have any sources where I can read on this ? Bad thing about it is that the domain is sitting like a useless domain there and if he decided to sell it , the price will be very high . Anyway the domain of btc.com is in the hand of the liar Josh Garza that claimed to purchase it over 1 million USD


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Q7 on May 17, 2015, 10:29:20 AM
The first thing that came to my mind is how much money the guy would have made if he decided to monetize the site. I mean, the list are endless like marketplace, trading site, exchanger or even a wiki page with ads on it. But never mind, at least I'm glad that it didn't fall into the hands of a person who would misuse it.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on May 17, 2015, 11:07:20 AM
A who.is lookup says Roger Ver owns it, although I don't know why he doesn't use it.

https://who.is/whois/https://bitcoin.com

Domain Name: BITCOIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1371058558_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com



lets ask him: Roger - why  ;) ? you could do a simple website for education purpose.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: thebenjamincode on May 17, 2015, 11:23:53 AM
I'm just curious, why is nobody uses this domain --> bitcoin.com (http://bitcoin.com)

i thought i have visited this website before and something like a bitcoin tutorial was displayed there


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: coolmyrig on May 17, 2015, 12:26:57 PM
He is rich enough,no need sell it or make money with it.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: 1Referee on May 17, 2015, 03:02:39 PM
He is rich enough,no need sell it or make money with it.

Being rich doesn't mean he is not willing to make good money with it. He could get a decent amount with it if he decide to let some one lease it.

Same with btc.com from gaw, some one leased it till 2018. Great way of generating income out of nothing.

A lot high quality domains have not being used for years and years. Which is a shame, they could have made thousands with it.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: goosoodude on May 17, 2015, 03:43:38 PM
it was originally bought simply to preserve the bitcoin community and to stop scammers buying up the name and placing fake information on it or trying to extort the community.
I would agree with this, especially the part about a scammer buying the domain to be used for scamming purposes. There are a huge number of scam websites out there and someone could potentially scam for huge amounts of money if they were to own a domain like bitcoin.com. There are already enough scam sites that impersonate legit sites (like sites that pretend to be blockchain.info).

My guess is that bc.i doesn't want to have bitcoin.com redirect to bc.i to avoid creating a precedent of other domains being legit mirrors of their own site. They are probably waiting to come up with a new business venture and host it there


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Amph on May 17, 2015, 05:48:36 PM
But he may try to sell his domain name, he can sell it lot of money i think.

he should have sold it at the 1200 peak then...two thing, he don't want to sell it, because he is waiting for bitcoin to become big, or he is simply waiting for a more better price than a mere 1200

it was originally bought simply to preserve the bitcoin community and to stop scammers buying up the name and placing fake information on it or trying to extort the community.

still the question stand, why he is not using it?


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Jeremycoin on May 17, 2015, 09:39:08 PM
I'm just curious, why is nobody uses this domain --> bitcoin.com (http://bitcoin.com)

i thought i have visited this website before and something like a bitcoin tutorial was displayed there

Do you mean, this one --> https://bitcoin.org/en/ or this one https://www.weusecoins.com/ ?


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: HI-TEC99 on May 17, 2015, 10:03:03 PM
I'm just curious, why is nobody uses this domain --> bitcoin.com (http://bitcoin.com)

i thought i have visited this website before and something like a bitcoin tutorial was displayed there

Do you mean, this one --> https://bitcoin.org/en/ or this one https://www.weusecoins.com/ ?


I read https://bitcoin.org/en/ when I first started learning about bitcoin, and the one thing I really wanted to know that it didn't tell me was how and where to buy them. There might be a difficult to find link to an exchange on the site, but if there is I couldn't find it.

http://bitcoin.com shows on the first page of results for a Google of "bitcoin", but I don't know why because the link leads nowhere.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: MemoryDealers on May 18, 2015, 06:53:20 AM
Hi everyone,
OKCoin signed a 5 year contract to manage the domain.
There are about 4.5 years left in that contract, but I'm not sure what their current intent is.

Hopefully a much better website will be coming soon.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: ObscureBean on May 18, 2015, 11:11:54 AM
Selling this domain name now would be a mistake IMO and the guy who owns it probably thinks the same. Especially if he bought it for dirt cheap. Bitcoin is still in its infancy, once it's properly integrated society, this domain name could be worth 1000 times what it's worth now.

LOL just noticed, the post above me is from the guy who owns the domain name ??  :o


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: sgk on May 18, 2015, 11:45:22 AM
Maybe he would consider redirecting it to bitcoin.org while the domain is not in use?

That would seem to be more beneficial to the currency than a dead domain.

For me, bitcoin.com domain is already re-directing to:
https://bitcoin.org/en/

I'm sure it must not be only me, though?


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: 1Referee on May 18, 2015, 12:13:57 PM
Maybe he would consider redirecting it to bitcoin.org while the domain is not in use?

That would seem to be more beneficial to the currency than a dead domain.

For me, bitcoin.com domain is already re-directing to:
https://bitcoin.org/en/

I'm sure it must not be only me, though?

It is now redirecting to bitcoin.org, it wasn't like this yesterday. Perhaps the owner Mr Ver has changed it due to this thread  :)


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Cruxer on May 18, 2015, 12:36:38 PM
wanting to lease it to somebody for enormous $
Probably as above, time will tell what will happen with this domain. Currently it points to bitcoin.org so its ok :)


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: HI-TEC99 on May 18, 2015, 03:52:20 PM
Maybe he would consider redirecting it to bitcoin.org while the domain is not in use?

That would seem to be more beneficial to the currency than a dead domain.

For me, bitcoin.com domain is already re-directing to:
https://bitcoin.org/en/

I'm sure it must not be only me, though?

Not for me, I get a page not found error from bitcoin.com

I Googled for "bitcoin" yesterday and bitcoin.com was on the first page of results. Strangely, I Googled for it again today and it doesn't show up in the first two pages of results. Perhaps someone important noticed our discussion and decided to change things.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: randy8777 on May 18, 2015, 04:31:48 PM
this domain is indeed pointed at the official bitcoin website. it doesn't make much difference as everyone knows the official site has a .org extention.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: MemoryDealers on May 19, 2015, 01:01:04 AM
this domain is indeed pointed at the official bitcoin website. it doesn't make much difference as everyone knows the official site has a .org extention.

That is true for all of us,  but new people don't know.
Bitcoin.com gets tens of thousands of unique visitors each month from people who don't know anything yet,  so they go to Bitcoin.com because they figure that must be the official website for the official Bitcoin company.



Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: celestio on May 19, 2015, 01:13:57 PM
bitcoin.com is the most valuable, then comes bitcoin.org, bitcoin.net, bitcoins.com, bitcoins.org, and bitcoins.net. Everything after that is nothing.

But yea, the amount of traffic going to bitcoin.com must be huge.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: turvarya on May 19, 2015, 01:41:36 PM
this domain is indeed pointed at the official bitcoin website. it doesn't make much difference as everyone knows the official site has a .org extention.

That is true for all of us,  but new people don't know.
Bitcoin.com gets tens of thousands of unique visitors each month from people who don't know anything yet,  so they go to Bitcoin.com because they figure that must be the official website for the official Bitcoin company.


lol

I wondered if people are doing that: Hearing about some thingy and than just type somethingy.com in their browser to learn about it.
Obviously they do. Haven't they heard about google?


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Jeremycoin on May 19, 2015, 01:45:56 PM
this domain is indeed pointed at the official bitcoin website. it doesn't make much difference as everyone knows the official site has a .org extention.

That is true for all of us,  but new people don't know.
Bitcoin.com gets tens of thousands of unique visitors each month from people who don't know anything yet,  so they go to Bitcoin.com because they figure that must be the official website for the official Bitcoin company.


lol

I wondered if people are doing that: Hearing about some thingy and than just type somethingy.com in their browser to learn about it.
Obviously they do. Haven't they heard about google?

Can the owner of the domain get some earnings from that visitors? ;D


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: QuestionAuthority on May 19, 2015, 02:01:06 PM
this domain is indeed pointed at the official bitcoin website. it doesn't make much difference as everyone knows the official site has a .org extention.

That is true for all of us,  but new people don't know.
Bitcoin.com gets tens of thousands of unique visitors each month from people who don't know anything yet,  so they go to Bitcoin.com because they figure that must be the official website for the official Bitcoin company.


lol

I wondered if people are doing that: Hearing about some thingy and than just type somethingy.com in their browser to learn about it.
Obviously they do. Haven't they heard about google?

Can the owner of the domain get some earnings from that visitors? ;D

You people do realize that when you talk to MemoryDealers you are talking to Roger Ver, right? LOL

You are hearing directly from the owner of Bitcoin.com. ROFL

/thread


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Angelina Jolie on May 26, 2015, 11:36:44 PM
Hi everyone,
OKCoin signed a 5 year contract to manage the domain.
There are about 4.5 years left in that contract, but I'm not sure what their current intent is.

Hopefully a much better website will be coming soon.

Looking at the versions that you and Star Xu have posted, it seems like both of you are correct indeed. Changpen Zhao has probably played the trick in between.

So, someone has already got the contract to build a new website ? For now, as I can see, it is going to blockchain.info new wallet page.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: EternalWingsofGod on May 26, 2015, 11:51:07 PM
I see a redirection to blockchain.info to create a new wallet like Angelina
I'm assuming that OKpay put a redirect for a while when they build the site it's a step up from a dead url at least.
At least new bitcoin users will know where to go to create a bitcoin wallet


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: sgk on May 27, 2015, 05:02:31 AM
There is an ongoing dispute between Roger Ver and OKCoin over Bitcoin.com Domain Name:

http://www.coindesk.com/roger-ver-and-okcoin-at-war-over-bitcoin-com-domain-name/


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Jeremycoin on May 27, 2015, 05:08:53 AM
There is an ongoing dispute between Roger Ver and OKCoin over Bitcoin.com Domain Name:

http://www.coindesk.com/roger-ver-and-okcoin-at-war-over-bitcoin-com-domain-name/
Quote
Under the agreement, OKCoin was set to redesign the site and pay Ver a percentage of the revenue generated each month, with a minimum of $10,000 per month.
10,000 :o What kind of site he want to build?


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: lithiumc on May 27, 2015, 05:19:52 AM
does it really matter  ?


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: AGD on May 27, 2015, 05:52:19 AM
Is it just a coincidence, that one random dude (OP) asks about bitcoin.com and at about the same time there starts a fight Roger Ver vs. OKCoin for this domain?


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: NorrisK on May 27, 2015, 06:04:18 AM
I'm just curious, why is nobody uses this domain --> bitcoin.com (http://bitcoin.com)

i thought i have visited this website before and something like a bitcoin tutorial was displayed there

That is something that actaully should be on a website like that.. Or maybe some youtube videos or links to some big bitcoin forums.

Leaving it like this is a waisted opportunity. Although, people will probably use google to find stuff anyway, not just randomly typing in urls.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: Light on May 27, 2015, 06:12:54 AM
Because Roger Ver doesn't have a use for it at the moment. His best bet is just to sit on it and wait, so that in the long term - if Bitcoin gains more attention and acceptance then he can sell it to a business for a sizeable amount of money. You could see with the OKCoin fiasco that he was willing to lend it out for $120K a year - just that no one else is willing to pay enough for him to bother reaching a similar agreement with anyone else.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: sgk on May 27, 2015, 11:25:28 AM
10,000 :o What kind of site he want to build?

The idea was to create an informative website about Bitcoin that can guide new users, at the same time generate revenue from advertising.
But still $10,000 a month is certainly NOT a conservative estimate.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: maheshmahi on May 27, 2015, 11:45:43 AM
That domain may b down...dis community is better than that


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: sgk on May 28, 2015, 07:18:52 AM
Interestingly, the domain now redirects to https://bitcoinmagazine.com/
(Few days ago it was being redirected to bitcoin.org)


That domain may b down...dis community is better than that
Did you even read the thread or OP? It is not about the domain being down. It is about why no content is hosted on this domain.


Title: Re: Why is no one uses bitcoin.com
Post by: EternalWingsofGod on May 28, 2015, 07:24:33 AM
Is it just a coincidence, that one random dude (OP) asks about bitcoin.com and at about the same time there starts a fight Roger Ver vs. OKCoin for this domain?

Perhaps it could be a way to boost traffic to the website to justify the $10,000 a month price agreement he had with OKCoin to future buyers nothing like proof the domain is a premier investment.

Interestingly, the domain now redirects to https://bitcoinmagazine.com/
(Few days ago it was being redirected to bitcoin.org)

That is interesting since yesterday it was redirecting to creating a new blockchain wallet, well if he really got bored he could sell it as a rotator site with it redirecting to a new site every week for a fee.