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Title: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: (oYo) on May 19, 2015, 06:27:39 AM Autonomous vehicles are going to lay waste to employment of drivers very soon. As more and more jobs are eliminated by automation we are left with higher unemployment. If humanity doesn't evolve to the point where jobs are no longer a necessity for survival, we will soon find ourselves with a largely underemployed population with no means to support itself and no alternative plan to address this trend.
https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/735/1*FAOTYaCoYpUhjiAe3sjofA.png Quote It should be clear at a glance just how dependent the American economy is on truck drivers. According to the American Trucker Association, there are 3.5 million professional truck drivers in the US, and an additional 5.2 million people employed within the truck-driving industry who don’t drive the trucks. That’s 8.7 million trucking-related jobs. We can’t stop there though, because the incomes received by these 8.2 million people create the jobs of others. Those 3.5 million truck drivers driving all over the country stop regularly to eat, drink, rest, and sleep. Entire businesses have been built around serving their wants and needs. Think restaurants and motels as just two examples. So now we’re talking about millions more whose employment depends on the employment of truck drivers. But we still can’t even stop there. Those working in these restaurants and motels along truck-driving routes are also consumers within their own local economies. Think about what a server spends her paycheck and tips on in her own community, and what a motel maid spends from her earnings into the same community. That spending creates other paychecks in turn. So now we’re not only talking about millions more who depend on those who depend on truck drivers, but we’re also talking about entire small town communities full of people who depend on all of the above in more rural areas. With any amount of reduced consumer spending, these local economies will shrink. One further important detail to consider is that truck drivers are well-paid. They provide a middle class income of about $40,000 per year. That’s a higher income than just about half (46%) of all tax filers, including those of married households. They are also greatly comprised by those without college educations. Article: https://medium.com/basic-income/self-driving-trucks-are-going-to-hit-us-like-a-human-driven-truck-b8507d9c5961 YouTube video: Daimler's Self Driving Truck Nevada Worlds First Licensed Autonomous Freightliner Inspiration CARJAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdSRUG4KTPA) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: cryptocoiner on May 19, 2015, 06:29:23 AM Yep, welcome to the future.
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: jacktheking on May 19, 2015, 07:51:08 AM The future is Bitcoin. People might not work in physical but they might work virtually. Which they earn Bitcoin and spend Bitcoin. And yes, welcome to the future.
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: neoneros on May 19, 2015, 09:56:10 AM And working for virtual coins happens in the virtual space, mostly from home, so the chances you will meet with an automated driving truck are reduced to nearly zero, so the chance of you getting hit by one even moreso. There is a lot of fear of self driving vehicels. There was an automated self driving bus in Eindhoven over ten years ago, people did not want to get in if there was no driver at the driver seat, so there was a 'dummy' driver appointed who sat all day at the driver seat doing nothing.
We rely on a lot of things that do not involve in-person handling anymore. We rely on servers to deliver our e-mails and do not worry the digital mailman might forget or puts it in the wrong mailbox. We should have an open view for the future and not be held back by the fear of the unknown. Most truck accidents happen when the driver works too many hours and falls asleep behind the wheel. Or when the driver ignores the height of a tunnel/bridge. Computer drivers are more accurate and less stuborn. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Falconer on May 19, 2015, 11:16:47 AM Future is an era that make our life more comfortable and safe with helping of technology
But, there is something that never been had by a computer. That is the humans sense. ;D Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 11:37:07 AM Everything in life changes. "Robots" taking away our jobs isn't really a big problem.
Ultimately, if robots did all the jobs, nobody could afford the products, and the companies would go under, leaving room for new companies that couldn't afford to buy robot workers, but could afford to pay people. If the new companies decided to rent robots, there still wouldn't be anybody to buy the products, and they would fail same as the others. This scenario probably will not happen. A happy medium will be found. There is always change. There are always companies that are downsizing while other companies are growing. There are always companies laying people off while others are hiring. It has been happening since people hired others to work for them, and it will probably continue to happen. The only thing robots will do is to change the way it happens a little. No fun for the people it happens to, but opportunity for others. :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: erikalui on May 19, 2015, 12:04:53 PM The world needs to progress and we need to move on. There were people who were against the use of computers as well as it would lead to unemployment and many other factors but still the world has accepted it as a positive change. Similarly self driven cars might help to reduce the number of accidents and would be safer for people to cross the roads.
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 12:09:54 PM The world needs to progress and we need to move on. There were people who were against the use of computers as well as it would lead to unemployment and many other factors but still the world has accepted it as a positive change. Similarly self driven cars might help to reduce the number of accidents and would be safer for people to cross the roads. Think of all the squirrels, rabbits and skunks that would live. :D Think of all the crushed product every time the truck slams on its brakes for squirrels, rabbits and skunks. ;D Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Wonka on May 19, 2015, 12:24:59 PM Most unskilled jobs will be eradicated in the future, that's why people will need to evolve themselves and learn more crafts or trades. Soon we arent going to need delivery men or warehouse pickers/packers/sorters because it can all be done via machines. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing but people need to move with the times.
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: erikalui on May 19, 2015, 12:39:10 PM The world needs to progress and we need to move on. There were people who were against the use of computers as well as it would lead to unemployment and many other factors but still the world has accepted it as a positive change. Similarly self driven cars might help to reduce the number of accidents and would be safer for people to cross the roads. Think of all the squirrels, rabbits and skunks that would live. :D Think of all the crushed product every time the truck slams on its brakes for squirrels, rabbits and skunks. ;D I haven't seen any truck driver applying brakes for any squirrel, rabbit or skunk. In fact, I have seen them crushing down animals who run across the streets. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: neoneros on May 19, 2015, 02:55:35 PM in the utopian future, all labor will be done by the robots and computers. All will be provided for the people, the machines will run the world and the man will be pampered. Men can do things they like, go sporting all day, draw, paint, write, sleep, bingewatch the world happening from their couch. The world would be in a status quo and boring as hell, the human mind going in extremes to get statisfaction and enough resources to comply, just watch out for robocop, we have ten seconds to comply ;D
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: gentlemand on May 19, 2015, 03:22:20 PM in the utopian future, all labor will be done by the robots and computers. All will be provided for the people, the machines will run the world and the man will be pampered. Men can do things they like, go sporting all day, draw, paint, write, sleep, bingewatch the world happening from their couch. We've been promised endless leisure since somewhere around the 1950s and look at the state of the working world now. Something will have to give eventually or maybe the future of the world economy will involve nothing but selling increasingly convoluted cups of coffee to each other. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 04:56:57 PM The world needs to progress and we need to move on. There were people who were against the use of computers as well as it would lead to unemployment and many other factors but still the world has accepted it as a positive change. Similarly self driven cars might help to reduce the number of accidents and would be safer for people to cross the roads. Think of all the squirrels, rabbits and skunks that would live. :D Think of all the crushed product every time the truck slams on its brakes for squirrels, rabbits and skunks. ;D I haven't seen any truck driver applying brakes for any squirrel, rabbit or skunk. In fact, I have seen them crushing down animals who run across the streets. Trucks usually are there to carry products for people. If trucks slam on the breaks to keep from crushing an animal, often the product is damaged in the back part of the truck. Sometimes trucks roll over and are damaged making it so that the truck owner has to pay lots of money to get them fixed. It is good to crush little animals that run out into the road, just to save the product in the trucks from getting damaged. When you grow up, perhaps you could start a school for animals where you would teach them to look both ways. Robot trucks might stop for the animals, thereby damaging the product and the robot trucks. Good thing human drivers understand that it is best to crush the animals. :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: erikalui on May 19, 2015, 05:08:22 PM Trucks usually are there to carry products for people. If trucks slam on the breaks to keep from crushing an animal, often the product is damaged in the back part of the truck. Sometimes trucks roll over and are damaged making it so that the truck owner has to pay lots of money to get them fixed. It is good to crush little animals that run out into the road, just to save the product in the trucks from getting damaged. When you grow up, perhaps you could start a school for animals where you would teach them to look both ways. Robot trucks might stop for the animals, thereby damaging the product and the robot trucks. Good thing human drivers understand that it is best to crush the animals. :) You're so inhuman. You don't mind a life being lost but are worried about the expenses it will cost you. Have you ever run down an animal/human in your life and hence you are supporting it? I'm shocked and saddened the way you think animals should be killed. The more people like you will say such things, the more people like me will pray for the life of animals and the end of this damn world. Inhumanity sucks. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 05:15:24 PM Trucks usually are there to carry products for people. If trucks slam on the breaks to keep from crushing an animal, often the product is damaged in the back part of the truck. Sometimes trucks roll over and are damaged making it so that the truck owner has to pay lots of money to get them fixed. It is good to crush little animals that run out into the road, just to save the product in the trucks from getting damaged. When you grow up, perhaps you could start a school for animals where you would teach them to look both ways. Robot trucks might stop for the animals, thereby damaging the product and the robot trucks. Good thing human drivers understand that it is best to crush the animals. :) You're so inhuman. You don't mind a life being lost but are worried about the expenses it will cost you. Have you ever run down an animal/human in your life and hence you are supporting it? I'm shocked and saddened the way you think animals should be killed. The more people like you will say such things, the more people like me will pray for the life of animals and the end of this damn world. Inhumanity sucks. This isn't inhumane. It's practical. Go start your animal school. :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: gentlemand on May 19, 2015, 05:15:30 PM You're so inhuman. You don't mind a life being lost but are worried about the expenses it will cost you. Have you ever run down an animal/human in your life and hence you are supporting it? I'm shocked and saddened the way you think animals should be killed. The more people like you will say such things, the more people like me will pray for the life of animals and the end of this damn world. Inhumanity sucks. I'm not so worried about goods, but my own safety and the safety of other people on the road is more important than any animal that strays into my path. When I was a nipper we used to take an hour-long bus journey to school through pheasant shooting country (so they were dead meat anyway). One particular driver thought nothing of risking 40 little lives to avoid one pheasant that was dumb enough to stray into the road. He would slam on the brakes, veer everywhere and throw people all over the bus. Eventually he was fired after one near calamity too many. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 05:21:11 PM You're so inhuman. You don't mind a life being lost but are worried about the expenses it will cost you. Have you ever run down an animal/human in your life and hence you are supporting it? I'm shocked and saddened the way you think animals should be killed. The more people like you will say such things, the more people like me will pray for the life of animals and the end of this damn world. Inhumanity sucks. I'm not so worried about goods, but my own safety and the safety of other people on the road is more important than any animal that strays into my path. When I was a nipper we used to take an hour-long bus journey to school through pheasant shooting country (so they were dead meat anyway). One particular driver thought nothing of risking 40 little lives to avoid one pheasant that was dumb enough to stray into the road. He would slam on the brakes, veer everywhere and throw people all over the bus. Eventually he was fired after one near calamity too many. We need to remember that erikalui is a little girl. She might be a young teenager, but maybe not even that old. She is here to learn about life. I don't understand why her parents allowed her into this forum, where you can find just about anything that you want. I'd break my kids in a little easier than that. :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: erikalui on May 19, 2015, 05:46:58 PM You're so inhuman. You don't mind a life being lost but are worried about the expenses it will cost you. Have you ever run down an animal/human in your life and hence you are supporting it? I'm shocked and saddened the way you think animals should be killed. The more people like you will say such things, the more people like me will pray for the life of animals and the end of this damn world. Inhumanity sucks. I'm not so worried about goods, but my own safety and the safety of other people on the road is more important than any animal that strays into my path. When I was a nipper we used to take an hour-long bus journey to school through pheasant shooting country (so they were dead meat anyway). One particular driver thought nothing of risking 40 little lives to avoid one pheasant that was dumb enough to stray into the road. He would slam on the brakes, veer everywhere and throw people all over the bus. Eventually he was fired after one near calamity too many. We need to remember that erikalui is a little girl. She might be a young teenager, but maybe not even that old. She is here to learn about life. I don't understand why her parents allowed her into this forum, where you can find just about anything that you want. I'd break my kids in a little easier than that. :) And I care about animals more than humans. Animals are innocent and they have a right to live rather than humans who have a brain and can think evil. If I have to chose between saving a human/animal, I'll try to save both but not crush an animal to save the other. @bold: Why do you want me to leave this forum? Because I don't appreciate your inhuman thoughts and with the fact that you prefer to kill animals? I'm proud that I don't think so low. That's because of my parents and I'm proud of their upbringing. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 06:04:53 PM You're so inhuman. You don't mind a life being lost but are worried about the expenses it will cost you. Have you ever run down an animal/human in your life and hence you are supporting it? I'm shocked and saddened the way you think animals should be killed. The more people like you will say such things, the more people like me will pray for the life of animals and the end of this damn world. Inhumanity sucks. I'm not so worried about goods, but my own safety and the safety of other people on the road is more important than any animal that strays into my path. When I was a nipper we used to take an hour-long bus journey to school through pheasant shooting country (so they were dead meat anyway). One particular driver thought nothing of risking 40 little lives to avoid one pheasant that was dumb enough to stray into the road. He would slam on the brakes, veer everywhere and throw people all over the bus. Eventually he was fired after one near calamity too many. We need to remember that erikalui is a little girl. She might be a young teenager, but maybe not even that old. She is here to learn about life. I don't understand why her parents allowed her into this forum, where you can find just about anything that you want. I'd break my kids in a little easier than that. :) And I care about animals more than humans. Animals are innocent and they have a right to live rather than humans who have a brain and can think evil. If I have to chose between saving a human/animal, I'll try to save both but not crush an animal to save the other. @bold: Why do you want me to leave this forum? Because I don't appreciate your inhuman thoughts and with the fact that you prefer to kill animals? I'm proud that I don't think so low. That's because of my parents and I'm proud of their upbringing. What makes you think that I want you to do anything, either leave this forum or not, or anything else for that matter? Animals were given to people, by God, as property of people. While mankind is not supposed to intentionally torture animals, he also has the right to do with them as he wishes if he is their owner. Now watch this. You want people to be under animals. Because you want this, you place yourself under the animals. And God has given you the right to do that if you really want. God also has given people the authority over animals. So, the thing that you are doing is placing yourself under animals, under other people. Do you really want to be a slave to other people that badly, just like the animals are? :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: erikalui on May 19, 2015, 06:22:10 PM What makes you think that I want you to do anything, either leave this forum or not, or anything else for that matter? Animals were given to people, by God, as property of people. While mankind is not supposed to intentionally torture animals, he also has the right to do with them as he wishes if he is their owner. Now watch this. You want people to be under animals. Because you want this, you place yourself under the animals. And God has given you the right to do that if you really want. God also has given people the authority over animals. So, the thing that you are doing is placing yourself under animals, under other people. Do you really want to be a slave to other people that badly, just like the animals are? :) @bold: Definitely it's a yes. I would love being an animal rather than a human. Humans rape, murder, rob and are selfish compared to animals who harm humans when they feel a danger. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: jaysabi on May 19, 2015, 06:26:53 PM Autonomous vehicles are going to lay waste to employment of drivers very soon. As more and more jobs are eliminated by automation we are left with higher unemployment. If humanity doesn't evolve to the point where jobs are no longer a necessity for survival, we will soon find ourselves with a largely underemployed population with no means to support itself and no alternative plan to address this trend. This is really the truth. I don't think necessarily that automation is a bad thing; in fact it's been very beneficial. But I do wonder if there's a point where the detriments overcome the benefits. There has to be a point where the displacement of so many workers drags the economy down, and where they cannot simply be reallocated to other sectors of the economy, either for lack of specific skills or lack of utility (in that there just isn't a need for so many workers anymore). That latter scenario is what is truly frightening. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Skeksis on May 19, 2015, 07:01:04 PM For some reason I just think it's going to be a long time before these self-driving cars are safe to use. Maybe in the distant future where every car is automated but I think they're going to cause more accidents than humans.
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Jawguy on May 19, 2015, 07:15:52 PM I think that it will happen sometimes (self-driving hitting us), but I think it will happen less than with the human drivers.
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: gentlemand on May 19, 2015, 07:18:32 PM I think that it will happen sometimes (self-driving hitting us), but I think it will happen less than with the human drivers. I hope it never happens. If it does then it's going to open up a whole new world of legal pain. Who would be responsible? The GPS provider? The manufacturer of the car? The local authority if there was something wrong with the road surface? I wonder. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 08:24:05 PM What makes you think that I want you to do anything, either leave this forum or not, or anything else for that matter? Animals were given to people, by God, as property of people. While mankind is not supposed to intentionally torture animals, he also has the right to do with them as he wishes if he is their owner. Now watch this. You want people to be under animals. Because you want this, you place yourself under the animals. And God has given you the right to do that if you really want. God also has given people the authority over animals. So, the thing that you are doing is placing yourself under animals, under other people. Do you really want to be a slave to other people that badly, just like the animals are? :) @bold: Definitely it's a yes. I would love being an animal rather than a human. Humans rape, murder, rob and are selfish compared to animals who harm humans when they feel a danger. You need to go back to school. Animals do all this stuff, as well. It's just that people are smarter in the ways that they go about it. Be a slave if you want. But look it over in detail before you make your final decision. Check out the slavery that Islamic women are in, in the Middle East. Check out the slavery in Morocco, Western Sahara and Mauritania. Once you have a clear picture, come back and tell us that you want to be a slave of other people. :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: erikalui on May 19, 2015, 08:47:34 PM You need to go back to school. Animals do all this stuff, as well. It's just that people are smarter in the ways that they go about it. Be a slave if you want. But look it over in detail before you make your final decision. Check out the slavery that Islamic women are in, in the Middle East. Check out the slavery in Morocco, Western Sahara and Mauritania. Once you have a clear picture, come back and tell us that you want to be a slave of other people. :) I am a Graduate and I haven't learnt to run down over animals in my school/college/university. Where did you learn this from? In my country, killing animals is a crime and if you crush them down, you'll be arrested (most probably). What has slavery got to do with this? You just asked me whose life is better and I said that of animals. It's humans to make make others slaves and not animals. Anyways, this discussion is about self driving trucks and not about crushing down animals or being a slave. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 09:00:52 PM You need to go back to school. Animals do all this stuff, as well. It's just that people are smarter in the ways that they go about it. Be a slave if you want. But look it over in detail before you make your final decision. Check out the slavery that Islamic women are in, in the Middle East. Check out the slavery in Morocco, Western Sahara and Mauritania. Once you have a clear picture, come back and tell us that you want to be a slave of other people. :) I am a Graduate and I haven't learnt to run down over animals in my school/college/university. Where did you learn this from? Quote In my country, killing animals is a crime and if you crush them down, you'll be arrested (most probably). Different countries have different laws.Quote What has slavery got to do with this? You just asked me whose life is better and I said that of animals. It's humans to make make others slaves and not animals. Here's what. You said that you cared about animals more than people at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065213.msg11422085#msg11422085.You are a people, so you care more about animals than yourself. This virtually makes you a slave to animals, which are slaves to people. This makes you a slave to other people, and you said it. Is that what you really want to be? Quote Anyways, this discussion is about self driving trucks and not about crushing down animals or being a slave. Will self driving trucks stop for animals in the road? Or will they crush them down? :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: erikalui on May 19, 2015, 09:14:54 PM Here's what. You said that you cared about animals more than people at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065213.msg11422085#msg11422085. You are a people, so you care more about animals than yourself. This virtually makes you a slave to animals, which are slaves to people. This makes you a slave to other people, and you said it. Is that what you really want to be? Quote Anyways, this discussion is about self driving trucks and not about crushing down animals or being a slave. Will self driving trucks stop for animals in the road? Or will they crush them down? :) Yeah I care more for animals than humans and I also said that if I need to save either animals or humans, I would try to save both. I wouldn't crush them down for a human nor would try to protect the goods in the truck like you said. I don't get your logic about slaves again. Animals and children are innocent and when any crime takes place against them, it hurts me more than anything else. Do you really want this poor animal to be crushed down to save your goods? http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRiPOm-oRc6wqg16a_ERQNyXw2o0LyHVpgXDD_DyCW75K8JnVq6Tg I believe that self driven cars would stop for animals and humans. They are error free just like computers don't make mistakes. These self driven cars would be safe and would reduce accidents. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 09:24:21 PM Here's what. You said that you cared about animals more than people at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065213.msg11422085#msg11422085. You are a people, so you care more about animals than yourself. This virtually makes you a slave to animals, which are slaves to people. This makes you a slave to other people, and you said it. Is that what you really want to be? Quote Anyways, this discussion is about self driving trucks and not about crushing down animals or being a slave. Will self driving trucks stop for animals in the road? Or will they crush them down? :) Yeah I care more for animals than humans and I also said that if I need to save either animals or humans, I would try to save both. I wouldn't crush them down for a human nor would try to protect the goods in the truck like you said. I don't get your logic about slaves again. Animals and children are innocent and when any crime takes place against them, it hurts me more than anything else. God placed people over animals in Genesis in the Bible. If you want to place yourself under animals, then you placed yourself under people as well. Slavery. Quote Do you really want this poor animal to be crushed down to save your goods? http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRiPOm-oRc6wqg16a_ERQNyXw2o0LyHVpgXDD_DyCW75K8JnVq6Tg I believe that self driven cars would stop for animals and humans. They are error free just like computers don't make mistakes. These self driven cars would be safe and would reduce accidents. Keep your pup out of the road, and likely it won't get crushed by self driving trucks. Don't you care enough about your animals to keep them out of the road? When are you going to start your school to teach the wild animals to stay out of the roads, or at least to look both ways first? :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 19, 2015, 09:46:42 PM The world needs to progress and we need to move on. There were people who were against the use of computers as well as it would lead to unemployment and many other factors but still the world has accepted it as a positive change. Similarly self driven cars might help to reduce the number of accidents and would be safer for people to cross the roads. If the autonomous car is faulty and kills people, who will you hold responsible? Onboard CPU? Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 09:54:47 PM The world needs to progress and we need to move on. There were people who were against the use of computers as well as it would lead to unemployment and many other factors but still the world has accepted it as a positive change. Similarly self driven cars might help to reduce the number of accidents and would be safer for people to cross the roads. If the autonomous car is faulty and kills people, who will you hold responsible? Onboard CPU? This is the tough question. You might hold whomever in government who authorized their use liable. Hold him/her liable personally and collect off their bond. You will need to sit down and find out who is behind it. And you will need to be sure that the autopilot wasn't tampered with by the individual owner. I wonder how long it will take for insurance companies to decide that they will insure such vehicles. If they do, the insurance might make it prohibitive to own and drive, in the beginning. :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 19, 2015, 10:04:10 PM BADecker,
government responsibility is out of question, no official will be held criminally accountable. Ever heard about officials being jailed, because they bought non-functional armament or accessory for their country? Your idea is idealistic, though. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: criptix on May 19, 2015, 10:12:03 PM singularity will come.
the only thing that can stop it is mass extiction or something around that line (asteroids aka global killer etc. pp.) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: gogxmagog on May 19, 2015, 10:19:11 PM You only have to drive for about 10 minutes before you see someone doing something incredibly stupid behind the wheel of their car. And dont think road rage happens because someone is following the rules. road rage is all about some entitled dick head driving irresponsibly and getting frustrated with whomever might be in his way.
I don't really see how driver-less cars will be accepted. too many goons on the road who will refuse to conform. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BitBlitz on May 19, 2015, 10:52:17 PM Result: Shift in employable skills. Think of all the engineers and lawyers that will be needed to clean up after these things..
;) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: jaysabi on May 20, 2015, 01:46:18 AM Result: Shift in employable skills. Think of all the engineers and lawyers that will be needed to clean up after these things.. ;) The first question is is the type of people who would be displaced by this technology the same type who could shift to being lawyers and engineers? (My guess is the overlap of would-be truck drivers who could also be engineers or lawyers is very small.) The second question, taking for granted that the answer to number one is that truck drivers and highly educated/trained professionals are very interchangeable, is at what point are there too many engineers and lawyers for them to be productively creating value for the economy? Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 20, 2015, 02:31:10 AM BADecker, government responsibility is out of question, no official will be held criminally accountable. Ever heard about officials being jailed, because they bought non-functional armament or accessory for their country? Your idea is idealistic, though. There are two kinds of court hearings, administrative, which is equity, and man to man, which is common law. There have been a few instances reported in the news of administrative wins against government people. There have been quite a few judgments where people were awarded money for government officials doing wrong to them. You will almost never hear in the news about a person winning a common law settlement. This is because government is interested only in administrative. That's what they do... administrate. Common law isn't part of what they do. Common law is what one human does against another human. The courts don't like being left out. So they don't report common law hearings except in the way that they want. One needs to seek the people out who were involved to see what went on in these hearings. Listen to the audio recordings in the right column of http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html to hear about how to beat government people in court, beat the government in court, and beat the IRS in every way. It isn't easy, partly because we watched Perry Mason for years, and a lot of Perry was administrative law. Start now, learning, so that you are ready when it happens to you. :) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: username18333 on May 20, 2015, 04:52:48 AM Yeah I care more for animals than humans and I also said that if I need to save either animals or humans, I would try to save both. I wouldn't crush them down for a human nor would try to protect the goods in the truck like you said. I don't get your logic about slaves again. Animals and children are innocent and when any crime takes place against them, it hurts me more than anything else. Do you really want this poor animal to be crushed down to save your goods? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Yellow_mite_%28Tydeidae%29_Lorryia_formosa_2_edit.jpg/197px-Yellow_mite_%28Tydeidae%29_Lorryia_formosa_2_edit.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro-animal) I believe that self driven cars would stop for animals and humans. They are error free just like computers don't make mistakes. These self driven cars would be safe and would reduce accidents. (Fixed. ;)) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Falconer on May 20, 2015, 04:58:00 AM I'm just wondering if one day this self-driving trucks will be developed more and change human-driven truck, is there human who can drive a truck? Or if there is a self-driving cars in future, so will humans don't need to learn about how drive a car again? I'm curious ;D
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: username18333 on May 20, 2015, 05:02:24 AM I'm just wondering if one day this self-driving trucks will be developed more and change human-driven truck, is there human who can drive a truck? Or if there is a self-driving cars in future, so will humans don't need to learn about how drive a car again? I'm curious ;D Could a human, despite its lack of a cockpit, man an unmanned aerial vehicle? Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 20, 2015, 04:55:18 PM In the movie, Dr. Strangelove, didn't Slim Pickens ride the A-bomb down that started WWIII with Russia?
;D Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: solstoce on May 20, 2015, 05:18:01 PM Well we might be losing the truck drivers but that will open a new job up again... Full Service gas stations. Unless they make a robot that pumps the gas into these automated trucks :-\
Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Falconer on May 20, 2015, 05:54:35 PM Well we might be losing the truck drivers but that will open a new job up again... Full Service gas stations. Unless they make a robot that pumps the gas into these automated trucks :-\ yeah all of your work will be done by machines. you just sitting, playing, watching, eating, and sleeping. Or maybe you will get in a robot that do all of yours and you do nothing, just sit and get fat liked people in Wall-E movie. ;D Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Dick Valentine on May 20, 2015, 06:28:47 PM Well we might be losing the truck drivers but that will open a new job up again... Full Service gas stations. Unless they make a robot that pumps the gas into these automated trucks :-\ I don't think it'll be difficult to make this happen, though they'll likely be supplied with enough fuel to make the journey and get refilled at their destination. Most cars in the future will run on electricity and/or solar energy any way. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Benjig on May 20, 2015, 07:06:41 PM Well we might be losing the truck drivers but that will open a new job up again... Full Service gas stations. Unless they make a robot that pumps the gas into these automated trucks :-\ yeah all of your work will be done by machines. you just sitting, playing, watching, eating, and sleeping. Or maybe you will get in a robot that do all of yours and you do nothing, just sit and get fat liked people in Wall-E movie. ;D Sad times we are getting to... What was the population of that Wall-E Human Ship? 1-2 million.. Where is the rest? Advantage today, business, dreams, everything, every day as if it were the last. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: (oYo) on May 20, 2015, 09:09:39 PM I have no doubt self-driving vehicles will be safer than ones driven by people.
My concern is not about safety. I'm concerned about humanity as whole, once the majority of people are without jobs and have no means to support themselves. I fear we will remain ignorant, selfish and petty, rather than evolve into a society that will care enough for one another and wise enough to realize we are being manipulated. The world needs to progress and we need to move on. There were people who were against the use of computers as well as it would lead to unemployment and many other factors but still the world has accepted it as a positive change. Similarly self driven cars might help to reduce the number of accidents and would be safer for people to cross the roads. If the autonomous car is faulty and kills people, who will you hold responsible? Onboard CPU? If your faulty tires explode, who is held responsible? The tires themselves, or the company that makes them? If the cpu is found to be at fault, then the company that made it will be held responsible. If it's road conditions that caused the accident, then it's either the fault of the company responsible for road maintenance or it's simply an 'act of god'. Well we might be losing the truck drivers but that will open a new job up again... Full Service gas stations. Unless they make a robot that pumps the gas into these automated trucks :-\ Filling a tank full of gas is by far easier to automate than driving a truck. Result: Shift in employable skills. Think of all the engineers and lawyers that will be needed to clean up after these things.. ;) The first question is is the type of people who would be displaced by this technology the same type who could shift to being lawyers and engineers? (My guess is the overlap of would-be truck drivers who could also be engineers or lawyers is very small.) The second question, taking for granted that the answer to number one is that truck drivers and highly educated/trained professionals are very interchangeable, is at what point are there too many engineers and lawyers for them to be productively creating value for the economy? Exactly. Once most of the job market is automated and the masters no longer require us to slave after them, the poor and uneducated will be left to suffer and starve. In no time, we will reach their desired population of 1/2 million people (Agenda 21) and the Earth (that they nearly destroyed) will become a paradise once again. Only this time, it will be exclusively for them to enjoy, without all us "useless eaters" around wasting "their" resources and degrading the gene pool. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: BADecker on May 20, 2015, 09:18:30 PM "They" will have long destroyed the earth before any of this can happen, through chemtrails (climate control) if nothing else.
:) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 21, 2015, 11:03:14 PM singularity will come. the only thing that can stop it is mass extiction or something around that line (asteroids aka global killer etc. pp.) I am sure all of Africa and south Asia just died of laughter (unless hunger or asteroid struck them first). Fifty posts, some really smart people, good topic and all you guys can come up with is Deus ex machina. You should do better. Much, much better. Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: username18333 on May 21, 2015, 11:27:24 PM Fifty posts, some really smart people, good topic and all you guys can come up with is Deus ex machina. You should do better. Much, much better. Regardless of the (in)accuracy of your statement, this is not a theatrical composition and, therefore, is not to be critiqued as such. (That you would venture to so critique it demonstrates your contempt for the discourse here [i.e., in this thread] and a correspondingly crude attempt to derogate it.) Title: Re: Self-Driving Trucks Are Going to Hit Us Like a Human-Driven Truck Post by: criptix on June 05, 2015, 10:15:33 AM singularity will come. the only thing that can stop it is mass extiction or something around that line (asteroids aka global killer etc. pp.) I am sure all of Africa and south Asia just died of laughter (unless hunger or asteroid struck them first). Fifty posts, some really smart people, good topic and all you guys can come up with is Deus ex machina. You should do better. Much, much better. Read OP again. Understand it. Google singularity. Understand it. Because your post shows that you dont know what OP and i am talking about. Well if just half of africa and asia died from laughing now you would have solved a great problem of society. Please stop farming posts for your sig campaign with nonsense. |
