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Title: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: XinXan on May 21, 2015, 04:50:37 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: JLynn171 on May 21, 2015, 04:51:56 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

make offline paper wallets send you coin there divided into wallets with no more than 1-2BTC in each....


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: XinXan on May 21, 2015, 04:55:43 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

make offline paper wallets send you coin there divided into wallets with no more than 1-2BTC in each....

Done some research on that:

Proper paper wallets are often a very secure way of storing bitcoins, since they are not typically exposed to malware. They can also be easily stored securely in safes and safe deposit boxes. However, it may be more difficult to securely "backup" paper wallets, and due to the current sub-optimal software support, it may be easier to make a mistake that causes loss of bitcoins.

What do they mean by "a mistake can cause loss of bitcoins" as i said im not into technical details about bitcoins so i need you to explain pretty much everything XD


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: spazzdla on May 21, 2015, 05:16:54 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

make offline paper wallets send you coin there divided into wallets with no more than 1-2BTC in each....

Done some research on that:

Proper paper wallets are often a very secure way of storing bitcoins, since they are not typically exposed to malware. They can also be easily stored securely in safes and safe deposit boxes. However, it may be more difficult to securely "backup" paper wallets, and due to the current sub-optimal software support, it may be easier to make a mistake that causes loss of bitcoins.

What do they mean by "a mistake can cause loss of bitcoins" as i said im not into technical details about bitcoins so i need you to explain pretty much everything XD

It prints the private key out.  If you lose it GG you're never getting them back ever.

bitaddress.org  go there, try it out.  Run it on an offline computer for your actual wallets though.  I used that an encryped them too then gave them out to all my friends..

Backups
Backups
Backups
Backups
Backups.

I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH BACKUPS.. When people tell me they have their +20k worth of BTC on only TWO USB's.. I ask them if they like to just throw wealth away because that is what they are doing.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: fcuk on May 21, 2015, 05:34:11 PM
Get a liteclient and write the seed down. Then make many back ups of you wallet and keep the wallet.dat files offline on a usb stick and a cd-r etc. You're doubly protected then. Just make sure your computer is safe when it comes to spending them.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: Jeremycoin on May 21, 2015, 05:35:24 PM
There is actually so many threads asking about this question, but this one is recommended one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17240.0


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: MicroGuy on May 21, 2015, 05:49:41 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

Here's one way:

1. Create a paper wallet.
2. Send bitcoins to new wallet.
3. Seal wallet inside PVC pipe with rice filling.
4. Bury pipe in backyard.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: XinXan on May 21, 2015, 05:50:43 PM
There is actually so many threads asking about this question, but this one is recommended one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17240.0

That was a nice read but i still have some questions, for instance how to exactly install a bitcoin client on a cd? Doesnt it weight like a few gigabytes? And what does he mean with OS? Operating system? So do i have to install another operating system in another computer while offline and then install the bitcoin client on the cd? Its pretty confusing for me


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: MicroGuy on May 21, 2015, 05:51:37 PM
There is actually so many threads asking about this question, but this one is recommended one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17240.0

That was a nice read but i still have some questions, for instance how to exactly install a bitcoin client on a cd? Doesnt it weight like a few gigabytes? And what does he mean with OS? Operating system? So do i have to install another operating system in another computer while offline and then install the bitcoin client on the cd? Its pretty confusing for me

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TbIsdGLQov4/UpdGiEd0vtI/AAAAAAAAAgE/33k_8OcDGT0/s1600/Implanted-loop-recorder.jpg

You don't need the entire client, just the wallet.dat file. Stick it on a flash drive and put it under your mattress.

Note: Tiny flash drives can also be swallowed if moving from country to country.  8)


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: bitllionaire on May 21, 2015, 05:53:03 PM
It depends on if you want to use them and store them safely or if you only want to store them safely (cold wallet)

If you want to use a trezor is a really good option and easy
If you want to store them a paper wallet is the best option


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: RitzBitzz on May 21, 2015, 05:54:05 PM
Encrypt everything and have the password backed up somewhere safe.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: cryptworld on May 21, 2015, 06:05:06 PM
If you have a high amoutn of bitcoins you should buy a trezor, it is not difficult to use at it is highly secure


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: Amph on May 21, 2015, 06:08:18 PM
brain wallet is the best, if you can remember your entire private key, no one could steal your precious bitcoin anymore

you just need some practice to memorize it


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: WhatTheGox on May 21, 2015, 06:13:51 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

Best thing to do is split the risk and store your coins in many different ways.... especially if you are unsure what is safest.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: XinXan on May 21, 2015, 06:19:55 PM
It depends on if you want to use them and store them safely or if you only want to store them safely (cold wallet)

If you want to use a trezor is a really good option and easy
If you want to store them a paper wallet is the best option

Well i would like to store them safely but also be able to access them somewhat easily, something that doesnt involve installing a brand new os, i dont have that many bitcoins so i dont need something too complex


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on May 21, 2015, 06:23:36 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

Here's one way:

1. Create a paper wallet.
2. Send bitcoins to new wallet.
3. Seal wallet inside PVC pipe with rice filling.
4. Bury pipe in backyard.


 ;D
That's awesome man!
I personally have just printed 2 copies of each paper wallet, each paper wallet has 5 BTC in it.
One copy of each paper wallet is in a safe in my house.
The other copies are under the spare tyre in my car.
I also have some coins on Bitcoin QT & some on a hot wallet.
I feel I'm very unlikely to have an awful car crash that sets my car on fire & a house fire at the same time.
All paper wallets are encrypted with passwords I won't forget.




Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: cryptworld on May 21, 2015, 06:23:49 PM
It depends on if you want to use them and store them safely or if you only want to store them safely (cold wallet)

If you want to use a trezor is a really good option and easy
If you want to store them a paper wallet is the best option

Well i would like to store them safely but also be able to access them somewhat easily, something that doesnt involve installing a brand new os, i dont have that many bitcoins so i dont need something too complex
so,you should use a trezor
https://www.bitcointrezor.com/

or a ledger

https://www.ledgerwallet.com/


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: JLynn171 on May 21, 2015, 06:37:36 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

make offline paper wallets send you coin there divided into wallets with no more than 1-2BTC in each....

Done some research on that:

Proper paper wallets are often a very secure way of storing bitcoins, since they are not typically exposed to malware. They can also be easily stored securely in safes and safe deposit boxes. However, it may be more difficult to securely "backup" paper wallets, and due to the current sub-optimal software support, it may be easier to make a mistake that causes loss of bitcoins.

What do they mean by "a mistake can cause loss of bitcoins" as i said im not into technical details about bitcoins so i need you to explain pretty much everything XD

I once lost a phone that had a bitcoin wallet on it with no backup... lost the phone lost the bitcoin... anything like that can happen backups are best


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: Hazir on May 21, 2015, 06:40:03 PM
I think that normal Bitcoin Core wallet is sufficient to store your bitcoin as long as you are conscious person with a brain and know what you are doing.
With proper antivirus and firewall you should be fine as long as you are not owner of crazy amount of bitcoins... Then you probably need a more secure wallet.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: RappelzReborn on May 21, 2015, 06:44:25 PM
I don't think remembering your whole Private key is that possible even if it is .. you should be able to memorize it for long long time .
If you can't do then , then simply make a paper wallet , send your Bitcoins to that adress and hide that paper . and .. welll it's that simple


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: bornil267645 on May 21, 2015, 06:56:33 PM
I dont have much of a bitcoin to worry about, but one of buddy owns a lot and from what he's done, I think it is safe to put your coins into paper wallet. But don't need to go overboard like him by tattoing the butt with the keys. :P


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: bitllionaire on May 21, 2015, 07:33:46 PM
It depends on if you want to use them and store them safely or if you only want to store them safely (cold wallet)

If you want to use a trezor is a really good option and easy
If you want to store them a paper wallet is the best option

Well i would like to store them safely but also be able to access them somewhat easily, something that doesnt involve installing a brand new os, i dont have that many bitcoins so i dont need something too complex
so a trezor is the best option

You can also use a mobile phone exclusively for bitcoin wallet,having a backup in a paper,but I think trezor is the best option


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: Benjig on May 21, 2015, 07:53:28 PM
Maybe this is the safest way..
Obviously if you have many Bitcoin, just keep a low profile because if others know how much money you have, you could lose the hand or worse! your Bitcoin.
https://i.imgur.com/EehVG4n.jpg


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: XinXan on May 26, 2015, 08:12:11 AM
I dont have much of a bitcoin to worry about, but one of buddy owns a lot and from what he's done, I think it is safe to put your coins into paper wallet. But don't need to go overboard like him by tattoing the butt with the keys. :P

Haha well i dont have a lot myself either to worry too much about it but with the recent collapses of famous exchanges, this forum getting hacked and a lot of cases of people getting hacked aswell i started worrying, ive always stored my coins into different ways, a little on the exchanges and a little on my wallet.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: ScryptAsic on May 26, 2015, 08:14:46 AM
It really depends on how many coins you're storing. No point in doing a lot for something worth little value.
I'd say best it to generate keys offline and print/write out the paper wallet.
Put it in a fireproof box and lock away somewhere or put in a safety deposit box somewhere.
Coins are good but you have to be careful as the keys have been generated by others.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: Febo on May 26, 2015, 01:09:14 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

Here's one way:

1. Create a paper wallet.
2. Send bitcoins to new wallet.
3. Seal wallet inside PVC pipe with rice filling.
4. Bury pipe in backyard.


 ;D
That's awesome man!
I personally have just printed 2 copies of each paper wallet, each paper wallet has 5 BTC in it.
One copy of each paper wallet is in a safe in my house.
The other copies are under the spare tyre in my car.
I also have some coins on Bitcoin QT & some on a hot wallet.
I feel I'm very unlikely to have an awful car crash that sets my car on fire & a house fire at the same time.
All paper wallets are encrypted with passwords I won't forget.




Does anyone else know about it. and what are those encrypted passwords. What if something happen to you. Will be coins lost or not. I see many make their wallets realy safe, but dont think of what happen if they are gone.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: jjacob on May 26, 2015, 01:55:40 PM
It really depends on how many coins you're storing. No point in doing a lot for something worth little value.
I'd say best it to generate keys offline and print/write out the paper wallet.
Put it in a fireproof box and lock away somewhere or put in a safety deposit box somewhere.
Coins are good but you have to be careful as the keys have been generated by others.

Bitcoin can appreciate in value, really quickly.
No point in being lazy about security.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: Q7 on May 26, 2015, 02:03:45 PM
I would consider hardware wallets having the slight advantage and better compared to paper wallet. The built-in program by itself already has some security features and you do not need to rely on external program to create paper wallet for you. That is if you don't mind spending some amount of money to get it.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: coinableS on May 27, 2015, 12:28:42 AM
I prefer a pen and paper. Create a key using dice and save the base6 key. Then I use my offline PC to make a digital back up and put it on a USB thumb drive and store an extra copy in a safe deposit box.


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: ticoti on May 27, 2015, 12:33:10 AM
It depends on what you want to do with your bitcoins, store them or use them

I recommend trezor,it is a little bit expensive,but It's worth it


Title: Re: Best or safest way to store coins?
Post by: melody82 on May 27, 2015, 02:12:47 AM
I don't think remembering your whole Private key is that possible even if it is .. you should be able to memorize it for long long time .
If you can't do then , then simply make a paper wallet , send your Bitcoins to that adress and hide that paper . and .. welll it's that simple


Actually, it is easy believe it or not.  You can use various techniques, but my favorite is the memory palace.  Take the list of words, lets just pick a few: The Lazy Brown Fox.  Now choose a location that you are intimately familiar with, such as your childhood home.  Start at any location, say the front door.  Imagine something for "the".  I am picturing cookie monster eating a big T in front of the door.  Get the sounds and smells to if you can.  Hear the crunch, see the crumbs flying around, etc.  Now step inside the door.  I see Gilligan loafing about naked.  Don't ask me why, because I don't want to know, but that sticks for me.  Again include sounds smells etc.  In the next room imagine something for brown.  Maybe poop.  But make it memorable, such as a bucket of poo being spilled over someone you care about.  Again the smells sounds etc.  Now in the next area of the house I imagine star fox flying around and shooting things. 

You have to choose images that will work for YOU.  Some say that the nastier, funnier, stranger, more explicit, etc, the easier to remember.  I am not so sure, I think it just has to be something that will stick for YOU.  Try it and you will be surprised how much you can remember.  If you do it right then remembering a private key will seem easy.

On another note I agree that the Trezor and Leger are good options.  The Ledger has a low cost option if you can not afford the higher priced model or the trezor.