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Looks like a bank that you have no mortgage with or business with whatsoever can send men to your house, raid your home of all of its possessions and not face criminal charges:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/09/05/owners-lose-possessions-after-home-near-twentynine-palms-is-mistakenly-foreclosed/

Can any lawyers chime in here and say whether or not the bank can or will face criminal charges or is this simply going to be a civil lawsuit?

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wells-fargo-mistakes-home-neighboring-foreclosed-home/story?id=17185239#.UEwH20RaIXx

This article has more data.  Wells Fargo came back a SECOND TIME and did it again because they hired a different contractor that made the exact same mistake.  Wells Fargo is not being cooperative according to the article they are not returning the family's calls.

If American media lived in reality, Wells Fargo would be denounced as the the brains behind a burglary ring manned with "contractors" rather than soft-pedaling the crimes as mistakes.

Did anybody hear that story a little while ago about a bank that mistakingly foreclosed on the wrong house?

If I remember correctly, the couple then successfully sued the bank and the bank refused to pay up, so
they hired a company to foreclose on the bank. It was quite funny actually.

Let me see if I can dig up the article for more accurate details

Hopefully this couple will receive a multi-million dollar payout from Wells Fargo.  Perhaps the company might feel less confident raiding homes after that.


Why was this "crew" not shot in the act of trespassing and theft?

I remember that as well but no link.  They actually got to the point of a sheriffs order to take goods from the bank for auction but the bank paid then on the spot. 

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/housing/2011-06-06-foreclosure-bank-of-america_n.htm

this is the link

The answer is, of course, no. This was a mistake and the bank's representatives were acting illegally. Had the owner been home he/she could have denied entry until the sheriff came. At that time they would have figured it out. This was not the evil banks being evil, a simple mistake which the bank is responsible for fixing.

A simple mistake of breaking into someone's home and clearing out someone's private possessions twice? Really?  ::)

It's a prime example. What are you smoking?

The bank did not do this on purpose. Banks are not evil, they are heartless and act in the interest of profitability. This will cost money and the mistake was not even made by the bank. Or are you guys arguing that despite the waste of time and money the bank did this just to be mean?

The guy who killed my grandparents while drunk driving said exactly the same thing; "I didn't wreck into them on purpose".

At this point, they are. Forged documents, fraudulent methods and criminal tactics used to claim ownership of large numbers of houses while dispossessing millions of people of their homes and their livelihoods is just plain ol' evil.

Every criminal tries to blame something or someone else for their actions.

I'm not saying they are not responsible, just that this is a mistake.
IMO, There is nothing evil about harvesting and selling baby organs for a profit. The motive is profit, not producing suffering. It is awful, but I think of evil as trying to produce suffering even at your expense. The afore mentioned baby organ seller would just as gladly make funny faces for babies to enjoy if there were any money in it.
The balance to banks taking everything from us used to be government. Now they are just a wholly owned division of Wall St. It's up to us now. If you have a bank account close it and move to a credit union; if you have a credit card cancel it and stop using credit. (credit is a sin and considered evil by Christianity and Islam). Next get your credit score to "unscoreable". Unless you do these things, you are the reason that evil exists in banking.

"Mistake" implies innocence.

The bank created the condition.  The bank caused the loss.  The bank is responsible just like the drunk driver regardless of mal intent.

A bank that keeps making the same mistake more than once is either criminal or completely incompetent. There are no other options.

I was speaking hypothetically. :)

Is what you're saying that it's okay to kill a living baby and take it's heart, kidney, liver or any other part because some rich family has a sick kid they want to heal by any means possible ?

Why is the amounts involved so small ?



Seems like a lot of trouble for little money ? I liked the attitude of the attorney though. Must have been awesome to get there with the moving truck and a
moving truck and sheriff's deputies who had a judge's permission to seize the furniture if necessary.

I would've loved to see that from a first hand perspective. :)

I am playing devils advocate. But consider that you might have a baby animal killed for a pair of shoes. I don't think you hate cows or want them to suffer, and I would not call you evil for wearing leather shoes. The cows however might consider you an abomination.

Cows ≠ people.