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Title: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: newflesh on May 21, 2015, 09:21:07 PM
http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/abc_gma_porn_110514_wg.jpg


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The stash of pornography reportedly found in the hideout of Osama Bin Laden by US commandos will not be declassified released "due to the nature of their contents", an official has said.

Among the thousands of documents was what Reuters described in 2011 as a "fairly extensive porn stash".

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Brian Hale, a spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), told The Telegraph that the pornography would remain classified even as details of Bin Laden’s other personal files were released.

Also:

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The digital volume are said to have included works by Noam Chomsky and conspiracy texts about 9/11.

Really hope he wasn't fapping over Chomsky :(

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bin-laden-documents-us-officials-will-not-release-alqaeda-leaders-pornography-stash-10266992.html



Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Chef Ramsay on May 21, 2015, 10:50:52 PM
I wonder if ISIS has found out about this yet? Aren't these types supposed to look poorly on porn and all the related fetishes that lie beneath the surface? I can only imagine what kind of freaky shit he was into.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 25, 2015, 05:49:18 PM
No surprise there. Extreme prohibition only encourages illegal usage. An example is Pakistan. The government there has blocked almost all the porn sites, but still people find innovative ways to search for it. See this:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/823696/pakistan-tops-list-of-most-porn-searching-countries-google/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342217/Pakistan-internet-users-Google-searches-gay-sex-despite-worlds-homophobic-countries.html

Another example is South Korea. The "porn ban" there has turned millions to hardcore porn addicts.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: BlitzandBitz on May 25, 2015, 06:48:53 PM
I wonder if ISIS has found out about this yet? Aren't these types supposed to look poorly on porn and all the related fetishes that lie beneath the surface? I can only imagine what kind of freaky shit he was into.

ISIS is nothing but a group of goat screwers so they have their fetishes too.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Will.i.am Shakespeare on May 25, 2015, 07:03:38 PM
Is this really unsurprising? Locked up in a house 24/7 I'd be surprised if he didn't have any. Would really love to know the titles though haha. They should just leak it. Can't see why they care about keeping it hidden as you think it'd be a great annoyance to jihadis.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: solstoce on May 25, 2015, 07:26:21 PM
Thanks for the update


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: countryfree on May 25, 2015, 07:34:02 PM
Well, nobody shall miss that. There are tons of porn available online already. I don't even need to know if he was watching it alone or with one of his wives.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: jaysabi on May 25, 2015, 07:43:23 PM
Is this really unsurprising? Locked up in a house 24/7 I'd be surprised if he didn't have any. Would really love to know the titles though haha. They should just leak it. Can't see why they care about keeping it hidden as you think it'd be a great annoyance to jihadis.

He was just reading for the articles.  ;D


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Beefcake on May 26, 2015, 12:59:42 AM
Yeah, you would think they would release the details if not the actual porn just to make him look bad.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: aso118 on May 26, 2015, 01:08:48 AM
Yeah, you would think they would release the details if not the actual porn just to make him look bad.

By stating that he had a huge stash of porn, they already are making him look bad.  ;)


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Beefcake on May 27, 2015, 02:12:08 PM
Yeah, you would think they would release the details if not the actual porn just to make him look bad.

By stating that he had a huge stash of porn, they already are making him look bad.  ;)

Well yeah, but everyone is into some weird fetish or other.  Maybe he had a fetish that would really annoy people, like he was into white women (or men!).  I guess it doesn't matter as much as just releasing that he had a stash.  But there has to be something specific in that stash that would annoy his supporters.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Pentax on May 27, 2015, 04:04:24 PM
Some titles found in Bin Laden's dungeon of love:

Bangin' the Burka
Backdoor Jihadists
All In for Allah
Inside the Infidels
Pokin' on the Prayer Rug
Doin it for the Drones
70 Virgins (1, 2 and 3)








Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on May 28, 2015, 05:02:48 AM
http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/abc_gma_porn_110514_wg.jpg


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The stash of pornography reportedly found in the hideout of Osama Bin Laden by US commandos will not be declassified released "due to the nature of their contents", an official has said.

Among the thousands of documents was what Reuters described in 2011 as a "fairly extensive porn stash".

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Brian Hale, a spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), told The Telegraph that the pornography would remain classified even as details of Bin Laden’s other personal files were released.

Also:

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The digital volume are said to have included works by Noam Chomsky and conspiracy texts about 9/11.

Really hope he wasn't fapping over Chomsky :(

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bin-laden-documents-us-officials-will-not-release-alqaeda-leaders-pornography-stash-10266992.html



Seriously?   I hope he had western porn because every arab porn I have seen, you can barely see the va-jay-jay through all the hair.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 28, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
I wonder if ISIS has found out about this yet? Aren't these types supposed to look poorly on porn and all the related fetishes that lie beneath the surface? I can only imagine what kind of freaky shit he was into.

I actually had a debate on this with my friend, biologist heading local, national, anti-islamization campaign. He said Bin Ladin, also considering women he kept close, was rather surely "sub", looking for strong female characters, given his own status as Über-male and protector of the "pure" (his own men wouldnt respect him otherwise).

Also google "femdom", youll understand.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: HarryPotHead on May 28, 2015, 12:15:01 PM
http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/abc_gma_porn_110514_wg.jpg


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The stash of pornography reportedly found in the hideout of Osama Bin Laden by US commandos will not be declassified released "due to the nature of their contents", an official has said.

Among the thousands of documents was what Reuters described in 2011 as a "fairly extensive porn stash".

Quote
Brian Hale, a spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), told The Telegraph that the pornography would remain classified even as details of Bin Laden’s other personal files were released.

Also:

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The digital volume are said to have included works by Noam Chomsky and conspiracy texts about 9/11.

Really hope he wasn't fapping over Chomsky :(

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bin-laden-documents-us-officials-will-not-release-alqaeda-leaders-pornography-stash-10266992.html



Seriously?   I hope he had western porn because every arab porn I have seen, you can barely see the va-jay-jay through all the hair.

This is true I would be very scared to insert my dong in the razor wire ding. I don't think that is just arabs though pretty sure that is 75% of the world  :o


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Elwar on May 28, 2015, 01:17:01 PM
Some pictures were released:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa183/HJZTHFT/goats.jpg


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Pentax on May 28, 2015, 02:30:45 PM

Ooooh they had a hot tub at the compound.

The Emir was stylin'. 

And a very nice photo of his three wives.....


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: RodeoX on May 28, 2015, 03:25:50 PM
You guys are always keen to look out for propaganda and disinformation from spy agencies. Well I wonder about this. I have no information or evidence, but this is the kind of story the CIA likes to get into the media. I think it's quite possible some analyst thought this would hurt OBL's legacy. It certainly could also be true, but there is no one to ask except the people who claim it to be true.

 ???


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Pentax on May 28, 2015, 03:36:50 PM
You guys are always keen to look out for propaganda and disinformation from spy agencies. Well I wonder about this. I have no information or evidence, but this is the kind of story the CIA likes to get into the media. I think it's quite possible some analyst thought this would hurt OBL's legacy. It certainly could also be true, but there is no one to ask except the people who claim it to be true.

 ???


Could very well be.

Undermine him in terms of the religion he purported to be following and which the legions of cuckoo-birds claim to follow.

This would be a small lie for those people, that's for sure....


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Lorenzo on May 28, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
Quote from: Metro
He may have once been the world's most wanted man, but that didn't stop Osama bin Laden from enjoying a bit of porn...

Link: http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/21/osama-bin-laden-had-massive-porn-stash-in-pakistan-lair-5209160/

Isn't it possible that he kept a porn stash for reasons other than personal enjoyment though? Most sites that have covered this aspect of bin Laden's life don't go into any further detail about why someone like him would have a porn stash in the first place. He considered himself to be an enemy of the Western world, its policies, and its values. Pornography is both a product of Western culture (whether we like it or not) as well as an example of un-Islamic values. For someone like bin Laden who wanted to establish Sharia law across the entire Arab world (which prescribes female modesty, enforces separation of the sexes, and considers fornication and adultery as crimes against Allah), it would be really out of character.

For instance, it would be understandable for someone who despises Judaism and Jews to own copies of the Torah and Jewish scriptures in order to understand what exactly it is that they oppose. A Creationist might own a copy of The Origin of Species for the same reasons. From reading the article below, I'm fairly certain that Richard Dawkins has a few bibles and other religious books laying around his house as well:

Quote from: BBC
Prof Dawkins, writing in the Observer, said: "It is not a moral book and young people need to learn that important fact because they are very frequently told the opposite".

He said pupils should learn about its role in the nation's history, language, literacy and culture.

Prof Dawkins, an evolutionary biologist at Oxford, said: "A native speaker of English who has never read a word of the King James Bible is verging on the barbarian."

He added: "I have even heard the cynically misanthropic opinion that, without the Bible as a moral compass, people would have no restraint against murder, theft and mayhem.

"The surest way to disabuse yourself of this pernicious falsehood is to read the Bible itself."

Link: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-18224114


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 29, 2015, 10:12:14 AM
Isn't it possible that he kept a porn stash for reasons other than personal enjoyment though? Most sites that have covered this aspect of bin Laden's life don't go into any further detail about why someone like him would have a porn stash in the first place. He considered himself to be an enemy of the Western world, its policies, and its values. Pornography is both a product of Western culture (whether we like it or not) as well as an example of un-Islamic values. For someone like bin Laden who wanted to establish Sharia law across the entire Arab world (which prescribes female modesty, enforces separation of the sexes, and considers fornication and adultery as crimes against Allah), it would be really out of character.

WTF?

Do you really believe that he kept the huge porn stash to do academic research on pornography and its effect on human psychology? For most Muslims, Islamic laws regarding seggragation and non-revealing clothing is not applicable for non-Muslim women. So there is nothing wrong with OBL watching nude non-believer girls.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: ahmedjadoon on May 29, 2015, 01:30:06 PM
Isn't it possible that he kept a porn stash for reasons other than personal enjoyment though? Most sites that have covered this aspect of bin Laden's life don't go into any further detail about why someone like him would have a porn stash in the first place. He considered himself to be an enemy of the Western world, its policies, and its values. Pornography is both a product of Western culture (whether we like it or not) as well as an example of un-Islamic values. For someone like bin Laden who wanted to establish Sharia law across the entire Arab world (which prescribes female modesty, enforces separation of the sexes, and considers fornication and adultery as crimes against Allah), it would be really out of character.

WTF?

Do you really believe that he kept the huge porn stash to do academic research on pornography and its effect on human psychology? For most Muslims, Islamic laws regarding seggragation and non-revealing clothing is not applicable for non-Muslim women. So there is nothing wrong with OBL watching nude non-believer girls.
Please don't misinterpret Islamic view. It is not permissible for Muslims to watch others nude whether "Muslim" or "Non-muslim".
But it's no secret most of Muslims like other human beings do watch which adds to their sins.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: ahmedjadoon on May 29, 2015, 01:39:42 PM
I pity you all kids believing what western media tells you and whatever "Obama" says. It's not too hard to understand it was a drama staged to relieve y'all of psychotic fear.  I live a few kilometres from that "Osama's house" in Abbottabad. I truly believe that there was no Osama there. I bunch of soldiers came for the show.Raided an empty building. (I think they might have watched some porn there for some time as there was nothing else to kill time) and came back. Then surprisingly different soldiers had different versions of story to tell media.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: countryfree on May 29, 2015, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: Metro
He may have once been the world's most wanted man, but that didn't stop Osama bin Laden from enjoying a bit of porn...

Link: http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/21/osama-bin-laden-had-massive-porn-stash-in-pakistan-lair-5209160/

Isn't it possible that he kept a porn stash for reasons other than personal enjoyment though? Most sites that have covered this aspect of bin Laden's life don't go into any further detail about why someone like him would have a porn stash in the first place. He considered himself to be an enemy of the Western world, its policies, and its values. Pornography is both a product of Western culture (whether we like it or not) as well as an example of un-Islamic values. For someone like bin Laden who wanted to establish Sharia law across the entire Arab world (which prescribes female modesty, enforces separation of the sexes, and considers fornication and adultery as crimes against Allah), it would be really out of character.

For instance, it would be understandable for someone who despises Judaism and Jews to own copies of the Torah and Jewish scriptures in order to understand what exactly it is that they oppose. A Creationist might own a copy of The Origin of Species for the same reasons. From reading the article below, I'm fairly certain that Richard Dawkins has a few bibles and other religious books laying around his house as well:

Quote from: BBC
Prof Dawkins, writing in the Observer, said: "It is not a moral book and young people need to learn that important fact because they are very frequently told the opposite".

He said pupils should learn about its role in the nation's history, language, literacy and culture.

Prof Dawkins, an evolutionary biologist at Oxford, said: "A native speaker of English who has never read a word of the King James Bible is verging on the barbarian."

He added: "I have even heard the cynically misanthropic opinion that, without the Bible as a moral compass, people would have no restraint against murder, theft and mayhem.

"The surest way to disabuse yourself of this pernicious falsehood is to read the Bible itself."

Link: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-18224114


Hmmm... I don't think you need to have a lot of videos to understand what pornography is all about. May be some people understand more slowly than others...


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Pentax on May 29, 2015, 05:46:42 PM
I pity you all kids believing what western media tells you and whatever "Obama" says. It's not too hard to understand it was a drama staged to relieve y'all of psychotic fear.  I live a few kilometres from that "Osama's house" in Abbottabad. I truly believe that there was no Osama there. I bunch of soldiers came for the show.Raided an empty building. (I think they might have watched some porn there for some time as there was nothing else to kill time) and came back. Then surprisingly different soldiers had different versions of story to tell media.



when was the last time we've seen that piece of shit?

Oddly enough, not since the Seals but a bullet in his head.  Even al qaeda acknowledged that he was killed.

was he there?  well, I guess unless you stuck that round in his head yourself there's no way to be 100% sure, but they killed his ass, that much is clear, so I don't care how.



Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: ahmedjadoon on May 29, 2015, 07:50:22 PM
I pity you all kids believing what western media tells you and whatever "Obama" says. It's not too hard to understand it was a drama staged to relieve y'all of psychotic fear.  I live a few kilometres from that "Osama's house" in Abbottabad. I truly believe that there was no Osama there. I bunch of soldiers came for the show.Raided an empty building. (I think they might have watched some porn there for some time as there was nothing else to kill time) and came back. Then surprisingly different soldiers had different versions of story to tell media.



when was the last time we've seen that piece of shit?

Oddly enough, not since the Seals but a bullet in his head.  Even al qaeda acknowledged that he was killed.

was he there?  well, I guess unless you stuck that round in his head yourself there's no way to be 100% sure, but they killed his ass, that much is clear, so I don't care how.


I think he had already died somewhere in mountains of Afghanistan. But US had to be that "Superhero" that rid the world of this menance, so that drama was staged.
Alqaeeda had been accepting a lot of other things as well that didn't make any sense. You don't know how much they are paid for it. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Pentax on May 29, 2015, 08:04:25 PM
I pity you all kids believing what western media tells you and whatever "Obama" says. It's not too hard to understand it was a drama staged to relieve y'all of psychotic fear.  I live a few kilometres from that "Osama's house" in Abbottabad. I truly believe that there was no Osama there. I bunch of soldiers came for the show.Raided an empty building. (I think they might have watched some porn there for some time as there was nothing else to kill time) and came back. Then surprisingly different soldiers had different versions of story to tell media.



when was the last time we've seen that piece of shit?

Oddly enough, not since the Seals but a bullet in his head.  Even al qaeda acknowledged that he was killed.

was he there?  well, I guess unless you stuck that round in his head yourself there's no way to be 100% sure, but they killed his ass, that much is clear, so I don't care how.


I think he had already died somewhere in mountains of Afghanistan. But US had to be that "Superhero" that rid the world of this menance, so that drama was staged.
Alqaeeda had been accepting a lot of other things as well that didn't make any sense. You don't know how much they are paid for it. Just a thought.


I'd never say the CIA and other intelligence agencies and politicians here in the US, and all over the world for that matter, are not lying sacks of shit, as they absolutely are, but I'm wondering what your basis is for these statements.



Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Aggressor66 on May 29, 2015, 08:12:28 PM
“We are not going to release these materials due to the nature of their contents"

The real reason why they can't be released is the pages are stuck together  ;)


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: BitcoinBuff on May 29, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
“We are not going to release these materials due to the nature of their contents"

The real reason why they can't be released is the pages are stuck together  ;)

I lol'ed. I think I read that he liked Brazzers (http://theporndude.com/595/Brazzers) some time ago :D


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: fancy_pants on May 30, 2015, 02:09:29 AM
I wonder if ISIS has found out about this yet? Aren't these types supposed to look poorly on porn and all the related fetishes that lie beneath the surface? I can only imagine what kind of freaky shit he was into.

Given that "ISIS" is a fabrication put forth by the CIA and main stream media to facilitate war mongering,  I think they probably know.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: stevegreer on May 30, 2015, 09:08:45 PM
Nobody wants to watch donkey porn anyway.  Keep it.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Beefcake on May 31, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
I pity you all kids believing what western media tells you and whatever "Obama" says. It's not too hard to understand it was a drama staged to relieve y'all of psychotic fear.  I live a few kilometres from that "Osama's house" in Abbottabad. I truly believe that there was no Osama there. I bunch of soldiers came for the show.Raided an empty building. (I think they might have watched some porn there for some time as there was nothing else to kill time) and came back. Then surprisingly different soldiers had different versions of story to tell media.

You know I actually read this before and there seems to be evidence that you are correct.  Things like inconsistent accounts of the raid that kept changing, shenanigans involving the body, lying about specifics like Obama and crew watching the raid live, and stuff like this that backs up your post:

"Almost every single neighbor that lived near the alleged Bin Laden compound in Abbottabad that was interviewed by news reporters said with absolute certainty that they had never seen Bin Laden and that they knew of no evidence whatsoever to suggest he lived there."

It is a real trip, I urge anyone who is not trapped in a suburban bliss to do some googling.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: newflesh on June 12, 2015, 04:26:17 PM
Blogger sends FOI request to CIA for details on Bin Laden's porn stash :)

http://gawker.com/cia-rejects-internet-bros-foia-request-for-osama-bin-la-1710452244

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--3Nj_RtMP--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1291445065531414053.jpg

The CIA rejected it :(

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With regard to the pornographic material Osama Bin Laden had in his possession at the time of his death, responsive records, should they exist, would be contained in the operational files. The CIA Information Act, 50 U.S.C 431, as amended, exempts CIA operational files from search, review, publication, and disclosure requirements of the FOIA. To the extent that this material exists, the CIA would be prohibited by 18 USC Section 1461 from mailing obscene matter.

So much for transparency.



Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: UliJonHoth on June 12, 2015, 06:12:10 PM
I pity you all kids believing what western media tells you and whatever "Obama" says. It's not too hard to understand it was a drama staged to relieve y'all of psychotic fear.  I live a few kilometres from that "Osama's house" in Abbottabad. I truly believe that there was no Osama there. I bunch of soldiers came for the show.Raided an empty building. (I think they might have watched some porn there for some time as there was nothing else to kill time) and came back. Then surprisingly different soldiers had different versions of story to tell media.

You know I actually read this before and there seems to be evidence that you are correct.  Things like inconsistent accounts of the raid that kept changing, shenanigans involving the body, lying about specifics like Obama and crew watching the raid live, and stuff like this that backs up your post:

"Almost every single neighbor that lived near the alleged Bin Laden compound in Abbottabad that was interviewed by news reporters said with absolute certainty that they had never seen Bin Laden and that they knew of no evidence whatsoever to suggest he lived there."

It is a real trip, I urge anyone who is not trapped in a suburban bliss to do some googling.

You are correct, the whole thing was just more b.s. put out there to further their lies - Osama had been dead for who knows how long, check the supposed videos of him over the years they fed to us and you'll notice variances in facial structure, noses, etc. When they released Obama's birth certificate and then announced the "assassination" of Bin Laden and how they didn't have a body because it was dumped overboard and the majority of Americans bought it, I knew then and there they'd be able to sell anything to the public.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: TECSHARE on June 12, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
what about Osama's porn STACHE...  surely they can't detain that indefinitely.



Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Possum577 on June 13, 2015, 06:31:49 AM
Is this really unsurprising? Locked up in a house 24/7 I'd be surprised if he didn't have any. Would really love to know the titles though haha. They should just leak it. Can't see why they care about keeping it hidden as you think it'd be a great annoyance to jihadis.

Yes, it's "unsurprising", which is why it's worthy of being posted here because it likely would surprise people a bit.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Okurkabinladin on June 13, 2015, 02:00:52 PM
“We are not going to release these materials due to the nature of their contents"

The real reason why they can't be released is the pages are stuck together  ;)

I lol'ed. I think I read that he liked Brazzers (http://theporndude.com/595/Brazzers) some time ago :D

Lets take a bet. 10 bitcoins, that he was into "femdom" porn  ;) and no, I am not just pulling that off out of my a** it would fit his psychological profile.


Title: Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released
Post by: Spendulus on July 08, 2018, 09:46:42 PM
Quote from: Metro
He may have once been the world's most wanted man, but that didn't stop Osama bin Laden from enjoying a bit of porn...

Link: http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/21/osama-bin-laden-had-massive-porn-stash-in-pakistan-lair-5209160/

Isn't it possible that he kept a porn stash for reasons other than personal enjoyment though? .....

.... Nope ....

“We are not going to release these materials due to the nature of their contents"

.....

Probably the nature of the contents is such that they wouldn't release it.

Which is exactly what they said.

Think in terms of, little boys....